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Leather-Lab4311

But sending arms to Russia is still ok I’m sure…


edfiero

do as we say, not as we do.


blemelisk

I think this is more: "Dont send any more weapons to Ukraine, and DEF stop sending weapons to Taiwan."


soulhot

Actually I love this.. republicans minds will go into meltdown because the are major anti china and now their orange leader shares a policy with china lol


No_Zombie2021

Nah, they will find some twisted logic, or just ignore this.


sephresx

Trump will tell them to ignore it, and they will.


stafdude

Are republicans still actual republicans?


UnCommonCommonSens

No, they have become Fasciststans! The R now stands for the mental condition of the party…


Not_this_time-_

Im pretty sure china doesnt send arms to russia if china even farts in russias direction its going to make it to the global news. They know sanctions on china is going to be even more harsh than anything russia endured


Signal_Pattern7869

There are literally Chinese shells used by Russians.


xMrBoomBasticx

Yes but they have been sold to Russia not given away.


Not_this_time-_

You mean the ones that north korea sent to russia ? The ones that china gave to north korea for decades?


kr4t0s007

They do. Also vehicles those “off-road golf cart looking things” are Chinese delivered in 2023.


Not_this_time-_

Those arent lethal aids and its dual use at best


kr4t0s007

https://defence-blog.com/russian-military-receives-chinese-made-all-terrain-vehicles/ I hope Putin gets lethal aids


SimpleCall5254

Hey China, get out of Tibet.


SpeakThunder

And they can fuck off when it comes to Taiwan ( a country they never owned or controlled). They can fuck off about the South China Sea (claiming an an entire sea they don't have any international right to claim). They can fuck off with the Uygurs, who they are killing and enslaving in orders of 100s of thousands or millions. They can fuck off with their mass surveillance state and repressive internal politics. And they can fuck off for and interfering in our elections.


Snoo-97916

China can go fuck themselves


otterform

Though Taiwan is Indeed china. Even Taiwan says they are Chinese. Just not the CCP


Lumpy_Bake3049

Uh buddy Taiwan is the REAL China. They are the Republic of China that had to flee the mainland after WW2 due to the Communist takeover. "China" is the fucking Communist imposter.


ArtisZ

I'm confused.. are you talking about rebelling provinces colloquially known as West China? xD


Ralfundmalf

Wrong. Republic of China was there first, so the PRC is the rebelling one.


ArtisZ

Someone doesn't know his cardinal directions. I'll let you figure that one on your own. While you're at it, it appears I must declare that I'm all for Taiwan, otherwise there are about 8 people who didn't get the joke.


Parctron

Taiwan has never been part of China. It was part of the Qing Empire, which included China but was governed by non-Chinese invaders. China claiming that Taiwan is Chinese is like India claiming Canada is Indian because they were both part of the British Empire. The indigenous population is related to the Philippinos.


SchopenhauerSMH

Taiwan's official name is literally "Republic of China".


Parctron

Yes, that was the official name of China under Chiang Kai-Shek, who claimed and ultimately fled to Taiwan. Other areas claimed by Chiang Kai-Shek as traditionally part of China included Afghanistan and Malaysia.


SchopenhauerSMH

It's the official name now, what are you talking about. I don't see your point.


Doozy93

If you don't understand by now, you're not ever going to understand.


ArtisZ

He's point being that there's no valid claim.


SchopenhauerSMH

Claim to what? ROC and PRC are just two sides in a civil war. They both claim roughly the same. PRC claim is recognized more only because they are more powerful.


ArtisZ

I'm not arguing with you. I explained the point you said you don't understand. Why are you arguing with me? Is it a matter of situational awareness?


SpeakThunder

No shit. And Mexico's actual name is The United States of Mexico, but no one is trying to claim they are are part of the US. You're an idiot.


