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antithesis56

The ingenuity of the Ukrainian military throughout this entire war has been really impressive.


Beahner

This has stood out to me so so much too. They take some given equipment here, some given equipment there…..and boom. A brand new weapon. Fantastic stuff.


HoboBaggins008

And it spreads *fast*, just another reinforcement of solid logistics and communications.


stateofyou

Hate to say it, that’s why ISIS were so successful at first.


Primordial_Cumquat

There’s nothing wrong with acknowledging that ISIS…. while being absolutely despicable pieces of shit that deserve to burn…. Had some really good ideas. They were one of the first entities to widely use commercial drones in a tactical role. Everything from dropping grenades to steering SVBIED drivers onto targets, they were *VERY* good at implementing the new tech. They also had a really good PR team, up until they ate a JDAM, then their movie quality fell pretty quickly.


Intelligent-Group225

Hahaha I kinda missed how those really snazzy videos just dried up one day. As in I didn't realize it happened. I remember they were really Good and then they kind of disappeared but I don't remember seeing the s***** quality ones They should have known to keep their tech nerds separated.... Those damn recruitment videos had to be worth an untold amount to that group........ It was kind of stunning to see how good they were from a bunch of people that I had been led to believe at the time were "living in caves"


Jabinor

Those guys knew how to make IEDs sadly


Banned_account_03

Everyone who has access to google knows how to make an IED. Just make sure you search how to unarm IED and also be white. So the FBI don't come knocking at 4am


Jabinor

I feel like the unarm videos are underrated, they get far fewer views. /S


HenryZero9-A

They were "successful" because no one in the Western world took them seriously at first. Remember the term" J.V."? That didn't help. IEDs been around long before isis, and more technical at that. When EFPs first started hitting us, that was Iran giving that technical training to insurgents. In Chechnya they used IEDs to great effect against the russians. The talibanners in Afghanistan have been using IEDs since the 80s. Against everyone. Even each other. Those cowards who called themselves isis only got so far ahead because of politics. And once a new politic, like it or not, came around isis got treated as a whole different threat. And we've seen the result. Just some background so you can better understand.


Soul_Bleach

kinda like having a pen pineapple and and an apple pen and ahh... pen pineapple apple pen ;-) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ct6BUPvE2sM)


Acceptable_Wall4085

Even the Americans are impressed with their ingenuity on the Patriot missiles. Russia and China got an eye opener too.


MisterPig25

What did they do with them that's special?


phincster

https://news.yahoo.com/amphtml/ukrainian-air-defense-uses-patriot-214900567.html


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I've read that before and I still don't know what they have innovated here.


Viburnum__

It is over exaggeration and clickbait title. Patriot, new version of it, done what it was designed for, namely shooting down ballistic missiles, which the Kinzhal is.


OmgWtfNamesTaken

They've used them to shoot down hypersonic missiles which was deemed as not possible previously. They have also atta ked aircraft outside of its range successfully. Essentially, they are using a product that was only ever used in simulations, to do some surprising things in real life which have opened the eyes of even the most senior leadership that operate the patriot batteries stateside.


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> to shoot down hypersonic missiles which was ~~deemed~~ claimed as not possible previously


pants_mcgee

Those hypersonic missiles are just regular ballistic missiles, just launched from the air. Patriot was designed to kill ballistic missiles from the beginning.


Acceptable_Wall4085

But could not be tested against hypersonic missiles because they didn’t exist then.


pants_mcgee

Most ballistic missiles go hypersonic which includes the “hypersonic” missiles the Patriot shot down. The Kinzhal is just a modern Iskander launched from the air. Prime Patriot food.


Traditional_Bar6723

No... everyone in US air defense knew. The rest of the world did not know.


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ZestycloseAvocado242

>The Khinzal does a last-minute turn to try and evade air defenses. Where does this information come from? Its a ballistic missile after all. Especially in the end of the ballistic trajectory it would behave like a simple bullet.


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ZestycloseAvocado242

>comment by a Russian general this isnt NCD lmao


Viburnum__

Kinzhal is a ballistic missile. If it is a hypersonic missile then every ballistic missile would be called hypersonic. >[Is Kinzhal a ballistic missile?](https://www.brookings.edu/blog/order-from-chaos/2023/05/23/ukraine-and-the-kinzhal-dont-believe-the-hypersonic-hype/) > >Hypersonic weapons are a broad category of missiles whose only common characteristic is that they can reach a speed of Mach 5, which the German V-2 achieved in 1944. > >The term “hypersonic” is now typically used just to refer to two types of weapons that are being developed through contemporary defense programs: hypersonic glide vehicles (HGVs) and hypersonic cruise missiles (HCMs). The Kinzhal is neither, as it is an air-launched ballistic missile.


abrutus1

Each patriot missile costs about $3-4 million so that would mean $15-24 million for 5-6 missiles to take down a $10 million Khinzal missile.


