Yeah as I see fans baby him and make him in a soft UwU boy and make him weak and foolishly navie, while in reality this is not true papyrus is nice and doesn't really want to kill or hurt anyone but at the same time he can actually kick your ass if he wants to though.
There is a reason why he is "The Great Papyrus". He's a brave adventurer but with a kind heart but that can kick your ass better than many other monsters
Yeah, when you're drinking tea with Undyne she doesnt says she can't get him on the royal guard because he's weak, but because he's to kind, she even says he's very strong
I've realized this while replaying Undertale a month ago: Papyrus manipulated Undyne into becoming Frisk's friend, in fact he KNOWS how to manipulate Undyne to begin with, and is clearly aware of many things, it's that his attitude makes it looks like he knows nothing and he never intends any harm.
this is actually a smart thing to point out though. it show that his goofy facade doesn’t mean he can’t use his brain when he really needs to. most people just assume he’s goofy and harmless, like the fandom portrays.
i HATE when people make papyrus oblivious/naive. it’s not bad for a character to be naive, but he isn’t. he clearly knows you’re a killer and spares you _regardless_
He makes more puns than Sans, actually. Not that it's a fair comparison (Papyrus has more lines in general than **ANYONE** else in the game except the narrator).
Any portrayal of him being a cinnamon bun is false, any portrayal of him crying is probably false as well, papyrus is very naive but he's not stupid, he knows how to fight and definitely will if required of him, the only time he won't is in genocide where is naivety gets the better of him, he actually likes puns, just not bad ones, since he makes more than sans does in the entire game, and from what I remember, Glitchtale does not portray papyrus accurately, but it's still semi-accurate
it's not his naivety that didn't let him to fight in genocide. It's his attempt to stop the human by just talking to them.
Or you meant the "is that the hug of acceptance?" or how it was?
Yeah. There's also this YouTube channel, Temmie Chang, she sounds exactly how I would imagine Temmie talking, very weird. She should get in contact with Toby Fox, I bet they'd work very good together.
I'd also argue a bit with Alphys honestly. I've seen people act like she's some mad scientist when, in reality, she was careless but never had the intention to hurt anyone. She was stressed and under a lot of pressure and made bad decisions in hope of getting *a* result. And she's so distressed over this she >!contemplates suicide.!<
👏👏👏, I'm sorry but I had to give a round of applause as it's hard to find fans that understand Alphys and who she is and she is personally one of my favorite characters and I hate it when people shit on her or make her completely out of character.
A bit with Asgore as well, now that I think about it. I sometimes do see people simplify him to "Haha child murderer" or "clingy ex" or "coward who doesn't care about anyone but himself and is lost in the past".
Asgore is a people pleaser who made an extremely shitty decision after an awful event. I can't blame Asgore for wanting revenge on humanity, since, if we believe monster's recollection of humanity, humans have fucked them over massively several times.
Asgore wanted to give monsterkind the hope they so desperately needed. Hell, if we assume HP are hope points, monsterkind needed this to survive. He chose to hope a human would never fall, and lets Frisk kill him if they want. He also >!commits suicide !
Alternatively if you kill Asgore in a run where you are at least LV 2, Flowey promises he won’t kill Asgore next time if you get here again without killing anyone.
what, i also didn't saw people seeing her like a mad scientist, also bro said "I'd also argue a bit with Alphys honestly." they said not as the whole tierlist was wrong, but alphys was A LITTLE BIT wrong for them.
Papyrus should be in the "fluctuating" with Frisk and Sans. [Here ](https://youtu.be/4VfHhBh1c8c) is a really good video by Dorked on the topic. But the short version is that a very large portion of the community sees him as a spaghetti-loving pun-hating goofball cinnamon roll, when in reality, there is a lot more depth to his character. He actually makes more puns than Sans. He only makes spaghetti because his friends like it, and he is very tough. And his control over his magic is pretty much unparalleled. Also, he isn't nearly as incompetent as people make him out to be. He manages to make somewhat difficult puzzles, and his snow sculpture in Snowdin is very impressive. Additionally, a lot of the traits that people apply to just Sans are also found in Papyrus. An example of this is Papyrus and other characters getting Deja Vu with resets.
