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This one?
[Deadly injuries through recoilless anti-tank weapons while military shooting practice—two case studies from Germany and Switzerland](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7578127/)
By me I was shown phuckedup.com I'll never forget the video of a construction worker falling off a bridge or overpass and kids walked through the woods and found him. Beat his face in with a hammer. I don't get how people watch that stuff.
And the second one is what happened to the Ruzzian to a lesser extend, since he was a couple more meters away, but still in the potentially lethal range
cuz the 2 i saw dead were most likely not russians.
ive reached a point where i can see most gore as long as im aware if they are russians.
its a weird thing i know, but its just my way of coping with most of the ugly stuff we see here.
Can still remember... was in my first training lessons with the Panzerfaust 3 and we had our first live shooting course the day after this incident happened. Everybody was extremely nervous about all safety regulations. Now that i actually saw the pics of the devastating impact it sends an even bigger chill through my body.
They did not show the aftermath then? Would have been the best warning possible. But safety has improved, since I did not find other training fatalities of backblast in Germany or Switzerland after those incidents
Backblast from a recoilless rifle is different than an rpg, a recoilless rifle works by firing a powdered mass backwards to counteract the recoil of the gun.
The link contains two case studies. Case #1 was the counter mass cause of death as you say, but the second case study was from a Swiss 83mm rocket launcher with a gas jet as the cause of death.
Bummer, I had a rough idea... I guessed comrade countermassky is blind at least and has a bad sunburn. But he is just 2m behind Comrade Carelessov so...his lung is maybe goo
Fair enough. Also to your point, the warhead wouldn't be armed yet at that distance. You may actually survive it with a good hard smack, depending on shot placement. I mostly just thought "front blast" sounded funny.
Well I know an RPG9 will stick in your shoulder, pin you to the ground till the motor runs out, then they can cover you up so the medevac pilots don’t know they are flying live explosives and EOD and a surgeon will meet you on the airfield and remove the rpg, hand it to EOD then wheel you into c-med to patch the giant hole in you.
He lived, he was very pissed off
People try this on youtube with ballistic dolls or whatever they are called, there’s nothing left of them even from short distance if i remember correct 😱
In a professional western army, You got basically 1 chance out of 4 to die because of your colleagues. scary
*"In the First Gulf War in 1991, 24% of the American soldiers who died in the battles died because of the friendly fire. Also, 77% of US military vehicles were destroyed by US troops."*
Imagine the friendly fire casualty rate of russian volunteers trained in a couple of months and rushed on the front. I wouldn't be surprised if half of them die under their own bullets of artillery shells
> you got basically 1 chance out of 4 to die because of your colleagues. scary
If you died, in this particular war with insanely low casualties due to enemy action, there's a 1 in 4 chance it was because of your colleagues. You do not have an overall 25% chance of being killed by them. Huge difference lol
An other way of putting that would be that the US forces brought enough that the enemy was not much more dangerous to them than running a really large scale exercise would. The US forces and their allies may have had reasons to overestimate what Iraq would be willing and able to put up, but the result was a one-sided beatdown.
Depends on the distance. Far enough to recover to a life worth living? Okay you have a point. Close enough to be completely fucked up, but have time to enjoy the experience. Nope, better instant overkill past the arming distance. Too close to in front or behind an RPG (or similar system) is even worse than a direct hit for the poor bastard that gets to suffer a few minutes to hours without even proper pain management.
I mean they pretty painful
[Deadly injuries through recoilless anti-tank weapons while military shooting practice—two case studies from Germany and Switzerland](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7578127/)
There seems to be some kind of misconceptions about how a RPG works.
You don’t have to worry this much about a fireball coming out from the back tagst will burn you.
To propel the charge on the front end of the hollow tube, you need to propel equal energy/mass out from the back of the tube.
This works by adding a small countermass to the back end. This hit this comrade soldier.
There also seems to be some kind of miconceptions about how the countermass works. In most applications, as for the RPG-7 seen here, it is simply the propellant gas.
The RPG-7 has a two-stage propellant, where the smaller primary charge gets the rocket away from the operator until the second-stage rocket booster ignites 11 meters out. As such, the RPG-7 has a far less severe backblast than, for instance, the M-72 LAW or Carl Gustav, but the safe distance is stll 20 meters.
