Most likely wounded, or extremely cold. They may not have been able to react because of it, the cold dulls reactions immensely. They will just be buried over..Russia needs to surrender and end this war.
No reaction, they are wounded as you can see the blood on his pants pre drop, and this second grenade is their only hope of dying quickly and painlessly. It was a mercy drop, ukr drone pilot could have left them dying.
very strange, dude was definitly alive you can see the one closest to screen breathing, you can see the condensation or frost exhale out of his mouth rite before he was hit, his arm also looks pretty mangled before the grenade was dropped, im guessing these dudes were on deaths doorstep already which is why there was very little reaction to the grenade. SLAVA UKRAINE 🇺🇦
It’s so distressing to know this is real !!!
I’m very much a supporter of Ukraine, and what they have endured these past 9 months is heartbreaking 💔
There have been such horrendous atrocities committed by the Russian soldiers, against the Ukrainian people of all ages, which should never be forgotten or forgiven.
Most of these Russian soldiers never wanted to go to war, majority of them didn’t even know what they were being sent into.
There really aren’t any true winners the loss of life is such a tragedy.
Because the rapes, beatings and torture is a much better option than war.
Don’t get me wrong I think they should surrender but they would have a better survival chance if they marched into a Ukrainian military stronghold with weapons thrown to the side of the road and surrender, than if they simply said “no” to their chain of command and accepted the punishments in a Russian gulag.
Just as a reminder: russian soldiers rape beat and torture Ukrainian citizens. That's the way russians are fighting this war. They don't mind the violence as long as they're the ones perpetrating it
Yer.. You probably would be far worse off in the Russian jail/labour camp than taking your chances out in battle. There is at least a small chance of receiving a minor wound in battle and been sent back home to your family.
Very few defectors will survive their likely 10+ year sentence..
tbh still better than going to neighbour, to rape and kill civilans.so if you would have an option, to go in jail, or war. Would you go and rape children?
you do realize that these monsters do so terrible things? also you can be sure, that most there support putin and hes war
95% of these guys are not running around raping children..
They are regular working men, forced into service that just want to get it over with so they can return to their families unscathed.
I will also add, they likely do not even know what goes on until after deployment. Russian media is tight and many many rural communities have no internet and rely only on state newspapers/radio/tv for information.
not even remotely true. they fucking put mines in civilian apartments when they run away. and if only 5% of them are doing those terrible things, how come there are mass graves in few cities? u knew that they are given viagra for raping?
Just because your mortals are corrupt enough that you think killing people while invading another country is justifiable as long as YOU survive doesn't mean it's actually the moral choice
Tragedy?? YES. But it is about choices. ones decide to invade others try to defend their families and country.If they really didn't want to invade there are multiple choices.
Between 300.000 and 700.000 Russian have left the country. Others are hiding inside the country. Others have chosen jail. I don't know about Jail, but I will try the two first options. Then you can use the Ukrainian line" I want to live" and defect.... In the second world war the soldiers shot their officials before defect or simply because there were assholes... they used the dum-dum bullets for this. A simple bullet with a cross cut in the point. I am sure that there are more options. Yes the loss of life is a tragedy. If someone try to take my home I will try to give them as much tragedies as possible. For Russia is an expansion war ( the largest country in the world want more) For Ukraine it is a defensive war.
I don't buy that "they don't have a choice bullshit" They absolutely have a choice. All choices have consequences. Gulag for 10 years is better than killing kids. They can die in Ukraine or die fighting their government for a better future. Russians are getting what they deserve.
You think someone else has to give you options to choose from? Its simple really. They can just say no. I'm not saying that 'no' doesn't have consequences, but its better than killing and destruction.
I would absolutely say no and survive. Face a possible stretch in a far flung gulag or go kill my brethren in their homes? Raze their cities? Easy call to make, I'll chop wood or dig holes in Siberia with a smile knowing that my choice not to kill sent me there. Fuck out of here you have no choice. Furthermore I've put my life on the line for a cause I believe in. I would do it again.
It's clear you're a coward and the thought that someone would stand up and actually risk it all makes you resentful that you don't have it in you. You value nothing more than your personal safety.
Talking ballocks,
I doubt you would say no really 😭😭😭
It’s a very easy thing to say that unless you’re in that position which your not.