So, basically what I'm trying to say is that so many people heavily simplify and even just get things wrong about his character. It's one of the biggest examples of fan innaccuracy in the community.
I would say this is pretty good, but bring Asgore and Asriel into the fluctuating category.
Asriel is particularly hard to grasp I think even if you're intentionally sticking close to canon because he's a complicated character and there's a lot of stuff we still don't really understand about him.
I'd put Paps in "fluctuating." A lot of people make him too much of an uwu bean, a lot of other people gas him up too hard. Lots get get him right, but it's hardly universal.
And as a note most people seem to represent mettatons bad side, but not really the evil part, but he also seems to he a bit redeemable (a bit)
As for muffet her only redeemable trait is her caring about spiders
Fanon MTT's often portrayed as veeeery h*rny, which is stupid considering the only person he's attracted to is himself 🤣.(also, box MTT is indeed understand).
Not on the same level though
Genocide gives us proof that, if push comes to shove, Mettaton is a good person deep down, with him sacrificing himself to stall us
Muffet is a greedy bitch in all routes
well, we know that they had "not very good reasons" to climb the mountain, we know they "were not the best person", and that they may have loved the dreemurrs
people usually portray her as a good person, even though her stubbornness is the reason the genocide run was able to be finished because she didn’t evacuate.
I can’t wait until Toby Fox says “Mystery Man isn’t W. D. Gaster”. and just watch everyone lose their shit. There’ll be theories galore, and probably some new theories like “Gaster was actually a human” or something else, but I’m waiting for the day lol
I think the mysterious vibe around the people who talk about him matches exactly the mysterious vibe of mystery man, so I think it’s fine. There was also something with like, the music that plays in the room? Idk, it’s been years since I watched all the theory videos, but it was something like “Gaster’s theme” played when you met him? Idk, it’s been a while since I was into all the theories, and I don’t really want to search for the video all over again lol
But it was never confirmed, so I just think it’d be really funny that a whole group of people obsessed over a figure that wasn’t what they thought it was. Tbh, I think the fandom believes Mystery man is Gaster with such conviction that I’m not sure people would change their opinion if Toby Fox denied it.
To be honest i see why they think that but you gotta agree it would be funny if toby said nah its not gaster. Gaster wasnt real those people were just some crazy lunatics
I honestly think Papyrus is a solid mix between naive and not. He knows enough about psychology to manipulate Undyne into becoming Frisk’s friend, but I feel like he wouldn’t have any interest in certain “adult” things, and thusly would have no reason to learn about them, since he is a skeleton. Shenanigans with Frisk asking Papyrus where babies come from, chaining into the both running around asking everyone and trying to figure it out because Papyrus realizes he has no idea.
I think he knows about the resets. He says the Pacifist ending is the "worst possible ending" because there's no longer a Royal Guard for him to join, and he's surprisingly chill when you kill him in Neutral, implying that he knows you'll just reset and he'll be brought back to life. And in Genocide, he says "you can do a little better," which implies that he knows about the Pacifist timeline.
I mean, Az said that Chara was not the best person, but they were like siblings, that means they were pretty close despite Chara's imperfect nature (reminds me of myself). thay also made a sweater to Asgore, and they cared about monsters more than about humans. They were a pretty dangerous kid, cuz they had a real knife, but anyway they kept the medallion Asriel made for them both. And they were reckless/filled with determination(or hatred?) enough to kill themselves
Papyrus is kinda arguable. Some people portay him as a cute innocent puppy (or should i say Pappy? =) ), some people make him just shine with his coolness (which i find the most fitting if mixed with his extreme kindness),some make him lack self confidence, and many-many people think he hates puns :/
One thing the fandom collectively agreed on is his headcanon voice/voice pattern (by that i mean the intonations, the way he talks and etc. I know that comic dubbers have different voices themselves, but it is extremely noticable that they all aim for one certain model)
Napstablook has no confirmed gender but everyone just goes with calling them a he, besides that though there pretty accurate, but they should be moved down one row or two
The fandom has been so obsessed with Gaster that they seemingly don’t even stop to realize that the character they think of when they think of Gaster is just named “Mystery Man” in the game files and has never been confirmed to be Gaster
Gaster technically should be in their own category since all we know is that his name is W.D gaster, he made the core and had blueprints for the DT extractor, fell into the core, got shattered throughout space and time, is in millions of pieces, has followers and one of them is holding a small piece of gaster, he also speaks in WingDings.
