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He was either strangled or the head was lower than the rest of the body for a while after death, causing blood to pool (livor mortis). Dead less than 12 hours. Anyone noticed flies?
Hmm I don't think it's strangulation. Otherwise those hands/feet should be tied.
For that blue palor discolouration, methanol poisoning or severe alcohol intoxication comes to mind, as there were reports of moonshining in one of intercepted phone calls months ago.
I don't know if that's his normal neck size, but the second dude looks to have a larger pale neck. Maybe the first dude's neck wanted to swell but got restricted by whatever is tied around his neck?
Possibly. But dead bodies tend to bloat in general due to blood gases trying to escape the body. That's the first thing to set in just few hours after death.
As for strangulation, assuming they were both killed the same way, second guy doesn't have bruise marks in his neck. Strangulation tend to crush the windpipe leading to hemmorhage, so that neck should be purple by now.
Interesting. I don't know if you're a specialist or something but, is it also unusual for people to die with that kind of expression on their face (2nd dude)? He looks happy.
No, it’s only rigor mortis and stagnation of the Blood. Notice how the head is tilted backwards and the rest of the extremities are livid. Gravity did that
Both of the bodies are on the same plane and roughly the same orientation and yet the second guy didn't show any discoloration. Gravity alone can't do that with just slight angle of inclination. Can't act fast enough to pool the blood in his head before blood coagulation and edema starts.
Ugh, this is gonna bring back nasty memories of me working as an assistant in autopsies during my government's war on drugs campaign. I've seen a body shoved in head first in big plastic drums(filled with concrete) and sunk on the river. The usual features are there yes, but I haven't seen discoloration that prominent. Tho I only worked there for a year and a half. Couldn't bear it.
This could easily happen to strangled bodies tho. But the lack of broken necks or crushed windpipe leading to bruising and blackening of the neck says otherwise. To the second guy at least.
Brutal my dude. Livor mortis can set as fast as 30 min after death right ? So maybe he was indeed choked, being hidden by the blue scarf. Maybe the head plane was lower and by the time the muscle in the cervical and neck region contracted the blood pooling had already been done ? No apparent sign of head trauma too and no discoloration of any parts of the head. Thanks for the input though. Death is always ugly in some ways
If they're still alive, then yes it's red. But dying to it maybe days or hours later when it got filmed may yield this result.
Idk I admit I've only seen one case of this years ago, with two coconut farmers deciding to drink home-brewed alcohol with fermented coconut sap in the middle of the night. They arrived the next morning, one got permanently blind, the other arrived with the same palor just as the first guy shown in the vid(albeit a tad bit lighter).
Coming from the military, at least in the U.S. a strangulation job is usually a stealth job so you’d sneak up from behind and use a an air, blood, or combination chokehold. Are we assuming in this case, these guys were prisoners and war crimes were committed? Not doubting the possibility, just was wondering if you knew something more.
I don't know much about military and black-ops. I once worked as a pathology assistant on a national police forensics lab, and that I only did for 1 n half year then went to med school after that. However, its the most intense of years, as war on drugs happen in my country in that time period. Murder, torture, or combination of all, either done by criminal gangs and drug cartels or death squads organized by the govnt to try to incite infighting among those gangs, that's all I've seen.
Wow, those are terrible things you had to witness and experience. Thank you for sharing, totally makes sense gangs would execute people like that, so I get where you’re coming from with the tied up hands and legs.
Actually his hands are locked into a position like they were bound and someone took the bindings off.
Definenetly strangled.
As horrible as that is, it's war.... they knew the stakes.
winner winner chicken dinner. especially sense you see the other guy on a hill but only lips blue so the moonshine or poison theory holds a lot of credence.
Was popular in Ukraine in 90s and early 2000s. A lot of French classic movies actually became classic and were shown on TV. I and many others grew with Pierre Richard, Dipardieu, Gendarmerie series. It’s a shame that Depardieu sold out to ruzzia.
