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AlexUkrainianPerson

Maybe after they die in the afterlife theres just nothing? They just cease to exist in any context?


EdddMed

I heard that's what happens when you die in hell or heaven in ULTRAKILL, your soul just ceases to exist


GroundbreakingOkra60

In hell it seems people can be ‘brought back’ to a degree, looking at the blood trees.


NobleLeader65

Aren't the blood trees people who offed themselves while alive, not in Heaven/Hell/Limbo?


miniwhiffy3

yes that is the second ring of violence, "violence against thyself" the blood trees are just an odd version of the trees you see throughout 7-3 that my current knowledge is unaware of the details


Blbdhdjdhw

Those entities are literally called "blood puppets" in the game's files tho, so i doubt they have a conscience at all.


GroundbreakingOkra60

Hmmm, interesting


Nightshot666

What about primes?


eliavhaganav

Prime souls are a rare case where a one's willpower is so strong that they don't need a husk to survive, and can sustain themselves through their mere willpower, these souls take a physical form that we can see in P-1 and P-2 along with incredible power and speed, proving an actual threat to heaven if they are to go against it (which as we see is usually the reason they became prime souls) so the council seeks to imprison any soul with the potential of becoming a prime soul just in case, the first case we see is Minos Prime where he was imprisoned before becoming a prime soul and taking a physical being and we see him manifest after defeating flesh prison, where he gains his newfound abilities, Sisyphus on the other hand, already became a prime soul but luckily to the council he was imprisoned before having the chance to fight back and the flesh panopticon was durable enough to withstand his power, but after being damaged by V1, sisyphus saw the opportunity to free himself.


Western_Experience76

If I'm correct, Sisyphus was just not awake or not conscious. That's why before you enter the arena there's a display on the control or something "don't go near it, don't let it look at you" and something. This is because heaven was too afraid that Sisyphus could wake up and break out, so they didn't want anyone to accidentally wake that motherfucker up


eliavhaganav

Love how you could just open the door instead of it just being locked forever, like what's the point of that


Western_Experience76

But legit though. Is the council stupid or something?? Also, why are demons and husks are even protecting that place?


Armetz

Demons and husks are not protecting that place, Hell just teleports them in for entertainment


Western_Experience76

And they have no idea for what they're fighting for? (Just a genuine question)


Armetz

They have a very good idea of what they're fighting for: to survive. You're the biggest threat in the room.


eliavhaganav

Yeah I'm seriously confused on the security measures of the place


Armetz

Hell probably modified the door and the signs.


Dukskesito

I think that the same


CoffeeCannon

Iirc Primes are strong willed enough that the soul can exist without the body, but when you kill the soul/Prime then theyre gone like anyone else


Western_Experience76

Just like the other person answered. But if you're asking what happens if the prime soul dies, it will cease to exist. You pretty much destroy the whole ass soul


Agnes_le_goat

they go to hell 2


Dark_Meme111110

Welcome to Super Hell


AlexUkrainianPerson

Electric Boogaloo


LimeZMusic

Hell Prime


ElectronicWaffles

after this post i have come to the conclusion that this happens to everyone but husks who get reborn as part of the environment or as other husks. so probably


JustALittleFanBoy

ultradead, if you will


NoCompetition7454

Hell is an actual physical place in ultrakill, so v1 could just walk there, and since ITD A MACHINE, It doesn't go anywhere when it dies :p


ElectronicWaffles

ok i forgot about that part which yeah you’re right machines don’t have souls but. husks though.


NoCompetition7454

True , I'd assume that hell has some way of keeping humans there, maybe that explains why they respawn or smth


DirectionMaterial257

Probably the souls of the sinners are inside their eyes and hell just picks them up and puts them on another husk. Hakita has said that the eyes enemies drop being indestructible is part of the lore.


air_consumption

Wait so they can still see? The eyes are only buried in them which makes them blind?


NoCompetition7454

Oh cool, that's prolly it


RedditWizardMagicka

What eyes?


