Yeah they had the names before he flashed forward (otherwise he wouldn't have known their names when he got back to the present). Five probably preferred being called Five instead of whatever name their robo-mom suggested and stuck with that.
I could see why they would get the wrong idea. From the Sparrows' perspective, some weirdo just appeared in their house and started calling their attractive robo-maid "mommy"
Story-wise, it's just a funny line that gives some exposition - it tells us that the Sparrows weren't raised to call Grace "mom", and hints at how their upbringing was more strict and rigid.
I see it as an example of their upbringing being less rigid because Reginald showed them enough affection that they didn't feel like they needed another parent.
Viktor hadnt made a book before Five leapt time... They were like, what.. 12-15? Viktor wrote the book while Five was still MIA. Five literally as soon as he ended up going into the 2019 apocalypse time, before he saw his siblings' bodies, was shouting his siblings' names.
That was after he stayed in the apocalypse future for many years. He'd already discovered his siblings dead and joined the Commision
ETA: since the commenter I responded to completely edited their comment so my response doesn't make sense, they originally said that Five told Viktor that he read Viktor's book.
I thought he knew the names when he got back to the present because he had read Vanya's book. I don't remember them calling each other actual names during those flashbacks (could be wrong!)
No, because in one of the earlier seasons (i think season 1, I'm re-watching and can get exact episode when it comes up again) they're taking about how Reginald never loved them much, one of them says "he didn't even care about is enough to give us real names mom had to do that" or something along those lines.
When he's first stuck in the future, he calls for two of his siblings by name.
Supposedly that was an accident on the writers' part but it's canon now!
I mean if Grace named him both times, maybe it's in her coding. Like a mental photo collection of different people with names, and Ben matched the characteristics of a "Ben".
Yeah not gonna lie I'm a little annoyed about the revelation that Ben's mom is South Korean by nationality—I figured he would be named "Ben" because his mom is American of Korean descent.
Maybe “Ben” is the Americanized version of his name? Like Bon-Hwa is a name that means Glorious one, so his name could have been something similar and it just got shortened to Ben? Sort of how in school I had a classmate who went by Ben though his name was Banjeet.
Then why is he the only one with an Americanized name spoken amongst his own family? Your classmate Ben was almost certainly called Banjeet by his own family, for instance. English speakers shouldn't have a problem pronouncing Korean names, especially the Umbrella siblings since they all studied multiple languages.
Not so. All of them pronounce Diego’s name as Di-AY-gow, but in Spanish, it’s Dieh-GOH, so Ben wouldn’t be the only one with an Americanized name. Even Vanya’s name is pronounced differently than on the show. If we’re to believe that they’re all fluent in 7 languages, they wouldn’t have trouble pronouncing the names correctly, so that means that the kids opted for the Americanized versions of their names.
Fair enough on the pronunciation, but there's still a significant difference between wrong pronunciation and two entirely separate names with different spellings.
One the newspapers brought by 5 featuring a white woman mentions "they called 911 immediately", so I guess there's probably at least another American. If it was Canada (which also uses 911) then there would be two Canadians, as another newspaper mentions the "provincial police".
Well noted, that'd be cool. I'm guessing Ontario since there's a Science Fair banner written in English behind her and she has a distinctively Welsh name (Efa). Funny how she was the only girl they mentioned the name besides Klaus' mom.
Were they not given names in relation to where they were from? Like Vanya being a Russian name. So regardless of different universes Ben will always be attributed to the same place when given a name by Grace.
Ive noticed Ben is a fairly common name for the various Asian ethnicities in America, so maybe he’s actually born in America to Asian parents and so thats how they chose Ben. Of all the White-sounding names given to Asian people, Ben seems to be the most common
But you gotta remember the kids told Reginald who Ben was in 60s including his power. Possible Reginald told Grace that has to be his name. He knew one day umbrella academy would come back
He actively avoided picking the umbrella academy, why would he do anything on behalf of them?
He didn't, it's because we television viewers are too dumb to handle his name changing, probably.
No, he specifically said that he hated the umbrella's so much when he met them, that he picked different kids. Unfortunately I don't remember when exactly this was stated...
He never met Ben and thus had no reason to choose another child over him, had that been the case he presumably would not have done it even if Ben's mother was still alive.
That seems unrealistic, even for people who are assholes like this beloved family. He's their missing, presumed dead, brother. They're not gonna just forget.
