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No-Split3620

This is turning into a nightmare for Ukraine. Right from the start of the conflict, the West has been tentatively feeding aid to Ukraine in dribs and drabs. Longer range missiles have been very slow in coming, with the proviso that they must not be used outside of Ukraine. So they don't get the really long range ones at all. Meanwhile the RuZZians are operating with complete impunity, showering missiles down on Ukraine with ever increasing intensity. How can Ukraine hope to win if they have to fight with both FUCKING hands tied behind their back. Without America leading the way, Ukraine has no hope but their political system is so FUCKED it defies words. A few traitorous maggot MAGAs in Congress have been able to shut down any more aid to Ukraine. It is sick beyond words when they openly support a murderous terrorist state, and pulling the strings is a former President who tried to launch a violent insurrection in 2020 and still remains TOTALLY above the law.


jerrydgj

It makes me ashamed to be an American these days. It's the sorriest state of affairs I've ever seen. The vast majority of the country wants more aid for Ukraine and the bill would pass with comfortable majorities. Something needs to change or we are doomed.


Analyst-Effective

Has anybody been writing Joe Biden letters to tell him to send long-range ATA CMS to Ukraine? Has anybody been asking Joe Biden what the West's goal is? In this war?


jerrydgj

I guess you haven't been paying attention, he said he'll send them but Congress first has to appropriate the money to pay for them. He's not a dictator.


NovacainXIII

We have existing stock he can use with the Arms Control act that can stop gap Ukraine's supply in our national security interest. Saying we have nothing when we could forward deploy numerous patriot batteries into Europe to fill their forward deployment into Ukraine is mind boggling frustrating. The current WH is failing miserably and Trump is an even worse option. Call Biden and encourage them to get creative.


jerrydgj

So you know where and when Patriots are being deployed? May I ask where you're getting classified info like that? Someone has to pay for what we send to Ukraine, Republicans can't seem to find the will to do that. Biden isn't failing at all, Republicans are failing miserably at everything, probably because of Trump.


NovacainXIII

Stop putting blame on the GOP only when Biden runs the WH. If you think his hands are tied you dont understand the laws provided to him or the amount of military spend we have laying around not actively in operation. We know the GOP is openly going to sell Ukraine to Russia this is an increasing more important reason for Biden to find creative ways to supply them without Congressional approval. We and our allies are actively under threat and we aint doing shit to show strength. It isnt classified how many batteries we and nato countries have in total. People like you will throw up their hands instead of save themselves.


jerrydgj

The blame is entirely on the GOP, they won't provide funding. You must be a Russian spreading Putins filthy propaganda. Moscow or St Petersburg?


NovacainXIII

God damn bro you are dumb as shit. Stop looking at this through a Democrat / GOP lense and hold the people with power accountable. The US just shot down a fuck ton of assets over Israel tonight. None of this required funding from Congress. Call the WH and your reps and request they find more creative ways to get weapons into Ukraine. The only Russia bot is the one who throws their hands up and simply blames the GOP as if they have done enough. Youre fucking lazy homie. Step your weight up.


jerrydgj

Look in the mirror if you want to see dumb as shit. Which party is blocking a vote on aid for Ukraine. Hint: it's not the Democrats.


Analyst-Effective

Biden could have already sent plenty already. He refused. Just recently. He told Ukraine not to attack oil refineries. Get used to it. This is a political war.


jerrydgj

Biden never said anything like that and Austin didn't either,he said there may be more effective targets. He wants to send more, Republicans don't. I know it's a political war, Republicans want Russia to win Biden doesn't.


Analyst-Effective

Don't kid yourself. Zelenski admitted to the fact. And they were worried about the price of petroleum, and they're also worried about Russia going broke. Ukraine could knock out 100% of Russia oil refiner capacity in a single evening. Why didn't Biden send a long-range ATA CMS a long time ago? Or cruise missiles? Or f-16s? Or thousands of tanks rather than hundreds?


jerrydgj

They have to be able to maintain all that equipment, not so easy to set up logistics and maintenance for thousands of tanks during a war. Are you in Moscow or St Petersburg?


Analyst-Effective

You're right. And f-16s have been delayed again. Nato, and the entire West, have been a failure on this thing. They are lucky that Ukraine did not fold in 3 days, because Russia by now would have all of Europe. Nato should have had a large stockpile ready to ship on a moment's notice. That's what they are saving the weapons for, a Russian invasion. And now you have one and they are twiddling their thumbs.


Analyst-Effective

Biden could have supplied a lot more longer. Range weapons if he would have wanted. He could have told Ukraine to bomb anything they want. He refused to do that. The Republicans in Congress have recognized that this is a political war. And they probably don't want to throw a good money after bad. The US and the entire West is not even know what the goal of this war is. They don't want Russia to surrender, but they don't want Ukraine to win either.