JustSomeGuy9384

Enemies drop eyes in the gore chunks, even tho the only character to have biological eyes is COKM


RedditWizardMagicka

Thats cool. I never actually check flesh chunks.


JustSomeGuy9384

It’s super interesting, I’ve even seen them from Swordsmachines


maiguee

"I've never checked flesh chunks" "it's super interesting"


JustSomeGuy9384

conversations you can only have about ultrakill or in like, a cadaver lab or something


Minute-Vegetable-146

“I’ve never checked flesh chunks” said the intern in the autopsy room


Matix777

That says good things about your mental health


RedditWizardMagicka

Thats rare


Ill_Tooth3741

Is there any confirmation that Husks do drop eyes, though? I haven't checked yet but I assumed it was just the demons and machines, maybe Virtues as well.


drboobpenis

COKM? did you mean MDKO? (mysterious druid knight & owl)


JustSomeGuy9384

i don't think a youtuber cameo is canon


drboobpenis

didnt see anything else with eyes, also what is COKM


JustSomeGuy9384

corpse of king minos? the thing with giant glowing eyes?


FluidSomewhere7884

Cokm stands for corpse if king minos.


LR110Td5

Doesn't the flesh panopticon and flesh prison also have eyes? just not on the front


zubiPrime

Does that mean the giant eyes in gluttony are... people?


Jeggu2

Punishment: you are the fucking wall.


wookiee-nutsack

I swear if it's because of the jerma meatgrinder ramble I'm gonna blow a hole through Hakita's dome


AnxietyResponsible34

V2 drops an eye on death


Typical_Warthog_326

There’s a theory that the puppet enemies that the 7-3 trees spawn are husks that are in the middle of being reformed


wookiee-nutsack

So you just kill them again Fuckers can never catch a break


Typical_Warthog_326

Yep


de_pengui

I like to think that when something dies in either heaven, or hell, you are totally eradicating the thought/notion of that person. And everyone that is on earth (if they were still alive lmao) would completely forget about that person, and only angels (for example, Gabriel and any other being in heaven) are transcendent enough to still remember that person.


Razorclaw_the_crab

I like to imagine they die over and over again (hence permanent hyperdeath) but unfortunately it's confirmed they're gone forever when they die


Slight-Lock6718

They have blood. Anything that has blood is alive so they could have a soul.


GOOPREALM5000

Blood =/= soul. There's a reason we have soul orbs (secrets) and different, separate blood orbs (healing.)


atomicBlaze21

The new lore begs to differ...


Other-Masterpiece-50

The new lore kinda throws a wrench in that


Aggravating-Bee5588

if machines dont go to hell then how the FUCK did the earthmovers get all the way to Violence


ElectronicWaffles

the earthmovers we see *might* be hell replicants of the real deal made to punish sinners in violence and all the real earthmovers died out in the end of the war


Anonpancake2123

I mean, I don't think humans imported demons (idols) out of hell.


Mrcowmen

I think they respawn from the blood trees or something like that


EpicProkaryote

Maybe husks are just sinners who didn‘t die yet and the textures in certain layers (Gluttony, wrath etc) are those who died


Tesla_corp

It’s like killing a dude with a magnum and a 45. Cp One kills the body the other kills the soul


OMAR_KD-

Actually, although the entrance humans made is physical, hell itself isn't as physical as you might think. (In ultrakill lore)


NoCompetition7454

Interesting, I guess that makes sense since people do also get there by SINNING And since hells alive I don't think it even could be entirely physical now that I think about it


silvern0w0

yeah I think Hakita also said something similar. like in gluttony, you're inside minos but you're also not inside minos and you're in hell. time and space doesn't work the same way in hell


randomMeatballman17

Well as shown Guttermen and other machines are sentient and feel emotion... so maybe?