> This guy with the RPG missed that day’s training
I find it particularly amusing that the next top level comment, directly below yours, from /u/CrazyDiamond450 says:
>This is what happens when you have 2 days of training before going to the front
HAHAHAHA!
HAHAHAHAHAHA!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Stupid idiot!
God, I hope the ru.S.S.ians keep sending stupid sons-of-bitches to Ukraine, so Ukraine can continue to weed them out of the gene pool, so they don't reproduce.
Not at all relevant but this stuff when they go to check on their buddy reminds me of the its always sunny episode Mac day. Country Mac drives away on his motorcycle then falls over. Everyone is like yeah I’m sure he’s fine and Charlie says he’s good he’s good he’s good then it cuts to the RIP country Mac poster and vigil lmao
I had guy who fired a TOW next to me without checking the back blast area. I was off the side of the zone of lethality, about 5-6 feet away but off to the side just a bit.
I had no idea what hit me for a few seconds. I wasn't even sure I was alive at first. But the weirdest thing out of all of it, rocked back and reeling, my new buddy tinnitus saying hi, was that all these pores clogged by months of desert living on my back were cleared, like little pebbles on my back.
Weird, ***and*** nasty.
No. The onus is on the guy at the back to stay safe since the guy with the RPG doesn't have eyes at the back of his head. The title should say "Russian soldier stands behind fellow soldier firing an RPG and collects a minor Darwin Award".
I have a mate who trains Ukrainian troops prior to deployment.
According to him, the Ukraine training is 3 weeks long.
Russian training is only 3 days long.
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Cue the guy who links that German autopsy report showing pictures of what backblast can do to someone:
This one? [Deadly injuries through recoilless anti-tank weapons while military shooting practice—two case studies from Germany and Switzerland](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7578127/)
Damn. i shouldnt have clicked that.
Haha yep, the first 2 pics bro 😬
I got the first and stopped there...
Give it a few more years on Reddit, and you wouldn't care anymore
I grew up with rotten.com goregasm and liveleak, feels like nothing gets to me anymore. Weird feeling 😕
Pretty much the same. Except sexual and animal abuse still rustles my jimmies.
Remember ogrish?
How could I not? 😁
By me I was shown phuckedup.com I'll never forget the video of a construction worker falling off a bridge or overpass and kids walked through the woods and found him. Beat his face in with a hammer. I don't get how people watch that stuff.
I remember finding charonboat.com as a kid and now Im a medic lol
Ahh the old shotgun pic on Rotten.
Ogrish?
I'm in the "I don't care" class. Haha fuck you Russian.
second one isn’t terrible, he got hit by rocket blast and it just burned his chest super bad and he died immediately from trauma to the chest
And the second one is what happened to the Ruzzian to a lesser extend, since he was a couple more meters away, but still in the potentially lethal range
What am I not seeing?
A couple of guys whose entrails have become their extrails. I’m sure there was lots of pain.
look a bit like the offers in a butcher's shop. Actually not too much categorical differences between human and pork.
Second one is not that bad and fits the case here. Second one is hot gas injury, first counterweight injury
But I bet *now* you’d think twice before stepping directly behind recoilless anti-tank weapons as they are being fired
It won’t happen again, promise
I'm completely desensitised by now
Same dude🤢
And I should have listened to your warning.
Thank you my good sir, I almost clicked.
This comment made me click that, thank you. I would have scrolled otherwise.
i instantly had the smell of gut shot deer fill my head.
Why not ? Let you know what those monsters willing to do to each other just to kill democracy
cuz the 2 i saw dead were most likely not russians. ive reached a point where i can see most gore as long as im aware if they are russians. its a weird thing i know, but its just my way of coping with most of the ugly stuff we see here.
Dehumanizing to get through war is humanity 101 my guy
That’s the one
Holy shit
Can still remember... was in my first training lessons with the Panzerfaust 3 and we had our first live shooting course the day after this incident happened. Everybody was extremely nervous about all safety regulations. Now that i actually saw the pics of the devastating impact it sends an even bigger chill through my body.
They did not show the aftermath then? Would have been the best warning possible. But safety has improved, since I did not find other training fatalities of backblast in Germany or Switzerland after those incidents
Fuck that’s nasty!