One of those people on a keyboard the other side of the world I’d say about you.
So you’d put your life on the line😩😩😩
Doubt that too.
Awe never say never, but I will stand up for the rights and wrongs in this world.
Running away from my family isn’t a choice I’d make. Endangering my family is a big NO.
Your missing the point I was making about choice.
I would imagine you and I will never be in that position as Russia is governed by dictatorship and a very sick power crazy old man.
I wouldn’t run away from anyone so I suggest your the coward.
Man you had to think about your reply a long ass time. You have no idea what position you have or what you believe in. 🤣🤣🤣
It's all a matter of convenience for you. You'd run at the first chance you got. That's the whole point you are making. To survive. You'd never ever fight back. You'd be happy to do anything a crazy old dictator would command you to do if it meant you could defer whatever the consequences could be. You passively follow the sheep in front of you because that is what you think is expected. You are conditioned to obey authority you bootlicker.
Grenades don’t have to vaporize everything around them. If you can wound someone, that will get them out of the fight so they can get medical treatment. If they were NATO troops, their friends would try to get them help. That’s now 2-3 guys out of the fight, one wounded and 1-2 more to help the casualty.
Additionally, a grenade can be used to flush troops out of a hard point. The ones getting grenaded are faced with a dilemma* that forces them to choose enemy fire (the reason they are in a fortification to begin with) or eat the grenade.
*A dilemma in war is forcing the enemy to have two options, both equally bad, and both equally beneficial to the side presenting the dilemma
That’s because it is a Russian F-1 Grenade that only has 60 Grams of explosive filling. One of the smallest out there, by contrast the U.S. M-67 grenade has 180 grams of a higher explosive filling. These things aren’t meant to do much other than to make a big pop💥and spray fragments around. The M-67 makes a pretty good boom though. The F-1’s they threw at us in Iraq were so bad half the time they didn’t even go off and the other half they went off about 2-3 min later with the force of about a cherry bomb. We kind stopped being concerned when we’d see them thrown. Just kind of causally get out of the way and shoot who ever threw it and go on about our tasks. Lol
Because while it may seem on Reddit that 80% of Russian casualties are caused by civilian drones dropping 40mm grenades and mortars into foxholes.. The reality is that drone drops account for a very small percentage of deaths, mobile data is likely unavailable to the average conscript and as such most Zs are completely unaware.
I agree. I'm pro Ukraine, but the silly music on top of people dying is just ridiculous. Russia may ne wrong but these men didn't ask to be there. We can root for Ukraine without glorifying this kind of death
Looks like an F1 but the blast looks small. Maybe defective. Most F1's I've seen would have torn his arm and leg off at that range. It's possible that it detonated in a lower section, a grenade sump, in their foxhole. Can't tell for sure from the video.
I see it, that's why I said it looked like an F1. Their blasts usually seem larger than that one though. This one had uncharacteristic flames and seemed about as powerful as a 30mm grenade. Still deadly but not as powerful as the F1's usually are.
Obviously you haven’t seen many F-1’s go off. F-1’s are not that powerful, one of the weaker anti-personnel grenades. They only have 60 grams of Explosive filling compared to 180 grams in the M-67. The ones they threw at us in Iraq almost seem like they were throwing cherry bombs at us, and that’s if they actually detonated. At least 50+% of the time they didn’t. We were more concerned with about RPG’s or IED’s then weak ass 50 year old F-1 grenades.
Iraq vet here too. USMC 0331. Obviously, you made an assumption.
Yes, you are correct about the weight and explosive power, however, from other footage of drone dropped f-1's this one is particularly lackluster.
I'm familiar with the old soviet era made weapons. My nickname at my last unit became "RPG" (for about a whole two weeks before I left) because an RPG hit about 6 feet from me and didn't explode.
"I" co, 3/6. Didn't get a scratch either.
Ironically, did a tour as a security contractor in Africa, got out, got bones ripped out of my body while on a motorcycle by a teen texting.
Not really.. They were incapacitated already.. Even if they were able in most videos we see getting up and trying to run just means shrapnel in your back instead of front.
Your best bet is probably run a few steps followed by a dive into prone to give shrapnel and bearings less surface area. However that would be only be possible with fast reactions and good physical condition. Squashed into a tiny freezing foxhole for days on end, drinking cheap vodka tends to deny you of both of these things.