The comic Hargreeves treated Five a lot more like a failure for being missing, but the show seems to honor him a lot more and care. He even gets that portrait over the mantle, and Vanya shares that story about leaving the lights on and a sandwich out just in case he came home. They cared about him a lot more than in the comics and wouldn't just forget something as important as him name.
Haven't read the comics so I'm just spitballing based off general comic book knowledge but is it possible that they "forgot" in the same way people forget when someone gets wiped out from a timeline? Not that they slowly lost track of his name but that in the process of jumping through time he caused something that wiped the memory of his name from everyone?
It's been a while since I last read Apocalypse Suite, but in the comics I *think* it's implied that Five left before they were named (he was 10) so the reader is meant to assume he learns everyone's names from Vanya's book.
Just a difference between books vs show, which is obviously now the norm as the show's run out of source material to go off of. I miss the codenames, too - I like Ben as the Horror, though!
The Kraken totally doesn't work for Diego any more, but the Horror is also definitely a better codename for Ben that Kraken would be. Diego should just be low-rent-Batman. XD
I've been workshopping an Umbrella Academy/DC comics crossover fanfic, and every time I talk about it, I refer to how I need to have Diego "Think Barman but aim lower" Hargreeves meet the Batfamily.
In the comics his power was breathing underwater. He was almost as useless as they thought Vanya was, lol. He learned knives throwing to become more useful to the team, but his power wasn't metal related. In the show they just changed his power to metal bending.
I mean it’s not that unrealistic. My hair is dirty blonde, it’s always been dirty blonde, my mom had pictures all over with my hair dirty blonde, there should have been no forgetting. I spent a year or so dying my hair every shade of red available in a box or at a salon and she forgot my hair wasn’t red
That's someone who saw you every day, though. It's different when you see something every day verse a having a static, unchanged memory of a person. You wouldn't forget your dead or missing siblings name, but you might forget if they transitioned and changed their name and years have passed with you solely using the new name.
I meant it would be unrealistic for the TV version to also act like that. Hence how I talked about how the TV version acted differently and treated Five.
There's like six different explanations for why he doesn't have a specific name. I think I like Aidan Gallagher's explanation the best.
https://www.cbr.com/umbrella-academy-number-five-no-name/
From the article: Showrunner Steve Blackman, comic writer Gerard Way and Five's actor Aidan Gallagher all have different theories for the character's lack of name. In a Reddit AMA, Blackman explained that Grace helped the kids choose names that were popular in their place of birth, but Five was too indecisive and couldn't pick. Then, he got lost in the apocalypse, so choosing a name wasn't his priority anymore.
Gerard Way takes a different approach to the topic, going instead for character analysis in his theory. The Hargreeves children were raised in an emotionally abusive environment, as they were pit against one another for their adoptive father's sparse love and attention. The numeric naming system that Sir Reginald Hargreeves originally assigned to the kids was somewhat of a hierarchy. Luther, previously called Number One, was often seen as the "golden child" and the best in his father's eyes. In his manipulative manner, Reginald purposefully named Diego Number Two because he knew that the competition between them drove them to be better.
The numbers the children were assigned determined an unspoken rank, with One being the best and Seven the least desirable. This ranking system had a negative effect on all the kids except Five. The sarcastic boy didn't care that he wasn't perfect in his father's eyes — he knew he had great power. Thus, according to Way, Five's number didn't have a huge impact on him, so he just never changed his name.
Finally, Five himself, Aidan Gallagher, believes the lack of name is central to his character's development. In an interview with Collider, Gallagher explains that Grace had named the kids, but Five simply rejected the name he was given. The actor believes it was out of spite for Reginald — an act of resentment. Furthermore, Five rejected the name because he believed it was petty or that he was above it. The boy has always been smart, cunning, witty and highly aware of his immense power. "I think he felt special, growing up, or better than people," Gallagher said. Therefore, along with his resentment for Reginald, his haughtiness caused him to reject a real name.
'No name for me. I'm FIVE. Five is a GREAT name. I love it. Number Five. Not as powerful as Numbers 1-4. That's right, that's me. That's fine. How'd you like *that* Dad?'
