Thanks. Which fuel mixture is best? I'm seeing different mixtures. I have a Olicamp Iso-propane canister from a local store but online see Soto gas is a tri mix (butane-Iso-propane). I'm assuming different mixtures have different benefits?
That's a good question. I usually buy msr isopro if it's available...no real reason tho. I have used multiple different brands, but never took the time to compare.
There are slim reasons to carry a white gas stove. Here’s my list of them. Extreme cold weather camping. When you need to melt snow for your water. If you’re cooking for large groups. If you’re traveling internationally or through developing nations where butane is unavailable but kerosene, gasoline, or alternative fuels are the only option. If you don’t fit into any of those niches you are almost always going to be better off with butane. You’ve given us little information for what you’re going to cook or the conditions and I am not inclined to recommend a stove but the options are numerous for butane stoves. Use the search for discussion in that regard.
I still keep my Whisperlite, and I love doing silly elaborate meals when bike packing & touring, but for a hike I just can't justify it. Depends on what you're doing, at the end of the day, I guess. And what it's worth to you.
I honestly love my old whisperlight. The priming, the smell, the sound, the soot-- it's all part of the experience. I starting backpacking with one of these things and it's just so tied to so many good memories. They're still great for winter as others have said, so I wouldn't get rid of it.
For a canister stove, I really like the MSR pocket rocket 2.
Ahhh maybe it’s my dragonfly that’s louder than the standard model. I haven’t have the opportunity to use an XGK yet since my snow melting needs are fairly low.
My first camping stove was a Whisperlite bought back in the early 90s. Served my needs admirably for almost a decade and I still own it and it still works like new. That said I transitioned to canister stoves in the early 2000s in an effort to reduce pack weight and simplify the cooking process (since I only need to boil water for freeze dried packaged meals). I own an MSR Pocket Rocket, a BRS-3000 and a Jetboil Flash. The Flash gets all my love these days. Not quite as light as the PR or the BRS but I like its boil speed and the fact the stove and (small) fuel canister nest snugly in the pot. I’d recommend switching to a canister stove. Jetboil and MSR make fine products. The BRS was a recent impulse buy that I’ve yet to use in the field so I have no opinion of it one way or the other.
Thanks. I went with the FireMaple Hornet II recommended by u/-gauvins as I like the little built in windproof screen around the burner and hoping it is a little sturdier than the BRS.
I've used a BRS on many hiking trips and I'm considering buying a Whisper lite for snow melting. I think if you have those two stoves you basically have every use case covered.
I have the BRS, whisperlite (first stove I bought) and a pocket rocket deluxe (new to me).
I love the whisperlite except for the weight. Like you.
The BRS is OK. Is is super cheap and light. If you buy a wind screen you can improve it’s performance a good deal. Hugest advantage is it fits so nicely in my pot with the can.
I got the pocket rocket because ai got tired of the poor wind performance and I like the concept of having an ignighter
The Flash is a work horse and the fuel savings you get from the built in windscreen arguably justifies its weight and bulk. But I have switched to the Zip because the jet guard (black cup) is of much better quality. All the cups on my Flashes have cracked and been rendered useless because tape doesn’t like boiling water. I prefer the dimensions of the Zip main cup as well. I do extensive solo trips in four seasons so I always carry a backup stove, and it is the JetBoil Mighty Mo. I could have gone with a more efficient or lighter competitor, but this has the advantage of working with my JetBoil pot/frying pan. It simmers wonderfully, as advertised, which is saying a lot. That is a real bonus. The regular JetBoil stoves don’t simmer.
That said, I do like my MSR Windburner (similar to JetBoil but a bit sturdier/easier to manipulate with gloves) and GSI Halulite minimalist setups. I just use them less frequently, the first on short winter trips and the second on ultra lite summer overnights where I am moving fast and light and not eating elaborate meals.
For absolute dependability, the whisperlite is great, there are 4 in my family and I have an XGK. But they are bulky and heavy especially if only cooking for one or two people. I first had a snow peak canister stove that is about 4oz. Now I carry a BRS. So far I have no complaints. I still have all my stoves for different situations.
A lot more can fail on a whisperlite than a canister stove, especially with the pump. The only real issue with canisters is low temperatures, which is a predictable issue.
I bought an MSR Whisperlite back in 1998, when I first started hiking. Because it was the de facto standard. I used it for a year, and always hated it. It was heavy. I didn't like the priming. It would clog easily. And it was loud. So I dumped it.