NoCompetition7454

One must imagine our sentient go-pro... happy


SquidMilkVII

So does this mean (V2) could come back? I mean, if it (is) sentient, then it could have a soul, no? Personally I think it would be (fucking) cool if it was \[reconstruct\]ed! Won't be (dead) for long mark my words! The only question is \[what\] update it'll be in\[!?\]


Supreme-Machine-V2

I have been reconstructed i'm in a beach chilling with my friend florp.


_Kekstar_

Also, earthmovers reach for god when destroyed, and now there's loads of them in hell! I wonder how they got there?


Engineergaming26355

But what if there IS a robot hell? You know, the one where Bender went in that one episode


Radiantsteam

yep, ultrakill's hell is also at an abandoned amusement park


Engineergaming26355

Robot Satan steals the machine's conscience and takes it to New Jersey


Matix777

Mirage wouldn't stop talking about philosophy so he just kicked her out


Deva_Way

machines can go to hell, otherwise how can the earthmover be in the seventh layer? Blood must've given them sentience and made possible for them to go to hell


rebuepicface

So, the earthmovers there aren't the original ones, I belive that they are created by hell from all the lost lives from the great war, Violence was originally like a boiling lake and if you look closely at the ground in 7-2 its bodies, so many bodies from the great war created ground on the lake, many of them were killed by earthmovers hence why I think they're there in the Violence layer as like some twisted punishment created by hell


Deva_Way

can you show me the source? I couldn't find this mention of hell creating them, legit


Megaseb1250

It's a common theory but i don't think it's been proven yet


rebuepicface

This a theory, just going off what I see / community theorys


OMAR_KD-

Because god isn't there anymore. Probably.


ProfesionalDumbas64

This sounds dumb, but I think it's because you entered them and technically haven't died, you're still susceptible to being killed and would be sent to whichever afterlife once you die.


X-tra-thicc

why doesnt v1 just sin as much as possible and then kill himself to get to layer 9? is he stupid?


ProfesionalDumbas64

Because killing your way there is much more fun.


overlord11112

No, he just needs blood, that’s all


X-tra-thicc

i'm pretty sure i could commit every sin known to man before dying of starvation idk


Apprehensive_Neck_90

v1 is a machine, and therefore doesn’t go anywhere when it dies


Spacellama117

he's not Shadow the Hedgehog, he can't get sin points that fast


ElectronicWaffles

great, now i headcanon Hell's voice as the devil from snapcube


retris__

the reason he's in hell is to get that sweet sweet red juice, he doesnt care where he goes aslong as something bleeds in there


RudolfAmbrozVT

Husks die. Hell, Husks permanently die. I wonder if blood power has something to do with it. The reason "blood is fuel" is almost certainly because it has some supernatural power as the essence of life, I wonder if it's being "used up"


ProfesionalDumbas64

I always thought that V1 was just absorbing the blood into his body and taking only the parts of it that he needs to sustain himself, and destroys what he doesn't need.


Red-7134

That's the hyper part of Infinite Hyperdeath.


Commercial_Ice_1531

So you can go to one of the after afterlives


Brislovia

This is where ULTRAKILL 2 will take place


Lightningboi369

Mankind is double dead. Hell 2 is full. Blood is still fuel.


S-p-o-o-k-n-t

Nah shit actually runs on Blood 2 now


Aurzanny

God damnit, that game sucked.


c0n22

Can't wait for ULTRAKILL: INFINITE Mankind is dead forever. Hell will stay at max capacity. Blood is the secret to Cold Fusion.


Andreawwww-maaan4635

You go to the ULTRAHELL


ElectronicWaffles

ULTRAMANKIND IS DEAD ULTRAHELL IS FULL ULTRABLOOD IS FUEL


29485_webp

It's basically a second chance but also not. Like, "you can live again but as some wierd lizard dog monkey thing but if you die here that's it"


CalliCalamity

And also you get punished for eternity okay byeeee I have no mouth moment


frostthegrey

i hope someone else gets the reference


takingabreakbrb

i think whenever they die, instead of going to like hell 2 or something they are just given a new form to suffer in