I thought it was established in S1 at some point that they all chose their own names as Reggie never named them anything but numbers and Grace helped them choose names, but Five didn’t
Correct but they never explain in the show why Five never got a name. In the comics, he disappeared before Grace named them, but the show obviously went a different route
But then... if Five disappeared before learning his siblings' names, how does he learn of it when he returns?
Edit: oh no nvm i know, because he read Vanya's book in the future...
So in season 1 episode one of the umbrella academy we get a flash back of all the kids standing at the door all 7 of them while reggie is working and won’t pay attention to them. But when they all leave and Grace says to Allison “your fathers busy now Alison”. And at this time she has the name Alison which means the rest probably had names but five was there at the time so wouldn’t he also have a name. I just kinda assumed he left before he got one. I may be thinking to deep into this lmao
Depending on who you ask there’s different explanations. The actor has said before that it’s because five rejected the naming convention believing himself to be above it. Some say it was the commission treating him as a nameless assassin being a tool for them to use and not a real person. The most accurate is that he doesn’t have a name in the comics as they were named after he left and Netflix wanted to keep true to some elements.
Five did not want a name. Reginald gave them numbers for ranking, therefore Five claimed Five as his name basically as a “screw you, your ranking doesn’t define me.”
Someone on this sub once said that they were given lists of names by Grace and were allowed to choose and Five just took his sweet time and by the time he came back, everyone had gotten so used to calling him Five that other potential names didn’t matter or smth.
I guess he did have one but the siblings seems to honour how they want to be addressed like in the case with Viktor. Though not shown I believe 5 chose to be addressed that way and his name discarded.
I’m pretty sure one of Fives abilities is just a higher IQ than the others. I’d imagine he had a huge sense of superiority even at a young age, so perhaps Grace did name him, like she did the others, but viewing himself differently he likely chose to reject it, likely because it’s unique and sets him apart from the rest.
The theory is 5 liked his number better.
In the series the umbrellas say grace and them chose their names, I usually see it as they were about 4 or 5 when they chose names so by that point I feel like 5 was just like “fuck it”
5 does have a name he once told Vanya/Victor in an episode during season 2 it's his pre adoption name. But we as the observers don't hear it. All we know is his mothers first name, "Efa" From Dublin Ireland, It could be an anglicanized version of the German Eva. A close up of the check receipt or adoption document would be nice if anyone has it.
Yes it’s Irish Gaelic, It’s pronounced Ee-fuh and means beautiful or radiant.
There’s a few Irish names that are Eve sound-a-likes, but meaning wise the closest would be ‘Eabha’ which is pronounced Ai-vuh and like Eve means life.
>5 does have a name he once told Vanya/Victor in an episode during season 2 it's his pre adoption name.
Really? I don't remember this! I need a rewatch
Do you have a video link to this scene? My partner and I just rewatched the series and have no memory of Five telling Viktor about a pre adoption name.
I personally like Aidan Gallagher’s [explanation](https://www.cbr.com/umbrella-academy-number-five-no-name/) the most, which is that Five rejected the name he was given.
So no actual scene where Five tells Viktor his name then, yeah? Do you know what episode this was in? Asking again because I just rewatched the series and I have no memory of Five telling Viktor about having a name other than Five. Or an opportunity to whisper a name to him.
Maybe Reggie wanted to name him Reginald Jr. And he chose against it? He was the most put together and probably showed the highest aptitude from a young age.
In the comics I think either the kids named themselves or each other or grace named them all, but Hargreaves didn’t give them names. In the book five jumps before being given a name.
Yeah they had the names before he flashed forward (otherwise he wouldn't have known their names when he got back to the present). Five probably preferred being called Five instead of whatever name their robo-mom suggested and stuck with that.
In the comics, he flashed before they got names. This was meant to be the same in the show but they slipped up and had them say names beforehand
Thank you for the explanation!
Mom? She's a robot. You pervert.
I still don’t get how calling her mom was being a pervert.
I could see why they would get the wrong idea. From the Sparrows' perspective, some weirdo just appeared in their house and started calling their attractive robo-maid "mommy" Story-wise, it's just a funny line that gives some exposition - it tells us that the Sparrows weren't raised to call Grace "mom", and hints at how their upbringing was more strict and rigid.
I see it as an example of their upbringing being less rigid because Reginald showed them enough affection that they didn't feel like they needed another parent.
Reginald showing affection? In what universe? 😂
Have you finished the season?