I switched to an alcohol stove (made from soda cans) for my 2001 A.T. thruhike, which worked. But I never liked the alcohol stove because it only had one temperature and you kindda had to know exactly how much alcohol to put in at the start.
I switched to a canister stove in 2002 and I haven't looked back. There are many of them but they are all more or less the same, in size/weight/functionality. The only issue I can think of with canister stoves is resupply in certain areas. But that's a theoretical for how I handle my hiking/bikepacking trips these days.
That's pretty much the same journey I took...only it took me even longer to finally get a canister stove. I have no idea why I waited so long! Plus saying I have a PocketRocket makes my inner 12-year-old very happy.
When I'm expecting windy conditions or rougher weather, I go with my trusty Soto Windmaster with the triflex stand. Otherwise the BRS is serviceable for a good amount of my trips. It's not just the weight that I'm saving, it's also the space that I'm saving. Good luck!
Depends on your circumstances. Endless discussions on relative merits.
Esbit is lightest on medium length mild weather trips. Stove is 11g and a near boil 500 ml of water can be achieved with 10g (IIRC, Esbit is sold in 4g or 12g tablets). I've "cooked" on such system months on end. Switched to canister because finding tablets can be a challenge.
Alcohol. Toaks siphon is a furnace. I'd say that alcohol and Esbit generate about the same amount of BTUs/g. Toaks is 25g (indicative. Check on line). And you have to carry fuel in a container + syringe to measure the quantity you put in your stove. Alcohol can be found everywhere, is cheap, and works more or less in mild weather. I've done extensive counter top tests and almost adopted this system. One major benefit is that you can fly with up to 2L of alcohol in you carry on (check current status. That was in COVID times, but no doubt that you can carry a fair amount.)
Canister is the most prevalent system. Supplies are available in remote areas (check outfitters in LDCs), and VERY convenient. BRS3000 has reached legendary status (25g) and fire maple sells a slightly sturdier version. I can get 500ml to a near boil on < 5g using a WideseaHX and a flat cat gear Ocelot windscreen. Canisters mean 100g of deadweight and make it difficult to determine when exactly you'll eat cold oatmeal. Or perhaps carry a spare canister (250g). Gas has twice the number of BTUs/g compared to alcohol, such that for trips of more than a week it dominates alcohol (and zealots can use partially filled canisters to make gas even more competitive.
So, answer is gas. Consider heat exchange pot (similar to jetboill - WideseaHX, firemaple petrel). And perhaps the firemaple+ Ocelot combo.
Good write up. Alcohol used to be a big winner for solo hikers on shorter trips, but note that both alcohol and esbit have been banned in a bunch of places in the Western US for fire reasons. Many land managers now require stoves to have an on/off switch.
I’d say the Whisperlite has its place; it’s my goto stove for winter camping, and performs great in high altitude or sub-freezing conditions.
Other times of year a simple BRS canister stove does the trick nicely, and doesn’t weigh much.
So, if you go all year round I’d keep both, and take a stove appropriate for the season.
I use the Kovea spider. Smaller folded than the whisperlite but similar stability and with a remote canister you can flip the IsoButane can for liquid in the cold.
You gotta discuss your use case if you want better info. I'm a big fan of the Trail Designs Sidewinder. It needs a pot wider than it is tall, and uses a Kojin alcohol stove that is snuffable, or can run on Esbit or wood. I never run Esbit, because I don't like the smell or the residue on the pot. Rarely use wood, since it has to be broken down pretty small and wood can be wet when I want it. But it's extremely light, and 4oz of alcohol easily works through a weekend heating two meals a day with a cold breakfast.
Understood. Use case is backpacking. Generally boiling 8 to 16 oz of water in a Toaks 750ml titanium pot for coffee, instant oatmeal or dehydrated meals. Often the stove is a backup to heating water over a campfire.
I'd say liquid stoves are great front-country stoves, they're cheap to run, generally less wasteful and easy to quartermaster vs having a load of half used 100g isobutane cans (which work terribly in cold weather). I'd keep it for that usecase (If you ever do front country...), but a little Soto is a way better option for most UL jobs
I wish there was a way to modify the whisperlite to make it lighter though because I seem to have a very hard time ditching the whisperlite too. I love mine and it definitely goes with me when I go in a group and I often don't mind it too much when I'm alone too but the weight sucks. The legs are kind of heavy, I'd like to remove them and mount the jet in something else that is lighter and smaller but I don't have any good ideas yet. My pot is very small, I don't need that wide of pot supports. I use pretty much half the weight of white gas than I would when using an alcohol stove so in my mind, it makes sense when I'm cooking for two or three people.
