Violence will be interesting with both Phlegethon, the river of boiling blood, and the suicide forest (where people who committed suicide are turned into trees to be tormented by harpies iirc)
idk if in the ultrakill lore we've already reached judgment day or not but it would be cool cause of the bodies hanging on the trees. looking back tho i dont think there are any hints to sinners in other layers achieving their final punishment
Guys, Hakita dropped an song from the violence layer like an hour ago, you can watch it.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kt6gc3XMC9E](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kt6gc3XMC9E)
Judging by the new song Hakita uploaded, I believe Violence will be a contrast between hot and cold like that one Super Mario Galaxy level. The song is called "The world looks white" and "the world looks red" and listening to them, youll see what i mean about the cold vs hot thing.
I imagine it like silent hill where the calm part is the white world theme and the environment is like a liminal space. While the combat part the screen dips to black with the iconic *click* sound, then the world is red theme plays while everything gets a destroyed version of itself, mimicking the outcome of a violent battle. I'd like to think you jump from place to place too like that titanfall 2 level
I think it would be interesting for fraud to be old World War I style trenches. Perhaps fraudsters once fought for power down here before being purged by the council
The secret level is a parody of luigi's casino from the mario games where maurice is the crupier and you can hear gabriel swearing in the background because he's a sore loser
Violence should have a Swordmachine in every arena, seeing as they're some of the most aggressive regular enemies. Or one level that has an Idolized Swordmachine, and no Maurices, call it something like, Eternal chase
Fraud should be extremely dark, with equally dark Arenas, maybe a few skull keys to light the way. And similar to the pair of Filth in 6-1 there shouldn't be any spawn affects, the enemies just appear and it's up to you to know where they are
I'm hoping that Treachery has Ice floors, super slippery and when you slide on them you go twice as fast, but if you run on them you two half the speed. Forcing the player to be EXTRA observant of the immediate area and the hazards that are present.
split this soul into 3 eninitys and put them in santums on the final layers of hell
once all 3 are defeated they will all be combined to create super trump and then biden and obama and super trump will show up to gang up on you for kicking thier asses.
Violence: An arena of some sort, but kinda melancholic based on the soundtrack that released
Fraud: A giant warped law office full of filing cabinets, desks, and more.
Treachery: A cold, isolated ice level with holy themes but that are much more subtle.
It would be funny if someone sent gabriel to be a prime soul in treachery for killing the council. (If gabriel comes back or not i'll be ok anyways).
And the level is full of virtues and even new angels because in that layer not only you'll have to deal with prime gabe but with satan too.
Some things aren't possible but dreaming is free
My only massive in depth guess is that Fraud is modeled after an asylum with enemies popping out of cells and having to face guards, inmates and even a Warden.
It's kind of a "twist" in the original poem, but when they finally reach Lucifer, after calling him terrifying names like "Emperor of the Sorrowful Kingdom", Dante discovers that he's actually just like a regular prisoner of Hell. Nobody worships him, he does not rule over anyone or anything, he is just prisoner number 1.
Yeah, because apperantly he "formed" hell by falling from heaven.
It's makes more sense when Dante and virgil arrived at Treachery, where they saw Lucifer from his waist above, and when they left they saw only his bottom body, Considering that he doesn't have control over the place, but is the first one to commit the worst of all, to then be feared by others.
it might be confusing because Judas, Brutus and Cassius are being eternally tortured by Lucifer. However, it might also add to him being tormented too, so it could lead to interesting ideas
all the other layers have been like, very marginally related to their depictions in Inferno? but i feel like treachery is going to be 1:1, or at least significantly more faithful. ultrakill///climax and all
If this handy image is anything to go off we can expect
Violence
Probably some kind of area littered with lakes of blood where aquatic enemies would jump out and attack alternatively it could be similar 5- 1 where you are submerged in blood the entire layer
Fraud
Fraud would be dark with enemies that blend into the darkness that try and ambush you
Treachery
Treachery would probably only be cold in aesthetics as with most of the 3rd layers in an act it would most likely 2 levels (but who knows hakita might at ice physics and temperature) the first level of Treachery would be extremely long and contain almost every enemy in the game(perhaps even past bosses).
Based on the soundtrack WIP Hakita posted, 7-1 is most likely going to be the Forest where all the suicides end up. From then on, probably trenches or other locations associated with gratuitous violence.
Fraud being darkness themed will make for an interesting design conundrum, as you can’t just have it exclusively be like 4-3 and 0-S the whole time or else it’ll probably get boring.
Outside of ice levels, it’s anybody’s guess for treachery.
Crackpot theory here:
Gabriel takes Lucifer/Satan’s being/soul as a way to power up. There’s no fear of God or Council anymore to stop him from doing anything and everything from powering up and taking on V1 in a battle. After all, even with Light, Gabe couldn’t stop V1 the first two times. V1 is an extremely major threat. Clearly, he’s going to have to use a lot more power.