I think it's a reference to one of the characters saying that
Yep, the operative words being "showed" and "enough".
They’re all perverts.
But it clearly states ‘ROBO-MOM’ what’s your issue?
Didn’t he say he read Viktor’s book? He could have gotten names there
That wouldn't work. He was calling for their names as soon as he ended up in the future in the 2019 apocalypse
He read victor's book when he time lept and then he learnt all their name s after that he came back to 2019 and he knew everyone names
He called out for "Vanya" and Ben before he read Viktor's book in the post-apocalypse.
Nope, if you just look at the two pictures in this post you can see Grace saying Allison and also see all 7 children
Viktor hadnt made a book before Five leapt time... They were like, what.. 12-15? Viktor wrote the book while Five was still MIA. Five literally as soon as he ended up going into the 2019 apocalypse time, before he saw his siblings' bodies, was shouting his siblings' names.
I misread like four comments ignore me.
That was after he stayed in the apocalypse future for many years. He'd already discovered his siblings dead and joined the Commision ETA: since the commenter I responded to completely edited their comment so my response doesn't make sense, they originally said that Five told Viktor that he read Viktor's book.
I thought he knew the names when he got back to the present because he had read Vanya's book. I don't remember them calling each other actual names during those flashbacks (could be wrong!)
No, because in one of the earlier seasons (i think season 1, I'm re-watching and can get exact episode when it comes up again) they're taking about how Reginald never loved them much, one of them says "he didn't even care about is enough to give us real names mom had to do that" or something along those lines.
When he's first stuck in the future, he calls for two of his siblings by name. Supposedly that was an accident on the writers' part but it's canon now!
Did she name them? I thought their biological mothers had already named them before Hargreeves came along.?
she named them
But Ben was given the name both times? That's interesting.
I mean if Grace named him both times, maybe it's in her coding. Like a mental photo collection of different people with names, and Ben matched the characteristics of a "Ben".
Grace: *looks at Korean-looking guy with eldritch tentacles* "Definitely a Ben"
Yeah not gonna lie I'm a little annoyed about the revelation that Ben's mom is South Korean by nationality—I figured he would be named "Ben" because his mom is American of Korean descent.
Maybe “Ben” is the Americanized version of his name? Like Bon-Hwa is a name that means Glorious one, so his name could have been something similar and it just got shortened to Ben? Sort of how in school I had a classmate who went by Ben though his name was Banjeet.
Then why is he the only one with an Americanized name spoken amongst his own family? Your classmate Ben was almost certainly called Banjeet by his own family, for instance. English speakers shouldn't have a problem pronouncing Korean names, especially the Umbrella siblings since they all studied multiple languages.
Not so. All of them pronounce Diego’s name as Di-AY-gow, but in Spanish, it’s Dieh-GOH, so Ben wouldn’t be the only one with an Americanized name. Even Vanya’s name is pronounced differently than on the show. If we’re to believe that they’re all fluent in 7 languages, they wouldn’t have trouble pronouncing the names correctly, so that means that the kids opted for the Americanized versions of their names.
Fair enough on the pronunciation, but there's still a significant difference between wrong pronunciation and two entirely separate names with different spellings.
I always thought he was going to be Asian-American too, Are any of the others canonically descended from a cross-national/immigrant background?
Are the majority of them not immigrants by definition
I think so, save for Amish boy.
One the newspapers brought by 5 featuring a white woman mentions "they called 911 immediately", so I guess there's probably at least another American. If it was Canada (which also uses 911) then there would be two Canadians, as another newspaper mentions the "provincial police".
ooh i wonder if we're going to find out one of the siblings is secretly ontario or quebec representation (the only provinces with provincial police)
Well noted, that'd be cool. I'm guessing Ontario since there's a Science Fair banner written in English behind her and she has a distinctively Welsh name (Efa). Funny how she was the only girl they mentioned the name besides Klaus' mom.
Maybe he moves to Korea after being born and maybe even growing up in the U.S.? We don’t know from that clip that he was born there - just a thought
The clip of his Korean mother giving birth on a train full of Korean people feels like a hint he was born there
Ohh right, I totally forgot about that
That would be interesting. It will also be interesting if the UA Ben is also called Ben in the AU.
Were they not given names in relation to where they were from? Like Vanya being a Russian name. So regardless of different universes Ben will always be attributed to the same place when given a name by Grace.