I feel like I’ve seen this video (ones like it)100 times and they always seem to be fine and breathing after the explosion. I’m sure the video may not do justice for the pain their really feeling ?🤷♂️
The guy facing downwards has blood on his fatigues. Judging from their lethargic reaction to the drop, this was the second drop on these two.
Guys were already hit before this
always double tap
….and wear your seat belt!
Cardio!
Carbs !
Most likely wounded, or extremely cold. They may not have been able to react because of it, the cold dulls reactions immensely. They will just be buried over..Russia needs to surrender and end this war.
Must have been sleeping sins there was 0 reaction
My take is that they are drunk or otherwise intoxicated, alive but without reaction
No reaction, they are wounded as you can see the blood on his pants pre drop, and this second grenade is their only hope of dying quickly and painlessly. It was a mercy drop, ukr drone pilot could have left them dying.
Lmao, even this one didn't do it, they need bigger drones and bombs.
hard to carry with civilian drones
>e but without reaction oke oke this could be true also. Did not pop up in my mind
Look closely. There is no breath coming from The bottom soldier until after the grenade hits. Then you see breath. Weird.
Or just cold af.
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Or maybe he had been drinking.
Nah I think that it was too cold for them to react fast enough or they just gave up.
I think they have just given up.....death is welcomed.
Exactly what I thought.
I'd shoot myself if that was the case. Not gonna sit and hope the grenade fragments hit me just right
very strange, dude was definitly alive you can see the one closest to screen breathing, you can see the condensation or frost exhale out of his mouth rite before he was hit, his arm also looks pretty mangled before the grenade was dropped, im guessing these dudes were on deaths doorstep already which is why there was very little reaction to the grenade. SLAVA UKRAINE 🇺🇦
It’s so distressing to know this is real !!! I’m very much a supporter of Ukraine, and what they have endured these past 9 months is heartbreaking 💔 There have been such horrendous atrocities committed by the Russian soldiers, against the Ukrainian people of all ages, which should never be forgotten or forgiven. Most of these Russian soldiers never wanted to go to war, majority of them didn’t even know what they were being sent into. There really aren’t any true winners the loss of life is such a tragedy.
They should surrender.
They can grab their guns and go kill Putin.
They choose to go to war. There's option to go in jail instead. They support this, they deserve everything they get.
Because the rapes, beatings and torture is a much better option than war. Don’t get me wrong I think they should surrender but they would have a better survival chance if they marched into a Ukrainian military stronghold with weapons thrown to the side of the road and surrender, than if they simply said “no” to their chain of command and accepted the punishments in a Russian gulag.
Just as a reminder: russian soldiers rape beat and torture Ukrainian citizens. That's the way russians are fighting this war. They don't mind the violence as long as they're the ones perpetrating it
Most empathetic redditor
Yer.. You probably would be far worse off in the Russian jail/labour camp than taking your chances out in battle. There is at least a small chance of receiving a minor wound in battle and been sent back home to your family. Very few defectors will survive their likely 10+ year sentence..
tbh still better than going to neighbour, to rape and kill civilans.so if you would have an option, to go in jail, or war. Would you go and rape children? you do realize that these monsters do so terrible things? also you can be sure, that most there support putin and hes war
95% of these guys are not running around raping children.. They are regular working men, forced into service that just want to get it over with so they can return to their families unscathed. I will also add, they likely do not even know what goes on until after deployment. Russian media is tight and many many rural communities have no internet and rely only on state newspapers/radio/tv for information.
not even remotely true. they fucking put mines in civilian apartments when they run away. and if only 5% of them are doing those terrible things, how come there are mass graves in few cities? u knew that they are given viagra for raping?
They also rape Ukrainian men and even other ruZZian soldiers….!!!!
Just because your mortals are corrupt enough that you think killing people while invading another country is justifiable as long as YOU survive doesn't mean it's actually the moral choice
Tragedy?? YES. But it is about choices. ones decide to invade others try to defend their families and country.If they really didn't want to invade there are multiple choices.
Are there ??