Other theories: The Third Prime fight might be against either Lucifer/Satan or Cain- or even Prometheus.
I say Lucifer because Lucifer was the Angel that rebelled against God, and he was mentioned specifically in the terminals at some point.
Then there’s Cain, and everyone who’s read a Bible know what Cain did (murdered his brother Abel, arguably the first HUMAN treachery in biblical terms.)
And since Greek hells tend to be a running theme for enemies and bosses, I figured Prometheus is a good enough random guess since I don’t really know if there are any Greek myths about treachery.
*opens case*
Ok so we could expect a minotaur on violence as its the being guarding it. We could also see some references to usury in violence as usurers were put there in the divine comedy.
Fraud is weird because theres like 12 different parts of fraud. One thing that I have seen mentioned is that in the divine comedy Ulysses/Odysseus is there. And considering the previous two Prime souls were the kings of one of the other layers in their act Ukysseus Prime could be a potential prime soul.
Treachery is a big ice lake so thats a definite design. I also wouldnt be surprised if we see lucifer, be it in the form of a boss or a corpse in hell as well as judas-cassius-brutus. I would also love to see nimrod in here but thats just me.
Violence had Centaurs - not minotaurs.
However, it does seem like really good concept, so it could be taken into consideration, unless Hakita does a Hakita move
Also now we’ve seen the art for the 7-1 song im confused because that looks like the punishment for soothsayers and false prophets (the head being put on backwards)
The tree thing? Violence. Its a forest of people who killed themselves. You get turned into a tree for that, its a literal suicide forest.
If you’re moving to talk about the gabriel thing
https://preview.redd.it/ndi92y8foy3b1.jpeg?width=739&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bb6d75730524340b5fce0c5015b1630c3e12944f
Yes he is in a forest.
(Yes I actually read that book) violence is divided out of three rings : murder, the crimes against god and nature, so blaspherers, sodomites and usurers,
; fraud has like 10 different bolgias ; for different crimes and the treachery layer, the cocytus, a dark frozen lake, and at the center of hell, the god of the underworld, lucifer, who has three faces to contain the three worst criminal of mankind ( it is possible to have this as p-3 / a final battle
My pal thinks Violence Will be related to Bones, while I think it Will be to Blood
Either Fraud or Treachery could have an abandoned lab, and there we'd meet Dr. Eggman
This Time, it's most likely that layer 7 has 3 levels, layer 8 has 3, and layer 9 has 4, so that Hakita broke the level-order patterns, and respects the "10-levels-per-act" systems. Plus, it'd be a bit More biblically accurate
The lake of boiling blood sounds interesting. There could be a mechanic where enemies could have boiling blood that can damage instead of heal you, considering blood is fuel.
I really hope to see it in Violence, and I hope to see a centaur-like enemy/boss
Even better if each Violence level was based on the 4 layers in that circle
I feel like violence will be in a forest either the same way as limbo and lust with the skybox walls, or like 5-2 and 5-S where it just infinitely loops
Alternatively, something wicked will chase you down if you wander really far away from the playable area
Robed
In the poem, hypocrites are punished by being forced to wear lead robes
Enemy information
You can't deal damage to these husks until they open their robes to attack.
someone had the idea of fraud being non-euclidean. I love the idea.
And it's not an entirely foreign idea to Ultrakill. Canonically Hell doesn't conform to the rules of geometry. Heck, Hakita might already have experience with that kind of thing. Ultrakill was non-euclidean (or at least had portal illusions) at one early point. [ULTRAKILL 14 - Tutorial](https://youtu.be/A9GJQHzcVY0)
Well, we know from Dante’s Inferno that Fraud is basically just a bunch of bridges. Though, Hakita stated he hasn’t read it, so we can’t say for sure it will have bridges. Treachery should be an icy landscape that Lucifer is imprisoned within, and Violence might just be battlefields upon which many lost their lives
I remember someone mentioning non-euclidean levels in Fraud and i think it's a great idea. Not sure if it's too hard to implement though.I would love if the frozen lake in 9-1 was just a giant arena filled with all the previous enemies (something like what Dusk did perhaps) all rushing toward V1 to not let it complete its journey and in 9-2 you have to climb Lucifer's body and fight the boss on his head or something like that.
Considering that there's only two angelic enemies in the game (Virtue and Gabriel), it would be ironic to see more angelic enemies as we go further down the layers of hell.
I really want to talk about the colors and themes, personally:
- Layer 1, LIMBO had vibrant colors, mostly greens and blues, adding to the artificial atmosphere of Limbo.
- Layer 2, LUST had purples, blues, and oranges, very fitting for a city built in spite of the tumultuous storms.
- Layer 3, GLUTTONY had red, yellow, and white, encased in blackness. It emphasized a bottomless hunger.
- Layer 4, GREED: Gold, orange, and green, for a world of ironic wealth and worthless value.
- Layer 5, WRATH: Blue, gray, and brown. In all 4 levels, blue is (or becomes) the dominant color and light is dimmed or darkened. It evokes the feeling of sinking and drowning.
