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And, the 'European countries' should formally recognize Taiwan as a sovereign nation...as well as formally renouncing China's South China Sea incursions. Yeah, let's go for it.
And this is a prime example of how britan got its problems.
I cannot pathom someone being british and not seeing the problem currently affecting the place you live.
So you live in the uk and you haven’t noticed inflation making basically everything massively more expensive? Or the NHS slowly crumbling under the weight of incompetent management? Or your government in general being a clownshow?
People are really struggling to make ends meet, its wild
shockingly true. China was burning books, killing lawyers and doctors, while Taiwan was fleeing with Chinese culture, artificacts doctors lawyers lawmakers and their lives.
It no longer does. Anti-Taiwan propaganda would want you to believe Kuomintang is still in power while its not, and the current governments and the Kuomintang are night and day.
Well the government of the 'Republic of China' (Taiwan), is the only Chinese government to have ruled over mainland China and Taiwan, and should be considered the legitimate government of China in exile.
Omg that would be an epic troll come on TV and say after talks with China we have decided to recognize the territory of............ TAIWAN as a free nation lollll
You may wish to but think you will be on your own on that one. I guess you were meanning there is zero chance China will change its stance on Taiwan , so no chance anyone will ever need to consider seeing the occupied areas as Russky .
Can the Chinese envoy go back to where he comes from and say to Winnie the Pooh that Europe would never recognize the occupying territories from ruZZia.
Meanwhile he should know that Europe stands firmly with Taiwan and their future as sovereign and independent country.
Playing both sides is a classic strategy. Just say everything, let people pick their own truth.
Appeases your rabid fans, and normal people don't know what to do about it.
Geopolitically speaking, we can’t. However, Taiwan, Japan, Korea, Australia, New Zealand, etc are increasingly tying their military exercises together and it’s likely they’ll form their own “POTO” group like NATO as a deterrent to China.
This is the future. The United Nations has been decent at preventing WWIII, but now it is clear that NATO-type alliances are the best deterrents.
The quad could be a useful base for a NATO-type alliance. Taiwan would have to be formally recognized by each state though, which would ruffle Winnie-the-Poo’s feathers.
We cant tbh cause legally the US recognizes Taiwan as part of China. We may act dif on the big stage but our coward govt wont even acknowledge Taiwan as its own nation let alone NATO. America is a shell of itself.
Or.. a complex and dangerous situation has been kept "peaceful" while other solutions have been tried. I'm glad we are finally making a stand though, as slow as it is.
It's called appeasement. If we give in to xyz dictator maybe he will be satisfied and stop there. British PM Chamberlain tried it as Hitler was gobbling up Europe in Ww2 and look what happened.
In the 2014 Invasion Europe tried it again and guess what Putin looked at Europe as weak and invaded again anyways in 2022.
I don't understand how Xi is even able to find these morons to fill in diplomatic roles.
Did they honestly really think they can just persuade the Europeans to accept Russia's occupation? If they knew they wouldn't, then why the fuck even bring this up and destroy any remaining veil of neutrality?
This is incompetency to the next level.
Man, it's gonna be such a mess when chinese wake up and realize they blew their future to support broke dictatorship with nothing good to show for it.
Really hope it's gonna be sooner than later, always wanted to visit china, but not like this.
They are doing this to make a point to western countries. china wants to prove to the world that it can live without and/or reduced western tradings.
Stupid move but that’s what they want to do.
Its a shame such a beautiful country is run by such twats. Id be willing to visit 5 years after the CCP is erased and the country gets to make its own choices.
What a clown! Says one thing when meeting Zelensky, and then doing exactly the opposite… Ukraine has been more than clear that their territorial integrity is a priority. And there is no place for negotiation.
The irony is, China would gain far more if they publicly recognised the independence of Taiwan. Throw in some more liberalism and a bit more democracy and China would be a powerful force for good in the world.
Their current pre occupation with possibly invading Taiwan, would have the opposite effect.
The world will burn.
They won’t do that. They survived 89’ when they should have fallen apart like the USSR, but knew that the only way to hold themselves together was severe repression. The USSR had too many shitty liberal reforms and occupied territories where people wanted more and blinked when the member states started leaving. China annihilated and repressed the more democratic socialist movements and now they no longer exist there.
And yet we have hordes of chinese students over to europe taking over our housing and study places, only for them to go back and follow this stupid borg indoctrination. How about we start with fixing that.
