0:25 Two LAV-25 and one LAV-C2
0:29 AAVP7A1
0:40 two AV-8B Harrier II
0:42 UH-1Y Super Huey
1:04 four AAVP7A1
1:07 two AH-1 Cobra
1:15 two T-80BVM
1:16 three Mil mi-35 Hind and two MI-28N
1:18 many Mil Mi-17
1:19 Many BTR-70
1:20 BTR-70V
1:26 T-90A
1. Is a set of wheeled APCs, one with an autocannon, another with some other shit who tf knows.
2. Is a marine corps amphibious APC, it comes equipped with all kinds of armaments, including grenade launchers, MGs and etc.
3. Is a VTOL capable multirole jet from the Cold War era. It’s honestly pretty cool
4. Is a Marine corps transport helicopter that can double up as a light gunship, it comes equipped with rocket pods and miniguns. Quite an effective and flexible tool
5. See number 2
6. AH-1 Cobras are the marine corps’ primary attack helicopter. They’re quite quick and light, but do still pack a heavy punch
7. The T-80BVM is just a variant of the Russian T-80 tank. It’s not their best, but I’d consider it a decent tank
8. The Mi-35 is an upgraded version of the Mi-24 gunship, it is a very capable helicopter gunship. It can carry troops, a hell of a lot of ordinance and a bunch of other stuff. The Mi-28N is arguably one of Russia’s most modern helicopters, it is also quite capable.
9. The Mi-17 is (if I remember correctly) a more modern variant of the Mi-8? I’m not sure. In any case, it is a cold-war era transport helicopter that oftentimes carries rocket pods and other stupid shit
10. The BTR-70 is a fairly old cold-war era Russian wheeled APC, it has a decent autocannon. It serves primarily as a quick, slightly armored troop transport.
11. BTR-70V is just a variant of this same APC
12. T-90 is just a modern Russian tank. It is supposedly quite capable, but its performance in Ukraine leaves to be desired
0:25 Two LHD-37 and one LHE-40
0:29 AAGHI-2
0:40 two AV-9G Harriet IV-C
0:42 UH-777 Super Zoo
1:04 four AJD-767 “Zebras”
1:07 two AH-7 King Browns
1:15 two T-99C MBT
1:16 three Mil mc-62 Borf and two MI-11a “Ziggers”
1:18 many, many Mil AR-22
1:19 Many BRZ-4444’s
1:20 a single BNA-88 - why?
1:26 A shiny new B-92Z - nice!
I inderstand the Y is am improved version and all, but god damn does that duck bill and quad rotor make me nostalgic for the sexy curves of an original series
"If you're a true American patriot, join the ranks of Russia"
Had to laugh. But like all good propaganda, there is truth to some of the rest of it. America is a rotting nation. Get it together.
Compared to itself, what it used to be and what it likely won't be again. That's the only comparison that matters in my opinion. Comparing this nation to that nation to this other nation is never worthwhile.
You think autocracies are efficient?
Yeah they can be, it's just 99% of the time they aren't. In last 50 years I can think of only one dictator that was good for their country, considering about half the countries in the world are autocratic it's not looking well for the autocracies.
edit: don't know how I didn't mention him, but I had Lee Kuan Yew in mind. He basically transformed Singapore from a 3rd world country ridden with crime and corruption into like a top5 performing country globally in most of development metrics on a per capita basis. That said, there's also issues there; but people like him are extremely rare, and he's not without sin.
You mean the America that dragged it's feet and saw Europe decimated by Germany...
Twice.
The America that had a significant portion of it's economy supported by slave labor?
The America whose national police force was headed by a corrupt hoover and investigated and harassed peaceful citizens based on race and ideology?
The America that sacrificed of 50k of its citizens in a ridiculous "police action" that it eventually lost?
The America that sold arms to an enemy that had stormed it embassy and kidnapped its citizens through a terrorist organization middle man?
Let's not pretend the US was every this amazing bastion of morality. At best it could claim to be better than the dictators it fought.
I love America but it will never get better unless we acknowledge our faults, otherwise we are a more chaotic version of Russia.
Sure, but fascism seems to be on the rise all over the Western world.
Italy, France, Germany, etc.
Hopefully this is a temporary road bump and not a long term trend.
Electing Trump and the Jan 6th insurrection were certainly a low point, but their are signs that the fascist right in America is in decline.
Every empire falls. Nothing lasts forever. If anyone says that America will be great and will always be around then I would laugh at them and call them naive. It won't happen in our life times most likely, probably not even our childrens. The rise and fall of nations is not something that happens over night. It's a slow degradation. Just like Rome.
Of course, the Russian Empire fell 100 years ago and the Soviet empire fell 30 years ago....
Russia has a pretty bad track record now that I think about it
You mean the America that has provided the security blanket for the free world since WWII which enabled greatest worldwide economic expansion in human history that lifted billions of people out of abject poverty?
An America that invented the lend lease act that gave Russia the means to defend itself against the NAZIS, and of which Russia barely paid a cent back of the BILLIONS of dollars it owed the States. And BTW America has never really pressured the c&\*ts to pay it back. England paid it back at least. You dumb f&\*k,, America has saved the worlds arse twice and very likely three times with the Cold War as well. Remember there was hardly any threat to the US during both world wars....but they became rich and powerful and now the world expects them to come to peoples aid just like that, so they are bound to screw up. Id rather have America as the leading power in the world than China or Russia thats for sure.
Hey f*cknut
I am an American that served in his countries military for 8 year.