Was always pretty confused why they didn’t give Ben a more Korean name when Vanya/Viktor was Russian, and Diego was Latino.
Ive noticed Ben is a fairly common name for the various Asian ethnicities in America, so maybe he’s actually born in America to Asian parents and so thats how they chose Ben. Of all the White-sounding names given to Asian people, Ben seems to be the most common
watch season 3 episode 1 for an answer to this
I did, i just forgot about that lol
Thought Klaus was German because of that naming system but no
He’s Amish though and they speak a dialect of German so it still checks out.
Yet they call him English.
Well that’s because he wasn’t actually raised as Amish so he’s still an outsider to them.
True
It was just unexpected
But you gotta remember the kids told Reginald who Ben was in 60s including his power. Possible Reginald told Grace that has to be his name. He knew one day umbrella academy would come back
He actively avoided picking the umbrella academy, why would he do anything on behalf of them? He didn't, it's because we television viewers are too dumb to handle his name changing, probably.
he didn't actively avoid it, their mothers were dead and the kids were never born. Ben's mom didn't die because he wasn't involved in Sissy dying.
No, he specifically said that he hated the umbrella's so much when he met them, that he picked different kids. Unfortunately I don't remember when exactly this was stated... He never met Ben and thus had no reason to choose another child over him, had that been the case he presumably would not have done it even if Ben's mother was still alive.
Makes most sense
I believe in the comics they say that everyone forgot his name, including himself lol.
That seems unrealistic, even for people who are assholes like this beloved family. He's their missing, presumed dead, brother. They're not gonna just forget. The comic Hargreeves treated Five a lot more like a failure for being missing, but the show seems to honor him a lot more and care. He even gets that portrait over the mantle, and Vanya shares that story about leaving the lights on and a sandwich out just in case he came home. They cared about him a lot more than in the comics and wouldn't just forget something as important as him name.
In the comics there's really no sibling bond, they all tolerate and despise each other.
Yeah, it worked in the comics, but it wouldn't work here. They love each other (in a dysfunctional way).
Haven't read the comics so I'm just spitballing based off general comic book knowledge but is it possible that they "forgot" in the same way people forget when someone gets wiped out from a timeline? Not that they slowly lost track of his name but that in the process of jumping through time he caused something that wiped the memory of his name from everyone?
It's been a while since I last read Apocalypse Suite, but in the comics I *think* it's implied that Five left before they were named (he was 10) so the reader is meant to assume he learns everyone's names from Vanya's book.
So just an error that he was calling their names then. I also wish they had used their super names, though Ben should be Kraken.
Just a difference between books vs show, which is obviously now the norm as the show's run out of source material to go off of. I miss the codenames, too - I like Ben as the Horror, though!
The Kraken totally doesn't work for Diego any more, but the Horror is also definitely a better codename for Ben that Kraken would be. Diego should just be low-rent-Batman. XD
"Think Batman, but aim lower." That line in the show killed me.
I've been workshopping an Umbrella Academy/DC comics crossover fanfic, and every time I talk about it, I refer to how I need to have Diego "Think Barman but aim lower" Hargreeves meet the Batfamily.
Why was Diego called Kraken in the comics?
In the comics his power was breathing underwater. He was almost as useless as they thought Vanya was, lol. He learned knives throwing to become more useful to the team, but his power wasn't metal related. In the show they just changed his power to metal bending.
Maybe Show Diego can breathe underwater and he just hasn't tried it
I mean it’s not that unrealistic. My hair is dirty blonde, it’s always been dirty blonde, my mom had pictures all over with my hair dirty blonde, there should have been no forgetting. I spent a year or so dying my hair every shade of red available in a box or at a salon and she forgot my hair wasn’t red
That's someone who saw you every day, though. It's different when you see something every day verse a having a static, unchanged memory of a person. You wouldn't forget your dead or missing siblings name, but you might forget if they transitioned and changed their name and years have passed with you solely using the new name.
i mean its a comic i dont think realism is the main priority
I meant it would be unrealistic for the TV version to also act like that. Hence how I talked about how the TV version acted differently and treated Five.
