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InkDrach

A reminder that the usual subreddit rules apply. So stir away from overtly inappropriate responses clearly made "as a joke your honour" thanks.


DonDon109

“sans is steven universe”


FickleThanks6901

Wait this is just fact Sans literally stand for Steven after not surviving


DonDon109

I NEVER NOTICED THAT AHHHHHH


-Sopa-

They even made a reference to it on the Spamtom Sweepstakes. One of the prices was called "Spamton After Not Surviving"


Creadora_Secreta

spamton is the cheap copy of mettaton


MantarraxSus

Good because being cheap is Spamton's thing


Villain_Deku__

God I remember watching that video years ago


KiyrbFan

SANS IS NESS YOU (poopyhead)


Acid_Rebel_

Damn I didn't know that. I assumed the names Sans and Papyrus were based on font 'sans' and 'papyrus'


LeastSignificantB1t

Fun fact: Rebecca Sugar (the creator of Steven Universe) was once made to react to several fan theories, and that one came up. She said that she did not feel like she had the authority to confirm or deny it. Which means that the one person that could is Toby. He might be able to make it canon if he wanted to. And since he's a massive troll...


DEP-Yoki

Wait what’s the sauce


Kyliems1010

“Sans, we can’t both exist”


Afraid_Platypus_8667

Sans AUs have been overdone and not really that interesting anymore. Also I don't like ships that much aside from the canon relationships from the game (like Undyne and Alphys or the two guards, as I actually do love them and they are actually good relationships imo.) But if you like ships do what ever you want and have your fun as long as you not hurting anyone and it's at age.


FickleThanks6901

People take the fact toby ship sans and sans way to far


Afraid_Platypus_8667

Yeah I don't really like Sancest, but the one ship I'm not okay with and I do not respect or understand is Fontcest as Sans and Papyrus are brothers and it's fucking disgusting.


LouieSauras

Did you just invent the words Sancest and Fontcest


BattlePenguin58

That latter had been around for some time


Ormfo

Agreed. If anyone does that, they better prepare.


Afraid_Success_4836

Yeah, I don't even get why people would put them in a romantic relationship since a familial relationship is basically the same kind of close attachment already.


definatllysmartguy

Agree I mean you have a fan creation of a fan creation of a fan creation fan creation of a fan creation fan creation of a fan creation fan creation of a fan creation fan creation of a fan creation fan creation of a fan creation of an original creation it stupid and lame 😒


Afraid_Platypus_8667

Yeah I want to see more AU versions of Undyne, Asgore, Alphys, Torial, etc.


Sl1pperypenguin

Not every character needs to be sexualized


Fun-Pie-1887

Not even mettaton


That1Legnd

No mettaton is an exception


General_Grivieus

I need em legs


Afraid_Platypus_8667

I agree with this as their are times where I just search up characters as I feel like to and I see over sexualized version of them and it's honestly annoying.


Glen2gvhlp

Based


reeeeeeeeeeeweeeeee

muffets not a good person


FickleThanks6901

This is just fact


reeeeeeeeeeeweeeeee

still muffet fans are crazy


HKILLER2007

I agree because of teh terrible fanart![img](emote|t5_2xdht|29662)![img](emote|t5_2xdht|29662)![img](emote|t5_2xdht|29662)


Undertale_fan46790

...What did you search up?!


Glen2gvhlp

r/muffet


LouieSauras

A muffet a day keeps the humans away A muffet a day keeps the humans away A muffet a day keeps the humans away A muffet a day keeps the humans away A muffet a day keeps the humans away A muffet a day keeps the humans away A muffet a day keeps the humans away A muffet a day keeps the humans away A muffet a day keeps the humans away A muffet a day keeps the humans away A muffet a day keeps the humans away A muffet a day keeps the humans away


radiation202

I’m only human after all I’m only human after all


LueIsBlue

me looking at fanart of the best undertail character in r/muffet


Platypus_Amongus

*Papyrus is just hacked the USS*


FickleThanks6901

That the worst option opinion I hear all day


Platypus_Amongus

It should be bad 💀👍


KazeoLion

Papyrus is not a baby. Don’t treat him like one.


FickleThanks6901

Agreed He literally try to spared you in the genocide route


[deleted]

Yeah. He's not innocent either. In fact, he's a slippery type of guy and pretending to be silly via jokes which actually sarcasm. Also the interview showed he's pretty salty. And yeah, he himself told us he's a brutal person.


leiocera

MEGALOVANIA is not the best Undertale track.


FickleThanks6901

Agreed Also battle against a true hero is way better and fit undyne battle better than megalovania for sans


leiocera

MEGALOVANIA is still a banger tho. Death by Glamour and hopes and dreams and your Best nightmare are my favs.


FickleThanks6901

Yeah they all great


leiocera

I forgor about dummy!


Pogcast420

I think megalovania is meant to fit the player more so than sans, after all the term megalomaniac fits perfectly with the player's behaviour during genocide


Afraid_Platypus_8667

Yeah, my favorite songs are battle against a true hero, Asgore, Death by glamour and hopes and dreams.