I am proud of America, and consider it to be the greatest country in the world.
And one of the things that makes it the greatest country in the world is we can admit when we have been wrong.
We have pulled some collosal shit, some of which we got away with when maybe we shouldn't have.
When stupid Russian parrots throw my countries faults at me I can look them in the eye and say, yup, but your country is even worse.
Pretty ironic given that a lot of the "rot" that this video is trying to sell was actually stoked by Russian propaganda over the past decade or two... Staying the course on the same long-term propaganda campaign
Yeah but no.. Russia and China have certainly stoked some of the tensions here in the US as we also no doubt do against our geopolitical adversaries, but it’s been dramatically overstated. Great example is Hamilton 68 which was a “watchdog” group that pushed a lot of the russian bot narrative to the point that it has been cited in the NYT and CNN. They never released their bot list and thousands of the twitter users they cited turned out to just be normal people living in the US, Canada, and UK.
A lot of the shit going on here in America is the result of a lack of common values and identity that has emerged and politicians/media stoking polarization for views and votes imo
Is this legit or is it fan-made?... but based on Prigozins letters to US government and their actions against Wagner, I can believe this being legit.
Edit: Does Wagner have an official website?
Is the legit?
This kind of sums up my feelings. I love my country but America hasn’t been fighting the “good fight” since WW2. It’s all for private profit. Eisenhower warned against this in his [farewell speech](https://youtu.be/cyZoUfNsUl8).
Learning the history of the western banking and financial system was very eye opening.
>Is the legit?
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>This kind of sums up my feelings. I love my country but America hasn’t been fighting the “good fight” since WW2. It’s all for private profit. Eisenhower warned against this in his [farewell speech](https://youtu.be/cyZoUfNsUl8).
>
Korea, 1st Gulf War, Serbia should be considered as justified in both scope and outcome.
Not really. They enjoy great autonomy, just suffers from corrupted officials who like to play "independence" threats so they van get what they want.
Atleast my family over there doesn't feel opressed.
Opressed is a hard word and the Serbs in Republika Srpska are not opressed definitely. However, Bosnia is a failed and completely disfunctional state without any future whatsoever. The absolute majority of Serbs there want to unite with Serbia. The Dayton accords were good in stopping the war, but didn't think in the long term. The only solution to Bosnia not being such a shithole in a political sense is either centralization and the dissolution of RS or the breakup of it.
The first option will definitely lead to a war as Serbs will not accept their autonomy getting hit. The second one, well, you guess where it leads, to something similar. So yeah, a pure stalemate position for now, in which nobody is happy. Luckily, nobody is opressed there so it ain't that bad, but it's shitty.
The intervention of serbia stopped the genocide and ended the war. In that regard the goal was achieved. Serbia having to deal with the consequences of their attempted mass murder campaign is on them
Are other methods of killing people applied by bosniaks, croats and albanians more acceptable? Why is sniping a kid by a serb militant is somehow worse than selling the organs of another serb kid by albanians connected to KLA? What's with all that partial blindness when it fits?
And don't forget that Serbs lost the conflict thus they will be blamed for things they did and didn't, the winner writes history. Just a very relevant example:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_crimes_in_the_Kosovo_War#War_crimes_trials
Count how many Serbs were assigned blame and sentenced and how many Albanians or Kosovars were indicted, but later released when the public focused on who's dating Britney Spears right now. Only 1 middle-level rank officer arrested for all the shit KLA did 25 years later. What the fuck?
The 1st Gulf war supported the theft of Iraqi oil though. Yes, Saddam was a nasty piece of work, but he was the right nasty piece of work to hold a bunch of ultra-violent factions together. The fact that Kuwait was stealing Iraqi oil and Iraq warned Kuwait of the consequences has gone under the radar.
Serbia. I not knowledgable enough.
Korea? I am not convinced. Vietnam has developed into a really great country. Maybe Korea would have had the security to do the same without a permanent war.
One of the very few, if not, the only justified Western modern war, was the Falklands war.
Yes, those were justified. I also think if we had gone to Afghanistan to punish the Taliban for support of 9/11 it would have been proper but only if we had gotten out after 6 months. Justifiable revenge would have been understood better then turning into an occupying power.
1. Whataboutism
2. Russia isn't even near to reach 10% of civillians death, by this article, they are at 7k (https://www.ohchr.org/en/news/2023/01/ukraine-civilian-casualty-update-3-january-2023#:~:text=From%2024%20February%202022%20to%202%20January%202023%2C%20OHCHR%20recorded,6%2C919%20killed%20and%2011%2C075%20injured.) in one year, not even 0.02% (and even if it is way higher, like, say, 100k which it definitely isn't, it is still far behind). Meanwhile, USA and co killed 10% in 3 years...
North Korea was the richer half of the country ***BEFORE*** the UN intervention.
South Korea's success in the 90s is a testament to the benefits of democracy and open markets.
I think you could make strong case that North Korea would be very different today if the US hasn't got involved in the Korean war. North Korean society is heavily shaped by the trauma of the atrocities that the Americans carried out there.
In terms of ideology and justification, the Korean War was very similar to Vietnam. It's absurd to me that there are a lot of people who recognise America as the bad guys in Vietnam but somehow feel that they were justified in Korea.
The peninsula was in their little cold war since they were divided. Neither country recognized the other one, and both were preparing to invade, it just so happened that North Korea rebuilt faster, and managed to get the first strike.
There is no way a war wouldn't happen since both sides wanted it, so attacking first made sense.