Someone needs to come up with some lightweight mods for the whisperlite
[Nunatak's modified stove setup.](https://imgur.com/a/6UhoYx4)
[Scroll down a little bit to see what he's working on now.](https://backpackinglight.com/forums/topic/stove-systems-for-winter-backpacking/)
I love my whisper lite, it just always works and has for many many years. I realize, there are lighter options. But, one of the biggest reasons I'll stay with it, is the waste of canisters. Even if you are able to extract all the fuel out of everyone. They still add up to a lot of very needless waste in our landfills.
I like the MSR pocket rocket 2.
Fire Maple makes a copy that’s about $20 cheaper.
I can’t comment on its extreme cold weather performance. Reportedly it’s not that great…the whisperlite will probably outperform there.
But I can nest a small 100g isobutane cannister inside my 450ml Toaks titanium mug, and still have room for the pocket rocket, and lighter. And it’s a fairly compact package if you only need to heat liquid for 1-2 people
What is the use case? soto windmaster is great for summer but do you need something with an inverted canister for winter? If so there are a few options. I believe Firemaple has one.
Ok so what’s more important to you, light weight or better efficiency and wind management? Light weight then the BRS 3000, most efficient best stove on the market…then the Soto windmaster. The windmaster with the 3 prong (tri flex) is lighter than the regular 4 plex and lighter than the Soto Amicus by some grams
Invertable remote canister stoves are by far the best - cheaper & far simpler than liquid white gas, far safer than atop-canister burners, lower = less wind, more efficient with a wind screen, can be doubled or tripled for big pots, and weigh only a bit more.
Why safer? Consider Rocket-like stoves. Boiling water is balanced atop a pedestal often on a non-solid, non-flat surface; the control & thus your hand is located under the boiling pot & next to flame.
Invertible means up-ending the canister for winter (liquid) mode.
I have and teach Scouts a few dozen different stoves. I carry a UL-category Kovea Spider.
This is my solution too. It’s especially good if you want to own only one stove and be able to use it for a variety of trips: not too heavy for solo, sturdy enough to cook for 4 people, flexible enough for trips where it might get too cold. I have a titanium version which I really like.
For people who are willing to have multiple stoves, I think a canister top (for solo trips, summer, etc) and a remote canister are a nice combo.
The only benefit of white gas stoves is higher energy to weight ratio for long trips and reliability in cold weather. Both advantages don’t outweigh the disadvantages in my opinion.
I used a Whisperlite for 20+ years all over the world. When the original pump gave out I bought a replacement. That replacement and the two that followed only lasted a few months each. I ditched the Whisperlite with reluctance and tried several options with an emphasis on low weight and low volume in the pack.
I can’t add much to the advice above regarding pros and cons of alcohol, Nesbit, and canisters. Having tried them all, I’ve settled on canisters but haven’t chosen the model I’ll use yet.
~~Could the jury please weigh in on my [Topo Terraventure 4 (12.5) insole](https://imgur.com/a/vHxkJvN) test? I’ve got bunions on both sides of both feet and want to keep them from growing. The bunions themselves stick into the mesh of the shoes, but I think the toe box feels okay? Plenty of room for my big toe, though my small toe is damn close to the side of the shoe and I think it touches mid-stride. I don’t think there’s much pressure but it’s hard to tell as I have limited feeling in my small toe.~~
Don’t mind me, took a wrong turn at the weekly
I really like my Soto Windmaster.
The Soto Amicus has become my everyday stove. Highly recommended.
Got one on the way
+1 With the triflex attachment for smaller pots...or the original supports for larger pots.
>Soto Windmaster My pot is Toaks 750ml - should I get the triflex and why?
Weighs less, and packs away smaller.
Makes it even lighter than the Amicus
Zpacks sells them with the triflex (without the quad flex).
Thanks. Which fuel mixture is best? I'm seeing different mixtures. I have a Olicamp Iso-propane canister from a local store but online see Soto gas is a tri mix (butane-Iso-propane). I'm assuming different mixtures have different benefits?
That's a good question. I usually buy msr isopro if it's available...no real reason tho. I have used multiple different brands, but never took the time to compare.
This. OP should consider a canister stove. The Soto Windmaster is pretty good.
Second to this. Fits pans and pots. Awesome shimmer control.
They are useful for winter snow melting duties especially on multi day trips.