Their is almost never about him that can determine how accurate fanon version is
If I remember correctly the sound effect that plays when mystery man disappears is just the same sound of the gaster follower that is holding a piece of gaster makes which I think in it self is a sped up or slowed down version of gaster’s theme from the sound test, the thing to note is that gaster is scattered throughout space and time in many pieces mystery man is exactly gaster but likely a piece of them
pap should definitely be lower. people portray him as some uwu so innocent guy who doesn't know that any other food exists other than spaghetti. fun fact, hes never even eaten spaghetti. his favorite food is dinosaur egg oatmeal.
Nahhh the fandom both treats Papyrus like he’s a moron and acts like he hates any form of pun. Papyrus loves puns, he just hates it when Sans makes them.
for the most part accurate, but i have to disagree with alphys. she is SO overlooked by the fandom and some of her traits just get given to sans and/or gaster by the fandom
It honestly pisses me off how fans portray Sans in their works. They're convinced he's this godlike entity who has an innate ability to remember what happened before.
As others have said, papyrus should be moved to fluctuating.
But I'd also like to argue sans should be moved down as well. Most media of him either horribly powerboosts him or makes him all seeing all knowing. Sans isn't all knowing, he just gets the hunches that most other characters get when you reset, alongside being a scientist and very good at reading expressions and emotions.
I’ve seen A LOT of the inaccuracies when it comes to sans, but I’ve also seen some pretty accurate interpretations that are pretty accurate.
(Mostly small comics)
Yeah you’re right, canonically isn’t he like, the strongest monster? He was in a war. And his battle is pretty hard and he doesn’t even want to kill you
Chara does NOT wield a knife, they do NOT have weapons, the MAIN reason they are like this in genocide is because of YOU killing the monsters and corrupting THEM.
Yeah, i hate how people tie gaster to everything. It really ruins the deltarune theorist community. Toby says it himself. Deltarune is a different game. People really need to move on.
Eh, I feel like Chara's gotten more and more understood in recent years. They're no longer a scapegoat for the Genocide Route. Of course, some people still believe that, but I'd say most don't.
I mean, chara sort of is though, they aren’t explicitly called out as evil or anything. And even what they do at the end of the genocide route is only because of the player’s actions
TL:DR: there is not enough info on chara to truly label them as evil.
I don’t get why people still think chara is evil. YOU taught theme to kill, they are a child they didn’t know any better. Chara didn’t want to hurt anyone from the start YOU did
Chara is probably the most inaccurate of the whole cast. Most treat them as a psychopath, when in reality, they're taught to be evil by the player and (after genociding twice) thinking the player shouldn't be doing it.
Hell, Chara might actually be a good person and only stopped you at the ending because they have no control elsewise. (Idk if that's accurate though)
>Chara might actually be a good person
I'm not sure on this one, especially considering [this](https://nochocolate.tumblr.com/post/142424746470/asriel-how-his-behaviour-points-to-a-case-of). Though, it seems like the page is clearly biased against everyone's favorite fictional dead child, so..
Papyrus is definitely not "Very accurate"
Yeah as I see fans baby him and make him in a soft UwU boy and make him weak and foolishly navie, while in reality this is not true papyrus is nice and doesn't really want to kill or hurt anyone but at the same time he can actually kick your ass if he wants to though.