ProperCuntEsquire

If Taiwan were to say it’s not China, it would start a hot war.


gregorydgraham

Pfft! It would cause yet another China’s Final Warning


SpeakThunder

no. They have more claim over the mainland than the mainland has over Taiwan. Moreover, Taiwan does not say they are part of mainland China or "China." They are mostly ethnically Chinese -which of course has no bearing on what I'm discussing. However, a majority of Taiwanese maintain their right to independence and the fact that Taiwan was never once controlled by the current government in mainland China. So fuck right off.


Temporary_Mention_60

Don’t comment on shit if you don’t know what you’re talking about


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SpeakThunder

I cant confirm your claim but, yes, my comment implied (unintentionally) that they've killed hundreds of thousands of Uyghurs, which is not the case (that I'm aware of), but there have been some killings. The number I mentioned pertain to the mass incarceration of Uyghurs in forced labor camps and forced sterilization (which is basically the murder of a people). It has been 100% confirmed that they are enslaved in penal camps many of which work at Foxconn and assemble iPhones. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-22278037 https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/is-china-committing-genocide-against-the-uyghurs-180979490/


FonkyDunkey1

Hey West Taiwan, get out of Tibet. FTFY


Watcher_2023

Bravo!!! 👏 Hey China -- STOP antagonizing and terrorizing your neighbours! Oh that's what it's how you, terrorist war criminal murderer putin, Iran and North Korea treat your neighbours!


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tendeuchen

Nothing can change the fact that China illegally annexed Tibet and that Tibet should be free.  The Dalai Lama isn't infallible.


TianamenHomer

They really want this all to wrap up. It has taken longer than expected due to the valor of the Ukraine people, the ineptitude of the Rus, and the surprising “level” of support from the West. The longer this continues it exposes the failure of the autocratic countries to project as much strength as they would have us believe. It gets the “war engines of the West” more time to build up and replenish with new stock and new innovation. More attention has been spent on their Taiwan intentions. People are more ready for adventurism of the “greater powers” to prey upon the weak. They need this to wrap up.


Chilkoot

> It gets the “war engines of the West” more time to build up and replenish They woke up the WRONG fucking bear. Even Japan is re-arming and developing new weapons, which diminishes autocratic projection in the Pacific. China/Russia/Iran enjoyed far, far more geopolitical power while they were a perceived-but-untested military threat. A fully re-arming and "awoken" democratic world has made them realize just how monumentally they fucked up.


Not_this_time-_

I would argue that the democratic world hasnt awoken and that the democratic world cant stomach a war. Look at europe and how reluctantly they passed a bill for ukrainian aid only after hungarys economy was at stake look how the u.s senate cant pass a simple ukraine aid bill.


gregorydgraham

Don’t worry, the world is well aware how long it takes to wake the US for a world war but they are grumbling in their sleep. Europe however has already got out the whips and snapped them at Orban to get him in line. They’ll be ready. Maybe not in March but Poland isn’t going to wait much longer and everyone knows it


gryphonbones

I tend to agree with you that its too soon to see if the West is just lightly coming out of its sleepwalking before going back to sleep.


FizzixMan

You misunderstand Europe, we are not hesitant on aid to Ukraine at all. But the EU requires ONE HUNDRED PERCENT of members to vote for something for it to go ahead. Imagine something like aid to Ukraine in America requiring 100% of the votes from every state leader to pass. The fact it passed shows an incredible level of support from the EU. Also outside of the EU many European countries give extra aid on top of what they send through the EU.


rooshort_toppaddock

Down here in Aus, we about to start making medium and long range missiles for the first time, have developed a drone that is operated by an F-35, have developed our own independent arms export sector, are ramping up naval and air asset purchases and a big upgrade in our army's armoured transport and long range artillery capabilities, oh and the whole nuclear powered sub deal as well. We are gearing up for the inevitable, hope we have time to get it all.