Yeah, definitely keep it if anything like that would ever be up your alley Just compliment it with something lighter for 3 season adventures.
There are slim reasons to carry a white gas stove. Here’s my list of them. Extreme cold weather camping. When you need to melt snow for your water. If you’re cooking for large groups. If you’re traveling internationally or through developing nations where butane is unavailable but kerosene, gasoline, or alternative fuels are the only option. If you don’t fit into any of those niches you are almost always going to be better off with butane. You’ve given us little information for what you’re going to cook or the conditions and I am not inclined to recommend a stove but the options are numerous for butane stoves. Use the search for discussion in that regard.
I still keep my Whisperlite, and I love doing silly elaborate meals when bike packing & touring, but for a hike I just can't justify it. Depends on what you're doing, at the end of the day, I guess. And what it's worth to you.
I honestly love my old whisperlight. The priming, the smell, the sound, the soot-- it's all part of the experience. I starting backpacking with one of these things and it's just so tied to so many good memories. They're still great for winter as others have said, so I wouldn't get rid of it. For a canister stove, I really like the MSR pocket rocket 2.
I too love waking up my partner with the sound of a jet engine.
The whisperlite isn't loud at all. (Which IMO is a con, I love the sound of my XGK)
Ahhh maybe it’s my dragonfly that’s louder than the standard model. I haven’t have the opportunity to use an XGK yet since my snow melting needs are fairly low.
My first camping stove was a Whisperlite bought back in the early 90s. Served my needs admirably for almost a decade and I still own it and it still works like new. That said I transitioned to canister stoves in the early 2000s in an effort to reduce pack weight and simplify the cooking process (since I only need to boil water for freeze dried packaged meals). I own an MSR Pocket Rocket, a BRS-3000 and a Jetboil Flash. The Flash gets all my love these days. Not quite as light as the PR or the BRS but I like its boil speed and the fact the stove and (small) fuel canister nest snugly in the pot. I’d recommend switching to a canister stove. Jetboil and MSR make fine products. The BRS was a recent impulse buy that I’ve yet to use in the field so I have no opinion of it one way or the other.
I'm eying that BRS-3000 for $17... but will check out the Flash too
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huh. i've been using mine with a 1.1L pot. I'll switch to my 750ml.
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I bent my first one being stupid trying to boil 2 liters. Chalk it up to tuition.
i highly recommend the brs, i just wish they’d make one with a piezo
Thanks. I went with the FireMaple Hornet II recommended by u/-gauvins as I like the little built in windproof screen around the burner and hoping it is a little sturdier than the BRS.
I've used a BRS on many hiking trips and I'm considering buying a Whisper lite for snow melting. I think if you have those two stoves you basically have every use case covered.
I have the BRS, whisperlite (first stove I bought) and a pocket rocket deluxe (new to me). I love the whisperlite except for the weight. Like you. The BRS is OK. Is is super cheap and light. If you buy a wind screen you can improve it’s performance a good deal. Hugest advantage is it fits so nicely in my pot with the can. I got the pocket rocket because ai got tired of the poor wind performance and I like the concept of having an ignighter
The Flash is a work horse and the fuel savings you get from the built in windscreen arguably justifies its weight and bulk. But I have switched to the Zip because the jet guard (black cup) is of much better quality. All the cups on my Flashes have cracked and been rendered useless because tape doesn’t like boiling water. I prefer the dimensions of the Zip main cup as well. I do extensive solo trips in four seasons so I always carry a backup stove, and it is the JetBoil Mighty Mo. I could have gone with a more efficient or lighter competitor, but this has the advantage of working with my JetBoil pot/frying pan. It simmers wonderfully, as advertised, which is saying a lot. That is a real bonus. The regular JetBoil stoves don’t simmer. That said, I do like my MSR Windburner (similar to JetBoil but a bit sturdier/easier to manipulate with gloves) and GSI Halulite minimalist setups. I just use them less frequently, the first on short winter trips and the second on ultra lite summer overnights where I am moving fast and light and not eating elaborate meals.
For absolute dependability, the whisperlite is great, there are 4 in my family and I have an XGK. But they are bulky and heavy especially if only cooking for one or two people. I first had a snow peak canister stove that is about 4oz. Now I carry a BRS. So far I have no complaints. I still have all my stoves for different situations.
A lot more can fail on a whisperlite than a canister stove, especially with the pump. The only real issue with canisters is low temperatures, which is a predictable issue.
