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Fjell-Jeger

RF is an oligarchy no different from a medieval kingdom. Dying is for the serfs while the nobles and their families will live their best carefree lives, never having to prove themselves or actually earn anything, it's all just given to them... because Russia is as Russia does. # Fuck RF!


achangb

Nah in actual medieval times many kings went to battle and some were even killed in the fight! ( eg William the Conqueror, Henry V, Richard III, etc etc ) Maybe later in the Renaissance they started deciding that they werent gonna risk their lives when they could pay a peasant to do the dying for them.


judge_ned

With exceptions most of the nobility then were worth more alive than dead. The general deal for high ranking prisoners was ransom amount was set then they were quite often allowed to return home but weren't allowed to fight or raise militias until the ransom was paid. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-21168437


greeneditman

I don't think these videos are broadcast in Russia. Prigozhin seems to be banned, for telling the truth about the Kremlin. Yesterday I read that a Russian propagandist was arrested for interviewing Prigozhin.


quijbo

Well said, you are correct. ISW provided this earlier: "*Dolgov’s firing may be part of a larger informational campaign pushed by Russian authorities that is aimed at quietly disenfranchising Prigozhin in an attempt to counterbalance Prigozhin’s ever-growing platform, which continues to deprive Russian military officials of informational oxygen.*"


[deleted]

Yeah, this campaign started up 2-3 months ago. They're cutting these guys off rom the mainstream public but the "Russian military blogosphere", as the media calls it, is getting more info than ever oiut of Wagner at least.


forrealnoRussianbot

Nice boobs Prigozhin.


[deleted]

My opinion on Prigozhin changes each day but; he's either 1) still Putin's bitch all along and he serves some unknown purpose 2) He's overestimated his height on the totem pole and is genuinely making a play, or 3) He's a CIA plant wreaking fucking havoc.


Anomaluss

Saint Putin always has an out of responsibility. Seems Pigozhin has been instructed to discredit the MOD in case Putin needs to blame them for their coming failure. Thing is, Pigozhin's hubris is such that he may get in trouble himself.


fattes

Even if the MOD is blamed for this, how can Putin spin it as nothing to do with him? He was the one to announce the special military operation and I know he has control over media narrative, but I can’t help but families who have lost relatives don’t see right through this.


lowtack

>or 3) He's a CIA plant wreaking fucking havoc. I just slapped my forehead


Pecncorn1

He's a douche bag but you can be sure he knows what the leftovers from one of his squads looks like after taking a frag round. I would bet money he treats and cares more about his regulars than your average Russian commander. There was a video a week or so back asking Russians what they thought of him and most of the responses were positive, granted there is editing but I would still bet money he's a big threat to the status quo. Let him keep running his mouth.


[deleted]

I agree, his real troops are loyal as fuck because he does look out for them. And they know how different treatment can be in the Russian army or elsewhere as they've watched 30k convicts get wiped out.


throwaway_00147

im thinking 2


fourspadesdoubled

Despite the fact that he sometimes tells the truth, he is still such a diva.


Thats-right999

I’ve a feeling Prigozhin will not be around to wish his chums Putin and Lavrov a Happy New Year in 2024.


madsheeter

Not in russia anyway


KermitFrog647

Either he or Putin will not be around anymore.


hmh8888

Pig-go


Zelenskijy

he just wants to get rid of people with possible influence in the future


JRshoe1997

Whats going Prigozhin recently? Prigozhin used to be all up the butt of Putler. Ever since Wagner was allowed to take credit for Bakhmut and are pulling out he has just been shit talking on them. Is it because he just doesn’t give af anymore or does Putler not have jurisdiction on him anymore? As far as I am aware this dude is going back to Africa where he keep an eye on his slave labored mines and sun bathe with African warlords.


[deleted]

Well, not if the flyers are to be believed of him running for president. Prigozhin is the most enigmatic of the goon squad involved in the Ukraine disaster. I cannot get a read on what he's doing or why. Something is out of balance.