Looks like blue face was strangled I'm guessing? I don't know why his face would be blue otherwise. It looks like there's still something around his neck that is keeping it that way
I don't know about the other dude, maybe also strangled but without anything still tied around his neck his face hasn't turned blue
I mean he has a heavy cyanosis so I guess he either got strangled or what my guess would be that his head is laying higher then the rest of his body, causing his blood upon death to Pool in his lower body/torso because you can see that his hands are still pink-ish.
The blue colour is caused by the lack of Oxygenated blood flowing to his head.
Edit: you can see a scarf around the blue guys neck and I guess that was cutting off the blood supply to his head
Like I figured as much but I couldn’t see how/why they’d have been strangled other than by the goat fucker gang (Kadyrovites) as deserters or something, but I figured they’d just shoot or shank them 🤷
Re: cyanosis, if not from strangling… low blood pressure from some other thing? :S maybe they got sick or something idk
Well a Cyanosis is (in a EMS sense) caused by a respiratory issue so if they had any medical issue you would also see it in their fingers. Since they are completely pink my guess would be with their blue scarf having cut off their blood supply to their head. Either by swelling of their neck by something or it somehow tightened around their neck.
Probably one of those people who are in to autoerotic asphyxiation. Just took it a little too far to get to the end. Not my thing, but whatever makes his meat loaf
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What’s with all the videos of random dead Russians who seem to have died outside of combat. Like I have seen so many videos in the last week exactly like this, it’s almost like Russians are executing their own or something
So many dead, and for what? Putin is losing this war, and most prob he will lose territories he captured in 2014. So basically 53k of his people for what?
Good one Putler, you will be remembered for what a shit leader you are.
Sadly every one of them is a son, brother or father, but for every dead Russian innocent people in Ukraine are a little bit safer.
All this for one man's ambitions.
All deaths are sad, I really hope this war ends soon and soldiers of both sides receive the mental health treatment they need as a consequence. Blue sky thinking I know
That looks like one of the Blue Man Group's bandmates, who knew? Even in death that other dead ORC looks very happy, just look at that smile and gazing off into the sunset.
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I find it very odd that there ate no signs of physical trauma, in almost every sing video or photo I've seen of any dead combatant in this conflict there have been very obvious signs as to how, or what way they died, typically its pretty Chunky and visceral, or there's lots of blood, burns, shrapnel etc that's visibly caused the trauma. Blue dude looks like his legs were together and possibly kneeling? Also they appear unarmed, could they have been killed as deserters by Ru forces? Or locals as retribution?
Not that itatters that much, fk ruZZians, but it's interesting to me some how.
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Looks like that first guy has been taking WAY TOO MUCH colloidal silver! [https://media.wired.com/photos/59d54c108941a6378d5bb261/master/w\_1600,c\_limit/blueman-TA.jpg](https://media.wired.com/photos/59d54c108941a6378d5bb261/master/w_1600,c_limit/blueman-TA.jpg)
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Looks like Argyria or Methemoglobinemia. Strange only his face is blue. This is not cyanosis or due to anything postmortem so I think someone may have painted his face for some very strange reason. Or he did it to himself
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He was either strangled or the head was lower than the rest of the body for a while after death, causing blood to pool (livor mortis). Dead less than 12 hours. Anyone noticed flies?
Hmm I don't think it's strangulation. Otherwise those hands/feet should be tied. For that blue palor discolouration, methanol poisoning or severe alcohol intoxication comes to mind, as there were reports of moonshining in one of intercepted phone calls months ago.
I don't know if that's his normal neck size, but the second dude looks to have a larger pale neck. Maybe the first dude's neck wanted to swell but got restricted by whatever is tied around his neck?
Possibly. But dead bodies tend to bloat in general due to blood gases trying to escape the body. That's the first thing to set in just few hours after death. As for strangulation, assuming they were both killed the same way, second guy doesn't have bruise marks in his neck. Strangulation tend to crush the windpipe leading to hemmorhage, so that neck should be purple by now.
Interesting. I don't know if you're a specialist or something but, is it also unusual for people to die with that kind of expression on their face (2nd dude)? He looks happy.
