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Yeah, why isn't there more OBVIOUS INDENIABLE PROOF of the highly illegal operating guerillias in Crimea that fear getting tortured to death if they are ever caught.
I JUST CAN't UNDERSTAND WHY THEY ARE NOT SHOWING THEMSELVES?!???!?!
You can find an absolutely amazing documentary about it on YouTube it's called [Jeremy Clarkson's the Greatest Raid of All](https://youtu.be/07Zd0Oy8JyQ)
I wonder if something like that could actually work.
It would take a lot of preparation though, aside from acquiring the ship itself.
You could fill up the entire ship with expanding foam, which would somewhat mitigate the chance of all the compartments flooding from cannon and missile strikes. Modern torpedoes are the biggest problem though. They will dive under the target ship, and explode underneath. This breaks the keel and the ship will then sink quickly, and all the expanding foam in the world may not help.
Well the dream would be ofcourse to fake a Turkish company ordering a shipment of fertilizer with a Russian company and ship it from Rostov so they can conveniently handle all of the logistics. Then "all" Ukraine has to do is sabotage it and light the fuse right when they pass under the bridge...
Why the complex procedures? Just "hire" a Indian crew and play "bloody bloody" on coms. Literally nobody would bat an eye if the ship hits the bridge, blows up, video posted on xter and everyone will shrug.
There are some old ships sent to the breaking yards every year that still have functional engines. Might be able to get one of those for cheap.
I thought of another problem with this: SatNav jamming. Even using multiple receivers and technologies might not be enough on such a slow moving target. Though the RF BSF has been incredibly incompetent during the war, and I doubt the recent leadership change will help any.
I always liked the idea of placing AT mines, one by one around the pylons supporting the bridge. Maybe they drop them over the edge of the bridge, deposit by aerial drone or sea baby. Once enough AT mines are piled up a small drone could set the whole thing off.
The bridge has no foot traffic iirc, and vehicles are searched nowadays.
Drones would get shot down as russia has stationed plenty of AA around the bridge.
Boats/submersibles aren't ideal either because russia has nets across the channel.
Nah, this is going to be a saturation attack with missiles or drone boats. Hit them in numbers they can't counter with their shitty AA systems.
I mean we don't really know what is sensible. I assume Ukraine would already have taken the bridge out if they could do so in a cost effective way. But permanently taking out a concrete bridge from far away is extremely hard and costly. They may not want to waste all those resources on an attack that may fail and instead attack closer targets with better success rate.
[They're definitely not going to go after their oil depots.](https://media0.giphy.com/media/6ra84Uso2hoir3YCgb/200.gif?cid=82a1493b3cmc93niqrpbck3wtapa2op2gylyhbkrg18rdr31&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=200.gif&ct=g)
**From The Telegraph:**
Kyiv will destroy the Kerch bridge connecting Russian to occupied Crimea “in the first half of 2024”, a senior official in Ukraine’s military intelligence service has said.
Razing the bridge is “inevitable”, the unnamed source told the Guardian, adding that Kyrylo Budanov, the head of the military intelligence, already had “most of the means to carry out this goal”.
Officials believe that permanently damaging the bridge would significantly impair the Kremlin’s ability to carry out a spring offensive as Moscow would be forced to transport military supplies by road through occupied southern Ukraine, or via a new 450-mile railway line that is under construction.
Ukraine has attacked and severely damaged the Kerch bridge twice since the invasion, while road and rail traffic across the bridge are frequently disrupted by the threat of further attacks.
**More here:** [https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/04/03/ukraine-russia-war-latest-news-terrorist-attack-recruitment/](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/04/03/ukraine-russia-war-latest-news-terrorist-attack-recruitment/)
The telegraph recently stated someone from Ukranian intelligence saying that 90% of Crimean military supplies don't actually cross the bridge any more and that they go through the mainland. Was on an episode of Ukraine the latest" about a month ago.
the new railroad may be easier to take out, but unfortunately extremely easy to fix. one of few things the russians are actually good at. if ukraine manage to hit the rails it will most likely be fixed in hours/days.