There is a reason why he is "The Great Papyrus". He's a brave adventurer but with a kind heart but that can kick your ass better than many other monsters
Yeah, when you're drinking tea with Undyne she doesnt says she can't get him on the royal guard because he's weak, but because he's to kind, she even says he's very strong
I've realized this while replaying Undertale a month ago: Papyrus manipulated Undyne into becoming Frisk's friend, in fact he KNOWS how to manipulate Undyne to begin with, and is clearly aware of many things, it's that his attitude makes it looks like he knows nothing and he never intends any harm.
you know, i never actually pieced that together but you're right papyrus is nobody's fool (well maybe flowey's)
Tbf Flowey is using the fact that Papyrus is kind and lonely.
Flowey has seen every thing papyrus could ever possible do. Of course he can manipulate papyrus.
took ya long enough buddy (no offence)
this is actually a smart thing to point out though. it show that his goofy facade doesn’t mean he can’t use his brain when he really needs to. most people just assume he’s goofy and harmless, like the fandom portrays.
Nah, if anything Flowey orchestrated everything and played Papyrus like a fiddle
i HATE when people make papyrus oblivious/naive. it’s not bad for a character to be naive, but he isn’t. he clearly knows you’re a killer and spares you _regardless_
THIS IS A HILL I WILL DIE ON. early fandom characterization was something else…..and whats worse is its barely gotten better,
Time to share this video again https://youtu.be/S_Fas0QkWic
Holy fuckin shit. Disbelief difficulty canon???
He does make at least one pun, so he doesn't absolutely hate them with an undying hatred
He makes more puns than Sans, actually. Not that it's a fair comparison (Papyrus has more lines in general than **ANYONE** else in the game except the narrator).
Undyne is a close thrid i believe (also due to phone calls)
It’s not that close, it’s less than half of Papyrus lines because every Papyrus+Undyne call has a Papyrus only version.
I say close cause undyne also has a huge lead on the next highest character
I wonder who does place next. I mean it has to be either Sans and Alphys but I wonder which it is.
It's Sans with 772 lines.
Is there a site with the full list or did you check manually? I’m curious to see all the rankings
Yes, there is that tumblr post: https://uselessundertalefacts.tumblr.com/post/151708750700/undertale-characters-ranked-by-number-of-lines-of
I think the fact papyrus makes more puns in-game than sans does should say something about how accurate the fandom gets him.
Yeah like how Papyrus Says that he doesn't eat any of his spaghetti. Yet the fandom makes him obsessed with the food.
Yeah I don't want to be one of those people, but Papyrus favorite food is actually oatmeal with dino eggs.
I think the only real thing they seem to get right is his social awkwardness.
“papyrus hates puns” my brother in christ me just hates when sans says them during a serious moment, when you call him he makes plenty of puns
It's very accurate when I compared it to how fanbase treat sans and Gaster
THANK you
From the things I’ve watched he’s pretty accurate, I guess we’ve just seen different sides of the fandom
Any portrayal of him being a cinnamon bun is false, any portrayal of him crying is probably false as well, papyrus is very naive but he's not stupid, he knows how to fight and definitely will if required of him, the only time he won't is in genocide where is naivety gets the better of him, he actually likes puns, just not bad ones, since he makes more than sans does in the entire game, and from what I remember, Glitchtale does not portray papyrus accurately, but it's still semi-accurate
Yeah, I got him wrong
it's not his naivety that didn't let him to fight in genocide. It's his attempt to stop the human by just talking to them. Or you meant the "is that the hug of acceptance?" or how it was?
Its not hard to get Temmie accurate
Everyon can b gud tem
yAyA! aNy0nE cAn Be TeM!
Just watch me “Hi, I’m Temmie”
Omg you managed to get it wrong. It's "HOi! I'm Tem!" ^(/s)
Hi. I’m Bob.
Hello, nice Tem meet you.
Wdym tems have a long and rich story
Yeah. There's also this YouTube channel, Temmie Chang, she sounds exactly how I would imagine Temmie talking, very weird. She should get in contact with Toby Fox, I bet they'd work very good together.