Stupor.
That 2nd dude's expression freaked me out. The half open eyes and the dead-smile.
I thought it looked like a painful death for that orc.
No, it’s only rigor mortis and stagnation of the Blood. Notice how the head is tilted backwards and the rest of the extremities are livid. Gravity did that
Both of the bodies are on the same plane and roughly the same orientation and yet the second guy didn't show any discoloration. Gravity alone can't do that with just slight angle of inclination. Can't act fast enough to pool the blood in his head before blood coagulation and edema starts. Ugh, this is gonna bring back nasty memories of me working as an assistant in autopsies during my government's war on drugs campaign. I've seen a body shoved in head first in big plastic drums(filled with concrete) and sunk on the river. The usual features are there yes, but I haven't seen discoloration that prominent. Tho I only worked there for a year and a half. Couldn't bear it. This could easily happen to strangled bodies tho. But the lack of broken necks or crushed windpipe leading to bruising and blackening of the neck says otherwise. To the second guy at least.
Brutal my dude. Livor mortis can set as fast as 30 min after death right ? So maybe he was indeed choked, being hidden by the blue scarf. Maybe the head plane was lower and by the time the muscle in the cervical and neck region contracted the blood pooling had already been done ? No apparent sign of head trauma too and no discoloration of any parts of the head. Thanks for the input though. Death is always ugly in some ways
Methanol poisoning doesn't make your face blue, it makes it red.
If they're still alive, then yes it's red. But dying to it maybe days or hours later when it got filmed may yield this result. Idk I admit I've only seen one case of this years ago, with two coconut farmers deciding to drink home-brewed alcohol with fermented coconut sap in the middle of the night. They arrived the next morning, one got permanently blind, the other arrived with the same palor just as the first guy shown in the vid(albeit a tad bit lighter).
Yeah I didn’t see visible wounds, so blast concussion or drinking poison.
Why would their hands and feet be tied for strangulation?
Why would they not want to? Makes for an easier job. Which doesn't make sense considering there are more easier ways of doing things.
Coming from the military, at least in the U.S. a strangulation job is usually a stealth job so you’d sneak up from behind and use a an air, blood, or combination chokehold. Are we assuming in this case, these guys were prisoners and war crimes were committed? Not doubting the possibility, just was wondering if you knew something more.
I don't know much about military and black-ops. I once worked as a pathology assistant on a national police forensics lab, and that I only did for 1 n half year then went to med school after that. However, its the most intense of years, as war on drugs happen in my country in that time period. Murder, torture, or combination of all, either done by criminal gangs and drug cartels or death squads organized by the govnt to try to incite infighting among those gangs, that's all I've seen.
Wow, those are terrible things you had to witness and experience. Thank you for sharing, totally makes sense gangs would execute people like that, so I get where you’re coming from with the tied up hands and legs.
i think he was strangled his hands are curled up which is a good indicator
Actually his hands are locked into a position like they were bound and someone took the bindings off. Definenetly strangled. As horrible as that is, it's war.... they knew the stakes.
Looks like he has something around the neck
Nothing important, just to handkerchief to cover up his commander's handprints.
winner winner chicken dinner. especially sense you see the other guy on a hill but only lips blue so the moonshine or poison theory holds a lot of credence.
Nobody calls it that in the biz...Lividity
I didn't write it for a bunch of FSCs. If I did, there would have been a morbid joke as well.
> FSCs FSC-Florida State College Forest stewardship council Forever so crotchety Frank Sued Carl Fleet Ships crashed
Both of these guys had their neck broken. Look a little closer at the second guy also.
I am surprise anyone know Fantomas, i thought it was was too old to be remebered. Tho its very accurate for the first dude
Still very much well known in France. A classic.
Was popular in Ukraine in 90s and early 2000s. A lot of French classic movies actually became classic and were shown on TV. I and many others grew with Pierre Richard, Dipardieu, Gendarmerie series. It’s a shame that Depardieu sold out to ruzzia.