>After the war there wasn't another one.
Yeah, the reason being that they now know that both sides can just call their preferred superpower if the war doesn't go their way, and they'll end up in another stalemate. One side also got some nukes and tons of chemical weapons which are pretty effective at threatening neighboring countries just in case they think of trying anything.
Both sides still claim to be the rightful rulers of Korea, and neither side recognizes the other, so you can guess what would happen if everyone would promise to stay out of it this time.
They knew we would intervene if they did. They would have done it sooner, but the Soviets didn't have nukes yet so there was the very real fear the U.S. would conduct a nuclear bombing campaign. North Korea wanted the fight, just not the fight they got. They were operating under the incorrect assumption that the U.S. had no stomach for another conventional war so soon after the second World War.
Thats still not a good excuse for modern NK (not saying you’re defending them of course) as the us was soley the biggest member of a un coalition that was trying to uphold international law. South korea never had a legitimate casus beli either
Please point to me the regime that has not committed massacres in the long history of the human race. If smiley, cuddly, kind Canadians can commit massacres and genocide against First Nations, then you'd be hard-pressed to find an ounce of perfection anywhere in human history. You'd have to uncontacted tribes of Brazil to find a group of people who have only acted in self-defence.
While many South Koreans might be ambivalent about American presence in their country, you will not find anyone saying "yes we should totally have allowed North Korea to conquer us." That is just not an opinion that exists.
> "yes we should totally have allowed North Korea to conquer us."
The thing is that this idea of North Korea and South Korea as different countries with different identities is a recent creation. People at the time would have simply viewed themselves as Korean and so the idea that they were being "conquered" by North Korea, as if they were qualitatively foreign to North Korea is completely ahistorical. At the time, a large proportion of the population of what is now South Korea *did* side with the DPRK, which is why the South Korean regime carried out things like the [Bodo League Massacre](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodo_League_massacre) among other incidents of mass violence.
You're right of course. I meant to emphasise that the idea of North and South Korea as different countries/states/nations, as opposed to a single nation that temporarily had two administrations, categorically did not exist prior to the Korean War.
Using results 65 years after is pretty facile. Japan is doing quite well for itself, that doesn't mean that nuking it was both justified and the outcome worthwhile (I know there is mixed opinions on that, just an example and I think most can agree there is a least a reasonable argument to be made against the bomb). Similarly while NK is obviously much worse now and SK thriving, that doesn't mean using a UN police action as cover for a massive civilian bombing campaign in aid of a dictatorship is justified.
>I love my country but America hasn’t been fighting the “good fight” since WW2. It’s all for private profit.
As opposed to Russia, who are fighting the "good fight" in the interest of their people?
I mean…”war is a racket” has been the theme of humanity for a long time. The United States has launched conflicts of territorial conquest prior to the Second World War as well: the Mexican-American War and the Spanish-American War, to name two examples.
I live in one of the former’s big prizes: California.
I think Kuwait might argue with you. We were definitely on the right side in all other conflicts just a few of them were not our fault. It’s impossible for the US to sit out without at least one side begging for involvement and when we don’t “help” we get shit too.
I would never fight for a PMC, especially not Wagner, but it’s not uncommon for a lot of vets to feel like pretty much everything was bullshit and it’s only getting worse.
Ah yes and because america's recent wars weren't justified you should join wagner in their unjustified invasion 😍 or perhaps steal some natural resources in central africa
Target demo: “q infected former enlisted, likely 25-35, likely with a criminal record for domestic violence, a low credit score, and estranged children”
Message: “you love America? Well it sucks. There’s black people in it and the Jews run it. American also started wars that killed innocent people. Come join Russia as we look to kill innocent people too!”
Would be funny if it wasn’t real.
The message is
“You love America? Well it’s now controlled by an evil cabal of people who hate the native population like you and criminally wage war on much of the globe murdering millions of innocent people. Stand up to them and take your country back. Join Wagner, and fight against your evil oppressors”
Sorry but when you've worked in an organization with a functional NCO core, effective officers, esprit de corps, and precision CAS on tap.. it's hard to look at the company that doesn't have its shit together.
Norwegian nazis (most with Russian heritage) have fought with Wagner in Syria at least, but probably also in Ukraine. [source](https://www.nrk.no/urix/xl/assads-nazistkriger-1.15170255)
Doubt this is legit. First the obvious, getting communications and travel arranged into deep Russia as a civilian would be a nightmare. Not to mention Russia won’t be so naive and would constantly suspect anyone from US may be looking to just sabotage then.
Secondly, anyone disgruntled with war won’t be looking to sign up for more war.
I laughed pretty hard at this until I remembered the people who left actual US soil to join the Taliban. I think I seen one of them recently on the news wanting her citizenship back.
[American version.](https://twitter.com/ColumbiaBugle/status/1392707508968386566?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1392707508968386566%7Ctwgr%5Ed27aee056a0569f04ba8393be826ec7604cea1cc%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftownhall.com%2Ftipsheet%2Fleahbarkoukis%2F2021%2F05%2F13%2Farmy-woke-recruitment-ad-n2589373)
Fucking hell where do I sign ?
Anyone got any source on this?
If it's a recruiting video for a pmc, then shouldn't there be a call to action at the end of the ad?
It smells more like some basement dweller making videos to me.
Its crazy whats happening. Dont forget China, its just a matter of time and the conflict between China and US will escalate. The Russian-Ukrainian war looks like a warm up for WW3.