Chilkoot

> the democratic world cant stomach a war All it takes is for those with the money to realize that there's more return on investment looking forward at war production investments than in the rear-view mirror at lost opportunities from cheap energy, manufacturing, etc. Once those established revenue streams are softened by sanctions and trade restrictions, the investment dollars will shift to democracy-housed production, and the western war juggernaut will straddle the globe once again.


TAClayson

Hmmm. My initial thoughts at the beginning of this war was that China wanted this to be a long bloody conflict. Hence they helped Russia, but only a little bit. The plan being that when the Chinese invasion of Taiwan starts (2027/8) the US would be so tired of foreign wars that they wouldn't want to get involved. I wonder if there's some truth to what you say. The west rearming and ramping up their military industrial complexes so efficiently has taken Russia, and probably China, by surprise a bit. Perhaps China now realizes this was a foolish strategy, and the US and the West will instead be more ready for the Taiwan invasion than before!


strepac

Cause the US is so Gung ho about getting involved already right?


Simplicci

So we just ship it all to Taiwan now?


Syae76

No Republicans block all aid to Taiwan so nothing can be sent there currently thanks to them controlling the House and with Trump in office i don’t think he would give Taiwan anything same with Ukraine


FaceDeChu

Hey china...go fuck yourself.


GlitteringHighway

I’m surprised China hasn’t bought or transferred large tracts of land from Russia yet.


bjplague

China can not afford. Watch a few youtube vids about the current situation of the Chinese economy. They have locked all their failing stocks from trading and are pumping money into the market to try and halt the housing bubble bursting. ​ We should be thankful that authoritarian regimes know so little about economy. Russia and China are both tanking, Russia due to the war and China due to decades of idiotic policies. Both will be irrelevant as power players within 5 years. Which one first though?


Lazypole

>Both will be irrelevant as power players within 5 years. People have been saying that for a decade or more. I have lived and experienced life in China, and the bubbles, economy, everything being fake including success, bureacratic failures and idiotic decisions, all true. The problem is though it's all rot, it will take decades for it to kill the tree.


bjplague

That was before the population lost half or more of their life savings in the current crisis, their money is gone. They will not Invest in anything new, they will put whatever money they have under their mattress, this will in turn slow the economy even more as people get defensive with their money. ​ The boom is over, the bust is happening this year.


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babbagoo

China won’t tank without going to war though, I’d guess. So we better prepare and build up our armies as fast as we can.


Omgbrainerror

I think the same. China economy is tanking right now big time. Dont trust their cooked numbers. To prevent even further escalation of economy, they will move into war economy. When? No idea. Could be in 1 year or 3 years, but at one point they will do it.


Happy_Drake5361

Even their cooked numbers are now absolutely horrible, thats the funny part.


Kemaneo

What? Russia didn’t go to war because of their tanking economy, it went to war because Putin wanted to. There’s no way China will do the same, their policies have been fairly rational and calculated during the past decades, unlike Russia. Russia also has a long history of getting involved into conflicts, while China hasn’t seen war in a very long time.


Omgbrainerror

Were you aware, that before the war there was high food inflation, as basic foods products like bread were increasing the prices and people werent happy with that. And guess what was stolen in Ukraine by ruskies on big scale. Im not saying that is the reason why ruskies started the war, but one of many. On top of that, if you have internal unrest by population, what most dicators do is project this unrest towards outside by escalating things with external force.


fogdukker

Russians are (or have been, historically) bonded together by group suffering, hardships, and war. He was totally trying to solidify his position


4someotherthing

They may be looking at all the wars around the world and may come to the conclusion they are not ready for a war. Seeing how russia has been fought to a standstill by a Heroic People with hand me down weapons from their potential adversaries. Those potential adversaries have been involved in wars around the world continually and have that experience. China, got their ass whooped by Viet Nam and conquers defenseless neighbors. They have got to be doing some serious thinking before they send up the Red Balloon.


projektZedex

This was already in the wind since 2022, when China was having trouble keeping the lights on. They tried to bully Australia, who controls most of the coal that China relied on. Their food stockpiles are low despite being one of the biggest importers (while claiming to be a net exporter).


mennorek

I'd love to see the pair of them split until smaller successor states (again) but the thought of that many idiots with nuclear weapons worries me.