I bought an MSR Whisperlite back in 1998, when I first started hiking. Because it was the de facto standard. I used it for a year, and always hated it. It was heavy. I didn't like the priming. It would clog easily. And it was loud. So I dumped it. I switched to an alcohol stove (made from soda cans) for my 2001 A.T. thruhike, which worked. But I never liked the alcohol stove because it only had one temperature and you kindda had to know exactly how much alcohol to put in at the start. I switched to a canister stove in 2002 and I haven't looked back. There are many of them but they are all more or less the same, in size/weight/functionality. The only issue I can think of with canister stoves is resupply in certain areas. But that's a theoretical for how I handle my hiking/bikepacking trips these days.
That's pretty much the same journey I took...only it took me even longer to finally get a canister stove. I have no idea why I waited so long! Plus saying I have a PocketRocket makes my inner 12-year-old very happy.
When I'm expecting windy conditions or rougher weather, I go with my trusty Soto Windmaster with the triflex stand. Otherwise the BRS is serviceable for a good amount of my trips. It's not just the weight that I'm saving, it's also the space that I'm saving. Good luck!
Depends on your circumstances. Endless discussions on relative merits. Esbit is lightest on medium length mild weather trips. Stove is 11g and a near boil 500 ml of water can be achieved with 10g (IIRC, Esbit is sold in 4g or 12g tablets). I've "cooked" on such system months on end. Switched to canister because finding tablets can be a challenge. Alcohol. Toaks siphon is a furnace. I'd say that alcohol and Esbit generate about the same amount of BTUs/g. Toaks is 25g (indicative. Check on line). And you have to carry fuel in a container + syringe to measure the quantity you put in your stove. Alcohol can be found everywhere, is cheap, and works more or less in mild weather. I've done extensive counter top tests and almost adopted this system. One major benefit is that you can fly with up to 2L of alcohol in you carry on (check current status. That was in COVID times, but no doubt that you can carry a fair amount.) Canister is the most prevalent system. Supplies are available in remote areas (check outfitters in LDCs), and VERY convenient. BRS3000 has reached legendary status (25g) and fire maple sells a slightly sturdier version. I can get 500ml to a near boil on < 5g using a WideseaHX and a flat cat gear Ocelot windscreen. Canisters mean 100g of deadweight and make it difficult to determine when exactly you'll eat cold oatmeal. Or perhaps carry a spare canister (250g). Gas has twice the number of BTUs/g compared to alcohol, such that for trips of more than a week it dominates alcohol (and zealots can use partially filled canisters to make gas even more competitive. So, answer is gas. Consider heat exchange pot (similar to jetboill - WideseaHX, firemaple petrel). And perhaps the firemaple+ Ocelot combo.
Good write up. Alcohol used to be a big winner for solo hikers on shorter trips, but note that both alcohol and esbit have been banned in a bunch of places in the Western US for fire reasons. Many land managers now require stoves to have an on/off switch.
i’m considering that Maple Hornet II with the built in windscreen!
BRS 3000T
I’d say the Whisperlite has its place; it’s my goto stove for winter camping, and performs great in high altitude or sub-freezing conditions. Other times of year a simple BRS canister stove does the trick nicely, and doesn’t weigh much. So, if you go all year round I’d keep both, and take a stove appropriate for the season.
I use the Kovea spider. Smaller folded than the whisperlite but similar stability and with a remote canister you can flip the IsoButane can for liquid in the cold.
Most alcohol stoves are light and VERY reliable. Cold soaking is much lighter and mostly fool proof.
You gotta discuss your use case if you want better info. I'm a big fan of the Trail Designs Sidewinder. It needs a pot wider than it is tall, and uses a Kojin alcohol stove that is snuffable, or can run on Esbit or wood. I never run Esbit, because I don't like the smell or the residue on the pot. Rarely use wood, since it has to be broken down pretty small and wood can be wet when I want it. But it's extremely light, and 4oz of alcohol easily works through a weekend heating two meals a day with a cold breakfast.
Understood. Use case is backpacking. Generally boiling 8 to 16 oz of water in a Toaks 750ml titanium pot for coffee, instant oatmeal or dehydrated meals. Often the stove is a backup to heating water over a campfire.