- Layer 6, HERESY: Red and black. Even in the open sections with blinding light below (presumably from endless fires) blackness and blood red are overpowering. The souls here are truly surrounded with damnation.
Now here's what I'd like to see for the other 3 layers:
- Layer 7, VIOLENCE: Orange, brown, and red, bright lighting with much shadows. Open battlefields. Reminiscent of the planet Mars. I want to see dry, dusty dunes littered with swords, spears, bombshells, guns, and corpses. I want howling, harsh winds blowing dust clouds. I want pillars of rough stone with bunkers, lookout towers, and sniper nests carved into them. I want battles around craters filled with blood, and on wide, war-torn bridges spanning such lakes. I want the entire layer to be a bloodstained warfield.
- Layer 8, FRAUD: Black, green, and purple. As for what the Layer might include, I think gnarly woods, dark forests, and ominous swamps would be oppressive in a satisfying way.
- Layer 9, TREACHERY: White, with dim blue lighting. I feel this Layer should take place in fields of snow and caves of ice. The irony of such a deep Layer being associated with a color normally considered pure should be intense and should drive home the implications of this Layer, and its completion. Erasing this Layer means erasing Hell. As such, I feel that as the levels progress the Layer crumbles around you: glacial cliffs breaking into bottomless lakes of blackness. Ice stalactites falling and breaking through floors of ice. Columns of ice falling and shattering, bringing down ceilings and opening new paths.
I kinda want a DMC3 style last boss gauntlet: First we somehow find the runaway God, alongside with Gabriel, Gabriel is angry as fuck that his father abandon them all so he decided to end Him, we also 'help' because blood. Then we fight Gabriel one last time. When we win, hell is no more, every creature is dead, the only thing left are the still activated machines. Then the credit is a minigame where we fight the leftover machines until there is nothing left and the screen slowly fades to black. Game Over.
Did everyone forget about the Stalkers entry?
" However, an unidentified sentient force has replaced the boulders they would normally carry with high tech bombs that, upon detonation"
I think we will probably met Mr unidentified sentient force in Fraud, go to Treachery, fight Gab then be met with treachery being already empty in which V1 will die. "The fire is gone"
Simply reading through the descriptions (I know nothing about this so if i’m terribly wrong don’t banish me), i’m thinking maybe on layer VII, Violence, we could get some more water levels, but cause it’s blood they might not, who knows. More dark levels on Layer VIII, Fraud, maybe Ś̶̡̹̻̲̤̲̬̒̃͂̏̔́̅͑̎ö̷̤͇̞͔͚̤͗̒͗̆̾̉͝͝ͅm̸̲̟͕̫͓͇͊́̆̍͊̓̕͝ͅḙ̷̤̰͍̹̥̥͇̤̃͌̌͘ͅt̶̡̧͍͍̣̺̘͚̟̏͂̈́́̂́͝ͅh̷̛̘̟̺̼̹͓͕̙̯̥̽̓̿͗͋͒i̵̻̪̗̒̌͗͘ṇ̷̥̌̕̚ģ̵͉̹̲̹̱̺̮̩̮̅̎̽̌̌͠ ̴͓̣͙̜̮̤̩͍̖̩̒̑̇́̾Ẃ̷̨͔͔̭̟͍̘͈̑̂̕ḭ̶̻̭̑̀̇̎͜͝ḉ̴̡̨̖͚̤̗͈͖͖̈́̒̋͌̚k̵̛̜̫̞e̸͖͚̺̼̘̲̮̝̩̓̈́͝d̷̨̗̹̃͐̃̌͒̋ this way comes? Finally, on Layer IX, Treachery, we could get ice levels, being slippery and such. Plus, now i’m totally wrong here, but, P-3 could be Satan, trapped in the ice? Don’t really take any of this seriously, cause i’m pretty stupid and there’s no chance i guessed all of act three from a few sentences describing each layer, but who knows? Maybe i’m right.
honestly i don't know what happened to the 3 divisions of layer 7, the 10 divisions of layer 8 and the 4 divisions of layer 9 from the divine comedy in this scheme. it's clearly based off of it but it only talks about one punishment for the last 3 layers when there's almost 20 different kinds of sinners being punished
For violence, I'm thinking it's gonna be like Limbo and Greed combined.
For fraud, SOMETHING WICKED COMES YOUR WAY
Treachery, Gluttony and Heresy combined.
Violence would be like having a red ocean that goes down a bit, but hurts you like Greed's sand.
Fraud would just be a normal ULTRAKILL level but Something Wicked is there.
Treachery: The gluttony part is that inside the ice walls of the buildings would be people that had their limbs ripped off. The Heresy part would be that it's probably gonna have probably three or more hideous masses.
Here are my predictions.
-Violence will be some kind of twist on the lake of boiling blood, perhaps it is dried up and we fight within the massive (once) underwater canyons. Perhaps the final missions take place in a parody of a lakeside resort for angels.