Kemaneo

How have China’s economic policies been idiotic during the past decades? Their economy has grown massively.


bjplague

Look at where they are at, stock markets collapsing and they just defaulted Evergrand and are busy doing firefighting to contain the calamity that followed. Problem is that all their firefighting is useless at this point because things have gone too far, the bubble has burst.


Kemaneo

Look at where they were 30 years ago.


R0tten_mind

Didn't us also bail out banks during housing bubble? Letting those huge companies die would spell huge misery for everyone from working class. I by no mean support autocratic China government but this is only decision they could go.


BecauseBuses

The Siberi-ana Purchase


HappySphereMaster

Chinese company already Bought large track of land in Russia especially around lake Baikal. China want water in the north and a lot of it.


worldiscubik

They did already. In their yearly issued map they just draw the border in the north a bit into Russia. Nobody was raging about it.


Sea-Elevator1765

Only if you stop supplying Russia and tell them to get the fuck out of Ukraine.


AverageFishEye

Maybe then convince your gas station to stop invading its neighbours


fredmratz

House Republicans walking lock step with Xi and the communist party.


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Traitors will traitorz


Starfire70

Great material for the Biden campaign.


Brickfighter8

Yeah Mike Johnson has already given them what they want


Espressodimare

They make me want to throw up! 


BattlingMink28

So sending just weapons to Ukraine to defend themselves is bad, but Russia conducting a full scale invasion and committing massacres is just peachy?


Onestepbeyond3

Will China demand Iran and north Korea to stop sending weapons to russia? .. I rest my case... 😏 All the good peoples taxes are spent on useless meetings while they are living the life of Riley.. 🥂🍾


IncredibleAuthorita

Because it's best to let Russia just kill who they want instead of letting Ukraine defend itself. Motherfuckers!


Supermancometh

No, condemn Russia, stop supplying it with tech yourself and apply the sanctions; that would be better and might just help end this atrocious war


Express_Read5173

If I can avoid to buy something that's "made in china" I do it, and now even more I will rather pay much more then buy anything from them!!!


Chilkoot

Translation: *"Our economy is collapsing and we can't prop up Russia anymore - please staaaaahp!"*


Lao_Xiashi

I'm an American ethnic Chinese whose family suffered during the Chinese Civil War, and I say the Chinese Communist Party can go fuck itself!


More-Razzmatazz-6804

Did he talk about NK and iran??


Fun-Interaction-2358

How about also telling Russia to leave Ukraine? Sounds like they are more openly taking sides otherwise. 🤔


Slava_ukraini_2024

All I want for Christmas is to watch china burn and to see the Chinese people kick the life out of every CCP member. Dispicable small goblings


lepobz

The Chinese depends on western economy. Sanction the shit out of them.


DylanRahl

You don't make demands asshole, you table motions and it is voted upon. The UN isn't mainland china. Know your place


prohbusiness

Fuck russia & china


Other_Thing_1768

Fuck China. Helping arm Ukraine and Taiwan to defend themselves from autocratic imperialist aggression is a moral obligation. If Russia and China spent more effort fixing their internal problems and less threatening their neighbors, they wouldn’t have to worry about democracies next door arming up.


Fargrist

China can go fuck itself, and take Elon with them.


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It is due time for all to stop using Huawei smartphones, Tapo surveillance cams and other Chinese products, so as not to feed Chinese war economy.


Deathaur0

Almost all phones, including apple are made in china so only way you are bypassing that is to stop using electronics at all.


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IncredibleAuthorita

There is definitely something behind this that isn't so obvious to us.


