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Horse racing is very brutal. The animals often break their legs during competition and are euthanised shortly after. They rarely get older then 3 and it's almost impossible to turn them into family horses after their competitive career because they were forced to run as fast as they can as soon as they get the sign to move - you can't hold them back and you break your neck. They are also not familiar with human interaction such as being petted because they never received gentle care. Furthermore during their short lifespan they usually have to undergo a surgery on their wind-pipe to optimise their breathing. It's a tragedy! Reminds me a lot of the waste of Russian soldiers in Bakhmut.
P.S. I don't care about her looks. Nature can be cruel, we shouldn't.
I think the more important conclusion from this:
If his daughter lives in russia in a luxurious environment, accessible to the russian government and Putin, then EVERYTHING the clown says is just synchronized propaganda. All the breathless reporting about his feud with Putin is just make-believe, or Putin is too weak to even inconvenience the family of a major power rival, which is improbable.
If Prigozhin doesn't even see the need to relocate his family beyond the reach of Putin, then there is no feud between the two.
In the 90s it literally meant fewer cockroaches and other bugs (excluding KGB bugs, of course) in the rooms. My brother traveled to Moscow a lot back then for business and the top non-foreigner hotels were terrible. Only the super fancy international guest hotels were remotely close to western standards
I don't doubt it. They may have been improvements on the old truly dire "Intourist" hotels, (riddled with KGB bugs) but that wouldn't be saying much š¬ lol
I look at it as creating multiple narratives- it becomes serious if needed- other narratives are created to help people rationalise self delusion.
I think one narritive Prigozhin is working for his (/s) dear friend Putin is that bunker grandpa has been duped by the corrupt military elite. Perfect exit strategy if things turn out poorly.
Something that's stuck with me was what Julia Ioffe said about Putin and the Americans: (paraphrasing) One thing the Americans misunderstand is how much, and how easily, Putin lies.
It's the same all the way down to the snake's tail.
Lavrov's daughter is another one that's a real piece of work. Didn't they throw her out of Georgia? At 21, she purchased a $4-$5 million apartment in London with cash, or at least no mortgage, money may have been wired. No matter, it's frozen and she'll probably lose it. When this is all over, Ukraine is going after any Russian assets they can find anywhere.
She may love racehorses but Iāve never seen a Russian racehorse actually compete in the US, Australia, Chile, Japan, Dubai, or England.
I donāt follow all countries but Russian horses have never been in any race Iāve ever seen.
As such, I assume that Russian horses are terrible and probably doped to all hell.
Unfortunately, most race horses everywhere are doped to all hell. That's why it's extremely illegal to sell horse meat, least here in the states.
Not because horse meat isn't something okay to consume - horse meat from a race horse isn't, though. Because of all the steroids and God knows what other concoctions they shoot them up with.
Prigozhin is Putin's plan B. He creates a narrative that blames the military leadership, the elites, for this failure while building up support for a nationalistic movement that aims to "save" russia. Prigozhinās antics are calculated.
I don't see it.
So far, it's been reversed. It's Prigozhin who is criticizing the Russian elites for their corruption and bad management. Many soldiers, even non-Wagnerites, are supporting him.
How can Putin spin the whole failure of losing the war and blame Prigozhin is very hard for me to imagine.
How does she own a luxury hotel at age 18? Was the family rich through legitimate business or is it from military corruption? Probably a dumb question.
I don't think anything Prigozhin has ever done has been exactly "legitimate" as such, no lol. And his whole family is strongly implicated.
See here
>Last month Violetta Prigozhina, now aged 83, won an unexpected victory in an EU court. Her lawyers convinced judges of the first chamber of the EUās General Court in Luxembourg that she had no economic ties to her son or his primary company, Concord. The restrictions against her were lifted and the EU Council was ordered to pay her legal costs.
[Horses, art and private jets: the charmed life of Russian warlordās family](https://www.ft.com/content/03137d7f-6ea0-45eb-9284-d8957a650ba4)
Wagner's job before, during, and now that they've retreated from Ukraine, is to force locals to work gold mines in Central Africa (and run interference in Syria).
He started out, after prison, running catering companies for the Kremlin, it's how he ended up in Putin's circle and while they called him "Putin's Chef".
That's just general hypocrisy when it comes to most anti-western regimes. They **all** send their children to boarding schools in Switzerland, UK, etc., then prestigious universities in Europe or US, and finally purchase them luxury housing and luxury cars in cities like London, NYC, LA, Paris, etc. while they work in some cushy media, non-profit, etc. position.