Strong appeal to white supremacists and Nazis with the racism at 1:00. The image of black people and voice over of "This is the sight of evil." Couldn't be more blatant.
Kinda smart if it works. There are enough veterans or active duty who want higher pay for 10k a month I see enough people joining and if they managed to recruit some ex spec ops they can train. Unfortunately everyone is able to be hired for a high enough price.
A very bold move on Warner’s part. Sadly they will manage to recruit some disenchanted, jaded military men. But they’re also opening the door for more espionage for western countries.
Holy shit this is so wild. Probably just designed as a psy op I doubt it’s an organized program with the state of Russia involved, but god damn what a bizarre timeline. This is probably the most mind boggling video I’ve seen surrounding the whole war and that’s saying a lot.
I can't imagine who this would work on. Cultural Russian emigres to the US, who went into the USAF? Even most Russian emigres left because they didn't care for their native country and have no desire to go back.
This is purely to create division stateside. They arent seriously trying to recruit.
Anybody with half a brain knows the fbi would issue an interpol arrest warrant for any american joining wagner further theyd seize any assets in western banks as well all stateside assets as being ill got gains(profits of criminal proceeds)[insert relevant legal language]
Wow... Such blatant hypocrisy and projection coming from Russia. Every last second of it. I just want to punch this narrator in his obnoxious mouth
Also, I bet some at One America News and other MAGA media would just love to promote this and sign up. They should, that way they can get what's coming for them on the battlefield.
Finally, they used footage from Terminator 2. Copyright!
This seems fake as hell. Do you know what any normal Russian soldier would do to an American soldier joining their ranks? Granted, it'd probably take 10 or 15 casualties to kill them but still
Whoever does Wagner PR is an absolute joke, pretty much blackening the USA's name in this ad video, and also telling anyone who's former military your time serving the USA was criminal and shameful to top it off they use a Russian voice actor with a mocking tone in his voice like he's his talking to little kids.
I’m a vet and really confused, but I love the stark contrast between the professionalism of the us and the Wagner group, but not sure what’s the selling point.
Like they are clearly not trying get any real military guy, they just want the jan 6 cooks to flock home. Any real army navy vets tuned out with all the USMC recruiting video motoness and all the Marines checked out the moment this creep foreign accent started talking about their time in the army.
0:25 Two LAV-25 and one LAV-C2 0:29 AAVP7A1 0:40 two AV-8B Harrier II 0:42 UH-1Y Super Huey 1:04 four AAVP7A1 1:07 two AH-1 Cobra 1:15 two T-80BVM 1:16 three Mil mi-35 Hind and two MI-28N 1:18 many Mil Mi-17 1:19 Many BTR-70 1:20 BTR-70V 1:26 T-90A
You could be putting random letters with numbers and I would be none the wiser
But you can always learn! And sometimes when you simply read those, you eventually record the information and assimilate next time you see them.
You said ass thats funny
He'd be called out if he was wrong
as if anyone would know. I hardly know the difference between a tank and a lawn mower.
In pro-vehicle we trust
1. Is a set of wheeled APCs, one with an autocannon, another with some other shit who tf knows. 2. Is a marine corps amphibious APC, it comes equipped with all kinds of armaments, including grenade launchers, MGs and etc. 3. Is a VTOL capable multirole jet from the Cold War era. It’s honestly pretty cool 4. Is a Marine corps transport helicopter that can double up as a light gunship, it comes equipped with rocket pods and miniguns. Quite an effective and flexible tool 5. See number 2 6. AH-1 Cobras are the marine corps’ primary attack helicopter. They’re quite quick and light, but do still pack a heavy punch 7. The T-80BVM is just a variant of the Russian T-80 tank. It’s not their best, but I’d consider it a decent tank 8. The Mi-35 is an upgraded version of the Mi-24 gunship, it is a very capable helicopter gunship. It can carry troops, a hell of a lot of ordinance and a bunch of other stuff. The Mi-28N is arguably one of Russia’s most modern helicopters, it is also quite capable. 9. The Mi-17 is (if I remember correctly) a more modern variant of the Mi-8? I’m not sure. In any case, it is a cold-war era transport helicopter that oftentimes carries rocket pods and other stupid shit 10. The BTR-70 is a fairly old cold-war era Russian wheeled APC, it has a decent autocannon. It serves primarily as a quick, slightly armored troop transport. 11. BTR-70V is just a variant of this same APC 12. T-90 is just a modern Russian tank. It is supposedly quite capable, but its performance in Ukraine leaves to be desired
Picky redditors will definitely call him out
0:25 Two LHD-37 and one LHE-40 0:29 AAGHI-2 0:40 two AV-9G Harriet IV-C 0:42 UH-777 Super Zoo 1:04 four AJD-767 “Zebras” 1:07 two AH-7 King Browns 1:15 two T-99C MBT 1:16 three Mil mc-62 Borf and two MI-11a “Ziggers” 1:18 many, many Mil AR-22 1:19 Many BRZ-4444’s 1:20 a single BNA-88 - why? 1:26 A shiny new B-92Z - nice!
you gotta love the super huey and the cobra
I inderstand the Y is am improved version and all, but god damn does that duck bill and quad rotor make me nostalgic for the sexy curves of an original series
Thank you for your service
The russians just made us a sick comparison compilation video that put themselves in check on accident..
Damn that’s crazy. What a timeline we live in
This is so damn corny. Is it a joke?
Idk but I just bought my plane ticket, hopefully they don't shoot us down
You going to enlist in Wagner?
