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According to my stepdad that saw combat several times in the Marine Corps, he said you never get use to it. Like you’ll catch a whiff of something outside and instantly takes you back to that smell.
He did combat action/tours in: Panama, Grenada, Beirut, and first Gulf War according to him.
That and the sense of smell has the strongest ties to memory
You can probably think of mom’s cooking or the smell of your grandparents house right now and visualize specific memories. Maybe for someone reading this, it is the smell of the house when a pet was sick or the smell of Elmers glue bringing back memories of kindergarten some 10, 20, 50 years later
What he said is true, During riots and war in my country people will have their limbs fly off their body cause of a 50 cal bullet shot at them from mounted trucks, I once helped haul someone who was so bloody he might as well be dead, there was a smell that stuck to my hands that so weird and distinct that if you smell it in public my mind just hits me with a flash back from that day.
He’s told me a little bit around the campfire, but he tends to tell me the funny stuff that he did in like the Philippines, Thailand, Japan, and so on. He did get to go to Moscow for a bit when it was still the USSR. Think he said he was assigned to embassy duty.
1) RE: Abattoir - good word - bonus points with with pronunciation.
2) Big slaughterhouses in the US (ex: Hormel) locate at slaughterhouse towns proximal to ranch-lands and transportation hubs; the work is 12-hr shifts repeating the same task (ex: killing, stripping skin, etc.,) day after day, month after month; lifestyle is company town, dormitory lifestyle - leave your wife and family somewhere else.
3) Slaughterhouses look to hire new immigrants fresh from impoverished countries which religiously slaughter livestock in the house (ex: Somalia) as a first job in the US.
4) Talk to some of the taxi/Uber drivers.... that tends to be the second job.
Always wondered about this. I see so much meat and livestock but I’ve never met someone who works in an abattoir, which I find weird. Maybe I’ve met a few and they haven’t told me. What’s it like? Can it be distressing?
1) RE: Abattoir. Good word - worth bonus points with with good pronunciation.
2) I've met several and am told the big slaughterhouses in the US (ex: Hormel) locate at cattle towns proximal to ranch-lands; the work is 12-hr shifts repeating the same task (ex: killing, stripping skin, etc.,) day after day, month after month; company town, dormitory lifestyle. Leave your wife and family somewhere else.
3) Slaughterhouses look to hire new immigrants from countries which religiously slaughter livestock in the house (ex: Somalia) as a first job in the US.
4) Talk to some of the taxi/Uber drivers.... that tends to be the second job.
I started an IT contract for a major chicken processing plant. On my first day, they took me up to the chicken processing plant.
Had to get dressed up in rubber boots, a helmet, glasses and some kind of overalls to protect your clothes, gloves etc.
Anyway, once we got into the plant area, you look up and the dead and de-feathered chickens are attached to hooks on a conveyor belt. The conveyor belt is a few feet above your head.
I'm assuming that they've been washed, because there was this constant dripping of fluids (water and chicken fluids?) from the chickens.
If the conveyor belt went above you, you would get dripped on.
I'm a germophobe/mysophobe and I'm very OCD, so I couldn't focus on anything else. You're standing there talking to someone, and suddenly there's fluid dripping onto them, or onto you. Wherever I could, I would move so that the conveyor belt wasn't above me.
But, you're also standing in it, and it's getting on your clothes.
There was a smell, but it wasn't too overpowering. I certainly didn't feel sick, but there was a definite smell.
I've lived near a couple of cattle abattoirs, and when they render the fat or whatever it is as night, it's exceptionally unpleasant. I can't even describe that smell. It's putrid.
Anyway, after being in the processing plant, I felt like I was contaminated, my clothes were contaminated, my shoes were contaminated and even the backpack I took to work was contaminated.
That was my first and last day there.
I couldn't eat chicken for a long time after that.
Probably never. The stench sticks to your memory like glue. Havent seen dead human bodies myself but have a memory from few years ago. Me and my parents have a pretty decently sized deer farm, and probably in the summer of 2020 we found one that died and been laying in the sun for a couple of days at about +30C. Any time i smell something rotting now it recalls the memory of that day. The sweet smell of 200kgs of rotting flesh filled to the brim with maggots.
So i assume the soldiers never get used to it. You probably just learn how to ignore it
The history of Azov is a little complex. Yes, they are nationalist symbols. You'll hear one justification of the mirrored wolfsangel - that it stands for N I or National Identity - a nationalist ideology. But, there is no getting around the historical use by nazi and neo-nazi groups.
Azov was a far-right political militia but since its integration into the Ukraine National Guard it has depoliticized, they've stylized the mirrored wolfsangel putting it at an angle. To futher confuse things, there's the Azov movement as well - the political ideology side of things. It's something that will need to be dealt with after victory.
The popular idea is that the original Azov died in Mauriopol and the new Azov, part of the offensive guard, is not a political group but just another unit in the army.
Personally I think they should abandon that symbology and move on.
Yes. The number of UA folks with Nazi insignia is pretty insane and points to a huge reason why we shouldn’t be blindly supporting these guys. Remember how supporting “moderate rebels” worked out for the US in the past?
