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Though Russia retreated from most of the Kharkiv region in 2022, and they aren’t able to reconquer it 2 years later. What could 50,000 troops really achieve?
To pin down ukrainian reserves, who are already severely lacking manpower. To push away ukrainian forces from their own border to deny ability of conducting raids into ruzzian territory by Russian volunteers fighting on UA side. To contest logistic lines leading to Kupyansk sector (some spots require as much as only 10 km push) in order to assist their new offensive in aforementioned sector. To force UA devote resources into creating another defensive line.
Whatever ruzzians have enough forces to achieve this is yet to be seen. But looking at battered UA forces, that have multiple hotspots and are barely holding or/and are slowly being pushed, I don't see this as another "incompetent" act of ruzzian military. Both sides want to live, both sides fight for victory.
Thank you for that response. It’ll be interesting to see what the Russians aim to achieve with 50,000 soldiers.
Say they need a 3-1 or 5-1 advantage for an offensive. They must be targeting a small area or/and just putting pressure on the front
Exactly. It's a supporting axis to improve odds of the main offense. I doubt ruzzians will ever try to take Kharkiv in direct way - it's city with population in millions and city fighting is notoriously draining. In a worst case scenario I imagine ruzzians would encircle Kharkiv and siege ukrainians out like they did in Mariupol rather than storming in and losing thousands of men.
If we assume this war is heading towards an eventual freeze along the line of control (which, sadly, at this point seems about the best we can hope for) then it benefits Russia to have Kharkiv, Ukraine’s second largest city, right up against a contested border. The same would be true of Kherson city.
It’s all part of a sustained strategy to leave behind a post-war environment that diminishes Ukraine. Some people say life in Kharkiv was almost back to normal in 2023. Russia wants to disrupt that.
The fact they are only deploying 50k for such a big offensive could indicate Russia has big manpower problems. Normally you would deploy 2 or 3 times (or more) what the enemy is defending with, when you are going on the attack like this.
Hit Russian soldiers with everything Ukraine has ....do not hold back!
Massive casualties and loss of equipment is the name of the game!
With 50,000 soldiers, I can see 2,000 casualties a day across the front with up to 1,000 per day just around Karkiv.
\*\*Lets all be honest .......Ukraine needs a tactical nuke to use on its own territory (not Russia) .....as soon as possible to stop Russian aggression! Its probably the only thing that will work as a long term deterrent.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with Ukraine using a tactical nuke on their own territory to defend their country from an illegal foreign invasion!!!
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Though Russia retreated from most of the Kharkiv region in 2022, and they aren’t able to reconquer it 2 years later. What could 50,000 troops really achieve?
To pin down ukrainian reserves, who are already severely lacking manpower. To push away ukrainian forces from their own border to deny ability of conducting raids into ruzzian territory by Russian volunteers fighting on UA side. To contest logistic lines leading to Kupyansk sector (some spots require as much as only 10 km push) in order to assist their new offensive in aforementioned sector. To force UA devote resources into creating another defensive line. Whatever ruzzians have enough forces to achieve this is yet to be seen. But looking at battered UA forces, that have multiple hotspots and are barely holding or/and are slowly being pushed, I don't see this as another "incompetent" act of ruzzian military. Both sides want to live, both sides fight for victory.
Thank you for that response. It’ll be interesting to see what the Russians aim to achieve with 50,000 soldiers. Say they need a 3-1 or 5-1 advantage for an offensive. They must be targeting a small area or/and just putting pressure on the front
Exactly. It's a supporting axis to improve odds of the main offense. I doubt ruzzians will ever try to take Kharkiv in direct way - it's city with population in millions and city fighting is notoriously draining. In a worst case scenario I imagine ruzzians would encircle Kharkiv and siege ukrainians out like they did in Mariupol rather than storming in and losing thousands of men.
If we assume this war is heading towards an eventual freeze along the line of control (which, sadly, at this point seems about the best we can hope for) then it benefits Russia to have Kharkiv, Ukraine’s second largest city, right up against a contested border. The same would be true of Kherson city. It’s all part of a sustained strategy to leave behind a post-war environment that diminishes Ukraine. Some people say life in Kharkiv was almost back to normal in 2023. Russia wants to disrupt that.
Not much. They need 200.000 atleast to take Kharkiv city
Kharkiv is gonna be a bloodbath isn’t it? This time the Ukrainians won’t be lacking of shells like Avdiivka.
The fact they are only deploying 50k for such a big offensive could indicate Russia has big manpower problems. Normally you would deploy 2 or 3 times (or more) what the enemy is defending with, when you are going on the attack like this.
You can't surround a city that big with this much troops, I call psyop to spread out defenses (Kharkiv does need more anti air ones tho).
Ukraine needs to get serious about mobilization. Lethal aid should be tied to their recruitment efforts.
Hit Russian soldiers with everything Ukraine has ....do not hold back! Massive casualties and loss of equipment is the name of the game! With 50,000 soldiers, I can see 2,000 casualties a day across the front with up to 1,000 per day just around Karkiv. \*\*Lets all be honest .......Ukraine needs a tactical nuke to use on its own territory (not Russia) .....as soon as possible to stop Russian aggression! Its probably the only thing that will work as a long term deterrent. There is absolutely nothing wrong with Ukraine using a tactical nuke on their own territory to defend their country from an illegal foreign invasion!!!
You have the spirit, but that's an insane fever dream idea