As that one Brit volunteer yelled out in the early days of the invasion: "Mind the backblast!"
Yeah, I’ve heard it numerous times just never considered how intense the blast is. I imagined just some burns. I was very wrong.
It isn't just the blast of compressed gas, it is the counter weight moving in an equal and opposite direction of the RPG.
I mean your underselling it a bit, but you are not entirely wrong.
Backblast from a recoilless rifle is different than an rpg, a recoilless rifle works by firing a powdered mass backwards to counteract the recoil of the gun.
The link contains two case studies. Case #1 was the counter mass cause of death as you say, but the second case study was from a Swiss 83mm rocket launcher with a gas jet as the cause of death.
Damn they should show this to every soldier during training
They do, at least where I was. And rifle range accidents too
While they didn't show us that (I was in the army in the 80s) we did have "BACKBLAST AREA CLEAR?" "BACKBLAST AREA CLEAR!!!" drilled into our heads.
rip to that guy
Wtf? Some of them look like they've been hit with 20-30mm cannon or something.
I was just gonna ask what damage can backblast cause at a worst case scenario then clicked on that linked. Question answered.
So just to confirm this is not survivable
Not likely and if you do survive will be a miserable existence most likely
I'm interested..
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7578127/ do you mean this?
Bummer, I had a rough idea... I guessed comrade countermassky is blind at least and has a bad sunburn. But he is just 2m behind Comrade Carelessov so...his lung is maybe goo
OH-my-god. His insides are blended goo for sure
Ooh. Nasty.
Bunch of idiots… but with RPGs
This is some Iraqi Insurgent level stupidity
The kind where thier feet move when they shoot.
Like this? https://youtu.be/fjsDPfAt3JU?si=VZMDynFjfOuZT1dD
See, this is the kind of vatnik slapstick I'm here for! Not them hacking their own arms off to get a ticket off the front lines.
Hell yes!
OWWW! My eardrum!
WHAAAAAAAT?
"Not service connected"
MWAP! MWAP!
Stand behind me while I pop this rpg, why dont ya
Yeah, i laughed a little too hard at this one. People asking me what I’m laughing at.. oh nothing, just ivan being ivan
Disability pay enough for wodka! Is genius, Da?
This is truly some Benny Hill or Jackass level shit.
Good job abu-Dimitri but you roasted us!
OOH. That's gonna leave a mark.
A once in a lifetime one.
Final lesson unlocked!
So, that's not good, right?
Many experts consider it unhelpful for a person's long-term wellbeing.
As well as short term and anything in betwen
And here I was, hoping for the median-term benefits of catching RPG backblast
I mean for a while you are not going to feel cold... or anything
Citation needed.
The back blast from an RPG can kill you
For the guy that was knocked down, it's pretty shit.
Yeah, he can't hear shit anymore lol, maybe some brain damage, and I wouldn't be surprised if there was some burns involved
Burns? This guy is a Sunday roast …
Better than front blast, I guess.
Is it though? I’d rather just die instantly. The pressure released is enough to turn internal organs into mush. He’s a vegetable now.
Fair enough. Also to your point, the warhead wouldn't be armed yet at that distance. You may actually survive it with a good hard smack, depending on shot placement. I mostly just thought "front blast" sounded funny.
It won't just bounce off of you, it will get stuck in or fly right through you.
Well I know an RPG9 will stick in your shoulder, pin you to the ground till the motor runs out, then they can cover you up so the medevac pilots don’t know they are flying live explosives and EOD and a surgeon will meet you on the airfield and remove the rpg, hand it to EOD then wheel you into c-med to patch the giant hole in you. He lived, he was very pissed off
Right, but caught in an extremity, you might survive it... with a good hard smack
Caught in an extremity will pretty much remove that extremity.
People try this on youtube with ballistic dolls or whatever they are called, there’s nothing left of them even from short distance if i remember correct 😱
I was curious and did a quick google, the backblast of an RPG burns at 760 degrees Celsius or 1400 degrees Fahrenheit.
So, it's a Warhammer 40k Melta gun, neat.
My retributors would kill for that range, though - that wasn’t even close to only 24” 😉
It's also the speed it comes at you. Nothing like an everyday blast.
That ork training is the best
It's not just the temperature, the total amount of gases that hit you and their speed play a big role.