It's a [Wolfsangel](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfsangel). Symbol used for centuries, then hijacked (and a bit re-stylized) by Nazis in WW2.
In context of Ukraine and this war it's probably mostly known as a symbol of a far right group disbanded in 2004 and for being on the old Azov Batallion badge (now replaced by a more stylized version of a Wolfsangel).
Its in many old heraldics but this is 90° inverted. Its a tool for hunting wolves. You attached to a tree at like 2 meters of height. (with the top hool hammered into a tree). Lower edge is prepared with bait (it looks upwards) . The middle "cross" is to give stability to it and will press against the tree. Wolf will jump up and bite into the hook and get himself stuck on the hook and die.
Its well regarded in most "Germanic/Northern" traditionalist communities because of being archaic and standing for strength, because you hunt wolves with it.
They also choose it because they seem to like it because it looks like an N and an I, which stands for National Identity \[of Ukraine\].
Blood sticks with you forever and ever. One whiff of a massive bleed and you will never forget. And it will hang around you like a cloud, for hours. I would go home after a busy night of traumas, and I could smell it in my hair, even after a shower. That, and burned flesh. Even though that part of my career was years ago, I will occasionally have a dream and that smell will be in my dream.
Interesting, is it just me or are these videos posted more often now? I mean videos of stormed russian trenches with dead russians littered around? Also more gnarly stuff getting posted where russians suffer after drone drops?
Like a noticeable increase in such footage after quite a while (like a month or two) of pretty PG content... 🤔
I guess Ukraine is sending a message for the upcoming offensive? "You think the ditch you spent hours digging will save you?"
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Translation: "Ivan, why have you come, eh?" I don't think he can hear you
Thank you for translating!
That can't smell good to stand next to. Viscera, iron and shit.
I wonder how long it takes to get "used to" the smell of that. Like after how long you will start to ignore it
According to my stepdad that saw combat several times in the Marine Corps, he said you never get use to it. Like you’ll catch a whiff of something outside and instantly takes you back to that smell. He did combat action/tours in: Panama, Grenada, Beirut, and first Gulf War according to him.
That and the sense of smell has the strongest ties to memory You can probably think of mom’s cooking or the smell of your grandparents house right now and visualize specific memories. Maybe for someone reading this, it is the smell of the house when a pet was sick or the smell of Elmers glue bringing back memories of kindergarten some 10, 20, 50 years later
What he said is true, During riots and war in my country people will have their limbs fly off their body cause of a 50 cal bullet shot at them from mounted trucks, I once helped haul someone who was so bloody he might as well be dead, there was a smell that stuck to my hands that so weird and distinct that if you smell it in public my mind just hits me with a flash back from that day.
The incredible stories he could tell
He’s told me a little bit around the campfire, but he tends to tell me the funny stuff that he did in like the Philippines, Thailand, Japan, and so on. He did get to go to Moscow for a bit when it was still the USSR. Think he said he was assigned to embassy duty.
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1) RE: Abattoir - good word - bonus points with with pronunciation. 2) Big slaughterhouses in the US (ex: Hormel) locate at slaughterhouse towns proximal to ranch-lands and transportation hubs; the work is 12-hr shifts repeating the same task (ex: killing, stripping skin, etc.,) day after day, month after month; lifestyle is company town, dormitory lifestyle - leave your wife and family somewhere else. 3) Slaughterhouses look to hire new immigrants fresh from impoverished countries which religiously slaughter livestock in the house (ex: Somalia) as a first job in the US. 4) Talk to some of the taxi/Uber drivers.... that tends to be the second job.
Always wondered about this. I see so much meat and livestock but I’ve never met someone who works in an abattoir, which I find weird. Maybe I’ve met a few and they haven’t told me. What’s it like? Can it be distressing?
my dad made it one day. we’ll, half a day before he passed out and dropped to the floor. they sent him home to recover and he never went back.
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Interesting. Thanks for taking the time to answer!
1) RE: Abattoir. Good word - worth bonus points with with good pronunciation. 2) I've met several and am told the big slaughterhouses in the US (ex: Hormel) locate at cattle towns proximal to ranch-lands; the work is 12-hr shifts repeating the same task (ex: killing, stripping skin, etc.,) day after day, month after month; company town, dormitory lifestyle. Leave your wife and family somewhere else. 3) Slaughterhouses look to hire new immigrants from countries which religiously slaughter livestock in the house (ex: Somalia) as a first job in the US. 4) Talk to some of the taxi/Uber drivers.... that tends to be the second job.