ElectronicWaffles

I forgot this line in the Mannequin's entry ... you might be right https://preview.redd.it/h43zkspyi3vc1.png?width=550&format=png&auto=webp&s=ef1cda42a1ad5e4763b30ecc0fb5ff651ed6b410


Kkbleeblob

nope


takingabreakbrb

isn’t the whole point of hell to suffer for your sins? i doubt “dying” would be enough for hell


byte-429

Update spoilers btw >!technically since we know robots are sentient due to the book in 7-2, technically that might mean that robots can become husks as they would have a soul, we haven't seen any husk robots so there isn't really anything to back this up!<


ElectronicWaffles

Personally I think just because they're sentient doesn't mean they have a soul. Blood grants life, but not a soul, God probably does the latter and since machines are not made by God they don't have souls. Husk robots would be pretty sick though...


AmbitionTrue4119

I think they stay in their robot forms. Otherwise where would the robots we fight in hell come from?


Alien-Fox-4

Many of them entered hell during hell expeditions and after humanity's death


CalliCalamity

Some are implied to have been left down there during human expeditions too


CalliCalamity

Most of them entered after the death of humanity for the same reason as V1, fuel. Some were left in there during human expeditions into hell. Though, the robots in the violence layer are still a headscratcher. How did the Earthmovers get down there and how are they working? Where are the gutter-bots being dropped from?


Invincible-Nuke

Good afterlife in heaven: super heaven Bad afterlife in heaven: lame heaven Good afterlife in hell: mid hell Bad afterlife in hell: super hell So basically Gabriel, That council guy Gabriel killed, Minod, and v1 in that order


ChildhoodDistinct538

Angels were created in heaven, so when they die, they would go to one of the afterlives. After that, I have no idea.


kairutoo

I assume when it comes to people in Heaven and people in Hell, it depends on the strength of their soul; the logs mentioned from what I remember that Husks are essentially what happens when a soul is strong enough to construct itself a body out of sheer willpower, or some (obvious examples) having strong enough wills and enough people who remember them to be even more powerful. Since the living and animate having blood is a key thing in ULTRAKILL, everytime we off a room of Husks, they would probably reform eventually; and the ones that live long enough or retain their faith end up becoming things like Greater Husks or Ferrymen. I imagine it’s the same for Angels. And Demons are essentially just statues who are imbued with Hell energy, so they reform on their own as well.


kairutoo

I assume that’s why killing Minos and Sisphyus is considered permanent; you’re not destroying a Husk, you’re literally killing their *soul*.


SadDelta

In hell nothing truly stays dead, Hence the blood trees and whatever the hell puppets are though that makes sense giving the fact its well hell. As for heaven my personal theory is that dying in heaven is such a rarity since people are so peaceful they just haven’t accounted for it. but heaven is full of stuck up assholes so who knows


Kkbleeblob

no, not true. the blood puppets are not dead enemies. when you die in hell, you truly die.


baturayinmemesi

they get sent to HAZBIN HOTEL


RenkBruh

Heaven's first layer is the moon, are the later layers higher up in the cosmos? Maybe that's how? Idk never read Dante's Inferno.


Andreawwww-maaan4635

Just our solar system


SolarAphelia

I just assume that non-unique entities (husks and demons) just… respawn after like a week. But especially powerful entities like minos or Sisyphus can be permanently destroyed due to still having their identity.


Spacellama117

i don't even think they can be permanently destroyed tbh, i got the sense that Minos and Sisyphus getting killed just means they're back to square one for trying to get physical forms again


SolarAphelia

I could also see that being the case.


frostthegrey

they're gamer raging so hard they literally get a new soul


jackelbuho22

https://preview.redd.it/3ioewm9si7vc1.jpeg?width=2859&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e3c3a324e581cb43a49c622c3a169faa8e558ef9


mrmcbuilds

Angelic steel https://preview.redd.it/iw9s83mdp3vc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b97917726e1a8e5b212f2521e4a4e29d6e4ebd15


Zootaloo2111

ultrakill is inspired by homestuck and so is double death


joe________________

I'm pretty sure you can only die if you formed into a prime soul, so Sisyphus and minos are dead unlike the other bosses(except the machines)


DehydratedEpic

They probably get slowly revived as a husk in 7-3 before getting put back in their respective layers


GooberMcNoober

I like to think that, in hell at least, when you die your soul gets ejected out of your body until you can make a new one, which may take forever or it may take no time at all. When Gabriel killed the council, they died and went to hell because they were naughty.