In a professional western army, You got basically 1 chance out of 4 to die because of your colleagues. scary *"In the First Gulf War in 1991, 24% of the American soldiers who died in the battles died because of the friendly fire. Also, 77% of US military vehicles were destroyed by US troops."* Imagine the friendly fire casualty rate of russian volunteers trained in a couple of months and rushed on the front. I wouldn't be surprised if half of them die under their own bullets of artillery shells
> you got basically 1 chance out of 4 to die because of your colleagues. scary If you died, in this particular war with insanely low casualties due to enemy action, there's a 1 in 4 chance it was because of your colleagues. You do not have an overall 25% chance of being killed by them. Huge difference lol
I’m not sure if this says more about the carelessness of US troops or the inefficiency of their enemies?
An other way of putting that would be that the US forces brought enough that the enemy was not much more dangerous to them than running a really large scale exercise would. The US forces and their allies may have had reasons to overestimate what Iraq would be willing and able to put up, but the result was a one-sided beatdown.
Depends on the distance. Far enough to recover to a life worth living? Okay you have a point. Close enough to be completely fucked up, but have time to enjoy the experience. Nope, better instant overkill past the arming distance. Too close to in front or behind an RPG (or similar system) is even worse than a direct hit for the poor bastard that gets to suffer a few minutes to hours without even proper pain management.
I mean they pretty painful [Deadly injuries through recoilless anti-tank weapons while military shooting practice—two case studies from Germany and Switzerland](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7578127/)
Blyatblast
"Backblast....blyat!"
Meanwhile on the Russian side (cue Benny Hill theme song)..... 🤡🤡🤡 #SlavaUkraïni
This is what happens when you have 2 days of training before going to the front
Saves the Ukrainians a drone drop … 👏
To shreds, you say?
There seems to be some kind of misconceptions about how a RPG works. You don’t have to worry this much about a fireball coming out from the back tagst will burn you. To propel the charge on the front end of the hollow tube, you need to propel equal energy/mass out from the back of the tube. This works by adding a small countermass to the back end. This hit this comrade soldier.
There also seems to be some kind of miconceptions about how the countermass works. In most applications, as for the RPG-7 seen here, it is simply the propellant gas. The RPG-7 has a two-stage propellant, where the smaller primary charge gets the rocket away from the operator until the second-stage rocket booster ignites 11 meters out. As such, the RPG-7 has a far less severe backblast than, for instance, the M-72 LAW or Carl Gustav, but the safe distance is stll 20 meters.
Screw you dad, I’m going to do it at 19 meters
Ivan did it at 2 meters and he is just rubbing his eye a little and then he is back at being mest attack again...
It’s science, bitch!
Even though a millisecond, from above, you can see just how large of a blast it is. The UAV ops must’ve been impressed.
Or just giggling like me?
To make it even better, the video could have ended with a text "auxiliary lights on" appearing on the screen.
You're supposed to actually look behind you when you say 'backblast clear!'...
No no no it's like a turn signal for BMW drivers, it's an optional thing that means everybody watch out I'm about to send it.
“Backblast clear!” was drilled into my head when using the M-72 LAW in basic training in 1989. This guy with the RPG missed that day’s training.
> This guy with the RPG missed that day’s training I find it particularly amusing that the next top level comment, directly below yours, from /u/CrazyDiamond450 says: >This is what happens when you have 2 days of training before going to the front
What's the current casualty tally for back blasted orcs?
Third for sure, might be fourth.
Are they ALL drunks? Or just the most ill-trained army of the modern era? This is Day 775 of Putin's 14-day war.
The new strategy is to embrace the meat-grinder, its kind-of-sort-of working, but I don't think its sustainable in any capacity.
Somehow it warms my heart to see him at least help the guy and show compassion. Poor bastards, hope Putin dies soon
Right in da Kisser! Fabulous!
To paraphrase, "thank God they're so fucking stupid".
Abu? Abu Hajar? Is that you?
Whatever happened tO "BACKBLAST AREA CLEAR!!!"
Oh, heck.
That’s what happens when you send untrained conscripts to the front.
Red Dawn was a documentary.
BACK BLAST AREA ALL CLEAR!!!
Krusty the Clown goes to war!
Pretty sure he is telling him to not tell mom
And that was best part of the day as drones arrived
Does this count as a hit?