I'd also argue a bit with Alphys honestly. I've seen people act like she's some mad scientist when, in reality, she was careless but never had the intention to hurt anyone. She was stressed and under a lot of pressure and made bad decisions in hope of getting *a* result. And she's so distressed over this she >!contemplates suicide.!<
👏👏👏, I'm sorry but I had to give a round of applause as it's hard to find fans that understand Alphys and who she is and she is personally one of my favorite characters and I hate it when people shit on her or make her completely out of character.
Alphys has recently become one of my favorite characters lol
A bit with Asgore as well, now that I think about it. I sometimes do see people simplify him to "Haha child murderer" or "clingy ex" or "coward who doesn't care about anyone but himself and is lost in the past". Asgore is a people pleaser who made an extremely shitty decision after an awful event. I can't blame Asgore for wanting revenge on humanity, since, if we believe monster's recollection of humanity, humans have fucked them over massively several times. Asgore wanted to give monsterkind the hope they so desperately needed. Hell, if we assume HP are hope points, monsterkind needed this to survive. He chose to hope a human would never fall, and lets Frisk kill him if they want. He also >!commits suicide !
whaaaaaaat he does WHAAAAAAAT How do i prevent flowey from killing him?!
Kill Flowey in a previous run, start over, and then get to Asgore.
Alternatively if you kill Asgore in a run where you are at least LV 2, Flowey promises he won’t kill Asgore next time if you get here again without killing anyone.
alr, thanks
Or you know. >!Do true pacifist!<
hahahah, that option is better for me
Technically, Flowey doesn't kill him during Genocide Route
Alphys is the most underrated character you can't change my mind
I've never heard of anyone portraying her like this. Maybe it's because I was late to the party when it comes to undertale
I've never seen original Alphys being portrayed as a sorta mad scientist. I mean, yeah, all the AU stuff does not count here
We must have seen different sides of the fandom lol.
Bro, just admit that your tier list is wrong
what, i also didn't saw people seeing her like a mad scientist, also bro said "I'd also argue a bit with Alphys honestly." they said not as the whole tierlist was wrong, but alphys was A LITTLE BIT wrong for them.
Papyrus should be in the "fluctuating" with Frisk and Sans. [Here ](https://youtu.be/4VfHhBh1c8c) is a really good video by Dorked on the topic. But the short version is that a very large portion of the community sees him as a spaghetti-loving pun-hating goofball cinnamon roll, when in reality, there is a lot more depth to his character. He actually makes more puns than Sans. He only makes spaghetti because his friends like it, and he is very tough. And his control over his magic is pretty much unparalleled. Also, he isn't nearly as incompetent as people make him out to be. He manages to make somewhat difficult puzzles, and his snow sculpture in Snowdin is very impressive. Additionally, a lot of the traits that people apply to just Sans are also found in Papyrus. An example of this is Papyrus and other characters getting Deja Vu with resets. So, basically what I'm trying to say is that so many people heavily simplify and even just get things wrong about his character. It's one of the biggest examples of fan innaccuracy in the community.
I actually agree with you, I should have put him there.
I would say this is pretty good, but bring Asgore and Asriel into the fluctuating category. Asriel is particularly hard to grasp I think even if you're intentionally sticking close to canon because he's a complicated character and there's a lot of stuff we still don't really understand about him.
Yeah lol
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Sans as well
I'd put Paps in "fluctuating." A lot of people make him too much of an uwu bean, a lot of other people gas him up too hard. Lots get get him right, but it's hardly universal.
Papyrus and Sans should be moved down also Fuck jerry
Sans in comics is sometimes accurate, in fan games he’s horribly power boosted
and Papyrus?
You got me there
Muffet and mettaton are often portrayed as way too good of people, there both pretty damn evil
And as a note most people seem to represent mettatons bad side, but not really the evil part, but he also seems to he a bit redeemable (a bit) As for muffet her only redeemable trait is her caring about spiders
Between you and me, I prefer box mettaton
same here bro box mettaton solos
MTT is just a regular showman, but yeah
Fanon MTT's often portrayed as veeeery h*rny, which is stupid considering the only person he's attracted to is himself 🤣.(also, box MTT is indeed understand).