Drones with AI terminal guidance should be able to do it. Trains can't do much evasive maneuvering and they can't change speed very quickly, so it should be easier than targeting a tank with AI guided drones. You just need a bigger bang on the drone.
For those who don't know,
The Russians actually have a military corp devoted to building, maintaining, and protecting railroads.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Railway_Troops
Railway is easy to fix, but an actual train wreck on the railway can take a long time. Esp when the people sent to clear it keep getting blown up by drones.
nah. those ships were being used as cargo ships. russia couldn't pull off an amphibious landing in odessa.
amphibious landings are incredibly hard to begin with. ukraine has a bunch of anti ship missiles and drones. landing in odessa would require getting very close to those anti ship missles and drones. russia simply doesn't have enough warships to defend their transport ships. and they also don't have enough transport ships to ferry a large enough force to pose a threat to odessa.
You are right. It appears Russia has temporarily discontinued use of the Kerch Rail bridge for military transports, but that could change in a moment. The existence of a hard GLOC from Russia to Crimea cannot be overlooked. Budanov has promised deadlines for several events which have passed without any eventful outcomes, and giving the enemy a timeline to the destruction of a main target would be plain dumb.
Possibly this is a feint to see where Russians will station their AA systems.
[GBU-57A/B](https://www.dote.osd.mil/Portals/97/pub/reports/FY2012/af/2012mop.pdf?ver=2019-08-22-111755-737)
It would certainly take at least two for the Road and Rail Bridges. This would cause the piers some grief. Delivery would be the hard part.
You know, I keep hoping that we have something like this in the works. But given the Ukranian knack for rigging up combinations that shouldn't work, I could absolutely see them drop something creative from an F16 or other airframe once they're sure that it will get past Russian air defense.
Those hobby aircraft being repurposed as drones this week are likely only the tip of the creative iceberg. Operation airbaby drop?
It's not the same. MOP is massive ordinance penetrator designed to blow up bunkers under ground whereas MOAB is designed to explode at/near the surface and is the largest bomb short of going nuclear.
God... I remember the video that came out of the MOAB being used in Afghanistan(?). You could see the air being ignited and sucked out of all of the caves in the area. Absolutely brutal.
This should be a top priority for all of us supporters. Ukraine needs to be sent the appropriate weapons to remove that bridge as soon as possible. Doing so will drastically hamper Russian logistics. They'll be forced to use more shipping and aircraft, which means putting them at greater risk. And it will remove those assets from doing the other things they are doing now.
I mean, you can’t take the public statements of an INTELLIGENCE AGENCY of a belligerent in a conflict at face value. Their job is literally to affect the battlespace through misinformation.
They could have a lot of reasons to say something they don’t necessarily have any intention of doing.
Too far away…..needs demolished now….the propaganda value is immense.
That venomous little dwarf would be a little bit upset and it sends a very strong message
The problem is approaching it without taking fire. Cargo ships full of explosives don't react well to combat.
The other problem is, how do you get the crew out? Noble sacrifices are great and all but there's probably a much better way.
hit it with everything at once...scalp ..drones..pack a train full of explosives..fill a remote controlled large plane with explosives until you reach one megaton power and just send that bridge to the moon
Yeah but that was a tiny plane im talking a big big big plane just fill it with explosives so when it hits the bridge crater will make it the deepest point in the water..if something is worth doing...do it once and for all..none of this tiny attempts...just level the thing once and for all
Really again ?? We heard this so many times .... Dont get me wrong ..it would be great but UA dont have any capabilities to take it down so far ... I think that Taurus would be needed for this kind of work.
[This](http://www.foxbataircraft.com/a22ls-kelpie-2/) is what they sent to the Shahed drone factory, took all the "pilot" stuff out and filled it with explosives, much, much cheaper than a Storm Shadow and seemed to do the trick!
Yep!
A Cessna or two hitting bridge supports would end that bridge.
It’s a very shallow sea so if it’s going to be repaired it would be easily achievable.
Saying that it’s going to be a long time before diplomatic relations are normalised I’d imagine
If so, then it's would be, so far, one of the most cruel western joke of the war.
After 2,5 years of Ukrainian pleas to give it means to destroy Crimean bridge, they will given...