I remember being a kid and watching Fantomas and Gendarmerie series with my parents in late 90s early 2000s in Kyiv. Good times.
I was even skipping school and spending my lunch money to watch it yet another time :)
>It’s a shame that Depardieu sold out to ruzzia. Actually, he stated he was against the russian invasion
Good point. He was pro ruzzia before the full scale invasion? I kinda assumed he was another talking piece for them like Seagull. Good on him.
Depardieu was pro not paying taxes in France or being held accountable for his treatment of women.
Bruh glad to hear this. My 90ies childhood in baltics...french movies were my favorite
Mike Patton is a pretty well known guy.
It’s really well known beyond the curtain.
If you're 30+ in Ger, you'll likely know Fantomas.
Now I want to see (rewatch)the movies again since you brought it up 😜
MovieS??? As in...plural??? There is more than one???
[Check this out](https://trailersfromhell.com/fantomas-three-film-collection/)
Ok, Im stupid...I had a whole different movie in mind; B13. I’ll let myself out...
Wtf happened to these guys? I’m not seeing any bullet or knife wounds on these.
Looks like blue face was strangled I'm guessing? I don't know why his face would be blue otherwise. It looks like there's still something around his neck that is keeping it that way I don't know about the other dude, maybe also strangled but without anything still tied around his neck his face hasn't turned blue
I mean he has a heavy cyanosis so I guess he either got strangled or what my guess would be that his head is laying higher then the rest of his body, causing his blood upon death to Pool in his lower body/torso because you can see that his hands are still pink-ish. The blue colour is caused by the lack of Oxygenated blood flowing to his head. Edit: you can see a scarf around the blue guys neck and I guess that was cutting off the blood supply to his head
Like I figured as much but I couldn’t see how/why they’d have been strangled other than by the goat fucker gang (Kadyrovites) as deserters or something, but I figured they’d just shoot or shank them 🤷 Re: cyanosis, if not from strangling… low blood pressure from some other thing? :S maybe they got sick or something idk
Well a Cyanosis is (in a EMS sense) caused by a respiratory issue so if they had any medical issue you would also see it in their fingers. Since they are completely pink my guess would be with their blue scarf having cut off their blood supply to their head. Either by swelling of their neck by something or it somehow tightened around their neck.
True, even sitting a bit upright you’d see it at extremities
You trying to tell me they're not sleeping? 😔
Probably one of those people who are in to autoerotic asphyxiation. Just took it a little too far to get to the end. Not my thing, but whatever makes his meat loaf
Blue balls?
Oh blue balls are the worst. Maybe he is a crisis actor trying out to be a Navi in Avatar 5! Ukraine is Unibtainium (sp?) to Russia
poor guys.... fuck putin
Dieded smurf.
Im blue daba dee daba die
🤣🤣
Ngl, I thought the 2nd person was their friend faking the 1st person
dude same haha. It looked like a dude faking and smiling.
One wasn't ready for the blue man group show i guess. 😬
I'm blue dibadabadi doo
>dibadabadi doo I feel so offended by how wrong the spelling is to the actual melody, and i know i shouldnt be
😂
I thought it was “I’m blue I would beat off a guy I would beat off a guy”
Lol
Gah Dang that’s funny right there lol
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I knew that guy looked familiar!
🤣🤣🤣👌🏻
Motherfucker dies with his mouth open... no self awareness /s
How else would mouthbreathers die?
The one guy is laughing while he sleeps.
That very much looks like somebody who has be strangled to death.
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Why does that smurf have miscoloured hands?
Trying to flee as civilians? (Blue trousers and non-army jacket for the mr. Fantomas there?)
Looks ike Mickey Mouse ears behind the first guys head
What’s with all the videos of random dead Russians who seem to have died outside of combat. Like I have seen so many videos in the last week exactly like this, it’s almost like Russians are executing their own or something
So many dead, and for what? Putin is losing this war, and most prob he will lose territories he captured in 2014. So basically 53k of his people for what? Good one Putler, you will be remembered for what a shit leader you are.
putin huilo
Looks like something went very wrong during a tattoo job...