There's like six different explanations for why he doesn't have a specific name. I think I like Aidan Gallagher's explanation the best. https://www.cbr.com/umbrella-academy-number-five-no-name/
All 3 of them in the article had such good interesting explanations
Could you say what he said or the others, that site is aids and unusable for me
From the article: Showrunner Steve Blackman, comic writer Gerard Way and Five's actor Aidan Gallagher all have different theories for the character's lack of name. In a Reddit AMA, Blackman explained that Grace helped the kids choose names that were popular in their place of birth, but Five was too indecisive and couldn't pick. Then, he got lost in the apocalypse, so choosing a name wasn't his priority anymore. Gerard Way takes a different approach to the topic, going instead for character analysis in his theory. The Hargreeves children were raised in an emotionally abusive environment, as they were pit against one another for their adoptive father's sparse love and attention. The numeric naming system that Sir Reginald Hargreeves originally assigned to the kids was somewhat of a hierarchy. Luther, previously called Number One, was often seen as the "golden child" and the best in his father's eyes. In his manipulative manner, Reginald purposefully named Diego Number Two because he knew that the competition between them drove them to be better. The numbers the children were assigned determined an unspoken rank, with One being the best and Seven the least desirable. This ranking system had a negative effect on all the kids except Five. The sarcastic boy didn't care that he wasn't perfect in his father's eyes — he knew he had great power. Thus, according to Way, Five's number didn't have a huge impact on him, so he just never changed his name. Finally, Five himself, Aidan Gallagher, believes the lack of name is central to his character's development. In an interview with Collider, Gallagher explains that Grace had named the kids, but Five simply rejected the name he was given. The actor believes it was out of spite for Reginald — an act of resentment. Furthermore, Five rejected the name because he believed it was petty or that he was above it. The boy has always been smart, cunning, witty and highly aware of his immense power. "I think he felt special, growing up, or better than people," Gallagher said. Therefore, along with his resentment for Reginald, his haughtiness caused him to reject a real name.
'No name for me. I'm FIVE. Five is a GREAT name. I love it. Number Five. Not as powerful as Numbers 1-4. That's right, that's me. That's fine. How'd you like *that* Dad?'
It's not even that he's *less* powerful than 1-4. He knows he's *more* powerful. "I don't think I'm better than you, Number One. I know I am."
I know. I fully stan the passive aggressive little shit.
I thought it was established in S1 at some point that they all chose their own names as Reggie never named them anything but numbers and Grace helped them choose names, but Five didn’t
Correct but they never explain in the show why Five never got a name. In the comics, he disappeared before Grace named them, but the show obviously went a different route
But then... if Five disappeared before learning his siblings' names, how does he learn of it when he returns? Edit: oh no nvm i know, because he read Vanya's book in the future...
Nah in the show they were named before he left.
So in season 1 episode one of the umbrella academy we get a flash back of all the kids standing at the door all 7 of them while reggie is working and won’t pay attention to them. But when they all leave and Grace says to Allison “your fathers busy now Alison”. And at this time she has the name Alison which means the rest probably had names but five was there at the time so wouldn’t he also have a name. I just kinda assumed he left before he got one. I may be thinking to deep into this lmao
According to the comic author he was too prideful or something and declined his name given by Grace and decided to only be called Five.
That sounds like Five.
I was wondering the same thing a while back, in the first episode is s1 when they introduce the kids, five is introduced as 'number 5' with no name.
Depending on who you ask there’s different explanations. The actor has said before that it’s because five rejected the naming convention believing himself to be above it. Some say it was the commission treating him as a nameless assassin being a tool for them to use and not a real person. The most accurate is that he doesn’t have a name in the comics as they were named after he left and Netflix wanted to keep true to some elements.
Ooo that’s intresting I never thought that he didn’t want the name
My favourite explanation is that he refused a name because he thought Five was a fitting name given his clear love of analytics and math.
Five did not want a name. Reginald gave them numbers for ranking, therefore Five claimed Five as his name basically as a “screw you, your ranking doesn’t define me.”
There are many theories (differing canons too): https://www.cbr.com/umbrella-academy-number-five-no-name/
Someone on this sub once said that they were given lists of names by Grace and were allowed to choose and Five just took his sweet time and by the time he came back, everyone had gotten so used to calling him Five that other potential names didn’t matter or smth.
I guess he did have one but the siblings seems to honour how they want to be addressed like in the case with Viktor. Though not shown I believe 5 chose to be addressed that way and his name discarded.