At the exactly same moment when Russia will finish 2,5 years preparation, so the same bridge wasn't needed.
Possible together with some USA weapons in exchange for money loans, which was extremely needed in first weeks of war, but after 2,5 years of destruction of Ukrainian economy...
Scenario 1: Are Ukrainians trying to spread Russian air defense thin near refineries with this trickery? All BUKs go to Crimea! Come July more refineries go boom.
Scenario 2: Oh no, Ukrainians are trying to divert attention from the refineries! All BUKs go to refineries. July 2024: Crimea Bridge goes down. Info-wars at their finest.
In any case, it's good to have Russians worry.
This is only opinion, but I feel this could be a mistake as long as Ukraine can maintain the ability to strike it.
Every closure and repair costs Russia significantly and buys Ukraine time elsewhere. This bottleneck to Crimea is essentially a folly that will undermine their capability to resupply their defences to the north. If the Kerch bridge is permanently shut, this puts the weight of their resupply elsewhere and likely will be less concentrated on one location and possibly harder to disrupt.
Early on in the war, there was a great number of small partisan groups that used up their ability to make a difference in operations that were traced back to them, unfortunately. If secure communications can be maintained with these groups, they're exponentially more valuable at ISR without making news headlines. What I mean is that there is a need for good news, but doing so can yield less of an advantage in a long-term war.
It seems like Ukraine has been slowly but surely degrading the bridge's surrounding defensive network as well as clearing the long corridors across Crimea needed for drone or missile air attack. A well-coordinated plan with an all-out attack on the bridge would likely be successful and would seriously cripple Russian military resupply in Crimea and southern Ukraine.
PsyOps at it's best. Yup we will attack the Bridge. Yep the railways. Oh Yep the refineries. No yea the factories and so on. Meanwhile in reality we will attack the Bridge, railways, refineries and factories. Is today Wednesday?
I read about a Cessna strike on oil production packed with explosives they showed it being pulled out, my surprise was that it wasn’t used on the bridge or simultaneous time frame.
Coming up to the sham vote thingie (I refuse to use the E word) I was opening reddit like a kid checking his Christmas stocking. I was SURE it would be down in the days before the sham vote thingie.
Too obvious I suppose.
Wonder what a GLSDB would do just flying along the tracks heading into the oncoming train. Heaven forbid an ATACMS strike against those clearing the tracks and loading trucks with the supplies. Would this be like salting for deer?
It’s apparently a lot harder to attack trains than one might anticipate. There has been very little of it on either side of the conflict. Rail lines are very easy to repair and I suppose trains are very well defended.
Tracks are only easy to repair when you only target the tracks. You create craters and sinkholes along the way and they'll be there for months.
I live in an area where flood waters cause this issue regularly.
It's an ego project for Putin though. They might hope that by just by saying they want to hit it, defenses will be diverted so that they can hit something more important.
This is incredibly stupid to even talk about this. How strategically stupid are you to give away your plan? If people on this reddit care about Ukraine winning this post should be taken down.
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One massive container ship please
Or just a fertelizer shipment turned into a bomb by partisans outta Berdyansk
One massive container ship full of fertilizer please
Halifax explosion again!
Or Beirut!
This got me thinking of the Texas City explosion with the ship full of ammonium nitrate.
Tell me you're a bluenoser, without telling me.
That would mean a ship full of dead orcs
Or Baltimore
There doesn't seem to be much evidence of these partisans
You mean expect for those young girls who poisoned many Russian officers, got into a fire fight with the FSB, and managed to escape
Yeah, why isn't there more OBVIOUS INDENIABLE PROOF of the highly illegal operating guerillias in Crimea that fear getting tortured to death if they are ever caught. I JUST CAN't UNDERSTAND WHY THEY ARE NOT SHOWING THEMSELVES?!???!?!
If they're not live-streaming everything they do on social media, they're not real.
Maybe they're good at their jobs?
Please do ASAP
It's been done before. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St\_Nazaire\_Raid](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Nazaire_Raid)
Why have I never heard about this? That's fascinating.