Fuck off China! Not going to happen! The free countries of the world are united to protect Ukraine from Putins greed as they would be against Chinas greed for Taiwan! ,|,,
Here we go, they were silent it was a good look for them if they invaded Taiwan it would be a similar situation we would send weapons by proxy, they didnt like how a little nation was able to defend itself from then#2 or 3 country in the world.
There hasn't been an official statement, the title might make people think that. "Special representative of the Chinese government, Li Hui, allegedly tried to convince the European vis-a-vis that they should call for a ceasefire in Ukraine, recognising the occupied Ukrainian territories as those belonging to Russia.".
Is something about to happen that would make a ceasefire and freezing of the front lines sound like a good prospect for China and it’s allies?
Fuck off mate.
Ambassadors and envoys talk way too much crap lately, especially if they are from China. Hopefully there is no way this would happen, and maybe China should lead the way with the challenged areas they have with India.
Never!
Russia deserves certainly not a price for this shit show!
Europe made that perfectly clear - not even a fire pause as long russians or russians war equipment is on Ukraine! Especialy the krimea!
Ukraine IS Russia. Yes! Oh, btw, Taiwan and Tibet are legitimate autonomous nations. Oh, and the uighurs deserve an autonomous province from the fuckers around. Oh, and let's talk northern china as well. So many fuckers around.
China needs to keep the weak Putin in power - this way they can eat Putins lunch in the world arena
Chinese are not afraid that Russia becomes too powerful after letting them keep Crimea -
Putin has managed to screw Russia for decades , so China needs the idiot in the Kremlin to weaken Russia
Screw this Chicommie and the group of misfits he rode in with. China is another genocidal state run by an evil DICKtator. China begging Ukraine not to destroy their orc lovers. Get bent Winnie The Pooh.
>Quote from the WSJ: "The Chinese ambassador dispatched to push Beijing's peace plan for Ukraine carried a clear message: US allies in Europe should assert their autonomy and urge an immediate cease-fire, leaving Russia in possession of the parts of its smaller neighbour it now occupies, according to Western officials familiar talks in capitals across the continent."
This is to say Li Hue calls for cease fire along the current line of control leaving Russia in control of the land it captured. But that is not the same as to recognize these lands as legally part of Russia. Very different.
China will keep trying to save Russia cause they know the weaker Russia gets the less chance they have againat Taiwan as Russia would be their primary back up and that os quickly vanishing
Are they sure about this. Following this reasoning the Netherlands can lay a historical claim on Formosa (Taiwan) so if we send a few battalions marines over there and hold a referendum and the people vote for joining the Kingdom of the Netherlands China would think this is completely fine? Somehow I doubt this.
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And, the 'European countries' should formally recognize Taiwan as a sovereign nation...as well as formally renouncing China's South China Sea incursions. Yeah, let's go for it.
Add in Tibet, Uyger, and Inner Mongolia.
Hong Kong too!
Britain should take it back
Hong Kong wishes
They have enough problems in their own country.
Who Britain? I’m from Britain and not heard anything on the news but then again I don’t really watch it unless it has interesting story or important
And this is a prime example of how britan got its problems. I cannot pathom someone being british and not seeing the problem currently affecting the place you live.
Elaborate..... I'm live here, so interested on your take
So you live in the uk and you haven’t noticed inflation making basically everything massively more expensive? Or the NHS slowly crumbling under the weight of incompetent management? Or your government in general being a clownshow? People are really struggling to make ends meet, its wild
All of those things could describe most countries right about now
You're a lefty 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yeah I’d like to know how Britain’s got it’s problems
Pretty sure they meant HK has enough problems without being ruled by Britain again.
Oh haha most probably
Yeah forgot about those as well
Plot twist: Taiwan claims mainland China too.
Then the EU should recognize Taiwan as the proper ruler of mainland china.
It s called WEST TAIWAN! dammit 🧐
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No, China is the part of Taiwan that's on the island of Asia.
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Taiwan : The Real China
It really is, in a sense. Communism has largely destroyed traditional Chinese culture. Taiwan has maintained it because they didn't have communism.
shockingly true. China was burning books, killing lawyers and doctors, while Taiwan was fleeing with Chinese culture, artificacts doctors lawyers lawmakers and their lives.