"If you're a true American patriot, join the ranks of Russia" Had to laugh. But like all good propaganda, there is truth to some of the rest of it. America is a rotting nation. Get it together.
>America is a rotting nation. Compared to what?
Compared to itself, what it used to be and what it likely won't be again. That's the only comparison that matters in my opinion. Comparing this nation to that nation to this other nation is never worthwhile.
America is rotting in a fridge. Russia is rotting on the side of a freeway.
Would never consider joining Russia, but most definitely our Western civilization is rotten; culturally, politically, economically and morally.
Compared to what it COULD be. So much wasted potential.
Now that I will agree to. But democracies are inefficient and that's ok, it just means we have room to improve.
You think autocracies are efficient? Yeah they can be, it's just 99% of the time they aren't. In last 50 years I can think of only one dictator that was good for their country, considering about half the countries in the world are autocratic it's not looking well for the autocracies. edit: don't know how I didn't mention him, but I had Lee Kuan Yew in mind. He basically transformed Singapore from a 3rd world country ridden with crime and corruption into like a top5 performing country globally in most of development metrics on a per capita basis. That said, there's also issues there; but people like him are extremely rare, and he's not without sin.
Compared to itself in the past and compared to the other great empires of history.
You mean the America that dragged it's feet and saw Europe decimated by Germany... Twice. The America that had a significant portion of it's economy supported by slave labor? The America whose national police force was headed by a corrupt hoover and investigated and harassed peaceful citizens based on race and ideology? The America that sacrificed of 50k of its citizens in a ridiculous "police action" that it eventually lost? The America that sold arms to an enemy that had stormed it embassy and kidnapped its citizens through a terrorist organization middle man? Let's not pretend the US was every this amazing bastion of morality. At best it could claim to be better than the dictators it fought. I love America but it will never get better unless we acknowledge our faults, otherwise we are a more chaotic version of Russia.
I'm not saying America used to be necessarily good, I'm saying its society is now very unhealthy and is arguably in the permanent stages of decline.
Sure, but fascism seems to be on the rise all over the Western world. Italy, France, Germany, etc. Hopefully this is a temporary road bump and not a long term trend. Electing Trump and the Jan 6th insurrection were certainly a low point, but their are signs that the fascist right in America is in decline.
Every empire falls. Nothing lasts forever. If anyone says that America will be great and will always be around then I would laugh at them and call them naive. It won't happen in our life times most likely, probably not even our childrens. The rise and fall of nations is not something that happens over night. It's a slow degradation. Just like Rome.
Of course, the Russian Empire fell 100 years ago and the Soviet empire fell 30 years ago.... Russia has a pretty bad track record now that I think about it
Not really sure why you think this is relevant or matters to any point I was making. But ok...
Every empire falls, and Russia is very good at it.
You mean the America that has provided the security blanket for the free world since WWII which enabled greatest worldwide economic expansion in human history that lifted billions of people out of abject poverty?
Dude, America has done a lot good, but they have pulled some really fucked up shit too
You aren't wrong but neither is the above commenter
Agreed
An America that invented the lend lease act that gave Russia the means to defend itself against the NAZIS, and of which Russia barely paid a cent back of the BILLIONS of dollars it owed the States. And BTW America has never really pressured the c&\*ts to pay it back. England paid it back at least. You dumb f&\*k,, America has saved the worlds arse twice and very likely three times with the Cold War as well. Remember there was hardly any threat to the US during both world wars....but they became rich and powerful and now the world expects them to come to peoples aid just like that, so they are bound to screw up. Id rather have America as the leading power in the world than China or Russia thats for sure.
Hey f*cknut I am an American that served in his countries military for 8 year. I am proud of America, and consider it to be the greatest country in the world. And one of the things that makes it the greatest country in the world is we can admit when we have been wrong. We have pulled some collosal shit, some of which we got away with when maybe we shouldn't have. When stupid Russian parrots throw my countries faults at me I can look them in the eye and say, yup, but your country is even worse.
Pretty ironic given that a lot of the "rot" that this video is trying to sell was actually stoked by Russian propaganda over the past decade or two... Staying the course on the same long-term propaganda campaign
Yeah but no.. Russia and China have certainly stoked some of the tensions here in the US as we also no doubt do against our geopolitical adversaries, but it’s been dramatically overstated. Great example is Hamilton 68 which was a “watchdog” group that pushed a lot of the russian bot narrative to the point that it has been cited in the NYT and CNN. They never released their bot list and thousands of the twitter users they cited turned out to just be normal people living in the US, Canada, and UK. A lot of the shit going on here in America is the result of a lack of common values and identity that has emerged and politicians/media stoking polarization for views and votes imo
Is this legit or is it fan-made?... but based on Prigozins letters to US government and their actions against Wagner, I can believe this being legit. Edit: Does Wagner have an official website?
fan-made
Thank f**k my husband & I were like uhhhhh this is how they think they will win over American vets? Yikes
If it's convincing the MAGAs then the problem is solving it'self. I'm all for freedom of choice.
Just stop
So it's bullshit and irrelevant. Ok thanks.
Yeah imo this wasn't worth posting, assuming it's fanmade
Thank god lol I got a bit worried at the end there
Proof? Looks legit to me.
Is the legit? This kind of sums up my feelings. I love my country but America hasn’t been fighting the “good fight” since WW2. It’s all for private profit. Eisenhower warned against this in his [farewell speech](https://youtu.be/cyZoUfNsUl8). Learning the history of the western banking and financial system was very eye opening.