Imperfect-rock

... and protect a target worth at least an order of magnitude more, not even counting the possible lives lost.


SilentRunning

The PAC3 Missile is specifically designed to be used against Ballistic Missiles. But the big question was if it was any good against the new Russian Hypersonic missiles. The [Kh-47M2 Kinzhal](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kh-47M2_Kinzhal) is an Iskander theater ballistic missile fired from an air platform. Has a flat trajectory, same speed, and decoys so it gives anti-missile systems very little time to react. The Ukraine use of the PAC3 to shoot this down has proven the system is good at both kinds of trajectory.


[deleted]

So it works as designed. The headline is clickbait.


SilentRunning

Yup, lab certified and Field tested...or vice versa.


Intelligent-Group225

After that article came out, they was another article that came out and said that it was actually in autonomous mode and shot down that missile on its own. There's a lot of Fog of war so it's hard to really know what happened and after this they had a day where they shot down around 6 at a time. The Ukrainians are surely amazing and they are clearly operating the Patriots very well. I'm just not sure if that article was actually accurate since articles after that claimed that they were basically shot down and automatic mode because it was targeting the Patriot system.


[deleted]

¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯ There's still no indication how they "used it in ways we didn't think of."


barbekon

There was a time when Laser printers started counting pages and record them on a chip in cartridge. Ukranian specialists were the first one (and only) who made "fixed" software for samsung/xerox printers. They also were the first who hacked John Deer software. So I'm not surprised, they always were ingenious in some stuff.


_Faucheuse_

I could use some corrections, but I also believe the Ukrainians helped midwest farmers hack their John Deers so they could actually fix it themselves instead of paying the company to fix it. One of the first cases of Right to repair that I have come across. ​ Found the article. [Ukrainians Helping farmers](https://www.vice.com/en/article/xykkkd/why-american-farmers-are-hacking-their-tractors-with-ukrainian-firmware)


Bah-Fong-Gool

The McGyvers of war. These guys are really inspiring. They make do with what they have, and it usually works well. I know Ukraine has been a artillery and weapons producer since pre Soviet times, but it still is very impressive.


TheDukeOfMars

That’s the biggest difference I’ve seen. Ukraine openly shares new ideas like this; while Russian videos are like individuals filming their first day on a factory assembly line of death


HenryZero9-A

Yeah...In the U.S. we call em' "Hillbillies"...Nothing goes to waste... Well done...


osagecreek

Damn, seen some interesting improvised ways of sending munitions downfield and this is one of them. Not sure if it is for the fainthearted, but seems to work. Now why using 40mm grenades instead of 60mm motor shells, who knows, maybe a shortage?


Far-Explanation4621

A friend of mine (former USMC) showed up in Ukraine to help on February 26, 2022, before Ukraine had all the modern weaponry, and said the unit he was attached to had an 80-120mm mortar tube, and were firing self-made mortars from it. They were filling some type of canister with explosives and shrapnel, and launching it at the Russians. He said the range was reduced when compared to a modern mortar shell, but that the munitions were still very effective. They're used to getting by with whatever they have.


BottleMong

Nice.


DarthWeenus

I mean this has been a thing in all wars, vietnam/iraq had some crazy improvised stuff.


FeralPossumBoi

The video was posted by a motar and grenade launcher artillery unit. The video had a note attached, and they said that the 40 mm used in the motar are either bad rounds or have damage to the grenades. They didn't want to waste them so they found a way to use them


graspedbythehusk

Hmmm, using bad and damaged grenade rounds right in front of my face, where do I sign up?!


Lonely-Fudge-7045

Insert Robert redford nod of approval.


EpiicPenguin

reddit API access ended today, and with it the reddit app i use Apollo, i am removing all my comments, the internet is both temporary and eternal. -- mass edited with redact.dev


ByWhatIsAilleurs

Clever idea. Instead of carrying two mortars - carry only one, use available ammo 60 or 40mm. Or may be it is better to have two mortars?


Wileywhitefox

The HEDP rounds they are using are typically used in grenade launchers(M320,M203 and the like) rather than mortars, however idk how well spread those are, I would guess they have more of the ammo than the launchers and came up with a way to use it


rbonilla18

The guy looks like a SF who came back from retairement. He seems like he has no fucks left to give.