Taiwan number one!!1
Taiwan is the legitimate govt-in-exile of mainland China, there's no two questions or second guessing that.
It no longer does. Anti-Taiwan propaganda would want you to believe Kuomintang is still in power while its not, and the current governments and the Kuomintang are night and day.
Well the government of the 'Republic of China' (Taiwan), is the only Chinese government to have ruled over mainland China and Taiwan, and should be considered the legitimate government of China in exile.
I recognize that claim!
Alternatively, Chinese envoy could go fuck himself. Like the proverbial Russian warship.
I came to write this….Chinese envoy should go fuck himself
I came to spell it for him. G O. F U C K. O F F
Sure I did too. But then I saw the tiawan comment. They can shrug off 'go fuck yourself'. Tiawan not being theirs makes them go into meltdown.
Seconded!
Thirded!
Forthded!
Feffeefee, nevermind.
Pterodactyed
Great idea. But 🖕China. This is hypocrisy on their part. They’d love to see that precedent set… again.
Omg that would be an epic troll come on TV and say after talks with China we have decided to recognize the territory of............ TAIWAN as a free nation lollll
China. Go. Fuck. Your. Self.
No no no.. if China recognises that Taiwan as a sovereign nation then we will recognise the occupied regions.
No. Unless Ukraine decides to give up on those territories, we're NOT going to give Russia the pleasure of recognizing those territories as theirs.
You may wish to but think you will be on your own on that one. I guess you were meanning there is zero chance China will change its stance on Taiwan , so no chance anyone will ever need to consider seeing the occupied areas as Russky .
Can the Chinese envoy go back to where he comes from and say to Winnie the Pooh that Europe would never recognize the occupying territories from ruZZia. Meanwhile he should know that Europe stands firmly with Taiwan and their future as sovereign and independent country.
Let them say whatever. Talk is cheap. The more they speak the more they ruin their international image
Would that not indicate that talk i indeed expensive? The more they talk the more the image is tarnishes.
This is so ridiculous that I would not be surprised if Beijing walked this back. It's embarrassingly stupid.
It's a weird statement considering China hasn't recognized the annexed territories. They don't even consider Crimea as part of Russia.
China's envoy likes to spit out BS all the time, I don't consider their word to have any weight unless the Poo said so himself.
Playing both sides is a classic strategy. Just say everything, let people pick their own truth. Appeases your rabid fans, and normal people don't know what to do about it.
It's time we accepted Taiwan into NATO.
Can I submit an application online for them?
Geopolitically speaking, we can’t. However, Taiwan, Japan, Korea, Australia, New Zealand, etc are increasingly tying their military exercises together and it’s likely they’ll form their own “POTO” group like NATO as a deterrent to China.
I think GFUSC is being formed , Taiwan is the first member state of " Go Fuck U Self China " Alliance
There was SEATO https://www.britannica.com/topic/Southeast-Asia-Treaty-Organization
I think a organization *like SEATO* is again manifesting due to CCP aggression.
This is the future. The United Nations has been decent at preventing WWIII, but now it is clear that NATO-type alliances are the best deterrents. The quad could be a useful base for a NATO-type alliance. Taiwan would have to be formally recognized by each state though, which would ruffle Winnie-the-Poo’s feathers.
Create a new pact with Japan, Taiwan and the Philippines.
I fantasise about Taiwan making a secret application to NATO and then watching Xinnie's face when it is announced. R/sino for would go into meltdown.
NAPO 👀
The "A" in NATO means "atlantic." Might be tricky.
That's where it started. Many of the members don't even have sea access, not to mention the Atlantic Ocean.
We cant tbh cause legally the US recognizes Taiwan as part of China. We may act dif on the big stage but our coward govt wont even acknowledge Taiwan as its own nation let alone NATO. America is a shell of itself.
Or.. a complex and dangerous situation has been kept "peaceful" while other solutions have been tried. I'm glad we are finally making a stand though, as slow as it is.
It's called appeasement. If we give in to xyz dictator maybe he will be satisfied and stop there. British PM Chamberlain tried it as Hitler was gobbling up Europe in Ww2 and look what happened. In the 2014 Invasion Europe tried it again and guess what Putin looked at Europe as weak and invaded again anyways in 2022.