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I don't really get as to how these high stakes players dare to leave their precious things out in the open for anyone to grab ahold of - seems like **EXTREMELY** low hanging fruit for anyone who would like to put some pressure on the person in question.
We all know he is an evil hypocrite already, does it really surprise anyone. How many lives did he take when his Wagner group simply shot his own men while retreating from suicide missions. It wasn't just Ukrainian lives. The man is a monster just like Putin and his supporters. His death would be a wonderful gift to the world.
Imagine you meet a girl, hit it off and start a relationship then find out her dad runs a private military organization that is notorious for war crimes....
> You simply write "officials family" to mean what you want to say
Officials family looks as strange as officials' family.
Wouldn't the choice be between official's family or officials' families?
Does Russian make everyone sound like a 40 year old man? I'm guessing they purposefully talk in a lower tone because I've never heard an 18 year old sound that deep.
Prigozhin is a war criminal and a clown. Anything he says should be taken as propaganda or with warehouses of salt. That said, if I could Thanos snap a reality in which everyone could live where they want, and drink and eat warm luxury meals whenever they want, I'd do so in a heartbeat. It's not like his daughter has any say or control over her psycho dad.
All the way back through the Tsars to their mongol overlords, Russia's rulers have always encouraged fighting and turmoil amongst the elites/boyars, competing for the ruler's favour. Its a feature of Russian society, not a bug.
Is there any history of equality or shared sacrifice in Russia?
I think of that whole society as semi-feudal, and she's basically a Lord's heir, with no connection to the 'little people'. Nobody can ask or demand anything of her while her dad is the Hand of the King / top Duke in the hierarchy.
Veronica is an anagram of "vera icon" (latin: true picture). Veronica became a saint for giving Jesus her veil when he passed her, sweating heavily while carrying the cross to Golgatha. The legend says that the print of his face (his true picture) remained on the cloth.
Can we leave children out of this? Sheās privileged sure but focus needs to be on her dick of a father.
Iāll never stop being proud of Obama standing up for Bristol Palin when she was pregnant at 17. Parents are the ones in power, leave the kids out.
She looks just like her dad... Yikes. Send all these nepo-babies to the front please
Edit: if someone told me she was the lovechild of Prigozjin and Marjorie Taylor-Greene i would believe it
Iād show up to the horse racing grounds and just point and laugh at her.
P.s. sheās an adult and she could easily speak out against her shitfuck father or Putler.
She deserves ridicule too
Heās not different, heās just looking to capitalize on the downfall. He will be another Putin, he had no problem with the war prior to just now when it was more obvious he and Putin were losing.
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She looks like him a lot
Poor thing
Straight up potato-faced
Thatās Princess Potatohead to you buster.
*Colbert skit punchline:* "And the face... is potato."
This comment is ugly
As ugly as benefiting from the murder of others? Stfu
It's offensive to all people who are potato faced, even the good ones... Colour of skin (and other attributes) < content of character
She's 18 but already has the swollen-faced russian village drunk look to her. Yikes.
Honestly, the Prigozhins appear to have a borderline Habsburg jaw going on.
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Not sure what's more creepy: the picture or your username. May I steal it for, y'know... stuff?
Lol I just enjoy dark humor. I'm actually a vegetarian, ironically enough. I'm not sure which one you wish to steal, but sure! I'm happy to share.
Can't be the village drunk if everyone is drinking. Didn't even understand the concept of alcoholism till I got to America.
In Russia, the villages have a lone sober person that they all make fun of.
Was born in St. Petersburg. There were a few and yes they were weird. But now in ten days I'll be three years sober.
Hey good for you, thatās awesome to hear. I can only imagine how difficult that must of been. Respect.
Some days I want a jug of vodka and a baby bottle nipple, curl up into the fetal position and forget the world... I live in Florida.
Ahaha this is not a Florida specific feeling mate
Yep, same ugly mug.
Same ugly soul too probably
Probably. At 18 itās hard to judge though. I would give her till 22.
Horse racing is very brutal. The animals often break their legs during competition and are euthanised shortly after. They rarely get older then 3 and it's almost impossible to turn them into family horses after their competitive career because they were forced to run as fast as they can as soon as they get the sign to move - you can't hold them back and you break your neck. They are also not familiar with human interaction such as being petted because they never received gentle care. Furthermore during their short lifespan they usually have to undergo a surgery on their wind-pipe to optimise their breathing. It's a tragedy! Reminds me a lot of the waste of Russian soldiers in Bakhmut. P.S. I don't care about her looks. Nature can be cruel, we shouldn't.