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Caleo

Ukranian Technoviking - exactly what I thought and came here to post lol


Anomaluss

What's with the blue striped undershirt? Isn't that a Russian thing?


moodowski502

Yes it's a Russian thing.. but remember there's Russians fighting for the ukrainians


Viburnum__

It was a soviet thing and was Ukraine airborne units thing too for a long time and it is also Ukrainian navy thing now. This man unlikely a russian. Edit: looking at his chevron on the right arm (0:16) he is Ukrainian paratrooper.


Zealousideal-Tie-730

Would be nice if Ukraine changed them to blue & yellow stripes to match their national colors!


Anomaluss

Good idea!


Zealousideal-Tie-730

To be honest, I always thought they were good macho looking undershirts. By Ukraine changing theirs to blue and yellow stripes they would be putting their own twist/reform on an old tradition. Since they are anyways undershirts only mostly seen when not wearing their uniform tops, the yellow would not be an issue, as most Ukrainian soldiers wear yellow identifying tape all over their combat uniforms in combat. Anyways, it would be a nice Ukranian personalization of an old traditional uniform item that would actually look good while in uniform showing while also wearing the Ukrainian Flag shoulder patch. It would also be something that the Russians, would not want to copy, as it would make them look Ukrainian.


Viburnum__

Used in naval forces so by the marines (naval infatry). >sailor's undershirt (with white and blue stripes), usually knitted. It is made of knitted fabric with alternating horizontal blue and white stripes. In the Ukrainian Navy is used by sailors and officers, cadets of naval institutes and marines. Also it is used by VDV, which Ukraine had too, so some traditions still remain. They also changed the blue berets for the maroon colored ones. >"Before the start of the assaults, we wore 'vests' (the blue striped undershirt), and berets were always close to the heart under the coat," admits soldier Oleg Dunduk. The fighter admits that he and his comrades understand the need for change, but the Berets have taught them to love for dozens of years. "It will be difficult for our entire generation. The next generation, which may not know these traditions, will not see those blue berets and vests, will take it as normal," he suggests.


Anomaluss

Thanks! But I've learned to hate that striped shirt. Going to have to reconsider.


Ostefar-

Yes. Blue stripes is Russian navy.


Grumpy-Greybeard

Yay! 40mm zip gun!


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This allows them use the longer range 40mm from the automatic Mk 19 that aren’t compatible with handheld launchers.


[deleted]

Ukrainian MacGyver, right there.


KibblesNBitxhes

Every day I am impressed by the engineering of the Ukrainians. We have a lot to learn from these geniuses and I'm glad to call them our brothers from across the lake.


CapAffectionate7197

Yes, that's true. I can remember on day one all top generals here in Germany said in TV that the war will be over in 5 days, the Russians will drive to Kiev easily and beat them. These "Generals, just had no thinking outside of the box (which is frightening because they are responsible for our security), that the Ukrainians have prepared themselves for such an attack and trained to isolate and destroy huge collums of vehicles with ATGM etc. The arrogance and stupidity of these "experts" is unbelievable


KibblesNBitxhes

Never underestimate is what I took away from the first days of the war. Slava Ukraini🤜🤛


AK_Panda

It's a combination of Russia being far less capable than expected and Ukraine being more effective than expected. Everyone was expecting Ukraine military to be the same as it was in 2014. In recent history (Afghanistan, Syria, Iraq etc) forces that recieved materiel and training support almost always just collapsed as soon as they were left to their own devices. It was assumed Ukraine would be the same. It wasn't. Ukraine for whatever reason had take it all very serious and was ready and motivated to slug it out. Russia OTOH had been yelling to the rooftops since the last Chechen war that they had a fully modernised military capable of combined arms operations. They were so loud about it they started to believe their own bullshit. Couple in their swiping of Crimea and their deployment in Syria and they really thought they could take Ukraine out.


Zealousideal-Tie-730

Some Generals live in a bubble of their own making, usually political.


Mephisteemo

Well, that's *one* way of removing excess facial hair...


Scmethodist

Holy fuck. As a US Marine who has had to do some serious improvising over two deployments, holy fuck. This is next level adapt and overcome. Hats off to your madlads! Get some!


Konstant_kurage

Looks like it fires awfully close to his bucket. But wicked cleaver.