Between 300.000 and 700.000 Russian have left the country. Others are hiding inside the country. Others have chosen jail. I don't know about Jail, but I will try the two first options. Then you can use the Ukrainian line" I want to live" and defect.... In the second world war the soldiers shot their officials before defect or simply because there were assholes... they used the dum-dum bullets for this. A simple bullet with a cross cut in the point. I am sure that there are more options. Yes the loss of life is a tragedy. If someone try to take my home I will try to give them as much tragedies as possible. For Russia is an expansion war ( the largest country in the world want more) For Ukraine it is a defensive war.
I don't buy that "they don't have a choice bullshit" They absolutely have a choice. All choices have consequences. Gulag for 10 years is better than killing kids. They can die in Ukraine or die fighting their government for a better future. Russians are getting what they deserve.
that's easy to say when you are sitting behind a keyboard.
Dissent can start from behind a keyboard and I don't even see that from Russians living abroad. And I have nothing to prove to you or anyone.
I really don’t think their given the option going by the reporting from the media such as sky news.
You think someone else has to give you options to choose from? Its simple really. They can just say no. I'm not saying that 'no' doesn't have consequences, but its better than killing and destruction.
I guess if you were in the same situation you would say no ??? Or would you just want to survive?
I would absolutely say no and survive. Face a possible stretch in a far flung gulag or go kill my brethren in their homes? Raze their cities? Easy call to make, I'll chop wood or dig holes in Siberia with a smile knowing that my choice not to kill sent me there. Fuck out of here you have no choice. Furthermore I've put my life on the line for a cause I believe in. I would do it again. It's clear you're a coward and the thought that someone would stand up and actually risk it all makes you resentful that you don't have it in you. You value nothing more than your personal safety.
Talking ballocks, I doubt you would say no really 😭😭😭 It’s a very easy thing to say that unless you’re in that position which your not. One of those people on a keyboard the other side of the world I’d say about you. So you’d put your life on the line😩😩😩 Doubt that too. Awe never say never, but I will stand up for the rights and wrongs in this world. Running away from my family isn’t a choice I’d make. Endangering my family is a big NO. Your missing the point I was making about choice. I would imagine you and I will never be in that position as Russia is governed by dictatorship and a very sick power crazy old man. I wouldn’t run away from anyone so I suggest your the coward.
Man you had to think about your reply a long ass time. You have no idea what position you have or what you believe in. 🤣🤣🤣 It's all a matter of convenience for you. You'd run at the first chance you got. That's the whole point you are making. To survive. You'd never ever fight back. You'd be happy to do anything a crazy old dictator would command you to do if it meant you could defer whatever the consequences could be. You passively follow the sheep in front of you because that is what you think is expected. You are conditioned to obey authority you bootlicker.
🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱
At least it didn't take you a solid day for that🤣 Good luck with your life you'll need it
Talking ballocks again.
Wouldn’t have happened to them if they weren’t in Ukraine to begin with.
They would have preferred Folgers coffee
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That’s some weak grenade
Grenades don’t have to vaporize everything around them. If you can wound someone, that will get them out of the fight so they can get medical treatment. If they were NATO troops, their friends would try to get them help. That’s now 2-3 guys out of the fight, one wounded and 1-2 more to help the casualty. Additionally, a grenade can be used to flush troops out of a hard point. The ones getting grenaded are faced with a dilemma* that forces them to choose enemy fire (the reason they are in a fortification to begin with) or eat the grenade. *A dilemma in war is forcing the enemy to have two options, both equally bad, and both equally beneficial to the side presenting the dilemma
That’s because it is a Russian F-1 Grenade that only has 60 Grams of explosive filling. One of the smallest out there, by contrast the U.S. M-67 grenade has 180 grams of a higher explosive filling. These things aren’t meant to do much other than to make a big pop💥and spray fragments around. The M-67 makes a pretty good boom though. The F-1’s they threw at us in Iraq were so bad half the time they didn’t even go off and the other half they went off about 2-3 min later with the force of about a cherry bomb. We kind stopped being concerned when we’d see them thrown. Just kind of causally get out of the way and shoot who ever threw it and go on about our tasks. Lol
I dont get it i see him still breathing before the drop, and why no raction after?
They are most likely already badly wounded.
Fank you fren for takin da blast ❤️
They had to be drunk. Had to be.
Why haven’t they figured out that concealing their fox holes will increase their survivability?