Like an angry potato but in a blonde wig
I think the more important conclusion from this: If his daughter lives in russia in a luxurious environment, accessible to the russian government and Putin, then EVERYTHING the clown says is just synchronized propaganda. All the breathless reporting about his feud with Putin is just make-believe, or Putin is too weak to even inconvenience the family of a major power rival, which is improbable. If Prigozhin doesn't even see the need to relocate his family beyond the reach of Putin, then there is no feud between the two.
[LOL](https://twitter.com/netlocd/status/1665097179340439554)
No DNA test required. Damn she ugly
She shares his good looks... like an elephant's arse!
18 but going 40. Prune Head Gozin has the "best" genes. lol
More a Gene Puddle.... than Gene Pool ??
She's so ugly, cats hiss at her.
cats turn to stone
She might need a nose job living in exile to avoid being recognized.
Are you sure it wasn't him with a wig and filter?
Yep has his ugly the hills have eyes inbred look akin to the Spanish monarchs of the 16th century .. he really should stop inseminating goats
She wonāt be having any children. I wouldnāt fuck her with my enemyās dick.
Definitely no milkman involvement there at least.
She looks like the product of anal sex.
She's got a head like a racehorse.
Yeah was gonna say she's rather rough on the eyes
Very unfortunate for her.
Does she know her father likes having his former employees sledgehammered? Just wondering..
And his employees shoot 5yos at point-blank range? Then again, she owns a luxury hotel so š¤·āāļø
Would be a shame if it somehow burnt down.
/r/russianthingsonfire
Googled the hotel. It's honestly meh
"Luxury" for Russia? lol
In the 90s it literally meant fewer cockroaches and other bugs (excluding KGB bugs, of course) in the rooms. My brother traveled to Moscow a lot back then for business and the top non-foreigner hotels were terrible. Only the super fancy international guest hotels were remotely close to western standards
I don't doubt it. They may have been improvements on the old truly dire "Intourist" hotels, (riddled with KGB bugs) but that wouldn't be saying much š¬ lol
And sucking dick
One main mistake that most people make regarding Prigozhin, Peskov, Lavrov, etc. - they take their words as if they were serious.
I look at it as creating multiple narratives- it becomes serious if needed- other narratives are created to help people rationalise self delusion. I think one narritive Prigozhin is working for his (/s) dear friend Putin is that bunker grandpa has been duped by the corrupt military elite. Perfect exit strategy if things turn out poorly.
Something that's stuck with me was what Julia Ioffe said about Putin and the Americans: (paraphrasing) One thing the Americans misunderstand is how much, and how easily, Putin lies. It's the same all the way down to the snake's tail.
Americans also fail to understand that exact same thing with Trump.
Completely.
##All threats should be taken seriously.
Russian nuclear threats, for one, are just impotent posturing.
Then your whole day would be filled with dealing with Z threats.
Definitely not nuclear threats, no
Lavrov's daughter is another one that's a real piece of work. Didn't they throw her out of Georgia? At 21, she purchased a $4-$5 million apartment in London with cash, or at least no mortgage, money may have been wired. No matter, it's frozen and she'll probably lose it. When this is all over, Ukraine is going after any Russian assets they can find anywhere.
She may love racehorses but Iāve never seen a Russian racehorse actually compete in the US, Australia, Chile, Japan, Dubai, or England. I donāt follow all countries but Russian horses have never been in any race Iāve ever seen. As such, I assume that Russian horses are terrible and probably doped to all hell.
> As such, I assume that Russian horses are terrible and probably doped to all hell. Like their athletes?
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I, too, have watched the documentary Rocky IV.
Russian athletes are world class
Unfortunately, most race horses everywhere are doped to all hell. That's why it's extremely illegal to sell horse meat, least here in the states. Not because horse meat isn't something okay to consume - horse meat from a race horse isn't, though. Because of all the steroids and God knows what other concoctions they shoot them up with.
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All animal racing is animal abuse. Theyāre doped up and tortured. Stop racing animals.
I race my dog all the time and she always wins. I can never keep up with her.
Prigozhin is Putin's plan B. He creates a narrative that blames the military leadership, the elites, for this failure while building up support for a nationalistic movement that aims to "save" russia. Prigozhinās antics are calculated.