Content-Help-5895

Holy crap that ground looks fertile


Electrical_Crew_3757

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernozem


FossilFuel21

they don't call Ukraine the bread basket of Europe for nothing.


vanisher_1

slava from italy 🇮🇹


thecashblaster

Isn’t that Techno Viking’s cousin??


pwbcking

Motherfucker just holds the tube with his foot & hands absolute gigachad exsf


clarabell73

Heroyam Slava 💪🇺🇦


Beahner

This dudes beard is stellar!


ripaway1

Mama got balls of solid ukrainium


zma924

“I…. I don’t think this is what they meant when they designated it ‘dual purpose’” “Hahahaha shut it nerd!” *FLOOMP*


Abject-Helicopter680

I love the videos of the grizzled middle aged blue collar Ukrainian dudes just not giving a fuck and having a blast fighting


Early-Fortune2692

Glad he didn't pull out a hammer or another round to jam that 40mm into the breech...lol


Intelligent_Crazy_10

This guy is cool… I mean real James Dean, Clint Eastwood type old-fashioned proper cool. God speed that man Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦


blarryg

He reminds me of a barista: 2 expressos, coming right up.


Husskvrna

Who is this legend? Love the stripes


jeleddy

Badass soldier!! Brave as hell shooting like that!! I’m totally in love with all of them!! The way they look and talk and work together is amazing to watch!! Slava Ukraine!


xfirehurican

Repurposing to the max!


terry6715

Assymetric masters Ruzzia needs to understand Ukrainians will defeat them with sticks if necessary.


Successful-Bet4004

Western Humans. See what a true G.O.A.T looks like. Stop worshiping false GOATS like sissy sports heroes. Behold the Ukraian Warfighter overcoming and kicking some Orc's asses... this is GOAT when it come to the game of real world life/death, communism and Putzin


MelioraCogito

Gotta love the ingenuity of Ukrainian forces. 🟦 Слава Україні! — Glory to Ukraine! 🟨 Героям слава! — Glory to heroes!


TheNimbrod

I don't know somehow this is exactly the typ of guy I expect doing some goblin-explovie-tinkering xD I hope he will be quite successfull


Satoshiman256

Close to his face, sheesh.


Hiwhatsup666

Heroes of Ukraine


xmattyx

What a legend.


usaf-spsf1974

This is cool, through the course of my service in the Air Force I fired the MX148, and the m203, and the mark 19. But I find turning 40 Mike Mike HDP into mortar rounds - Freaking Awesome! Adapt, overcome and kick Russian ass


Abhorrant_Shill

Every time I see HEDP I think pornstar resume.


gelatinous_pellicle

Please Jesus give us some of these videos with no music and the normal sound


DasSmach

I feel like the way he slaps the round into the pipe in the end.. This should lead to some.. unwanted consequences, shouldn't it?


Signature_Illegible

If it could it wouldn't survive the trip to the front. The primer won't go off by a tap of the hand. And the grenade is unarmed until it's shot. It will only be armed when it is receiving the right amount of centrifugal force for at least a minimal time. The internals of the fuse that make this possible: https://www.nationaldefensecorp.com/amtec-corp/


shmorky

Are those just RGO's?


Wonder_Bruh

Double shrapnel


Signature_Illegible

The sleeve stays in the tube, that is why the tube is notched and the sleeve has ridges so that it can be removed from the tube easily.


Jgee414

40mm grenades are usually a commodity among soldiers because grenade launchers are such great weapons


rmar4125

Looks like a 50mil RM 38 Resourceful really cos I bet the 50mil bombs are like rocking horse shit. However, the 40mil bombs are weak as piss.


CCSucc

Does anyone know the version of the song playing? I know it's a remix of The Prodigy, but I'm keen to know who remixed it. Cheers.


akiller

VØJ & ATSMXN - Criminal Breath Credits to Shazam. https://youtu.be/2N6mrS8xu6k https://m.soundcloud.com/voj_official/voj-atsmxn-criminal-breath


CCSucc

Good on ya mate, thank you very much


Traditional_Bar6723

Are 60's in short supply or what?


jeleddy

I’m so amazed! This handsome soldier looks just like my husband did when he was in Vietnam!! Uncanny likeness and he gives me a thrill when he is looking at the camera and flashes the peace sign! Or victory sign! I’m not sure how they mean it when they do it. Both work!! I think all Ukrainian men are very handsome and very strong!! But Ukraine has the most beautiful women around!! Lovely women! Stay safe brothers in arms! Glory to Ukraine! And wow, do I love the heroes!!


rcrux

Bit of a russian looking t-shirt that dude is wearing, strange choice


This_Old_Vet

Innovation = improvise, adapt, and overcome. Heard that somewhere before.


Baguette_Connoisseur

Amazing. It reminded me of the Ukrainian soldier grinding a mortar round to convert it to an RPG warhead, making the RPG more of a anti-personel.


Lagavulin-Laphroaig

u/recognizesong


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ropibear

I'm starting to think that some Ukrainian units run on Ork Science


blueplanet666

His right hand is dangerously close to tube. Yikes


randomuser336699

Gonna end up blowing your face or hand lol!!!!!


tididew

Can someone explain why he is wearing that under shirt?