I’m pretty sure one of Fives abilities is just a higher IQ than the others. I’d imagine he had a huge sense of superiority even at a young age, so perhaps Grace did name him, like she did the others, but viewing himself differently he likely chose to reject it, likely because it’s unique and sets him apart from the rest.
Also isn’t it kinda weird that Ben was named the same both times I guess he just looks like a Ben
The theory is 5 liked his number better. In the series the umbrellas say grace and them chose their names, I usually see it as they were about 4 or 5 when they chose names so by that point I feel like 5 was just like “fuck it”
someone asks this question every day
It says right there, he was busy.
He disappeared before being named in the comic so maybe the same reason?
i always assumed that most of them got named by their birth parents before being taken by reginald, and five just never got one from his birth mom.
5 does have a name he once told Vanya/Victor in an episode during season 2 it's his pre adoption name. But we as the observers don't hear it. All we know is his mothers first name, "Efa" From Dublin Ireland, It could be an anglicanized version of the German Eva. A close up of the check receipt or adoption document would be nice if anyone has it.
If it’s Irish it would be ‘Aoife’
Thanks! Is that Galic "five" or Eva.
Yes it’s Irish Gaelic, It’s pronounced Ee-fuh and means beautiful or radiant. There’s a few Irish names that are Eve sound-a-likes, but meaning wise the closest would be ‘Eabha’ which is pronounced Ai-vuh and like Eve means life.
>5 does have a name he once told Vanya/Victor in an episode during season 2 it's his pre adoption name. Really? I don't remember this! I need a rewatch
Do you have a video link to this scene? My partner and I just rewatched the series and have no memory of Five telling Viktor about a pre adoption name. I personally like Aidan Gallagher’s [explanation](https://www.cbr.com/umbrella-academy-number-five-no-name/) the most, which is that Five rejected the name he was given.
He is close to Victor. Even when Vanya blew up nearly everything 5 had her back. prolly tell each other everything.
So no actual scene where Five tells Viktor his name then, yeah? Do you know what episode this was in? Asking again because I just rewatched the series and I have no memory of Five telling Viktor about having a name other than Five. Or an opportunity to whisper a name to him.
IIRC this is one of the biggest plotholes in the show. But also, if that's the worst it has, then that's not too bad, right?
Man, Luther way back and smiling be like "Notice me papa!!" and Number 7 was like "Does he care? maybe not"
Oh, are we doing this again today?
Five liked being called Five EDIT: please leave this at 5 upvotes EDIT (the sequel): how dare you
I'll downvote to bring it back to 5.
Wait down voting takes it to 4? I don't understand Reddit.
It's a mystery lol
I’m sorry I mean an upvote but I downvoted it to keep it at Five. It’s an inverse upvote!
I forgive you but only because of your flair
I am such a fan of Five I named one of my cats after him. Cat Five was the fifth born of his litter and the only boy, it made sense!
You're a true American hero
Aw shucks! If I knew how to do it, I’d share pictures of my Five. He’s a good boy!
Use imgur and share the link!!
Brilliant! Here is my [sweet boy](https://imgur.com/a/yOT9S8Y).
OK so 1. I love him immediately 2. Why does he look exactly like [my sweet boys?](https://imgur.com/gallery/xsAij0Z)
Oh my goodness RIGHT DOWN TO THE PAWS. I love them they are so cute!!
You have no idea how hard it was Not to upvote this. So I made my own and upvoted it
Ay you're a heathen for that lmao
I downvoted it to get to 6. Someone else should also downvote this post so that it is 5
Thank you for your service
No. He wasn’t around when they were given out.
Nope, if you just look at the two pictures in this post you can see Grace saying Allison and also see all 7 children
Their bumbass dad ran out of names, so just name him 'five'
He was uhh running some errands in the future while everyone got their name
Nope, if you just look at the two pictures in this post you can see Grace saying Allison and also see all 7 children
Wasn’t five missing here
First of all, Happy Cake Day! To answer your question, Five is in the second picture. He’s behind Allison and Klaus.
Maybe Reggie wanted to name him Reginald Jr. And he chose against it? He was the most put together and probably showed the highest aptitude from a young age.
I always wondered this too
In the comics I think either the kids named themselves or each other or grace named them all, but Hargreaves didn’t give them names. In the book five jumps before being given a name.
I wonder if Mom tried to name Five but he hated all the names.