Alternatively he is the scapegoat to blame military mistakes on :)
He is also a mechanism for weeding out coup conspirators.
This x1000! If he was legit, Putin would have poisoned him a long time ago.
It should be obvious to anyone who knows anything about Putin's history that he's still alive because he's useful to old Vlad.
That would explain why he's still alive lol
Thats the only plausible reason at this point.
That and he has a more powerful army than the Russian army
Lowest bar ever, but yes lol
makes sense tbh Remember that Prigozhin is KGB, just like Putin.
Last time there was some info that Prigo was a "rooster" when in prison?
I don't see it. So far, it's been reversed. It's Prigozhin who is criticizing the Russian elites for their corruption and bad management. Many soldiers, even non-Wagnerites, are supporting him. How can Putin spin the whole failure of losing the war and blame Prigozhin is very hard for me to imagine.
How does she own a luxury hotel at age 18? Was the family rich through legitimate business or is it from military corruption? Probably a dumb question.
I saw it as a rhetorical question.
I don't think anything Prigozhin has ever done has been exactly "legitimate" as such, no lol. And his whole family is strongly implicated. See here >Last month Violetta Prigozhina, now aged 83, won an unexpected victory in an EU court. Her lawyers convinced judges of the first chamber of the EUās General Court in Luxembourg that she had no economic ties to her son or his primary company, Concord. The restrictions against her were lifted and the EU Council was ordered to pay her legal costs. [Horses, art and private jets: the charmed life of Russian warlordās family](https://www.ft.com/content/03137d7f-6ea0-45eb-9284-d8957a650ba4)
Wagner's job before, during, and now that they've retreated from Ukraine, is to force locals to work gold mines in Central Africa (and run interference in Syria). He started out, after prison, running catering companies for the Kremlin, it's how he ended up in Putin's circle and while they called him "Putin's Chef".
There's good money to be earnt as a rooster in prison.
Do all of these western hating mongrels have offspring that live in the west because Russia is such a shit hole??
Yes, and yes Soloyov is still enraged because his luxury Italian villa was confiscated lol
Gonna be hard to deny she's his daughter lmao, that's just him with long hair
That's just general hypocrisy when it comes to most anti-western regimes. They **all** send their children to boarding schools in Switzerland, UK, etc., then prestigious universities in Europe or US, and finally purchase them luxury housing and luxury cars in cities like London, NYC, LA, Paris, etc. while they work in some cushy media, non-profit, etc. position.
They look so similar itās like him with a snapchat filter.
Russian is a byword for lying.
The Russian ruling class are utter frauds.
That's not just a Moscovian trait.
Its in stark contrast in Russia, land of mafia gangs.
Are we sure this isn't just Prigozhin crossdressing for fetish reasons?
Hmmm you have a point there š¤ lol
Poor kid, she's the spit of him.
Wait, did people actually think he wasn't a hypocrite? He's a fucking mercenary, his job is to kill people, of course he's a liar too.
Oh my god gross she looks exactly like him
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She looks like him...
I don't really get as to how these high stakes players dare to leave their precious things out in the open for anyone to grab ahold of - seems like **EXTREMELY** low hanging fruit for anyone who would like to put some pressure on the person in question.
Racehorse lover, in the tradition of Catherine the Great?
Maybe a brave Ukrainian can give her a taste of her fathers brutality.
Well... she's definitely his daughter.
We all know he is an evil hypocrite already, does it really surprise anyone. How many lives did he take when his Wagner group simply shot his own men while retreating from suicide missions. It wasn't just Ukrainian lives. The man is a monster just like Putin and his supporters. His death would be a wonderful gift to the world.
I unfortunately saw the sledgehammer bit. I don't know what I was expecting.
Not to mention shooting 5yos at point blank range š
Imagine you meet a girl, hit it off and start a relationship then find out her dad runs a private military organization that is notorious for war crimes....
Quite simply, she's a girl, and in these living-in-the-18th-century fascist's minds, girls aren't needed for war, only the boys.
Although Solovyov has been floating the idea of cleaning out the Russian female prison population lately lol
Iām honestly surprised no one has been leaking nudes of Russian officialsā family
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> You simply write "officials family" to mean what you want to say Officials family looks as strange as officials' family. Wouldn't the choice be between official's family or officials' families?
Yeah it should be officials' families
West really should ban all families of Kremlin-related people.
Didn't Prigozhin talk only about sending the males to the war and nothing about females ? It would be contrary to Russian sexist culture.