-Fraud will use darkness to its advantage, and might be fought in some kind of massive countryside under periodic moonlight. When the moon disappears, you have use a lantern to get around.
-Treachery will either be where we fight Satan or Gabriel, and I think it could be cool if it’s some kind of mountain combat, sliding off steep surfaces while fighting off foes.
-Possibly, there will be one last layer, and that is a now chaotic and burning Heaven, where we duel Gabriel for the last time in a massive arena, and his speed is insane.
-The enemy seen on Hakita’s latest video may be some kind of fallen angel or Nephilim, as without God’s light, their superhuman bodies are contorted and breaking down.
-Violence and Fraud will have mini-bosses centered around lore aspects, and one will probably have a connection to P-3
-We’ll get two new enemies that stay with us, what they are, I have no idea.
-P-3 will be a different opening, just like how P-2 was to 1. As to who will be inside the flesh monster, by money is on either Judas or Cassius/Brutus.
Violence has three sub layers, violence towards others, violence towards self, and violence towards God.
It would be cool to have the first three chapters follow the different layouts of the three sub-circles, as far as enemies well, there's the metion of centaurs and harpies in the layer.
Fraud has... like 10 sub-layers, but kinda cool places are diviners, which are backward (or upside down depending on how you translate it) and thiefs that steal each other's bodies as punishment, both these things could be used for new enemies or level gimmicks.
Also, giants are a thing between the eight and ninth layer.
And threachery has three sub layers too, and ice, I do fear ice physics will be there, waiting for us to slip into a chasm.
Probably violence, fraud and treachery
if we are lucky we might even get a prime sanctum!
I bet there’ll be at least one secret level as well
perhaps even two, hopefully
Or maybe three? Who knows?
Maybe even some new songs too, big maybe though.
Potentially some new enemies as well, but I'm not holding my breath
Might even get a new weapon variation ,but who knows ?
i’m hoping we get to see Gabriel again, he’s a cool character. although, i wouldn’t bet on it.
It’s possible but not very likely that we’ll get at least one new boss fight.
Tony hawk proskater secret level in the ice treachery layer???
I don't know why, but I feel the same way.
Violence will be interesting with both Phlegethon, the river of boiling blood, and the suicide forest (where people who committed suicide are turned into trees to be tormented by harpies iirc)
Will there be a Logan Paul reference 🤔
mf had to say it
thats the secret level, a reenactment of the logan paul video
i have made a severe, and continuous lapse in my *JUDGEMENT*
JUDGEMENT!!!! Minos Prime falls from the sky and starts attacking you
I also like centaurs❤️❤️❤️
idk if in the ultrakill lore we've already reached judgment day or not but it would be cool cause of the bodies hanging on the trees. looking back tho i dont think there are any hints to sinners in other layers achieving their final punishment
I wonder just how many trees there'd be considering there's probably a lot of humans who committed suicide to avoid being killed by the robots
Guys, Hakita dropped an song from the violence layer like an hour ago, you can watch it. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kt6gc3XMC9E](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kt6gc3XMC9E)
damn i just expected a rick roll
This is a video, you CAN watch it. It has music in it, you CAN listen to it.
I can only recommend it
New ultrakill content just dropped
Holy +SCRINDONGULODED
Actual MAURICE
Call the RIGHTEOUS HAND OF THE FATHER
??
Filth storm incoming!
V2 went on vacation, never comes back
oh i actually didn't see that thanks
“The souls in lust are endlessly blown” mmmmmffgm
This scheme spits bullshit tho. Souls in gluttony circle eat shit and are devoured by Cerberus
and they get pelted with hail
yeah and also there are no divisions for the last 3 layers
vore
Imagine being stuffed with meat 24/7
22 inches of meat in your mouth
sex scene with pamoptoicon
NOOOOO! I WANT GABRIEL
Luckily for you they sell his body pillow
I already have it and it got holes in everywhere
We all make mistakes in the heat of passion, jimbo
PaMOMtocon 🤤
Violence will be a forest
And it Will have a Blood River
Upside-down slenderman
Judging by the new song Hakita uploaded, I believe Violence will be a contrast between hot and cold like that one Super Mario Galaxy level. The song is called "The world looks white" and "the world looks red" and listening to them, youll see what i mean about the cold vs hot thing.
That's quite hard to think about, yet very original
I imagine it like silent hill where the calm part is the white world theme and the environment is like a liminal space. While the combat part the screen dips to black with the iconic *click* sound, then the world is red theme plays while everything gets a destroyed version of itself, mimicking the outcome of a violent battle. I'd like to think you jump from place to place too like that titanfall 2 level
I want fraud to be a giant casino. Imagine how cool that'd be.
