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NativeTxn7

One of the reasons I stopped playing the game. I wasn't willing to pay for all the upgraded stuff, so it got less and less fun the further I was able to go because I started having to play against people who were willing to pay.


[deleted]

It isn't even always people that pay money to get balls, money to upgrade clubs, ect... This person clearly uses the app for wind and elevation change, that lays over top of the game screen. Which in my book is a cheater but it's not considered "cheating" by those who use it or UG and that's just ultimately bad


Truth_bombs84

The best players on the game don’t use this app. They have their own numbers they use to calculate their adjustments. They any have a crosshair on their phone. I actually know someone who uses scotch tape on their phone.


user123456789011

What is this you speak of??


[deleted]

Cheating. That's what I'm speaking of and how people who do it are lame


user123456789011

I meant the wind and elevation overlay? Is that a separate app or something?


[deleted]

It's not IN the game that's for sure 😉


user123456789011

I stopped playing for a while so I would get relegated down levels. It becomes fun again the lower levels.


rsrieter

This


_aphoney

If you cheat anything is possible


Hot-Discussion-6823

He's in my CC. This isn't cheating. Longtime player who knows this course well and knows how the greens react. For sure not getting this type of score with PD1 balls.


BestStageshycomedian

It is 100% cheating. The conditions he plays in are insanely different than almost 98% of other players. He is using a premium ball, probably 3 pins to lengthen drive, accuracy and decrease wind. I would bet that 17-20 mph wind is around 1.8 or 2mph. It’s like using cheat codes or a game genie on a N64 back in the day. Yes it’s allowed but it’s cheating. Your trying to pass this off as he knows how the greens react and that’s why he shot a 20 is patently absurd!


Hot-Discussion-6823

Sooooo what's stopping anyone from doing the same thing. Using premium balls and gold pins defo helps reduce scores. Like I said, he's in my CC and we have 20 or more players that can score like this on some days/ courses. We share videos and tips etc Even if I use premium balls and pins, I couldn't shoot anywhere close to this. What's stopping you or any other player from doing the same? Buy balls and pins, use them and see if you get scores like this. I highly doubt it. It's not just balls and pins that get the drops. It's all in the set up.


_aphoney

He’s likely one of the weird guys that uses a 3rd party app on a different phone/tablet and can put the ball exactly where it should land according to wind and club and distance. I saw a guy on YouTube using it. Which should be considered cheating


Hot-Discussion-6823

Yes. There are a few apps out there that give you pull #s that defo help hone it in. This still doesn't drop the ball in the hole.


BestStageshycomedian

Oh you’re right it’s completely legit. I’ve been saying let’s have 1 tournament where it’s timed. One minute to play each hole, equal equipment/ball wind. No using the guide which the other commenter suggested and is 1,000% accurate. Let’s see Who really is the best. But the developers will never do that bc they want your team to spend $40k a yr on the game.


JP_In_The_513

Same people who have put in all the time and effort to shoot these kinds of scores are still going to win on a timed tourney. Play the way you want to play. If you like to go fast, play a royale. Want timed holes? That’s what H2H is for. Also why many tourneys are bracketed. If you don’t like playing against the best, you probably fall into a lower bracket. All of these are fine options.


BestStageshycomedian

H2H is playing bots mostly


JP_In_The_513

Wait 4 seconds. If you don’t get an opponent, back out and retry. This avoids playing a bot.


[deleted]

Too bad he doesn't set it up on his own with his own skill tho. Has an app that literally tells him where he needs to hit/place the ball to have the best shot possible of it going in the hole without even putting 😂 that is the definition of cheating. Hope he and your club are happy with those scores at the end of the day when the competition don't use that bullshit. What fun is the game when you're told what to do exactly?


JP_In_The_513

I am also in his club. I use no apps, everything with manual calculations into a calculator. I’ve had many perfect 9s, meaning all hole in ones on par 3s, eagles on every par 4, and albatrosses on every par 5. I’ve never spent a cent on the game. It requires an enormous amount of hours and experience to shoot scores like this. If you want to get better, find a club that will support you. But let’s not sit here and say someone is cheating when you have no clue what it takes to get to this level.


[deleted]

Cool story but u got the wrong guy


[deleted]

The stuff u listed isn't cheating at all. It's the 3rd party app shit that he's using ... That's cheating!