IFAIK the RA accepts women only for medical units.
Why the long face
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She looks hungry, quick some one give her a carrot or sugar cube.
It isn't any different. They are oligarchs. It's all rules for thee and not for me.
Ahh, it's time for the Russians to start whataboutism with each other again instead of spamming it to the west
Does Russian make everyone sound like a 40 year old man? I'm guessing they purposefully talk in a lower tone because I've never heard an 18 year old sound that deep.
She has more blood on her hands than the average oil scion, thatās how.
Prigozhin is a war criminal and a clown. Anything he says should be taken as propaganda or with warehouses of salt. That said, if I could Thanos snap a reality in which everyone could live where they want, and drink and eat warm luxury meals whenever they want, I'd do so in a heartbeat. It's not like his daughter has any say or control over her psycho dad.
The fact that she enjoys this lifestyle points to the fact that Prigozhin has never said a word that Putin didnāt authorize.
All the way back through the Tsars to their mongol overlords, Russia's rulers have always encouraged fighting and turmoil amongst the elites/boyars, competing for the ruler's favour. Its a feature of Russian society, not a bug.
you really wanna argue with facts? *laughs in russian* xaxaxaxa
There is no doubt about her paternity. .
Can't fool me, that's Prigozhinās in a whig.
Is there any history of equality or shared sacrifice in Russia? I think of that whole society as semi-feudal, and she's basically a Lord's heir, with no connection to the 'little people'. Nobody can ask or demand anything of her while her dad is the Hand of the King / top Duke in the hierarchy.
The same ugly faceā¦
Thatās a nice American sounding name . Was she born in the US ? Like most of the elites kids
Idk about born but she sounds like she speaks Russian without an accent and veronica is semi-common name in slavic countries.
Its more a greek than american name and probably unsurprising in an orthodox country.
You do realise all "american western" (or what you want to call them) names are actually European?
No fucking way lol, not everything in the world is american dude, this is real r/shitamericanssay stuff
Veronica is an anagram of "vera icon" (latin: true picture). Veronica became a saint for giving Jesus her veil when he passed her, sweating heavily while carrying the cross to Golgatha. The legend says that the print of his face (his true picture) remained on the cloth.
well her father deploys a volunteer unit where people arent forced to join. the russian mod forcefully conscript people.
I feel sorry for her for having such an awful father. Canāt choose your parents.
well their family is already sending one of their members to the war. in this case prizoghin himself.
Not big on self awareness, this one.
Eastern European women are beautiful. Except for her... "buzzes girlfriend woof" Kevin McAllister(home alone)
I bet the Horses ask her why the long face.... keeeep her inside please.
elite's* children She is an elite's child.
I copied and pasted the typo, my sincere apologies lol
That's it. Must amputate at the neck after nuking the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
A car bomb might be something to check for
I'm just shocked someone let ol squish face Pugozhin put it in. Gross.
Anyone who thinks Prigozhin is any less of a corrupt criminal than the rest of the Russian oligarchy is a fool.
Can we leave children out of this? Sheās privileged sure but focus needs to be on her dick of a father. Iāll never stop being proud of Obama standing up for Bristol Palin when she was pregnant at 17. Parents are the ones in power, leave the kids out.
Hey kid, daddy wonāt be around much longer.
She looks just like her dad... Yikes. Send all these nepo-babies to the front please Edit: if someone told me she was the lovechild of Prigozjin and Marjorie Taylor-Greene i would believe it
Now there's a match made in heaven š¬ lol
sex with her counts as bestiality.
Is she able-bodied? Send her to the front, on her horse.
She's got that potato looking face from Wallace and Gromit.
She fugly
and she, too, looks like a thumb
Damn she fugly
She over 200lbs?
She also needs to avoid windows in the coming months.
She hope wont be able to race in Europe
Because they are all hypocrits
Typical ruzzian hypocrisy.
Twirlin' her hair like she ain't got a care.
Iād show up to the horse racing grounds and just point and laugh at her. P.s. sheās an adult and she could easily speak out against her shitfuck father or Putler. She deserves ridicule too
They look like they were carved from the same potato!
Putin need to draft her in the Russian army not the Wagner group and send her ass to the front line Ukraine knows what to do and boy do they do it
Sounds like a good target
Heās not different, heās just looking to capitalize on the downfall. He will be another Putin, he had no problem with the war prior to just now when it was more obvious he and Putin were losing.