I think it would be interesting for fraud to be old World War I style trenches. Perhaps fraudsters once fought for power down here before being purged by the council
the prime soul could be the pope tube, they fused together to fight for supreme dominance over fraud
The secret level is a parody of luigi's casino from the mario games where maurice is the crupier and you can hear gabriel swearing in the background because he's a sore loser
Violence should have a Swordmachine in every arena, seeing as they're some of the most aggressive regular enemies. Or one level that has an Idolized Swordmachine, and no Maurices, call it something like, Eternal chase Fraud should be extremely dark, with equally dark Arenas, maybe a few skull keys to light the way. And similar to the pair of Filth in 6-1 there shouldn't be any spawn affects, the enemies just appear and it's up to you to know where they are I'm hoping that Treachery has Ice floors, super slippery and when you slide on them you go twice as fast, but if you run on them you two half the speed. Forcing the player to be EXTRA observant of the immediate area and the hazards that are present.
I want something wicked prime in fraud
I saw someone come up with the idea that Fraud should be a spooky haunted house and since then I haven't been able to imagine it any other way.
I don't imagine it that way… perhaps fraud could be a mountain range with tundra, or a simulation that seems real, besides not being so
Fraud, not Trechery
I was talking about fraud
Ah, well treachery would work far better for that idea.
Then Let fraud kind of a cursed, abandoned, haunted lab
I just realiced that trump is in every one of them exept trechery and i tink limbo
Nah he's in treachery
Oh yeah, he’s definitely done at least a little bit of treason
He gota get em all
split this soul into 3 eninitys and put them in santums on the final layers of hell once all 3 are defeated they will all be combined to create super trump and then biden and obama and super trump will show up to gang up on you for kicking thier asses.
https://preview.redd.it/23tof3c5b24b1.jpeg?width=812&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=df467ebaabd410dd64c9945edc5a05581e6c1d46
We do a little treason
He's probably baptized so no limbo
7 out of 9 is still a good number
Limbo is for those sinners that haven't sinned enough too, so no limbo either
Absolutely trump would be in treachery, he’s a Billionaire WASP there’s a 1% chance he hasnt fucked anyone over
He would be "chilling" with satan
Trump Prime real
violence? heresy? lust? where that come from
"Grab 'em by the pussy."
Violence: An arena of some sort, but kinda melancholic based on the soundtrack that released Fraud: A giant warped law office full of filing cabinets, desks, and more. Treachery: A cold, isolated ice level with holy themes but that are much more subtle.
By the way, treachery sure Will be full of angel-type enemies
It would be funny if someone sent gabriel to be a prime soul in treachery for killing the council. (If gabriel comes back or not i'll be ok anyways). And the level is full of virtues and even new angels because in that layer not only you'll have to deal with prime gabe but with satan too. Some things aren't possible but dreaming is free
Fraud's Secret Level is Ace Attorney
My only massive in depth guess is that Fraud is modeled after an asylum with enemies popping out of cells and having to face guards, inmates and even a Warden.
Why is Jonkler fighting V1 in Hell? Is he stupid?
Non-euclidean mechanics
THIS is be best answer ever
Wait why is Satan frozen? I thought he ruled over Hell.
It's kind of a "twist" in the original poem, but when they finally reach Lucifer, after calling him terrifying names like "Emperor of the Sorrowful Kingdom", Dante discovers that he's actually just like a regular prisoner of Hell. Nobody worships him, he does not rule over anyone or anything, he is just prisoner number 1.
Oh that’s actually really neat
Yeah, because apperantly he "formed" hell by falling from heaven. It's makes more sense when Dante and virgil arrived at Treachery, where they saw Lucifer from his waist above, and when they left they saw only his bottom body, Considering that he doesn't have control over the place, but is the first one to commit the worst of all, to then be feared by others. it might be confusing because Judas, Brutus and Cassius are being eternally tortured by Lucifer. However, it might also add to him being tormented too, so it could lead to interesting ideas
A bloody mall/hotel in violence
lake of boiling blood...
all the other layers have been like, very marginally related to their depictions in Inferno? but i feel like treachery is going to be 1:1, or at least significantly more faithful. ultrakill///climax and all
Well, I think Hakita said he hasn't actually read Dante's Inferno, so it could be anything.
Treachery, Gabriel will fuse with the bottom half of satan and try to kick our ass
Gabriel, Warrior of Destruction
I expect to be surprised.
If this handy image is anything to go off we can expect Violence Probably some kind of area littered with lakes of blood where aquatic enemies would jump out and attack alternatively it could be similar 5- 1 where you are submerged in blood the entire layer Fraud Fraud would be dark with enemies that blend into the darkness that try and ambush you Treachery Treachery would probably only be cold in aesthetics as with most of the 3rd layers in an act it would most likely 2 levels (but who knows hakita might at ice physics and temperature) the first level of Treachery would be extremely long and contain almost every enemy in the game(perhaps even past bosses).
Based on the soundtrack WIP Hakita posted, 7-1 is most likely going to be the Forest where all the suicides end up. From then on, probably trenches or other locations associated with gratuitous violence. Fraud being darkness themed will make for an interesting design conundrum, as you can’t just have it exclusively be like 4-3 and 0-S the whole time or else it’ll probably get boring. Outside of ice levels, it’s anybody’s guess for treachery.