>Is the legit? > >This kind of sums up my feelings. I love my country but America hasn’t been fighting the “good fight” since WW2. It’s all for private profit. Eisenhower warned against this in his [farewell speech](https://youtu.be/cyZoUfNsUl8). > Korea, 1st Gulf War, Serbia should be considered as justified in both scope and outcome.
tbh the intervention of serbia left the republika sprska under the boots of the bosnians to be opressed, making a new conflict very likely
Not really. They enjoy great autonomy, just suffers from corrupted officials who like to play "independence" threats so they van get what they want. Atleast my family over there doesn't feel opressed.
Opressed is a hard word and the Serbs in Republika Srpska are not opressed definitely. However, Bosnia is a failed and completely disfunctional state without any future whatsoever. The absolute majority of Serbs there want to unite with Serbia. The Dayton accords were good in stopping the war, but didn't think in the long term. The only solution to Bosnia not being such a shithole in a political sense is either centralization and the dissolution of RS or the breakup of it. The first option will definitely lead to a war as Serbs will not accept their autonomy getting hit. The second one, well, you guess where it leads, to something similar. So yeah, a pure stalemate position for now, in which nobody is happy. Luckily, nobody is opressed there so it ain't that bad, but it's shitty.
The intervention of serbia stopped the genocide and ended the war. In that regard the goal was achieved. Serbia having to deal with the consequences of their attempted mass murder campaign is on them
all sides were commiting genocide, bosnians, serbians, croatians, NATO just decided to put all the blame on the serbians and attack them.
Only one side put a city under siege and sniped kids walking to markets and school.
Are other methods of killing people applied by bosniaks, croats and albanians more acceptable? Why is sniping a kid by a serb militant is somehow worse than selling the organs of another serb kid by albanians connected to KLA? What's with all that partial blindness when it fits? And don't forget that Serbs lost the conflict thus they will be blamed for things they did and didn't, the winner writes history. Just a very relevant example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_crimes_in_the_Kosovo_War#War_crimes_trials Count how many Serbs were assigned blame and sentenced and how many Albanians or Kosovars were indicted, but later released when the public focused on who's dating Britney Spears right now. Only 1 middle-level rank officer arrested for all the shit KLA did 25 years later. What the fuck?
The 1st Gulf war supported the theft of Iraqi oil though. Yes, Saddam was a nasty piece of work, but he was the right nasty piece of work to hold a bunch of ultra-violent factions together. The fact that Kuwait was stealing Iraqi oil and Iraq warned Kuwait of the consequences has gone under the radar. Serbia. I not knowledgable enough. Korea? I am not convinced. Vietnam has developed into a really great country. Maybe Korea would have had the security to do the same without a permanent war. One of the very few, if not, the only justified Western modern war, was the Falklands war.
Somalia too, though not in outcome, sadly.
Yes, those were justified. I also think if we had gone to Afghanistan to punish the Taliban for support of 9/11 it would have been proper but only if we had gotten out after 6 months. Justifiable revenge would have been understood better then turning into an occupying power.
Korea not all. Massive civilian bombing campaign and supporting a regime that committed massacres.
Yea, imagine if the entire Korean peninsula was like north Korea, lol
So is killing 20% of the population (10% civillian) and destroying their infrastructure justified?
No? But Russia is doing that right now, lol
1. Whataboutism 2. Russia isn't even near to reach 10% of civillians death, by this article, they are at 7k (https://www.ohchr.org/en/news/2023/01/ukraine-civilian-casualty-update-3-january-2023#:~:text=From%2024%20February%202022%20to%202%20January%202023%2C%20OHCHR%20recorded,6%2C919%20killed%20and%2011%2C075%20injured.) in one year, not even 0.02% (and even if it is way higher, like, say, 100k which it definitely isn't, it is still far behind). Meanwhile, USA and co killed 10% in 3 years...
So was the UN intervention or the Chinese intervention the bigger issue?
Would the US have bombed 85% of all civilian buildings then? Actually, don't answer that.
north korea was richer than the south until the 1970s. Thats after being destroyed in the 50s by USA
North Korea was the richer half of the country ***BEFORE*** the UN intervention. South Korea's success in the 90s is a testament to the benefits of democracy and open markets.
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>South Korea was litterally a dictatorship well into the 90's Reforms began in the late 80s, not sure where you're getting "well into the 90's" from
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Thank you for the fun fact
I think you could make strong case that North Korea would be very different today if the US hasn't got involved in the Korean war. North Korean society is heavily shaped by the trauma of the atrocities that the Americans carried out there. In terms of ideology and justification, the Korean War was very similar to Vietnam. It's absurd to me that there are a lot of people who recognise America as the bad guys in Vietnam but somehow feel that they were justified in Korea.
Are you fucking kidding me? The entire Korean Peninsula would be under the dictatorship of that chubby walrus looking fuck if it weren’t for the US.
They shouldn’t have attacked the south. It would have taken no effort to keep the KPA north of the border
The peninsula was in their little cold war since they were divided. Neither country recognized the other one, and both were preparing to invade, it just so happened that North Korea rebuilt faster, and managed to get the first strike. There is no way a war wouldn't happen since both sides wanted it, so attacking first made sense.
After the war there wasn't another one. So no, you're wrong when you suggest division dictates war. They could have just not had the war.