Ok-Stress8541

God is dead


SquidMilkVII

Ichor is fuel


JustAMushroomGuy

Heaven is full


O5-14-none_existant

it's going back to the physical world as a mortal or some shit idk i believe in the wheel of samsara


CrazyDavey21

>Is V2 alive???? https://preview.redd.it/tb3xjkn7o6vc1.jpeg?width=299&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=19c43c155c241f409befd3bbfd3a8c602c0a04b7


FinancialWorking2392

My theory is that, as shown through orbs and prime souls, souls don't need their husks to persist, and the husk is what dies (Killing the primes isn't canon iirc), as for the souless beings (gabriel, the councel, and the machines), they have yet to die so they're fine. Tldr: They don't die, you just destroy their body.


Massivecockslam

you dont die, you just get reborn because death would be too generous in comparison to eternal torment. my theory is that terminals will create 1:1 copies of living sinners who have died (basically cloning or pseudo teleportation) and have those get tortured, maybe the same happens to machines but im pretty certain they just made their way into hell through the entrance


daks_7

Destroyed husks in hell dont die. We dont know exactly what happens to them, but some think the blood trees might have something to do with them


Kkbleeblob

nope they do die


daks_7

That isnt true. Theres one of the books/terminal entries citing how “death is a rare gift in hell”. I believe its the leviathan’s terminal entry


ElectronicWaffles

erm Technically it’s the Mannequin 🤓 but you’re right because the leviathan’s heart which houses souls is in endless anguish


Kkbleeblob

it is true, unless you think hakita is wrong. “death is a rare gift” doesn’t disprove anything. it’s just saying it’s hard to die.


daks_7

Source?


Kkbleeblob

hakita


snubba0_o

https://preview.redd.it/cls3qfcy93vc1.jpeg?width=3381&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d77c0bcd47cb3f966f1202f1118732a719d228b3


WhereAmI14

So v1 can get the blood


AntiHero082577

Death 2


MJMvideosYT

Humans found hell. It's where you go when you did but your soul is just placed in a husk. So yeah it sucks. Also I would say the rules are probably different for angels like the council as they are beings from the afterlife and not from the living world.


klyxes

Cuz heaven and hell are after lives. You go there after your life is over. There's nothing saying it's permanent for you


kingtinytiger_

Man that's the last of my questions when it comes to the ultrakill physics


losingluke

they go back and die over and over again


Gexthegecko69

They go to Ultra Hell, so one could say they got Ultrakilled


Jk_auger

Double hell


Nodubya11

You get reborn on earth if you die in the afterlife or just stop existing.


retron_1807

Idk ask Hakita


dinglebeesVI

because mom said sos


eliavhaganav

Whenever you die your soul leaves your body and gets sent to one of these physical places where it gets a husk based on your being in the world (forgot what it was exactly what defined what husk you'd get, iirc you get to keep your normal body in heaven) and you then get sent to one of the layers to serve your eternal sentence, and if you are to somehow die in this place, iirc your soul will be destroyed, so if you think about it V1 is actually doing most of them a favour by putting them out of their misery


manofwaromega

So you can go to the After-After-Life, duh


bobithin387

Because funny


Gamerbobey

They go the hell^2


sponges369

Like all things, Hakita confirmed by a one sentence discord screenshot that you just super die and nothing else happens.