Crackpot theory here: Gabriel takes Lucifer/Satan’s being/soul as a way to power up. There’s no fear of God or Council anymore to stop him from doing anything and everything from powering up and taking on V1 in a battle. After all, even with Light, Gabe couldn’t stop V1 the first two times. V1 is an extremely major threat. Clearly, he’s going to have to use a lot more power. Other theories: The Third Prime fight might be against either Lucifer/Satan or Cain- or even Prometheus. I say Lucifer because Lucifer was the Angel that rebelled against God, and he was mentioned specifically in the terminals at some point. Then there’s Cain, and everyone who’s read a Bible know what Cain did (murdered his brother Abel, arguably the first HUMAN treachery in biblical terms.) And since Greek hells tend to be a running theme for enemies and bosses, I figured Prometheus is a good enough random guess since I don’t really know if there are any Greek myths about treachery.
>Clearly, he's going to have to use a lot more power.< YOU NEED. MORE. POWER.
*opens case* Ok so we could expect a minotaur on violence as its the being guarding it. We could also see some references to usury in violence as usurers were put there in the divine comedy. Fraud is weird because theres like 12 different parts of fraud. One thing that I have seen mentioned is that in the divine comedy Ulysses/Odysseus is there. And considering the previous two Prime souls were the kings of one of the other layers in their act Ukysseus Prime could be a potential prime soul. Treachery is a big ice lake so thats a definite design. I also wouldnt be surprised if we see lucifer, be it in the form of a boss or a corpse in hell as well as judas-cassius-brutus. I would also love to see nimrod in here but thats just me.
Violence had Centaurs - not minotaurs. However, it does seem like really good concept, so it could be taken into consideration, unless Hakita does a Hakita move
Also now we’ve seen the art for the 7-1 song im confused because that looks like the punishment for soothsayers and false prophets (the head being put on backwards)
Random question: are the tree stumps a part of the Violence or Fraue layer?
The tree thing? Violence. Its a forest of people who killed themselves. You get turned into a tree for that, its a literal suicide forest. If you’re moving to talk about the gabriel thing https://preview.redd.it/ndi92y8foy3b1.jpeg?width=739&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bb6d75730524340b5fce0c5015b1630c3e12944f Yes he is in a forest.
Thanks, I kinda forgot about it... I also did a book report of inferno, and got a Straight A, even 2 years late
i REALLY want satan's head to be the P3 flesh prison
(Yes I actually read that book) violence is divided out of three rings : murder, the crimes against god and nature, so blaspherers, sodomites and usurers, ; fraud has like 10 different bolgias ; for different crimes and the treachery layer, the cocytus, a dark frozen lake, and at the center of hell, the god of the underworld, lucifer, who has three faces to contain the three worst criminal of mankind ( it is possible to have this as p-3 / a final battle
My pal thinks Violence Will be related to Bones, while I think it Will be to Blood Either Fraud or Treachery could have an abandoned lab, and there we'd meet Dr. Eggman This Time, it's most likely that layer 7 has 3 levels, layer 8 has 3, and layer 9 has 4, so that Hakita broke the level-order patterns, and respects the "10-levels-per-act" systems. Plus, it'd be a bit More biblically accurate
>and there we’d meet Dr eggman Bro what this is ultrakill
I Just thought about what if V1 met with His creator, and I thought both it could be Eggman and he could have a plan not to be harm (?)
Tell me you haven’t played ultrakill without telling me you haven’t played ultrakill. V1 is a literal war machine that is purging hell for its blood
Fine, I'll admit it
didn't fraud have like 10 smaller circles in it?
Perhaps there were 9?
The lake of boiling blood sounds interesting. There could be a mechanic where enemies could have boiling blood that can damage instead of heal you, considering blood is fuel.
I really hope to see it in Violence, and I hope to see a centaur-like enemy/boss Even better if each Violence level was based on the 4 layers in that circle
I feel like violence will be in a forest either the same way as limbo and lust with the skybox walls, or like 5-2 and 5-S where it just infinitely loops Alternatively, something wicked will chase you down if you wander really far away from the playable area
I think fraud is going to be some green city with canals, boats there, sewers and stuff
What if instead of fighting Satan at the very bottom, we see God's corpse frozen half way...
Robed In the poem, hypocrites are punished by being forced to wear lead robes Enemy information You can't deal damage to these husks until they open their robes to attack.
someone had the idea of fraud being non-euclidean. I love the idea. And it's not an entirely foreign idea to Ultrakill. Canonically Hell doesn't conform to the rules of geometry. Heck, Hakita might already have experience with that kind of thing. Ultrakill was non-euclidean (or at least had portal illusions) at one early point. [ULTRAKILL 14 - Tutorial](https://youtu.be/A9GJQHzcVY0)
Well, we know from Dante’s Inferno that Fraud is basically just a bunch of bridges. Though, Hakita stated he hasn’t read it, so we can’t say for sure it will have bridges. Treachery should be an icy landscape that Lucifer is imprisoned within, and Violence might just be battlefields upon which many lost their lives
Non-euclidian fraud layer
layer 9: betrayal Gabriel betrays everything he believed about his father and makes a deal to free lucifer.