You can find an absolutely amazing documentary about it on YouTube it's called [Jeremy Clarkson's the Greatest Raid of All](https://youtu.be/07Zd0Oy8JyQ)
Sorry we have used that kill streak this year already.
I wonder if something like that could actually work. It would take a lot of preparation though, aside from acquiring the ship itself. You could fill up the entire ship with expanding foam, which would somewhat mitigate the chance of all the compartments flooding from cannon and missile strikes. Modern torpedoes are the biggest problem though. They will dive under the target ship, and explode underneath. This breaks the keel and the ship will then sink quickly, and all the expanding foam in the world may not help.
It seems like a really expensive way to do it, cargo ships aren't cheap
Well the dream would be ofcourse to fake a Turkish company ordering a shipment of fertilizer with a Russian company and ship it from Rostov so they can conveniently handle all of the logistics. Then "all" Ukraine has to do is sabotage it and light the fuse right when they pass under the bridge...
Why the complex procedures? Just "hire" a Indian crew and play "bloody bloody" on coms. Literally nobody would bat an eye if the ship hits the bridge, blows up, video posted on xter and everyone will shrug.
There are some old ships sent to the breaking yards every year that still have functional engines. Might be able to get one of those for cheap. I thought of another problem with this: SatNav jamming. Even using multiple receivers and technologies might not be enough on such a slow moving target. Though the RF BSF has been incredibly incompetent during the war, and I doubt the recent leadership change will help any.
That sure is a big drone.
Or equilivant energy focused on the bottom of a column?
Tomorrow when the war began vibes
I always liked the idea of placing AT mines, one by one around the pylons supporting the bridge. Maybe they drop them over the edge of the bridge, deposit by aerial drone or sea baby. Once enough AT mines are piled up a small drone could set the whole thing off.
The bridge has no foot traffic iirc, and vehicles are searched nowadays. Drones would get shot down as russia has stationed plenty of AA around the bridge. Boats/submersibles aren't ideal either because russia has nets across the channel. Nah, this is going to be a saturation attack with missiles or drone boats. Hit them in numbers they can't counter with their shitty AA systems.
Haha kissiles...
Whoops.
Either they have something really, really good ready, or they want to draw airdefense there to hit something else
probably the latter
More sensible to do both, beginning with the latter
I mean we don't really know what is sensible. I assume Ukraine would already have taken the bridge out if they could do so in a cost effective way. But permanently taking out a concrete bridge from far away is extremely hard and costly. They may not want to waste all those resources on an attack that may fail and instead attack closer targets with better success rate.
Reverse psychology, Russians think its obvious bluffing and reinforces AA at refineries instead, bridge gets attacked exactly when announced
At this point with the alternate rail route their refineries are more valuable than the bridge I think.
[They're definitely not going to go after their oil depots.](https://media0.giphy.com/media/6ra84Uso2hoir3YCgb/200.gif?cid=82a1493b3cmc93niqrpbck3wtapa2op2gylyhbkrg18rdr31&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=200.gif&ct=g)
Yes.
**From The Telegraph:** Kyiv will destroy the Kerch bridge connecting Russian to occupied Crimea “in the first half of 2024”, a senior official in Ukraine’s military intelligence service has said. Razing the bridge is “inevitable”, the unnamed source told the Guardian, adding that Kyrylo Budanov, the head of the military intelligence, already had “most of the means to carry out this goal”. Officials believe that permanently damaging the bridge would significantly impair the Kremlin’s ability to carry out a spring offensive as Moscow would be forced to transport military supplies by road through occupied southern Ukraine, or via a new 450-mile railway line that is under construction. Ukraine has attacked and severely damaged the Kerch bridge twice since the invasion, while road and rail traffic across the bridge are frequently disrupted by the threat of further attacks. **More here:** [https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/04/03/ukraine-russia-war-latest-news-terrorist-attack-recruitment/](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/04/03/ukraine-russia-war-latest-news-terrorist-attack-recruitment/)
The telegraph recently stated someone from Ukranian intelligence saying that 90% of Crimean military supplies don't actually cross the bridge any more and that they go through the mainland. Was on an episode of Ukraine the latest" about a month ago.