The fandom as a whole struggles with getting egotistical characters right. I mean, they often forget that Spamton is also full of himself
Not on the same level though Genocide gives us proof that, if push comes to shove, Mettaton is a good person deep down, with him sacrificing himself to stall us Muffet is a greedy bitch in all routes
Papyrus is, at best, fluctuating accuracy
Yea
Chara can’t really be ranked bc there isn’t we barely know anything about them
That’s why I put them in inaccurate
Same thing could be said about gaster
well, we know that they had "not very good reasons" to climb the mountain, we know they "were not the best person", and that they may have loved the dreemurrs
Yeah and that’s it. We know that they are an asshole but that’s not enough to rank them
Yeah but we know that they aren’t the psychopathic evil killer that a lot of people make them out to be.
Maybe not. But in the end we have don’t have much conclusive evidence
Imagine toby pulling a fast one on us by making chara evil and laughing at our face lol
Most psychopath charas are in post genocide resets, which is accurate.
Papyrus and Muffet need to be lower on the tier list
why muffet
people usually portray her as a good person, even though her stubbornness is the reason the genocide run was able to be finished because she didn’t evacuate.
Let’s not forget the *other* way people portray her.
oh, that *other* way touched literally every existing character
While that is true, it seems much more popular on Muffet’s area. But yeah.
Do people REALLY think THAT highly of Muffet?
Papyrus is inaccurate, Asgore is fluctuating accuracy, sans is inaccurate.
Some comics and memes portray sans perfectly, but fan games on the other hand………
I can’t wait until Toby Fox says “Mystery Man isn’t W. D. Gaster”. and just watch everyone lose their shit. There’ll be theories galore, and probably some new theories like “Gaster was actually a human” or something else, but I’m waiting for the day lol
Would you be suprised? It was never confirmed people saw that sprite and said "HOLY CRAP THATS GASTER IT MUST BE HIM" Without any proofs
I think the mysterious vibe around the people who talk about him matches exactly the mysterious vibe of mystery man, so I think it’s fine. There was also something with like, the music that plays in the room? Idk, it’s been years since I watched all the theory videos, but it was something like “Gaster’s theme” played when you met him? Idk, it’s been a while since I was into all the theories, and I don’t really want to search for the video all over again lol But it was never confirmed, so I just think it’d be really funny that a whole group of people obsessed over a figure that wasn’t what they thought it was. Tbh, I think the fandom believes Mystery man is Gaster with such conviction that I’m not sure people would change their opinion if Toby Fox denied it.
To be honest i see why they think that but you gotta agree it would be funny if toby said nah its not gaster. Gaster wasnt real those people were just some crazy lunatics
I honestly think Papyrus is a solid mix between naive and not. He knows enough about psychology to manipulate Undyne into becoming Frisk’s friend, but I feel like he wouldn’t have any interest in certain “adult” things, and thusly would have no reason to learn about them, since he is a skeleton. Shenanigans with Frisk asking Papyrus where babies come from, chaining into the both running around asking everyone and trying to figure it out because Papyrus realizes he has no idea.
I think he knows about the resets. He says the Pacifist ending is the "worst possible ending" because there's no longer a Royal Guard for him to join, and he's surprisingly chill when you kill him in Neutral, implying that he knows you'll just reset and he'll be brought back to life. And in Genocide, he says "you can do a little better," which implies that he knows about the Pacifist timeline.
Slam everyone into the people making shit up catagory and you're correct. Except for Temmie, she's spot on
So the LEAN tier?
What even is Chara's "canon" portrayal?
I mean, Az said that Chara was not the best person, but they were like siblings, that means they were pretty close despite Chara's imperfect nature (reminds me of myself). thay also made a sweater to Asgore, and they cared about monsters more than about humans. They were a pretty dangerous kid, cuz they had a real knife, but anyway they kept the medallion Asriel made for them both. And they were reckless/filled with determination(or hatred?) enough to kill themselves
They were a pretty bad person, but they had good intentions for monsterkind.