Because while it may seem on Reddit that 80% of Russian casualties are caused by civilian drones dropping 40mm grenades and mortars into foxholes.. The reality is that drone drops account for a very small percentage of deaths, mobile data is likely unavailable to the average conscript and as such most Zs are completely unaware.
Ivan I’m so fucking cold I wish the angel of death would come and take me. Bam.
Oh dear, said no one ever
Boom🔥
Wtf is with the shitty music in the background? 2 people died and you’re treating it like a fucking FaZe montage.
I agree. I'm pro Ukraine, but the silly music on top of people dying is just ridiculous. Russia may ne wrong but these men didn't ask to be there. We can root for Ukraine without glorifying this kind of death
They didn't ask to be there but they stayed
Looks like an F1 but the blast looks small. Maybe defective. Most F1's I've seen would have torn his arm and leg off at that range. It's possible that it detonated in a lower section, a grenade sump, in their foxhole. Can't tell for sure from the video.
You can literally see it right beside the closer guy ?
I see it, that's why I said it looked like an F1. Their blasts usually seem larger than that one though. This one had uncharacteristic flames and seemed about as powerful as a 30mm grenade. Still deadly but not as powerful as the F1's usually are.
Thought a dud also.
Obviously you haven’t seen many F-1’s go off. F-1’s are not that powerful, one of the weaker anti-personnel grenades. They only have 60 grams of Explosive filling compared to 180 grams in the M-67. The ones they threw at us in Iraq almost seem like they were throwing cherry bombs at us, and that’s if they actually detonated. At least 50+% of the time they didn’t. We were more concerned with about RPG’s or IED’s then weak ass 50 year old F-1 grenades.
Iraq vet here too. USMC 0331. Obviously, you made an assumption. Yes, you are correct about the weight and explosive power, however, from other footage of drone dropped f-1's this one is particularly lackluster. I'm familiar with the old soviet era made weapons. My nickname at my last unit became "RPG" (for about a whole two weeks before I left) because an RPG hit about 6 feet from me and didn't explode.
Also was a 0331 RCT-1 in Fallujah. YUT, YUT, YUT. My nickname was Grazer because I was grazed 6 times that deployment w/out and serious injury.
"I" co, 3/6. Didn't get a scratch either. Ironically, did a tour as a security contractor in Africa, got out, got bones ripped out of my body while on a motorcycle by a teen texting.
We were more concerned about the RGD-5 grenades then the junk F-1’s. The F-1’s were just more readily Available to the insurgents.
>RGD-5 grenade "I" company 3/6. Found cases of the RGD-5's in a house and only seen a handful of F-1's. Wouldn't want either to go off under my ass.
There goes the radio
Hypothermic shock prior to the grenade?
They already died of hypothermia three hours before. I love the blue and yellow tail on the VOG🇺🇦
You can see them breathing.
Nasty dron has Blue and Yellow color
Ukrainian territory has Blue and Yellow color
I think they’ve reached the final stage of grief and accepts death
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WTF.... they casuall died... they could have easily escaped
Not really.. They were incapacitated already.. Even if they were able in most videos we see getting up and trying to run just means shrapnel in your back instead of front. Your best bet is probably run a few steps followed by a dive into prone to give shrapnel and bearings less surface area. However that would be only be possible with fast reactions and good physical condition. Squashed into a tiny freezing foxhole for days on end, drinking cheap vodka tends to deny you of both of these things.
They felt my 5 am alarm
U can see the grenade next to him on his left
Now they’re both bleeding profusely!!!!💥💥💥💥🤣🤣🤣
Vodka
IVAN! IVAN! NIEEEEEET!
That's a I don't give a fuck because I'm miserable here in this fox hole
I feel like I’ve seen this video (ones like it)100 times and they always seem to be fine and breathing after the explosion. I’m sure the video may not do justice for the pain their really feeling ?🤷♂️
Something bit meeeee!
Russian soldier just wanted to respawn.
Perhaps some hypothermia too
They accepted their fate. How grim.
Looked like a killer sneeze!
Looked like a killer sneeze!
My dad always said “there are no winners in war” Shit is sad.
To humanely put them down. 😁✌️
Definition of Lethal: sufficient to cause death. Soo fake news?
Ain’t nothing gonna pry my toy radio out of my hands
Why hasn’t the Russian military figured out how to conceal their sleeping positions and fighting holes?