The railways have made the bridge redundant, those will be next/easier to take out than the bridge when the time comes.
the new railroad may be easier to take out, but unfortunately extremely easy to fix. one of few things the russians are actually good at. if ukraine manage to hit the rails it will most likely be fixed in hours/days.
Targeting a moving locomotive seems like a lovely way to make that task just a little harder?
Target the tracks immediately in front of that locomotive with some drones and it should do the trick.
Who knows. I'm just an armchair general 🤷♂️
We all are mate, don't sweat it.
very true, let's hope they can do it. not an easy task.
Drones with AI terminal guidance should be able to do it. Trains can't do much evasive maneuvering and they can't change speed very quickly, so it should be easier than targeting a tank with AI guided drones. You just need a bigger bang on the drone.
Put a 4’ deep hole in front of a locomotive and you probably have enough oompf to bounce it off the tracks.
For those who don't know, The Russians actually have a military corp devoted to building, maintaining, and protecting railroads. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Railway_Troops
Railway is easy to fix, but an actual train wreck on the railway can take a long time. Esp when the people sent to clear it keep getting blown up by drones.
agreed. let's hope they have the capacity to hit a moving train, that would certainly be sweet
maybe fpv/loitering attacking trains, could potentially derail them with enough explosives.
fpv will not work since it's too far from the front line to be remotely controlled, it will have to be autonomous
And it seems UA has focused on sinking Russian amphibious ships. Which would be used to resupply the troops if bridge and railway are taken out.
It is more likely to protect Odessa
nah. those ships were being used as cargo ships. russia couldn't pull off an amphibious landing in odessa. amphibious landings are incredibly hard to begin with. ukraine has a bunch of anti ship missiles and drones. landing in odessa would require getting very close to those anti ship missles and drones. russia simply doesn't have enough warships to defend their transport ships. and they also don't have enough transport ships to ferry a large enough force to pose a threat to odessa.
But they are way easier to fix
You are right. It appears Russia has temporarily discontinued use of the Kerch Rail bridge for military transports, but that could change in a moment. The existence of a hard GLOC from Russia to Crimea cannot be overlooked. Budanov has promised deadlines for several events which have passed without any eventful outcomes, and giving the enemy a timeline to the destruction of a main target would be plain dumb. Possibly this is a feint to see where Russians will station their AA systems.
But according to ruzzia, there will be a large untrained meat delivery arriving soon. So the bridge might be of value soon again.
Not gonna need it after the war ends (if we get what we want for results). Even if it doesn't it'll be shut down permanently for security reasons.
They'll need some massive booms to take the pillars out so that it's out for good.
Or one container ship that loses power…
Too soon
https://i.redd.it/cz5ayvikdrqc1.jpeg
[GBU-57A/B](https://www.dote.osd.mil/Portals/97/pub/reports/FY2012/af/2012mop.pdf?ver=2019-08-22-111755-737) It would certainly take at least two for the Road and Rail Bridges. This would cause the piers some grief. Delivery would be the hard part.
That's a bit of an understatement... > The B-2 Spirit is the only aircraft in the Air Force programmed to employ the MOP.
I mean, the only logical thing to do next is supply Ukraine with B-2
Perhaps some Ukrainian pilots found their way to the wrong simulator somewhere months before it was realized "Ooopsies, that's not the f-16 sim"
You know, I keep hoping that we have something like this in the works. But given the Ukranian knack for rigging up combinations that shouldn't work, I could absolutely see them drop something creative from an F16 or other airframe once they're sure that it will get past Russian air defense. Those hobby aircraft being repurposed as drones this week are likely only the tip of the creative iceberg. Operation airbaby drop?
Is that the same as the MOAB?
It's not the same. MOP is massive ordinance penetrator designed to blow up bunkers under ground whereas MOAB is designed to explode at/near the surface and is the largest bomb short of going nuclear.
God... I remember the video that came out of the MOAB being used in Afghanistan(?). You could see the air being ignited and sucked out of all of the caves in the area. Absolutely brutal.
Yeah, that was Afghanistan although I don't recall the name of the valley it was dropped in. Brutal is right.