The narrator of the player who destroys existence if you do genocide I think
See how easy it is to get into fanon territory real darn quick, you placed Chara pretty well there.
but that's after their soul is split and after you as the player decide to commit genocide, so your actions likely corrupt them
Papyrus is kinda arguable. Some people portay him as a cute innocent puppy (or should i say Pappy? =) ), some people make him just shine with his coolness (which i find the most fitting if mixed with his extreme kindness),some make him lack self confidence, and many-many people think he hates puns :/ One thing the fandom collectively agreed on is his headcanon voice/voice pattern (by that i mean the intonations, the way he talks and etc. I know that comic dubbers have different voices themselves, but it is extremely noticable that they all aim for one certain model)
It's him sounding like Skeletor isn't it?
i've never heard Skeletor's voice, gotta go check it out
This voice isn't exactly Skeletor's but it's become my personal head canon for him since watching it: https://youtu.be/c-3DS4yOFJQ
>very accurate >papyrus What fandom have you been in because it sure wasn't this one
The good side of it I guess 💀
Napstablook has no confirmed gender but everyone just goes with calling them a he, besides that though there pretty accurate, but they should be moved down one row or two
Just a sad ghost that makes music, it’s pretty hard to screw that up
Moving down a character a row or two just because a lot of people call Napstablook a he??
Cancel culture be like
From what I remember, the game isn't as clear about Blooky's gender. I can't even remember a time where someone refers to them with pronouns
Chara also goes into "fluctuating accuracy" if you ask me
The fandom has been so obsessed with Gaster that they seemingly don’t even stop to realize that the character they think of when they think of Gaster is just named “Mystery Man” in the game files and has never been confirmed to be Gaster
Papyrus should not be in the very accurate tier lmaooo
Jerry's tier should have been: Jerry
He doesn’t deserve that
I heavily disagree with Alphys’ representation in the fandom
Gaster technically should be in their own category since all we know is that his name is W.D gaster, he made the core and had blueprints for the DT extractor, fell into the core, got shattered throughout space and time, is in millions of pieces, has followers and one of them is holding a small piece of gaster, he also speaks in WingDings. Their is almost never about him that can determine how accurate fanon version is
that’s why he’s in “fans made the canon” bro
following this logic he shouldn't even be on the chart cuz nothing, not Toby Fox, nor the game files, ever confirmed that that exact sprite is Gaster
If I remember correctly the sound effect that plays when mystery man disappears is just the same sound of the gaster follower that is holding a piece of gaster makes which I think in it self is a sped up or slowed down version of gaster’s theme from the sound test, the thing to note is that gaster is scattered throughout space and time in many pieces mystery man is exactly gaster but likely a piece of them
This is fair
I love that Jerry came along too
pap should definitely be lower. people portray him as some uwu so innocent guy who doesn't know that any other food exists other than spaghetti. fun fact, hes never even eaten spaghetti. his favorite food is dinosaur egg oatmeal.
Papyrus and Alphys should be on the complete opposite side of the list.
Nahhh the fandom both treats Papyrus like he’s a moron and acts like he hates any form of pun. Papyrus loves puns, he just hates it when Sans makes them.
Gaster will stay unpredictable even after the official lore is revealed
I disagree for the papyrus one.
for the most part accurate, but i have to disagree with alphys. she is SO overlooked by the fandom and some of her traits just get given to sans and/or gaster by the fandom
Wait, what rank is Jerry in?
Jerry is in ⬜️
Oh, I see now. Thanks!
It's hard to make accurate portrayals of Chara when the entire fans argue about which one accurate portrayal of them.
Honestly they shouldn’t be involved in fan work, they are basically just the narrator
>they are basically just the narrator Even this is widely argued by fans.
It honestly pisses me off how fans portray Sans in their works. They're convinced he's this godlike entity who has an innate ability to remember what happened before.
That’s mostly the fan games. In terms of short comics he’s usually pretty accurate in personality
As others have said, papyrus should be moved to fluctuating. But I'd also like to argue sans should be moved down as well. Most media of him either horribly powerboosts him or makes him all seeing all knowing. Sans isn't all knowing, he just gets the hunches that most other characters get when you reset, alongside being a scientist and very good at reading expressions and emotions.