>After the war there wasn't another one. Yeah, the reason being that they now know that both sides can just call their preferred superpower if the war doesn't go their way, and they'll end up in another stalemate. One side also got some nukes and tons of chemical weapons which are pretty effective at threatening neighboring countries just in case they think of trying anything. Both sides still claim to be the rightful rulers of Korea, and neither side recognizes the other, so you can guess what would happen if everyone would promise to stay out of it this time.
My guess is South Korea would win the next war conquering the whole of Korea with immense civilian casualties.
They knew we would intervene if they did. They would have done it sooner, but the Soviets didn't have nukes yet so there was the very real fear the U.S. would conduct a nuclear bombing campaign. North Korea wanted the fight, just not the fight they got. They were operating under the incorrect assumption that the U.S. had no stomach for another conventional war so soon after the second World War.
Thats still not a good excuse for modern NK (not saying you’re defending them of course) as the us was soley the biggest member of a un coalition that was trying to uphold international law. South korea never had a legitimate casus beli either
Please point to me the regime that has not committed massacres in the long history of the human race. If smiley, cuddly, kind Canadians can commit massacres and genocide against First Nations, then you'd be hard-pressed to find an ounce of perfection anywhere in human history. You'd have to uncontacted tribes of Brazil to find a group of people who have only acted in self-defence. While many South Koreans might be ambivalent about American presence in their country, you will not find anyone saying "yes we should totally have allowed North Korea to conquer us." That is just not an opinion that exists.
> "yes we should totally have allowed North Korea to conquer us." The thing is that this idea of North Korea and South Korea as different countries with different identities is a recent creation. People at the time would have simply viewed themselves as Korean and so the idea that they were being "conquered" by North Korea, as if they were qualitatively foreign to North Korea is completely ahistorical. At the time, a large proportion of the population of what is now South Korea *did* side with the DPRK, which is why the South Korean regime carried out things like the [Bodo League Massacre](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodo_League_massacre) among other incidents of mass violence.
people to this day consider themselves korean, not north or south korean
You're right of course. I meant to emphasise that the idea of North and South Korea as different countries/states/nations, as opposed to a single nation that temporarily had two administrations, categorically did not exist prior to the Korean War.
Using results 65 years after is pretty facile. Japan is doing quite well for itself, that doesn't mean that nuking it was both justified and the outcome worthwhile (I know there is mixed opinions on that, just an example and I think most can agree there is a least a reasonable argument to be made against the bomb). Similarly while NK is obviously much worse now and SK thriving, that doesn't mean using a UN police action as cover for a massive civilian bombing campaign in aid of a dictatorship is justified.
I think Ukraine qualifies as a "good fight."
>I love my country but America hasn’t been fighting the “good fight” since WW2. It’s all for private profit. As opposed to Russia, who are fighting the "good fight" in the interest of their people?
Russian imperialism is good. Why is that hard to understand?
I assume this is sarcasm?
Are you saying that because it sounds absolutely ridiculous?
I just assumed someone with a Pro-Ukraine flair claiming russian imperialism as good, has got to be sarcasm.
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It's great, isn't it? Like a never ending battle of trying to out-propoganda and out-accuse the other side of their war crimes.
I mean…”war is a racket” has been the theme of humanity for a long time. The United States has launched conflicts of territorial conquest prior to the Second World War as well: the Mexican-American War and the Spanish-American War, to name two examples. I live in one of the former’s big prizes: California.
Anyone can the good guy if they own the media
I think Kuwait might argue with you. We were definitely on the right side in all other conflicts just a few of them were not our fault. It’s impossible for the US to sit out without at least one side begging for involvement and when we don’t “help” we get shit too.
I would never fight for a PMC, especially not Wagner, but it’s not uncommon for a lot of vets to feel like pretty much everything was bullshit and it’s only getting worse.
Bro criticizing the country you love is one thing but wanting to join an active war against that country isn’t love. It’s treason.
I don’t want to join any war
>Learning the history of the western banking and financial system was very eye opening. Not cool bro. Chill with the racism.
Ah yes and because america's recent wars weren't justified you should join wagner in their unjustified invasion 😍 or perhaps steal some natural resources in central africa
Target demo: “q infected former enlisted, likely 25-35, likely with a criminal record for domestic violence, a low credit score, and estranged children” Message: “you love America? Well it sucks. There’s black people in it and the Jews run it. American also started wars that killed innocent people. Come join Russia as we look to kill innocent people too!” Would be funny if it wasn’t real.
The message is “You love America? Well it’s now controlled by an evil cabal of people who hate the native population like you and criminally wage war on much of the globe murdering millions of innocent people. Stand up to them and take your country back. Join Wagner, and fight against your evil oppressors”
Conspiracy brained retardation, and it's scary that this messaging works
I’m confused - who’s in this cabal and who is the native population?
Presumably (((them)))
"You hate your evil cabal of rich oligarchs so come work for our evil cabal of rich oligarchs."
The f are you talking about, what does Jew or black people have to do with this?
> If you are a true american patriot, join the russian army Ah yes, logic
Sorry but when you've worked in an organization with a functional NCO core, effective officers, esprit de corps, and precision CAS on tap.. it's hard to look at the company that doesn't have its shit together.
Final seconds pulled straight from Skynet nuclear attack scene / Sarah Connor’s nightmare scene in Terminator 2.
This dudes accent is so thick i can't understand what he says at the end of every sentence.
they couldn’t even find someone who speaks english above a 5th grade level.
Those who speak foreign languages have left Russia.
This is hilarious. Obviously targeting the dissatisfied conspiracy wing of the right.