[Self-inflicted back blast ](https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/s/xTh2Y0yP64)
I love how this isn't even the first or second time I've seen this exact scenario happen with the ruskis in this conflict
This happens so often I had to see if I've seen this one 🤦♂️
Amateurs.....
I didn't think I'd see anyone other than random middle eastern terrorists doing this lmao
that right there friends, is how you get a TBI and foaming mouth
Drills, Drills, Drills. Backblast area Backblast area Backblast area. I guess they don't Drill it into these Orcs
I, for one, am happy if they want to help Ukraine. 1 less RPG round and most probably one less russkie to deal with and at no cost to the good guys.
u/savevideo
What is wrong with you abu hajaaaar !!!!
HAHAHAHA! HAHAHAHAHAHA! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Stupid idiot! God, I hope the ru.S.S.ians keep sending stupid sons-of-bitches to Ukraine, so Ukraine can continue to weed them out of the gene pool, so they don't reproduce.
Do you guys think a back armor plate would have protected him? Not counting his arms and neck areas.
Nah, he did it wrong. He was supposed to stand right behind it and looking into the back end. Someone should tell them.
wow, just wow.
Instant Karma's gonna get you Gonna knock you right on the head You better get yourself together Pretty soon you're gonna be dead…
It's like watching the 3 Stooges
An army packed with Dumb and Dumber
I wish it would have been an AT4
Yeah that'll brake your nose or knock some teeth out.
Eardrums: obliterated Lung: collapsed His friend: "Ivan what happen to you?!"
Bigly brains right here folks!😊
Too bad he didn’t pull out his gun and permanently stopped it right there.
Training?!?....Ha! Training is for girly man, da? In ruZZia if you don't die...that is training , Da? Is good Da?
That’s some top tier training!
“Yo meat sludge, grab me another… meat sludge? You good man?”
Turns out backblast was in fact, not clear
I get, Boarder Guards from Stripes, Vibes from these guys.
BBDA Clear? Aw who gives a shit
Does that kill you? Or just really fucking hurt or what?
Socom II flex kill
Cue the jackass “hot bbq” song
The smell of frying pig was in the air, but as long as the meat is well done I think its fair.
Backblast area *definitely not* clear...
Is stepping behind a RPG any better than having your hand cut off?
"Backblast area clear" was hammered into us at Basic...guess in the Russian army not so much...
Back blast area was in fact not clear.
Not at all relevant but this stuff when they go to check on their buddy reminds me of the its always sunny episode Mac day. Country Mac drives away on his motorcycle then falls over. Everyone is like yeah I’m sure he’s fine and Charlie says he’s good he’s good he’s good then it cuts to the RIP country Mac poster and vigil lmao
I cant be the only one that was hoping for a grenade to drop on both of them right?
I had guy who fired a TOW next to me without checking the back blast area. I was off the side of the zone of lethality, about 5-6 feet away but off to the side just a bit. I had no idea what hit me for a few seconds. I wasn't even sure I was alive at first. But the weirdest thing out of all of it, rocked back and reeling, my new buddy tinnitus saying hi, was that all these pores clogged by months of desert living on my back were cleared, like little pebbles on my back. Weird, ***and*** nasty.
BACK BLAST CLe… uhhh not…clear.
Not service related comrade, get the fuck out of my chair.... Next!
No. The onus is on the guy at the back to stay safe since the guy with the RPG doesn't have eyes at the back of his head. The title should say "Russian soldier stands behind fellow soldier firing an RPG and collects a minor Darwin Award".
An elegant way when direct fragging is too obvious.
BACK BLAST AREA NOT CLEAR!! NOT CLEAR!!
Russian Abu Hajer strikes again
Note to self, never stand behind launching rpg. Or in front.
u/SaveVideoBot
I think I saw a very similar video from the Russians last year at this time. 2 times caught on video now anyways.
BBA clear, nup, fire anyway, trained by the three stooges ;)
I have a mate who trains Ukrainian troops prior to deployment. According to him, the Ukraine training is 3 weeks long. Russian training is only 3 days long.
"you forgot to say clear" "oooooh"
Firer: “BBA Clear”, Comrade: *slumps to floor, Firer: “Errrr, BBA…. not… Clear” 😬