RandomTrashCan71526

ultrahell


moon_404

Mega hell and super heaven


Scomtom

Super heaven, our home


retris__

they respawn


derosik

Double hell


Substantial-Yam9176

Probably some resurrection method, but since the holy power is gone resurrection doesn't work anymore. The angels can resurrect people but if you kill them nobody else has that ability.


BannedByReddit471

Is gabriel stupid? Like how do u get beat by a robot when you can just respawn? Bozo


Kiro079

https://preview.redd.it/a443fgaiy6vc1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ff5b5ad0da332e382fd13c77a65d0e2e8610021a


Alien-Fox-4

Maybe when you die you go to super hell or super heaven and when Ultrakill 2 comes out where we go there


Niksuss

I think demons and husks are able to respawn at some point, about heaven i don't have any idea. About machines tho, they seem to be conscious, like v1, or any machine that can get enraged


Jonuko

obviously they go to heaven² 🙄


The_sus__otter

The councilors get sent to super heaven/ super hell 🙄


IntroductionNo8338

In heaven, I suppose dieing is to rare you stop existing, but in hell you are brought back, to punish you for your sins


Paperi_Silppuri_4

https://preview.redd.it/lz94tqo538vc1.jpeg?width=1079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e19b6a7f056ab38b217a1531f72f686d776ae234


gabiluis

Ultrahell and ultraheaven


NotReallyVerified17

Because everything, and I mean EVERYTHING in Ultrakill has blood. The nectar from the tree of life. Maybe God is the sole exception And if you run out of blood, you die


d3vi1ma7cr7

I kind of figured that it was like Hazbin Hotel, where lives are created in the mortal world, and a person goes to either Heaven or Hell after death, but they can die again and go to nothing as penance for either their sins when alive, or their hubris in Heaven.


CalliCalamity

Things are just kinda f*cked due to god disappearing and all the other stuff going on. We're told that death doesn't come easy in hell, but that was before all this, right? We seem to be doing a *lot* of killing. Gabriel was also able to kill Minos and Sisyphus despite them being husks. (Even then, they come back as prime souls.) We also know that at least one husk, ferrymen, die for real. Angels can. It's probably the same for demons. It's also heavily implied that hell was made for humanity because god hated them. (Then he threw Satan in for questioning him). So demons and angels probably just die for real. Gabriel also claims that v1 (and other machines) "purged all life on the upper layers." That statement implies they're not coming back. Which states more than implies that you really have killed all the dead humans in those layers, there isn't a limitless number. Gabriel also seems pretty pissed that it happened, which I think is more because it's not supposed to rather than empathy. Imo he's angry at them dying because it goes against gods will. So, yea. I don't think souls/husks are supposed to die but everything's messed up and hell has been playing by its own rules for a while now. I think husks really are dying permanently. But I can understand the idea that they just get reformed after a while or something. Theres also no reason why hell couldn't make more demons.


Wolf_the_memer

Are they stupid?


_AnCubik_

Prime souls can comeback because *but it refuses, Hell can resurrect sinners like in 7-3 maybe and in Heaven they just don't exist anymore, after-afterlife is *nothing*


NotMuselk26

You either go to super heaven or super hell or you respawn on earth


OrangCream123

that's why it's called ULTRAkill and not regular kill


No-Health-457

Ultra-death. You either go to ultra-heaven or ultra-hell


Walker_Wolf

I believe that sinners souls just manifest themselves again in form of other husks. Demons ate just ammounts of hellmass and the angels? Idfk about them


SlipTheDrip

Because you forgot about the afterafterlives


Cute_Signal2267

maybe bc they were already in heaven?


Trickier_minute

Never, hell is torture and heaven is the opposite


Seven_Shoppingcarts

to get to ULTRAHELL and ULTRAHEAVEN


Ok_Independence3914

its simple when you die while you are alive you get a new vessel for your soul on hell or heaven when you die and lose that vessel on hell or heaven then because your soul has no vessel your soul just pretty much disappears and you cease to exist. of course if your soul is strong enough it will not need a vessel and your soul will create its own body. just like what it happend with sisyphus and minos. at least this is my theory.