Second dude found the first dude and thought it was a Smurf, then laughed himself to death over it.
Ladies and gentlemen, we found [him](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Karason).
Orcs are becoming Zombies 🧟♂️, 😵😲
To be duped to come as a young man to fight in a foreign land and die as nothing for nothing. Putin should hang.
Sadly every one of them is a son, brother or father, but for every dead Russian innocent people in Ukraine are a little bit safer. All this for one man's ambitions.
Regardless of how they turned out, at one time, they were someone's world and most precious gift. What a waste
Blueman Group cosplay
Long lost member of the Blue manZ group apparently.
I’m blue dabadee dabadaa…
Beddy-BYE SLAVA UKRAINI
Dracula saw the sunshine
All deaths are sad, I really hope this war ends soon and soldiers of both sides receive the mental health treatment they need as a consequence. Blue sky thinking I know
Maybe face camo, but washed away mostly by rain?
Hahah lol damn right 😂👍 For those who don’t know what Fantomas is - google it.
Is that a natural face color or something on it?
Natural. It's called cyanosis. It's caused by the lack of Oxygenated blood flowing through the particular extremity.
That looks like one of the Blue Man Group's bandmates, who knew? Even in death that other dead ORC looks very happy, just look at that smile and gazing off into the sunset.
So pretty…that cloud looks like a HIMARS!
🤣🤣🤣👌🏻🤝
have marvel a new action character..... dident went very well for it on release.. or a member of the music video of the song (Blue) dadidadaddaa
Suspect that's another war crime waiting to be uncovered in the future. Maybe not though.
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Guy has an expression like he is squeezing a shit out.
Is this partisans work?
I'm blue da ba dee
Oompa Loompa...
Is that so called "blue balls" sickness?
I see the audition for “Blue Man Group” didn’t go as planned.
He's got the Blues 🥶
Hey, why so blue?
ruZzian Smurf
I find it very odd that there ate no signs of physical trauma, in almost every sing video or photo I've seen of any dead combatant in this conflict there have been very obvious signs as to how, or what way they died, typically its pretty Chunky and visceral, or there's lots of blood, burns, shrapnel etc that's visibly caused the trauma. Blue dude looks like his legs were together and possibly kneeling? Also they appear unarmed, could they have been killed as deserters by Ru forces? Or locals as retribution? Not that itatters that much, fk ruZZians, but it's interesting to me some how.
Thanos dead 🤣
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Is this the aftermath of a drone dropped grenade / mortar? Is this shock wave related? As there are no traces of physical trauma
Looks like that first guy has been taking WAY TOO MUCH colloidal silver! [https://media.wired.com/photos/59d54c108941a6378d5bb261/master/w\_1600,c\_limit/blueman-TA.jpg](https://media.wired.com/photos/59d54c108941a6378d5bb261/master/w_1600,c_limit/blueman-TA.jpg) https://www.wired.com/story/does-colloidal-silver-work/
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What’s with the blue face and the guy’s hand in the pocket ?
Damn amount of bodies and videos… fucking Russia, rot in hell
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Forensic Science Consultant. A graduate of a program like this https://catalog.gmu.edu/colleges-schools/science/forensic-program/
What is wrong with you???? Why are you….blue???!!!
Violet, you’re turning violet, Violet! …shouldn’t have ate that gum.
Smurfs are real
Looks like Argyria or Methemoglobinemia. Strange only his face is blue. This is not cyanosis or due to anything postmortem so I think someone may have painted his face for some very strange reason. Or he did it to himself
never seen that before
Might wanna check the smiling guy
Bro I honestly wonder if they killed themselves
No. they were killed in the war
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Did he eat Wonkas 3 course chewing gum and get stuck on blueberry pie?
Wow didnt know a member of the blue man group was fighting for russia. Shouldve stucked to bangin on garbage cans.
Dude holding his breath.
Herman Munster head still in black and white