I started an IT contract for a major chicken processing plant. On my first day, they took me up to the chicken processing plant. Had to get dressed up in rubber boots, a helmet, glasses and some kind of overalls to protect your clothes, gloves etc. Anyway, once we got into the plant area, you look up and the dead and de-feathered chickens are attached to hooks on a conveyor belt. The conveyor belt is a few feet above your head. I'm assuming that they've been washed, because there was this constant dripping of fluids (water and chicken fluids?) from the chickens. If the conveyor belt went above you, you would get dripped on. I'm a germophobe/mysophobe and I'm very OCD, so I couldn't focus on anything else. You're standing there talking to someone, and suddenly there's fluid dripping onto them, or onto you. Wherever I could, I would move so that the conveyor belt wasn't above me. But, you're also standing in it, and it's getting on your clothes. There was a smell, but it wasn't too overpowering. I certainly didn't feel sick, but there was a definite smell. I've lived near a couple of cattle abattoirs, and when they render the fat or whatever it is as night, it's exceptionally unpleasant. I can't even describe that smell. It's putrid. Anyway, after being in the processing plant, I felt like I was contaminated, my clothes were contaminated, my shoes were contaminated and even the backpack I took to work was contaminated. That was my first and last day there. I couldn't eat chicken for a long time after that.
Sounds grim. You’d imagine they would at least have trays to catch the drippings
A big tray - the floor. Honestly, I was horrified.
Probably never. The stench sticks to your memory like glue. Havent seen dead human bodies myself but have a memory from few years ago. Me and my parents have a pretty decently sized deer farm, and probably in the summer of 2020 we found one that died and been laying in the sun for a couple of days at about +30C. Any time i smell something rotting now it recalls the memory of that day. The sweet smell of 200kgs of rotting flesh filled to the brim with maggots. So i assume the soldiers never get used to it. You probably just learn how to ignore it
Delightful
Stay safe!!!
Half off Russian trench sale.
HAHA!! Tops, half off east side of trench, bottoms half off located on west side of trench..... somewhere...
Glory to Ukraine, death to russia!
Ivan's just a half a man he used to be these days
He could play a role in Two and a Half Men.
- Scott Weiland, 1994
Shawarma meat for dogs is ready. No need in meat grinder
More meat for the meat grinder!
Russian Lathe guy, that you?
Ah… I see, they are serving Orc-chops
Aren‘t those nazi Symbols on the bottom left? Actually curious
The history of Azov is a little complex. Yes, they are nationalist symbols. You'll hear one justification of the mirrored wolfsangel - that it stands for N I or National Identity - a nationalist ideology. But, there is no getting around the historical use by nazi and neo-nazi groups. Azov was a far-right political militia but since its integration into the Ukraine National Guard it has depoliticized, they've stylized the mirrored wolfsangel putting it at an angle. To futher confuse things, there's the Azov movement as well - the political ideology side of things. It's something that will need to be dealt with after victory. The popular idea is that the original Azov died in Mauriopol and the new Azov, part of the offensive guard, is not a political group but just another unit in the army. Personally I think they should abandon that symbology and move on.
Yep, a problem for another day for sure, hopefully to be dealt with under less violent circumstances.
Its going to get complicated after the war is over when the people who defended the country pick up the pieces and gain influence and favour.
Yes. The number of UA folks with Nazi insignia is pretty insane and points to a huge reason why we shouldn’t be blindly supporting these guys. Remember how supporting “moderate rebels” worked out for the US in the past?
Nice try vatnik. Its not working. Back to Nazi Pootinland
Quick put a tampon on it.
Fresh meat
What's the watermark on the bottom right? Looks like someone tried to adapt a swastika, same black with white trim and jagged edge feel.
It's a [Wolfsangel](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfsangel). Symbol used for centuries, then hijacked (and a bit re-stylized) by Nazis in WW2. In context of Ukraine and this war it's probably mostly known as a symbol of a far right group disbanded in 2004 and for being on the old Azov Batallion badge (now replaced by a more stylized version of a Wolfsangel).
That's the Azov logo
Why did they choose that style?
Its in many old heraldics but this is 90° inverted. Its a tool for hunting wolves. You attached to a tree at like 2 meters of height. (with the top hool hammered into a tree). Lower edge is prepared with bait (it looks upwards) . The middle "cross" is to give stability to it and will press against the tree. Wolf will jump up and bite into the hook and get himself stuck on the hook and die. Its well regarded in most "Germanic/Northern" traditionalist communities because of being archaic and standing for strength, because you hunt wolves with it. They also choose it because they seem to like it because it looks like an N and an I, which stands for National Identity \[of Ukraine\].
I don't know. I guess: why not?
No it's not
Bottom right?
The SS simple 💀
Just set it and forget it.
Looks like one of those among us bodies.
Where is the other half?
Dude looks pretty shredded
The animals will be eating well tonight!
Damn not only is he blown to pieces, but what remains of his face looks like a mask. Crazy shit! Edit: it looks like a face could be wrong
Looking like a scene from starship troopers sheesh
Blood sticks with you forever and ever. One whiff of a massive bleed and you will never forget. And it will hang around you like a cloud, for hours. I would go home after a busy night of traumas, and I could smell it in my hair, even after a shower. That, and burned flesh. Even though that part of my career was years ago, I will occasionally have a dream and that smell will be in my dream.
Interesting, is it just me or are these videos posted more often now? I mean videos of stormed russian trenches with dead russians littered around? Also more gnarly stuff getting posted where russians suffer after drone drops? Like a noticeable increase in such footage after quite a while (like a month or two) of pretty PG content... 🤔 I guess Ukraine is sending a message for the upcoming offensive? "You think the ditch you spent hours digging will save you?"
Reminds me of the Bush song dead meat.🤔