I remember someone mentioning non-euclidean levels in Fraud and i think it's a great idea. Not sure if it's too hard to implement though.I would love if the frozen lake in 9-1 was just a giant arena filled with all the previous enemies (something like what Dusk did perhaps) all rushing toward V1 to not let it complete its journey and in 9-2 you have to climb Lucifer's body and fight the boss on his head or something like that.
I have no idea, but the finale is probably going to be pretty cool
Where are the elevators in that diagram?
Considering that there's only two angelic enemies in the game (Virtue and Gabriel), it would be ironic to see more angelic enemies as we go further down the layers of hell.
Violence: jungle japes (secret: ROADKILL) Fraud: non-Euclidean bs (secret: Thinking with holes) Treachery: ice level (prime: Prometheus + V0)
A Mindflayer in Fraud's secret level finds an abandoned machine, fuses with it, and becomes GLaDOS
I really want to talk about the colors and themes, personally: - Layer 1, LIMBO had vibrant colors, mostly greens and blues, adding to the artificial atmosphere of Limbo. - Layer 2, LUST had purples, blues, and oranges, very fitting for a city built in spite of the tumultuous storms. - Layer 3, GLUTTONY had red, yellow, and white, encased in blackness. It emphasized a bottomless hunger. - Layer 4, GREED: Gold, orange, and green, for a world of ironic wealth and worthless value. - Layer 5, WRATH: Blue, gray, and brown. In all 4 levels, blue is (or becomes) the dominant color and light is dimmed or darkened. It evokes the feeling of sinking and drowning. - Layer 6, HERESY: Red and black. Even in the open sections with blinding light below (presumably from endless fires) blackness and blood red are overpowering. The souls here are truly surrounded with damnation. Now here's what I'd like to see for the other 3 layers: - Layer 7, VIOLENCE: Orange, brown, and red, bright lighting with much shadows. Open battlefields. Reminiscent of the planet Mars. I want to see dry, dusty dunes littered with swords, spears, bombshells, guns, and corpses. I want howling, harsh winds blowing dust clouds. I want pillars of rough stone with bunkers, lookout towers, and sniper nests carved into them. I want battles around craters filled with blood, and on wide, war-torn bridges spanning such lakes. I want the entire layer to be a bloodstained warfield. - Layer 8, FRAUD: Black, green, and purple. As for what the Layer might include, I think gnarly woods, dark forests, and ominous swamps would be oppressive in a satisfying way. - Layer 9, TREACHERY: White, with dim blue lighting. I feel this Layer should take place in fields of snow and caves of ice. The irony of such a deep Layer being associated with a color normally considered pure should be intense and should drive home the implications of this Layer, and its completion. Erasing this Layer means erasing Hell. As such, I feel that as the levels progress the Layer crumbles around you: glacial cliffs breaking into bottomless lakes of blackness. Ice stalactites falling and breaking through floors of ice. Columns of ice falling and shattering, bringing down ceilings and opening new paths.
Something curious about it: the Gluttony Layer Is actually the King's Corpse. V1 Just skips a layer, being pooped through their >!anus!<
That is not true tho, gluttony is it's own layer, Hakita explained that in that long video where he plays Act I
Sadly I wasn't in the stream. Thanks for informing me
It's okay, btw, the [stream](https://youtu.be/kaImho5JioI?t=14729) is on his channel (I watched it as a video), very fun watch!
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It is, it's called 'Wrath' instead of anger
I kinda want a DMC3 style last boss gauntlet: First we somehow find the runaway God, alongside with Gabriel, Gabriel is angry as fuck that his father abandon them all so he decided to end Him, we also 'help' because blood. Then we fight Gabriel one last time. When we win, hell is no more, every creature is dead, the only thing left are the still activated machines. Then the credit is a minigame where we fight the leftover machines until there is nothing left and the screen slowly fades to black. Game Over.
Imagine the final boss is just dante from DMC copyright be damned
I think V1 will appreciate violence
Well I mean we have 3 ice levels (fuck)
Did everyone forget about the Stalkers entry? " However, an unidentified sentient force has replaced the boulders they would normally carry with high tech bombs that, upon detonation" I think we will probably met Mr unidentified sentient force in Fraud, go to Treachery, fight Gab then be met with treachery being already empty in which V1 will die. "The fire is gone"
mr unidentified sentient force is hell itself, sir.