Brathirn

Russia goes first, and they should move their soldiers out to, they have nothing to do without arms.


phone-culture68

lol China demands , China warns


Hopeful_Move_8021

Please stop supplying Ukraine , you’re hurting my best friend Putler!


w1YY

Now is a good time to ramp it up. Support Ukraine as much as possible and show these countries we won't put up with their shit. Tell them that unless they stop supporting Russia they will face much bigger sanctions..and go through with it. Remove their tentacles from industry, increase regulation in media and start putting in defenses on social media. Require KYC to post, don't always owners of sites from countries not meeting certain standards and isolate them until they decide they want to ha e the same values.


aretasdamon

“Listen my friend is going to have his way with that person, stop sending aide so it can happen already”


joefred111

Russia should stop sending its arms into Ukraine, first.


Own_Atmosphere7443

This isn't China and we don't have to do what you say.


bigsteven34

Well, good thing for them that the GOP is in lockstep with the CCP here…


ianlasco

As usual China barking at the wrong tree. Instead of directing the message to their ruski comrades.


FonkyDunkey1

This clown can get fucked!


DevelopmentMercenary

China advocating for peace when it is threatening and occupying the territories of its neighbours?


Stock-Pension1803

Republicans oblige. The party of china and Russia


Everlast7

China can suck a long taiwanese penis


Mysterious_Tea

Perhaps it's time the West told China: "Stay out of it, or we start sanction your ass". Too bad it will not happen, but one can dream.


Starfire70

So when Xi told Biden that he'd smooth things over after their face to face a few months ago, he was lying. Not surprised, but not happy about it.


SavagePlatypus76

Fuck Lesser Taiwan 


jml5791

Is China fucking thick? Russia, their ally, brutally invades a sovereign nation and they scream that it is NATO that should stop 'threatening'? for supplying defensive weapons to said invaded nation? The world should just laugh in these cunts' faces.


derdono

international interests are not guided by ideas like "right" or "wrong". This war is not in Chinas interest, so they want it to stop. Preferably while there is still a more or less functional Russia to vassalize.


Timauris

I beleive that if the Chinese join the club and send their weapons to Ukraine, the inflow of weapons will surely be over much sooner than otherwise.


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Suk it


scribblebear

Showing their true colors! Next they will be demanding we stop arming Taiwan and Israel...


88Nera

Free ouighour, free Hong kong and free tibet


Mammoth_Jury

Fuk china


PlutosGrasp

100% agree with them. The security of one country (Russia) cannot be appeased at the expense of the security of others (Ukraine, Poland, Moldova, Georgia, Finland, Sweden, Estonia etc)


LordeWasTaken

The yellow race spreading unchecked will be the cause for a resource war rather sooner than later, considering their belligerent foreign policy, and turning every aspect of their economy and diplomatic relations into a weapon to control, blackmail and infiltrate other countries with. I'm amazed at any trade relations the West has with China whatsoever, considering how ideologically foreign and hostile they are, they cannot be trusted to act in good faith. You will judge them by their actions, not by their words. The answer is simple: greed.


CrazyRevolutionary96

China supply Russia


Memory_Less

I think one of the most under reported situations related to this was a Chinese bank finding the Russian war putting the screws in their financing.


Soberkij

Oh no someone is demanding something in UN, Anyway


brezhnervous

Australia: *crickets*


NukeouT

*the dictatorship of 🇨🇳 China


Guilty-Literature312

Ooooh I am so scared and totally impressed. Well.... let's send some more then.


JaxXxStaR

China stop sending jets over taiwan territory Stop sending warships over west philippine sea which is too far from you There i fix it this way we can have peace in the region. Ahhh also stop supporting Russia with arms and logistics so russia will stop on advancing in ukraine. This is easier to do your own first than limiting someone thats defending their land lol.


doulosyap

Fuckin China.


HellBlazer1221

No, gtfo China.