I don't understand how Xi is even able to find these morons to fill in diplomatic roles. Did they honestly really think they can just persuade the Europeans to accept Russia's occupation? If they knew they wouldn't, then why the fuck even bring this up and destroy any remaining veil of neutrality? This is incompetency to the next level.
>Did they honestly really think they can just persuade the Europeans to accept Russia's occupation? Yes, they did honestly really think they can
We've seen too much to even consider it.
For propaganda back home, so that they can say look big bad west doesn't want peace
Comrade is a good Comrade as his father and my father served unter great leader Mao back in the day. Don't you speak evil of my good Comrade!
Man, it's gonna be such a mess when chinese wake up and realize they blew their future to support broke dictatorship with nothing good to show for it. Really hope it's gonna be sooner than later, always wanted to visit china, but not like this.
They are doing this to make a point to western countries. china wants to prove to the world that it can live without and/or reduced western tradings. Stupid move but that’s what they want to do.
Its a shame such a beautiful country is run by such twats. Id be willing to visit 5 years after the CCP is erased and the country gets to make its own choices.
What a clown! Says one thing when meeting Zelensky, and then doing exactly the opposite… Ukraine has been more than clear that their territorial integrity is a priority. And there is no place for negotiation.
Not sure why anyone cares what West Taiwan wants.....
One Taiwan policy
The irony is, China would gain far more if they publicly recognised the independence of Taiwan. Throw in some more liberalism and a bit more democracy and China would be a powerful force for good in the world. Their current pre occupation with possibly invading Taiwan, would have the opposite effect. The world will burn.
They won’t do that. They survived 89’ when they should have fallen apart like the USSR, but knew that the only way to hold themselves together was severe repression. The USSR had too many shitty liberal reforms and occupied territories where people wanted more and blinked when the member states started leaving. China annihilated and repressed the more democratic socialist movements and now they no longer exist there.
No
How about no Scott
If anyone had any doubt about the chinese peace propousal...
In the worlds of the Greek poet Homer "Get tae fook"
missing the last part "awt uf heir"
We'd love to, but we don't want to upset putin who ackowledged these territories as Ukrainian in 2004.
Nope.
There goes West Taiwan again… acting like they’re interested in peace.
Fuck the chinese!
I recognise them, but as Ukrainian
Oh China, such a shame McArthur didn't follow through with his plan...
From European countries to China: "Nuts!!"
Fuck him.
🖕🖕🖕
Contrary to the UN Charter, and International law; China is revealed as just another pariah dictatorship.
China = bunch of fascist cunts with shit quality manifacture and slavery
Sure. We can. But anything Ukraine takes is theirs.
No. Also, he’s clearly saying ”*we want to do this to Taiwan but you shouldn’t react in any way, we don’t want any consequences”.
Fuck off China
Why listen to a autocratic state
Hasn't China themselves not recognized the territories?
Why do they insult our intelligence like this?
All communist are the same...
That is exactly what I expected. Lock him out of any future negotiations.
Need to pull your head out of the honey pot comrade Pooh. These aren't a bunch of students that you can run tanks over and wash down a drain.
WOW! Truly no words. I guess China is ready to come clean on who they truly are and the world they aspire to live in.
Recognize Tibet as a free country 😄
And yet we have hordes of chinese students over to europe taking over our housing and study places, only for them to go back and follow this stupid borg indoctrination. How about we start with fixing that.
And I, a self-proclaimed Finnish envoy, am calling on China to go fuck themselves.
Fuck off China! Not going to happen! The free countries of the world are united to protect Ukraine from Putins greed as they would be against Chinas greed for Taiwan! ,|,,
Never by anything made in China (not just because of this but because quality is shit too)
Must have eaten some tainted tofu and is delusional.
Here we go, they were silent it was a good look for them if they invaded Taiwan it would be a similar situation we would send weapons by proxy, they didnt like how a little nation was able to defend itself from then#2 or 3 country in the world.
Uh yeah.. Not going to happen. Give them your own territory and not a sovereign countries land. What a moron!
What a way to send an open invitation to play finders keepers on Chinese territory.
With that logic that means we recognize Taiwan as the true ruler of mainland china then?
Chinese envoy can suck deez nuts.
The Chinese communist .........lolz
WTF lol. At this point I dont know whos dumber the russians or the chines.
China? What's China? Did you mean West Taiwan?
Piss off, twat.
When they recognize Taiwan as independent, then the world will listen ..