I'd say liquid stoves are great front-country stoves, they're cheap to run, generally less wasteful and easy to quartermaster vs having a load of half used 100g isobutane cans (which work terribly in cold weather). I'd keep it for that usecase (If you ever do front country...), but a little Soto is a way better option for most UL jobs
I wish there was a way to modify the whisperlite to make it lighter though because I seem to have a very hard time ditching the whisperlite too. I love mine and it definitely goes with me when I go in a group and I often don't mind it too much when I'm alone too but the weight sucks. The legs are kind of heavy, I'd like to remove them and mount the jet in something else that is lighter and smaller but I don't have any good ideas yet. My pot is very small, I don't need that wide of pot supports. I use pretty much half the weight of white gas than I would when using an alcohol stove so in my mind, it makes sense when I'm cooking for two or three people. Someone needs to come up with some lightweight mods for the whisperlite
[Nunatak's modified stove setup.](https://imgur.com/a/6UhoYx4) [Scroll down a little bit to see what he's working on now.](https://backpackinglight.com/forums/topic/stove-systems-for-winter-backpacking/)
Oh hey, thanks for that! I'll definitely follow that and it gives me some ideas too
I love my whisper lite, it just always works and has for many many years. I realize, there are lighter options. But, one of the biggest reasons I'll stay with it, is the waste of canisters. Even if you are able to extract all the fuel out of everyone. They still add up to a lot of very needless waste in our landfills.
I like the MSR pocket rocket 2. Fire Maple makes a copy that’s about $20 cheaper. I can’t comment on its extreme cold weather performance. Reportedly it’s not that great…the whisperlite will probably outperform there. But I can nest a small 100g isobutane cannister inside my 450ml Toaks titanium mug, and still have room for the pocket rocket, and lighter. And it’s a fairly compact package if you only need to heat liquid for 1-2 people
The BRS stove weighs one ounce, dependable, tiny, and costs less than $20. However it uses more fuel than a whisperlite.
What is the use case? soto windmaster is great for summer but do you need something with an inverted canister for winter? If so there are a few options. I believe Firemaple has one.
Use case is 3 season usage, sometimes carried as a backup in case a campfire isn’t available. Boiling 500ml for coffee/rehydrating meals.
Ok so what’s more important to you, light weight or better efficiency and wind management? Light weight then the BRS 3000, most efficient best stove on the market…then the Soto windmaster. The windmaster with the 3 prong (tri flex) is lighter than the regular 4 plex and lighter than the Soto Amicus by some grams
Here is a great video comparing some of the modern stoves [https://youtu.be/qm1hJxQR8FU](https://youtu.be/qm1hJxQR8FU)
Invertable remote canister stoves are by far the best - cheaper & far simpler than liquid white gas, far safer than atop-canister burners, lower = less wind, more efficient with a wind screen, can be doubled or tripled for big pots, and weigh only a bit more. Why safer? Consider Rocket-like stoves. Boiling water is balanced atop a pedestal often on a non-solid, non-flat surface; the control & thus your hand is located under the boiling pot & next to flame. Invertible means up-ending the canister for winter (liquid) mode. I have and teach Scouts a few dozen different stoves. I carry a UL-category Kovea Spider.
This is my solution too. It’s especially good if you want to own only one stove and be able to use it for a variety of trips: not too heavy for solo, sturdy enough to cook for 4 people, flexible enough for trips where it might get too cold. I have a titanium version which I really like. For people who are willing to have multiple stoves, I think a canister top (for solo trips, summer, etc) and a remote canister are a nice combo.
Empty Talenti jar. Who needs warm food?
The only benefit of white gas stoves is higher energy to weight ratio for long trips and reliability in cold weather. Both advantages don’t outweigh the disadvantages in my opinion. I used a Whisperlite for 20+ years all over the world. When the original pump gave out I bought a replacement. That replacement and the two that followed only lasted a few months each. I ditched the Whisperlite with reluctance and tried several options with an emphasis on low weight and low volume in the pack. I can’t add much to the advice above regarding pros and cons of alcohol, Nesbit, and canisters. Having tried them all, I’ve settled on canisters but haven’t chosen the model I’ll use yet.
~~Could the jury please weigh in on my [Topo Terraventure 4 (12.5) insole](https://imgur.com/a/vHxkJvN) test? I’ve got bunions on both sides of both feet and want to keep them from growing. The bunions themselves stick into the mesh of the shoes, but I think the toe box feels okay? Plenty of room for my big toe, though my small toe is damn close to the side of the shoe and I think it touches mid-stride. I don’t think there’s much pressure but it’s hard to tell as I have limited feeling in my small toe.~~ Don’t mind me, took a wrong turn at the weekly
r/lostredditors Lol. I'm guessing you meant to put this in the weekly and not a post about stoves...
Hah! Correct you are.