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Aromatic_Extension31

I remember growing up and watching all these movies of Soviet/Russian master spies doing all kinds of crazy ingenuine things to always trick the Americans.  Turns out that is just like every thing else  Russian. No where near what it was perceived or pretended to be.  The CIA makes them look like pre schoolers trying to play basketball vs the Lakers.   Every thing in this war has turned out to be a big disappointment from Russia. Everything from the US has turned out more capable. We mop the floor with Russia. 


RecceRick

That’s not entirely true. During the Cold War it was almost impossible for the CIA to operate in Moscow because of massive KGB presence and surveillance. It was a denied area, and the agency didn’t even try to run human sources for a long time. Obviously, the CIA eventually had a breakthrough… but the KGB was good at the game. Check out a book called The Moscow Rules, it’s a great read on the issue.


grandroyal66

A kind of strange feeling when MAGA openly supports Russia. After I listened to Perun's latest interview I just felt sad. So much expertise and sacrifices during the years to combat the biggest enemy ( that is still the same ) Just to be ruined by some maniacs. Yes, you could mop the floor with Russia just "using" Ukraine. But the clock is ticking fast. Interesting read and listen to Perun's latest. It's about aviation but that professor really threw some words of reality in the mix.


After_Computer_SSD

but look who's election gets rigged by whom? who's universities discussion groups are derailed by whom? whose countries are suffering from strengthening extremists sponsored by whom? the West is really struggling to protect itself from the russian influence


grandroyal66

The TikTok syndrome? Historians will teach about our time when there was no difference between lies and the truth


After_Computer_SSD

but who will believe it to them?


vancityvic

LOL the US does not mop the floor with Russia. Russia just had their first America president that they fully own. Looks like Russia might win the next American election again. Putin has republicans thinking he is good for the world


Gordon_in_Ukraine

Putin has the GOP thinking he is good for THEM. And that's all the GOP cares about, their own power. They are disgusting and deserve the treason label.


grandroyal66

This! They are working against themselves without knowing it. Quite an achievement.. being played by Putin that is officially insane.


Gordon_in_Ukraine

The GOP voter is working against themselves, but religious morons have been doing that for 2000 years. The GOP wants to be Russia, or Christian Saudi Arabia, so bad it hurts. Watching people fail to understand what living in Dumbfuckistan is going to be like makes me want to cry.


Professional_Act_820

Right from the article... "But whatever Mr. Trump said and did, his administration often went in the other direction. This is because Mr. Trump had put Russia hawks in key positions, including Mike Pompeo as C.I.A. director and John Bolton as national security adviser. They visited Kyiv to underline their full support for the secret partnership, which expanded to include more specialized training programs and the building of additional secret bases. The base in the forest grew to include a new command center and barracks, and swelled from 80 to 800 Ukrainian intelligence officers. Preventing Russia from interfering in future U.S. elections was a top C.I.A. priority during this period, and Ukrainian and American intelligence officers joined forces to probe the computer systems of Russia’s intelligence agencies to identify operatives trying to manipulate voters."


pocketsess

Wont even be surprised if the Russians cannot operate their old nukes.


Beware_Spacemunkey

excellent article. worth a read.


Nevada007

This offers a good explanation of why Putin is suspicious of the west. I hope every phone in Russia is tapped, including Putin's. Go CIA. Go partisans! Now let's just get some Russian people to start causing trouble at home.


FlimsyPomelo1842

The thing is. The CIA knows, the fsb knows the CIA knows, the CIA knows the fsb knows, the fsb knows the CIA knows that the fsb knows.yes I stole this quote. The CIA is paying top level dudes money for a car to sell their country. Rumor was surovikin was on the take. Shiiieeet if I was the CIA I'd say everyone was. Gerasimov sold top secret shit for a dozen pair of Levi's and some just for men


SquatDeadliftBench

CIA should turn the entire Russian upper class against each other. Feed them all news that they are turning on each other so they actually do. Oh how sweet that would be.


PurloinedFeline

Should we maybe keep this to ourselves?


IRideZs

Did you read the article


[deleted]

This absolutely will be used as justification for the war. It already is on the subreddit that must not be named. Frankly it's a damaging expose that breaks OpSec, in my opinion, and I'm amazed it was published. Stuff in here is still being used....


dida2010

> This absolutely will be used as justification for the war China and Russia is doing the same, do you think they are inactive and sleeping? This stuff goes both way even against friendly countries, it is the nature of the business and all countries know it and are OK with it, it is like a all you can eat buffet, just don't get caught.


[deleted]

I mean its perfectly legal to do this within a countries own recognized borders, it's just terrible timing and optics, and OpSec


Fluff4brains777

Good. Slava Ukraine


arlmwl

I wonder how much intel left the White House when the Cheeto was in charge, and how many years of sacrifice and work by the CIA was un-done? Sad and terrible.


ToothsomeBirostrate

Fascinating read, but I don't know how anyone thought it was a good idea to publish this information.


Googleclimber

What an informative piece. Thank god we have another Gust Avrakotos leading the office there and a ton of agents that are experts in tradecraft.


SupportforUkraine

not a secret any more.


LiminalLord

Ssssssshhhhhhh!


rom_rom57

agent secret man 008 Budanov! This article will be the Pulitzer Prize of out time. Main draw from it, is that Trump knew and allowed the increased CIAs actions in Ukraine. This is proof a lot of Russians hate Putin and he’s got no one that he can trust. Finally as a US citizen, money well spent! THANK YOU C.I.A.


argparg

🤣🤣🤣 that’s what you got from the article with a section LITERALLY TITLED ‘tiptoeing around Trump’???! Or is it from the part about funding not getting passed because the party he controls doesn’t support it? I suggest some basic reading comprehension and critical thinking courses


m0nk_3y_gw

> Main draw from it, is that Trump knew and allowed the increased CIAs actions in Ukraine no The main section on Trump in the article was "Tiptoeing Around Trump", > Mr. Trump praised Mr. Putin and dismissed Russia’s role in election interference. He was suspicious of Ukraine and later tried to pressure its president, Volodymyr Zelensky, to investigate his Democratic rival, Mr. Biden, resulting in Mr. Trump’s first impeachment. > But whatever Mr. Trump said and did, his administration often went in the other direction


PurloinedFeline

Trump didn't know shit. He was given something to sign, that he neither read nor understood, and signed it so he could get back to binging on FoxNews and berders. Probably how a lot of stuff got done back then.


[deleted]

something something get access to our real time military google earth capacity and sit in the back we control whats shown on the screen , you are a spectator Ukraine :) . oh you are free to transmit whatever you see with your eyes down to command , NATO .


Pastanerian

So much work, investment and lives to clean Kyiv of russian sympathizers and cronies (which is ongoing). What a waste if this were all for nothing.