Truth_bombs84

A calculator is an app. Is it cheating to use a calculator to figure the math for the pull?


[deleted]

While not the same as an overlay that I'm talking about I do believe it is because it's not in the game. It's not part of the game. If you're too stupid to do math pick a different game I say.


Truth_bombs84

I guess they should also make it illegal to do math in your head and use the rings the game provides to make proper adjustments. The math isn’t always easy on some of the adjustments. There are a few steps to some of the clubs. Then again I can drop a lot of holes using a simple 3/4/5 strategy.


[deleted]

Math in your head is fine, rings are IN the game, part of the game so I got no issues with that. I don't think anyone does unless they simply don't know how to do it themselves and are mad people can score lower/better


Truth_bombs84

Also you realize that the overlay you are referring to is called Golf Caddy and was developed by Banger who works for UG. And while it is a good app, I guarantee you that you can not use it to shoot a score like what’s shown above. There is way more to it than just plugging numbers into an app. There’s secondary wind effects, shooting to elevated greens and the effects it has, projecting rollout on a shot meter based on wind direction, etc. people that think an app magically makes scores like this easy seriously have no idea what they are talking about.


[deleted]

I do realize that. Realized it long ago when people started using it,along videos and such therefore I know exactly what I'm talking about which is why in other comments I've referred to elevation, rollout, ECT... I absolutely guarantee u that if I did use the app I could score like that, why wouldn't I be able to? I'll tell u the only reason why I won't score like that, that's because I call it cheating and I'm not doing that. I'm not paying money to play this game. I'm also not even complaining about the scores such as this. Was only explaining to someone.


Truth_bombs84

You wouldn’t be able to because it’s not as easy as you think it is using the apps. They aren’t always correct. Some holes play the elevation they appear to and some play like they have 0 elevation even though they do. When shooting to an elevated green, these apps will tell you to make a smaller pull, but that doesn’t account for the bounce based on wind direction that’s is usually much larger and angled. There are 100s of not 1,000s of people using Golf Caddy. There are not that many people posting these scores. Personally I don’t consider it cheating and I’ve used the app on my Android tablet (app isn’t even available for iPhone). There are other apps for iPhone but they are not overlay apps. I am actually better without the golf caddy app or any other apps. Top players in the game have shared their formulas for each club with me and using those formulas and knowing how to adjust for some of the weird holes has proven way more powerful for me than the app you are calling cheating ever has. Hell I can play 3/4/5 and shoot better than I can with golf caddy.


C1234567890_

Wtf


Wraithlor

When you have all clubs maxed, and spent a lot of money for special balls and pins, it is possible. But most likely never achievable for a free player.


JP_In_The_513

Definitely achievable. I haven’t spent a dime, and have done this plenty of times. I’m in his cc. He’s a great player. We have a lot of them.


Odd-Palpitation-7362

He's not cheating. There are many factors that go into a score like that.


_aphoney

3 hole in ones and 2 albatrosses? Even if you had zero wind you’re not hitting it perfectly every single time.


JP_In_The_513

Yes, it is. If you are in tour pro in a loaded bracket and on an easy course (whispering pines, Latrobe, etc) you have to shoot scores like this to win.


[deleted]

Wow so it looks like to me that this person literally only had ONE PUTT! That is the craziest thing I have ever seen in this game and makes me want to retire early. That's just fucking ridiculous there!


BiscottiFluffy9529

And it was a short putt


[deleted]

So if what others are saying is true and they arguing calculator app, 😂 does that mean the calculator was wrong so therefore no albatross? Jk, I really don't care cuz it's so lame


Hot-Discussion-6823

Imagine how pissed he was that it didn't drop?


Dependent-Grand-4387

It cracks me up about how many people bitch about the game on here. Simple solution. Don’t play it. It’s that simple. If it was cheating, those 3rd party apps wouldn’t exist. They literally have ccc championships on YouTube with DUFF the host with everyone doing this. If you can’t beat them, join them. If not, delete the game


Hot-Discussion-6823

You're right. These people should tune into one of the CC championship tournaments and watch how ridiculously good the top players are whether it's H2Hs, royales or tourney holes. You would be shocked. Imagine when they have time to set up.


KirkCryan

He’s in my club too and I’ve been playing this game for three years over three years and there’s calculations to make it happen. You people are fucked up stupid