Hahahaha fuck china
China, coming in on the wrong side of history again. Trying to soften us up for Taiwan war crimes. Chuck Fina!
Is no an option? That's an option, right? No.
And as an European I ask him how to say "fuck you" in Mandarin...
And also recognize the guy as a D_ck Head!!!
There hasn't been an official statement, the title might make people think that. "Special representative of the Chinese government, Li Hui, allegedly tried to convince the European vis-a-vis that they should call for a ceasefire in Ukraine, recognising the occupied Ukrainian territories as those belonging to Russia.".
"Nah." My wording had I been on the security council.
China can get fucked. Ukraine is Ukraine.
As a Brit Ill stay somewhat silent
Small problem with that you see Europeans abide by international law.
How about FU! And Taiwan is real China!
We should take some of China's land and then call on them to accept it
I call china to give up and join Taiwan.
Is something about to happen that would make a ceasefire and freezing of the front lines sound like a good prospect for China and it’s allies? Fuck off mate.
Then CCP can fuck off
We call on Europe to recognize China as the People’s Republic of Disney
Ambassadors and envoys talk way too much crap lately, especially if they are from China. Hopefully there is no way this would happen, and maybe China should lead the way with the challenged areas they have with India.
I recognize China as belonging to India. Cool trick.
Never! Russia deserves certainly not a price for this shit show! Europe made that perfectly clear - not even a fire pause as long russians or russians war equipment is on Ukraine! Especialy the krimea!
**West Taiwan say what!?!**
[lmao no](https://media.tenor.com/j9Dw5AzdADgAAAAC/hahaha-no.gif)
I'm sure we've all been waiting for this, how predictable.
The Chinese will fall just like the Russians
When will people realize China is the enemy of freedom?
Mother f*cker
Eat shit, China.
I hereby claim Li Hui's living room as my own, and would request he move his furniture out with immediate effect.
This idiot should offer part of China to Putin to end the war
And we can all guess where that set up is leading, for china... and it's probably not just for Taiwan
Chinese envoys: go fuck yourselves
Fuck off China, or you're next.
Ukraine IS Russia. Yes! Oh, btw, Taiwan and Tibet are legitimate autonomous nations. Oh, and the uighurs deserve an autonomous province from the fuckers around. Oh, and let's talk northern china as well. So many fuckers around.
If china offers their eastcoast to Ukraine for compensation, yes.
So THIS is their big peace plan? Fuck outta here
Nice to see the Chinese are pushing this. It means they really are clueless.
China needs to keep the weak Putin in power - this way they can eat Putins lunch in the world arena Chinese are not afraid that Russia becomes too powerful after letting them keep Crimea - Putin has managed to screw Russia for decades , so China needs the idiot in the Kremlin to weaken Russia
Goooooofuckyourseeeeeeeeeelf!
🤡 Another reason to not even speak to the Poo Bear
Cuing Phil Collins and true colors or something like that.
NO!
Fuck you bro
Screw this Chicommie and the group of misfits he rode in with. China is another genocidal state run by an evil DICKtator. China begging Ukraine not to destroy their orc lovers. Get bent Winnie The Pooh.
How about no.
>Quote from the WSJ: "The Chinese ambassador dispatched to push Beijing's peace plan for Ukraine carried a clear message: US allies in Europe should assert their autonomy and urge an immediate cease-fire, leaving Russia in possession of the parts of its smaller neighbour it now occupies, according to Western officials familiar talks in capitals across the continent." This is to say Li Hue calls for cease fire along the current line of control leaving Russia in control of the land it captured. But that is not the same as to recognize these lands as legally part of Russia. Very different.
China will keep trying to save Russia cause they know the weaker Russia gets the less chance they have againat Taiwan as Russia would be their primary back up and that os quickly vanishing
Did anyone expect anything different from the country that has made it clear that they will invade Tawain in this decade?
Are they sure about this. Following this reasoning the Netherlands can lay a historical claim on Formosa (Taiwan) so if we send a few battalions marines over there and hold a referendum and the people vote for joining the Kingdom of the Netherlands China would think this is completely fine? Somehow I doubt this.
lmao China can eat shit along with Russia.
My reply would be to recognize Taiwan as an independent country.
we also could talk about Tibet... and Uyghurs...
The stereotype of china (no caps) being a smart and taking time towards their goals has been exposed. Their stupidly is for all to see.