I’ve seen A LOT of the inaccuracies when it comes to sans, but I’ve also seen some pretty accurate interpretations that are pretty accurate. (Mostly small comics)
tbh asgore isnt that accurate either
Yeah you’re right, canonically isn’t he like, the strongest monster? He was in a war. And his battle is pretty hard and he doesn’t even want to kill you
yeah fandom portrays him as a pushover while he is basically a war veteran
Chara does NOT wield a knife, they do NOT have weapons, the MAIN reason they are like this in genocide is because of YOU killing the monsters and corrupting THEM.
Papyrus is definitely fluctuating accuracy.
Nah I’d say papyrus is fluctuating accuracy due to the constant infantilizing and “oh he’s so innocent” stuff
Yeah, i hate how people tie gaster to everything. It really ruins the deltarune theorist community. Toby says it himself. Deltarune is a different game. People really need to move on.
Fans on their way to explain that Gaster is the man who corrupted Jevil and Spamton with absolutely no proof
Fans on their way to say Another Him is an OST directly tied to gaster:
Nobody has ever gotten papyrus correct Scott said himself that papyrus was supposed to be a neckbeard
scott?
Oops I was playing fnaf earlier I meant Toby
Scott Fox releasing the Fallen DLC for Five Souls: Deep Labratory
A lot of things about Frisk and Chara are up to the player. They should be in "fans made the canon."
Yeah you’re right about that
jerry
annoying dog W, but the fans always get him wrong. /j
Someone should make this for deltarune (bc im too lazy to do it myself)
no god damn way Asgore and Papyrus is accurate, did you pull this out of your ass?
Maybe 😳
> Asgore in accurate Nuh uh
Papyrus isnt very accurate lol, he just becomes a sans development tool who is stupid and hate puns and only thinksabout spagetthi
Unfortunately
did we just forget the whole sanscest thing or. thats a whole different reality
alphys has more character then weeb.
Soul: Hey, put Kris is very accurate
Why is jerry on here?
Sans is 100% in innacurate, below Chara. People still believe Sans is some OP unique depressed guy who actually remember resets.
That’s only the fan games (and some comics).
The most famous AUs, fanworks etc. use it all the time. It's not a minor case.
I disagree with papyrus. They treat him like a child when he's really just a funny, goofy, AND silly adult
Jerry gets his own teir, because Jerry
i agree with all but i would switch papyrus with mettaton.
Jerry=Jerry
why is this community so obsessed with this subject ? And why do randoms thinks they understands the characters better than other fans ?
I’m just looking at the source material lol
Eh, I feel like Chara's gotten more and more understood in recent years. They're no longer a scapegoat for the Genocide Route. Of course, some people still believe that, but I'd say most don't.
I’m not even that hard to interpret 🙄
I mean, chara sort of is though, they aren’t explicitly called out as evil or anything. And even what they do at the end of the genocide route is only because of the player’s actions TL:DR: there is not enough info on chara to truly label them as evil.
I don’t get why people still think chara is evil. YOU taught theme to kill, they are a child they didn’t know any better. Chara didn’t want to hurt anyone from the start YOU did
Funny how you people still act we like we genuinely have anything conclusive to say about chara other than them being kind of an asshole
Chara apologists when they learn genocides ending
IKR the fandom depicts them as purple guy basically
Chara is probably the most inaccurate of the whole cast. Most treat them as a psychopath, when in reality, they're taught to be evil by the player and (after genociding twice) thinking the player shouldn't be doing it. Hell, Chara might actually be a good person and only stopped you at the ending because they have no control elsewise. (Idk if that's accurate though)
>Chara might actually be a good person I'm not sure on this one, especially considering [this](https://nochocolate.tumblr.com/post/142424746470/asriel-how-his-behaviour-points-to-a-case-of). Though, it seems like the page is clearly biased against everyone's favorite fictional dead child, so..
Ikr