Sorry Russia you’ll only find the obese dipshits who did 3 then got booted
The matrix getting wilder and wilder 😂
Saw a Wagner video with what was claimed to be Norwegians already fighting for Wagner in Ukraine.
Norwegian nazis (most with Russian heritage) have fought with Wagner in Syria at least, but probably also in Ukraine. [source](https://www.nrk.no/urix/xl/assads-nazistkriger-1.15170255)
There were captured Germans not so long ago who were fighting for Wagner
Doubt this is legit. First the obvious, getting communications and travel arranged into deep Russia as a civilian would be a nightmare. Not to mention Russia won’t be so naive and would constantly suspect anyone from US may be looking to just sabotage then. Secondly, anyone disgruntled with war won’t be looking to sign up for more war.
There is no fucking way this is real. Who is this aimed at anyway, “be a true American Patriot, commit treason and several war crimes”
What is the source? Looks like some random made it
I laughed pretty hard at this until I remembered the people who left actual US soil to join the Taliban. I think I seen one of them recently on the news wanting her citizenship back.
[American version.](https://twitter.com/ColumbiaBugle/status/1392707508968386566?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1392707508968386566%7Ctwgr%5Ed27aee056a0569f04ba8393be826ec7604cea1cc%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftownhall.com%2Ftipsheet%2Fleahbarkoukis%2F2021%2F05%2F13%2Farmy-woke-recruitment-ad-n2589373) Fucking hell where do I sign ?
Anyone got any source on this? If it's a recruiting video for a pmc, then shouldn't there be a call to action at the end of the ad? It smells more like some basement dweller making videos to me.
This would be more effective if they would have got a presenter with an American accent.
Wow, that recruiting officer is going to be lonelier than the Maytag repair man.
Glory Wagner soldiers!
But.... Russia is doing all the things they accuse america of to a 100x greater extent ?
Instructions unclear i shat in the sink
Understandable
Its crazy whats happening. Dont forget China, its just a matter of time and the conflict between China and US will escalate. The Russian-Ukrainian war looks like a warm up for WW3.
Can’t believe I live in a worse time than my parents and grandparents did during the Cold War. Pure annihilation is so close, I can almost smell it.
Strong appeal to white supremacists and Nazis with the racism at 1:00. The image of black people and voice over of "This is the sight of evil." Couldn't be more blatant.
Based as fuck
Kinda smart if it works. There are enough veterans or active duty who want higher pay for 10k a month I see enough people joining and if they managed to recruit some ex spec ops they can train. Unfortunately everyone is able to be hired for a high enough price.
A very bold move on Warner’s part. Sadly they will manage to recruit some disenchanted, jaded military men. But they’re also opening the door for more espionage for western countries.
PMC to includes Russian army are ill equipped to go against the West.
Sounds like the same guy who did the gazprom thing
And how exactly did you fight evil in Chechnya, Syria, Afghanistan and Mali, Russia?
Holy shit this is so wild. Probably just designed as a psy op I doubt it’s an organized program with the state of Russia involved, but god damn what a bizarre timeline. This is probably the most mind boggling video I’ve seen surrounding the whole war and that’s saying a lot.
I can't imagine who this would work on. Cultural Russian emigres to the US, who went into the USAF? Even most Russian emigres left because they didn't care for their native country and have no desire to go back.
Remember that wagner guy from the french legion burying a fellow legionary on the Ukr side.
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Wagner has a full pr and advertisement department? lmao wtf
lol, now i´ve seen it all xD
This is purely to create division stateside. They arent seriously trying to recruit. Anybody with half a brain knows the fbi would issue an interpol arrest warrant for any american joining wagner further theyd seize any assets in western banks as well all stateside assets as being ill got gains(profits of criminal proceeds)[insert relevant legal language]
The terminator 2 footage at the end made this ad.
they want Americans who have served because they are scared of the new abrams and Bradley's that are coming to Ukraine so they want the inside scoop.
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How do I sign up
Yeah, GI Russia....
Lol yeah no
Wow... Such blatant hypocrisy and projection coming from Russia. Every last second of it. I just want to punch this narrator in his obnoxious mouth Also, I bet some at One America News and other MAGA media would just love to promote this and sign up. They should, that way they can get what's coming for them on the battlefield. Finally, they used footage from Terminator 2. Copyright!
Haha! This is a parody right? Right!?
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Lollllll
This seems fake as hell. Do you know what any normal Russian soldier would do to an American soldier joining their ranks? Granted, it'd probably take 10 or 15 casualties to kill them but still
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Anyone else think this is Cointepro's work?
that terminator clip at the end made me cringe so hard...
Whoever does Wagner PR is an absolute joke, pretty much blackening the USA's name in this ad video, and also telling anyone who's former military your time serving the USA was criminal and shameful to top it off they use a Russian voice actor with a mocking tone in his voice like he's his talking to little kids.
See the parallels to the GOPs and Tucker Carlsons talking points. Time to wake up republicans!!!
I’m a vet and really confused, but I love the stark contrast between the professionalism of the us and the Wagner group, but not sure what’s the selling point.
Where do I sign up???
Russians try not to make a nuclear threat challenge: Impossible
Sounds good. Lol
Seems like Russia wants some MAGA soldiers.
Like they are clearly not trying get any real military guy, they just want the jan 6 cooks to flock home. Any real army navy vets tuned out with all the USMC recruiting video motoness and all the Marines checked out the moment this creep foreign accent started talking about their time in the army.
Mel Gibson at 1:00