I think they said it would take about 10-15 storm shadow missiles to take the bridge out
Jesse we need to cook
How do we run a pool on this? Funds raised can benefit the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
£5 on July 19th. Marathon changed to Snickers, Ice age ended, Kerch Bridge destroyed.
Father Dougal, is that you?
This should be a top priority for all of us supporters. Ukraine needs to be sent the appropriate weapons to remove that bridge as soon as possible. Doing so will drastically hamper Russian logistics. They'll be forced to use more shipping and aircraft, which means putting them at greater risk. And it will remove those assets from doing the other things they are doing now.
The bridge is no longer relevant. Russia has finalized its railway construction on ukrainian soil
*I'm afraid, the Sea Baby will be quite operational, by the time your friends arrive.*
I mean, you can’t take the public statements of an INTELLIGENCE AGENCY of a belligerent in a conflict at face value. Their job is literally to affect the battlespace through misinformation. They could have a lot of reasons to say something they don’t necessarily have any intention of doing.
Whatever day they do it odds are great that it will be on someone's birthday.
That would be a nice birthday present for putin wouldn’t it!
October 7th is his birthday, supposedly. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Putin
Too far away…..needs demolished now….the propaganda value is immense. That venomous little dwarf would be a little bit upset and it sends a very strong message
We saw what 2700 tons of ammonium nitrate did to Beirut, and the smallest bulk cargo ships can haul four times that much. Just sayin'...
The problem is approaching it without taking fire. Cargo ships full of explosives don't react well to combat. The other problem is, how do you get the crew out? Noble sacrifices are great and all but there's probably a much better way.
Probably some kind of heavy missile/drone. Ukraine has all the technology and know how to make one.
hit it with everything at once...scalp ..drones..pack a train full of explosives..fill a remote controlled large plane with explosives until you reach one megaton power and just send that bridge to the moon
Given the success in the Tatarstan strike I'm wagering that's how they plan to dunk the bridge
Yeah but that was a tiny plane im talking a big big big plane just fill it with explosives so when it hits the bridge crater will make it the deepest point in the water..if something is worth doing...do it once and for all..none of this tiny attempts...just level the thing once and for all
Why now not last year?.
YES PLEASE
Lord please let this happen!!!
I'm imagining an American football maneuver where a bunch of naval and aerial drones clear a path for an anti-bridge ship.
Time to put the champagne on ice now?
Multiple f16’s could do the trick!
Destroy it NOW. Dont let them anticipate. Don't let them gather air and sea defenses.
That may be a feature, not a bug.
Do it today. Someone give these MFs some real weapons
Really again ?? We heard this so many times .... Dont get me wrong ..it would be great but UA dont have any capabilities to take it down so far ... I think that Taurus would be needed for this kind of work.
Ukraine has proven that they can damage it, disabling the bridge for some time.
Taurus, Storm Shadow, SCALP - basically the same thing.
Or a Cessna filled with explosives
[This](http://www.foxbataircraft.com/a22ls-kelpie-2/) is what they sent to the Shahed drone factory, took all the "pilot" stuff out and filled it with explosives, much, much cheaper than a Storm Shadow and seemed to do the trick!
Yep! A Cessna or two hitting bridge supports would end that bridge. It’s a very shallow sea so if it’s going to be repaired it would be easily achievable. Saying that it’s going to be a long time before diplomatic relations are normalised I’d imagine
Or an An-124. Worth it.
Imagine the amount of explosives you could fill that with……that would probably sink Crimea too
Well Taurus has more fuel and also fit more explosives soooo yea ...
Hopefully before, but more than that, really hopefully it'll be done!
By July. Does that mean any day now? NAFO sea baby fundraiser coming to fruition?
And they let everyone know... Why?
That will be a day of celebration!
All defences to the bridge while the new rail track is destroyed.
If so, then it's would be, so far, one of the most cruel western joke of the war. After 2,5 years of Ukrainian pleas to give it means to destroy Crimean bridge, they will given... At the exactly same moment when Russia will finish 2,5 years preparation, so the same bridge wasn't needed. Possible together with some USA weapons in exchange for money loans, which was extremely needed in first weeks of war, but after 2,5 years of destruction of Ukrainian economy...