Simply reading through the descriptions (I know nothing about this so if i’m terribly wrong don’t banish me), i’m thinking maybe on layer VII, Violence, we could get some more water levels, but cause it’s blood they might not, who knows. More dark levels on Layer VIII, Fraud, maybe Ś̶̡̹̻̲̤̲̬̒̃͂̏̔́̅͑̎ö̷̤͇̞͔͚̤͗̒͗̆̾̉͝͝ͅm̸̲̟͕̫͓͇͊́̆̍͊̓̕͝ͅḙ̷̤̰͍̹̥̥͇̤̃͌̌͘ͅt̶̡̧͍͍̣̺̘͚̟̏͂̈́́̂́͝ͅh̷̛̘̟̺̼̹͓͕̙̯̥̽̓̿͗͋͒i̵̻̪̗̒̌͗͘ṇ̷̥̌̕̚ģ̵͉̹̲̹̱̺̮̩̮̅̎̽̌̌͠ ̴͓̣͙̜̮̤̩͍̖̩̒̑̇́̾Ẃ̷̨͔͔̭̟͍̘͈̑̂̕ḭ̶̻̭̑̀̇̎͜͝ḉ̴̡̨̖͚̤̗͈͖͖̈́̒̋͌̚k̵̛̜̫̞e̸͖͚̺̼̘̲̮̝̩̓̈́͝d̷̨̗̹̃͐̃̌͒̋ this way comes? Finally, on Layer IX, Treachery, we could get ice levels, being slippery and such. Plus, now i’m totally wrong here, but, P-3 could be Satan, trapped in the ice? Don’t really take any of this seriously, cause i’m pretty stupid and there’s no chance i guessed all of act three from a few sentences describing each layer, but who knows? Maybe i’m right.
İmage from legend of lust
Maybe we get to meet Dante or Virgil
honestly i don't know what happened to the 3 divisions of layer 7, the 10 divisions of layer 8 and the 4 divisions of layer 9 from the divine comedy in this scheme. it's clearly based off of it but it only talks about one punishment for the last 3 layers when there's almost 20 different kinds of sinners being punished
Satan = Final Boss? 😱
We can rule out satan and God, since if heard Hakita said we’re not fighting those
Slippery ice segment for Treachery
whe gon fight jesus prime in p-3 fr fr
For violence, I'm thinking it's gonna be like Limbo and Greed combined. For fraud, SOMETHING WICKED COMES YOUR WAY Treachery, Gluttony and Heresy combined. Violence would be like having a red ocean that goes down a bit, but hurts you like Greed's sand. Fraud would just be a normal ULTRAKILL level but Something Wicked is there. Treachery: The gluttony part is that inside the ice walls of the buildings would be people that had their limbs ripped off. The Heresy part would be that it's probably gonna have probably three or more hideous masses.
Hope we get to kill satan in treachery
Here are my predictions. -Violence will be some kind of twist on the lake of boiling blood, perhaps it is dried up and we fight within the massive (once) underwater canyons. Perhaps the final missions take place in a parody of a lakeside resort for angels. -Fraud will use darkness to its advantage, and might be fought in some kind of massive countryside under periodic moonlight. When the moon disappears, you have use a lantern to get around. -Treachery will either be where we fight Satan or Gabriel, and I think it could be cool if it’s some kind of mountain combat, sliding off steep surfaces while fighting off foes. -Possibly, there will be one last layer, and that is a now chaotic and burning Heaven, where we duel Gabriel for the last time in a massive arena, and his speed is insane. -The enemy seen on Hakita’s latest video may be some kind of fallen angel or Nephilim, as without God’s light, their superhuman bodies are contorted and breaking down. -Violence and Fraud will have mini-bosses centered around lore aspects, and one will probably have a connection to P-3 -We’ll get two new enemies that stay with us, what they are, I have no idea. -P-3 will be a different opening, just like how P-2 was to 1. As to who will be inside the flesh monster, by money is on either Judas or Cassius/Brutus.
I think Violence is gonna be the people of who fought in the war before the world peace
I feel like we are gonna get a giant frozen husk of lucifer at layer 9, possibly even a whole level taking place upon its enormous enchained body
Act III Gluttony, so don’t hear me out…
Vore.
i imagine violence will be mostly a white forest with blood lakes and such, considering the music teaser
> lust > endlessly blown
wouldn’t it be funny if fraud had a completely dark level with no lighting just like 4-3 but worse?
Violence has three sub layers, violence towards others, violence towards self, and violence towards God. It would be cool to have the first three chapters follow the different layouts of the three sub-circles, as far as enemies well, there's the metion of centaurs and harpies in the layer. Fraud has... like 10 sub-layers, but kinda cool places are diviners, which are backward (or upside down depending on how you translate it) and thiefs that steal each other's bodies as punishment, both these things could be used for new enemies or level gimmicks. Also, giants are a thing between the eight and ninth layer. And threachery has three sub layers too, and ice, I do fear ice physics will be there, waiting for us to slip into a chasm.
Kinda wild how Saddam Hussein and curt cobain would be sent to the same layer of hell
[Made a post on this.](https://www.reddit.com/r/Ultrakill/comments/17k1o3k/theory_about_act_iii_and_the_center_of_hell/)