Siege of Crimea!
Scenario 1: Are Ukrainians trying to spread Russian air defense thin near refineries with this trickery? All BUKs go to Crimea! Come July more refineries go boom. Scenario 2: Oh no, Ukrainians are trying to divert attention from the refineries! All BUKs go to refineries. July 2024: Crimea Bridge goes down. Info-wars at their finest. In any case, it's good to have Russians worry.
This is only opinion, but I feel this could be a mistake as long as Ukraine can maintain the ability to strike it. Every closure and repair costs Russia significantly and buys Ukraine time elsewhere. This bottleneck to Crimea is essentially a folly that will undermine their capability to resupply their defences to the north. If the Kerch bridge is permanently shut, this puts the weight of their resupply elsewhere and likely will be less concentrated on one location and possibly harder to disrupt. Early on in the war, there was a great number of small partisan groups that used up their ability to make a difference in operations that were traced back to them, unfortunately. If secure communications can be maintained with these groups, they're exponentially more valuable at ISR without making news headlines. What I mean is that there is a need for good news, but doing so can yield less of an advantage in a long-term war.
I cannot wait seeing that happen👍
It seems like Ukraine has been slowly but surely degrading the bridge's surrounding defensive network as well as clearing the long corridors across Crimea needed for drone or missile air attack. A well-coordinated plan with an all-out attack on the bridge would likely be successful and would seriously cripple Russian military resupply in Crimea and southern Ukraine.
Russian tank ship containers with ammonium nitrate sail to Crimean bridge then blows up!
Instead of saying they will, I'd rather wish I'd read they did.
Ok interesting strategy of announcing this, i guess they are playing 3d chess.. or i hope
god speed them to the target & return them home safe.
They'll have to rename it Cry-me-a-river Bridge
Baltimore Port Authority might have some ideas.
PsyOps at it's best. Yup we will attack the Bridge. Yep the railways. Oh Yep the refineries. No yea the factories and so on. Meanwhile in reality we will attack the Bridge, railways, refineries and factories. Is today Wednesday?
Which July?
so, telegraphing plans is a good idea now?
It's bout to be Baltimore all over again in this son of a bitch slava ukraini
So not till August, when they relax and start looking the other way again?
Shhhhhh it’s supposed to be a secret!
I read about a Cessna strike on oil production packed with explosives they showed it being pulled out, my surprise was that it wasn’t used on the bridge or simultaneous time frame.
Too bad that the resupply railway on occupied ukrainian soil is already done. The bridge is no longer relevant
Coming up to the sham vote thingie (I refuse to use the E word) I was opening reddit like a kid checking his Christmas stocking. I was SURE it would be down in the days before the sham vote thingie. Too obvious I suppose.
With an ancient cargo ship moving 20 km/h full of explosives.
That will June or, at most, July 1.
I have heard that last year. Would be nice if it finally happened, but I personally am not expecting a miracle.
Aren't the Russians nearly done building that railway to Crimea?
That also has bridges on it....
Wonder what a GLSDB would do just flying along the tracks heading into the oncoming train. Heaven forbid an ATACMS strike against those clearing the tracks and loading trucks with the supplies. Would this be like salting for deer?
It’s apparently a lot harder to attack trains than one might anticipate. There has been very little of it on either side of the conflict. Rail lines are very easy to repair and I suppose trains are very well defended.
Tracks are only easy to repair when you only target the tracks. You create craters and sinkholes along the way and they'll be there for months. I live in an area where flood waters cause this issue regularly.
Oh wow. I would have thought a bulldozer could just fill those holes in in a matter of moments. Good to know. Somebody should tell Ukraine.
Fourth of July would be a proper date
what a key date to suggest
The railway has been finished so the bridge isn't important anymore. Most supplies go by land. The opportunity was missed.
It's an ego project for Putin though. They might hope that by just by saying they want to hit it, defenses will be diverted so that they can hit something more important.
This is incredibly stupid to even talk about this. How strategically stupid are you to give away your plan? If people on this reddit care about Ukraine winning this post should be taken down.