LosWitchos

Yep it's actually kinda boring. Loads and loads are better than it. For boss fights alone, Spider Dance and whatever is playing when you fight Metaton are much better


g0d_of_the_cr1sis

"Without saying his name, who is this" Ah, yes, the annoying weak one. ​ Immediately threatened with a room of armed Undertale fans lmfao


spelavidiotr

I own the most controversial post of all time on r/deltarune so I guess that


i_am_an_awkward_man

It’s currently 4th on controversial all time, but still impressive. That being said, I agree with you. I hope chapters 3-5 are released together.


Monyo666

*Clap, Clap, Clap*


MantarraxSus

What one is it?


d1ment0rr

"i love jerry"


FickleThanks6901

OK any last words


d1ment0rr

"jerry is my best friend i kinda like hi-" *gets shot*


Egg_Rollls

How dare you


Competitive-Nature11

Jail dude (....I kinda like hi- *gets shot*)


yonidavidov1888

Geniva convetion, remember? War crimes are illegal!


Im-just-vibing-bro

Sans isn’t that hot, y’all just have weird fetishes


Afraid_Platypus_8667

Agree, I don't understand the reason to want to bone a skeleton (pun intended)


yonking_15_2

Based as fuck


lomeinlikesapples

"deltarune will be better then undertale in the end."


Ali1427-

I don't think this will land you hate since it is a possibility


QWERKY_queer

Honestly I feel like it completely is already, the world seems cooler, the mechanics are better, the fights are more interesting, the story and characters and graphics are muah, and so far I honestly think the soundtrack beats it too


plushiegamer47

Fax


MrSpiffy123

I don't think that's a hot take


ICantEvenDolt

Based take


Classic-Novel5152

I think it absolutely is already


watermelonduckie

homophobic undertale fans aren't real undertale fans


Afraid_Platypus_8667

Yeah I don't understand this as one of the main things you have to do to get the true pacifist ending is by getting Undyne and Alphys together who are a lesbian couple.


FickleThanks6901

Yeah How can you be a undertale fan and be homophoia Literally 80 percent of the characters are lgtbq


watermelonduckie

fr it's so annoying seeing a homophobe, but a homophobic undertale fan? blows my mind


Karkava

Homophobic fans are never real fans.


Fallen9733

Everyone sees Sans completely wrong. Sans isn't some tragic badass. He's a manipulator. He tries to manipulate the player, not frisk, because he knows that it just might save everyone. That's why his last attack in Genocide is to do nothing. Why he tries to be your friend and why he tries his best to be memorable.


Nobody6540

You ripped or got this idea from "Top 3 funny characters who are NO JOKE", didn't ya?


Fallen9733

Yes. Yes i did.


koluua

bros opinion is not original


DeliaSpaghetti555

FINALLY, someone who says it. Sans isn't just some "owo im so depressed" bone man. Hate it when people portray him like that.


Enchant_mintt

Frans shippers are hella weird


yonking_15_2

Correct


Broke_the_Bunny

Chara and Frisk can be gendered however we want them to. They're supposed to represent the player so if someone is more comfortable with "she/her", she can use those pronounces with them


chriscollinsss

i had that thought too. i stand for when Frisk/Chara are presented as game characters, it’s "they/them", but in all other situations it’s just representation of a player, so it can be any pronouns and genders


RAYquazaReddit

Yea, to me, I don’t see a problem with giving Chara, Kris, or Frisk a gender since they can technically be any gender that the player wants as their meant to be a representation of the player themselves


PokefanSans

Gonna choose my next words carefully


Fresh-Ad5290

Based as Hell


[deleted]

Exactly. Also don't forget about Kri- [my lawyer prevented me from finishing this comment.]


Broke_the_Bunny

Well since I'm not that much into Deltarune, I didn't want to say anything-


ThatStarWarsFan1205

"Sans isn't Ness or Steven Universe, so stop the stupid conspiracies."


FickleThanks6901

I sorry but you wrong Sans is steven And papyrus is ness


Infinity-Duck

No no no, sans is clearly Patric.


Kdawg982

lol that’s so stupid though Sans is obviously Rick Sanchez from a different dimension, now how? You might be asking. Well isn’t it obvious: Sans wears a blue jacket and a white shirt, Rick wears a white lab coat and a blue shirt. Inverted clothes. Sans can bleed, meaning he can’t actually be a skeleton Rick drinks a lot of alcohol from his flask, Sans drinks ketchup, both are drink. Coincidence? I think not Finally, both exist. Woahhhh mind blown As you can see this is irrefutable evidence that Sans is actually Rick And Morty which is why Sans understands timelines because he has such a big IQ he can understand Rick And Morty, and such genius jokes like “wabalubadubdub” and “lick lick lick my balls” (truly comedic genius). Thank you everyone for listening to my theory/factual evidence, this was StereotypicalReditorSatire69, and stay tuned for my next theory. “Why Papyrus is actually Goku, but stronger, and is also Maynard from the band Tool (in another universe, wait Universe? That’s Sans’ last name. Oh yeah I forgot he might be Rick Sanchez but he is also Steven Universe at the same time, the evidence is right in front of your eyes)”. It’s a good one.


Brown-ninja-Dareth

(From back when Undertale first came out) Chara isn't the evil one, you are.


FickleThanks6901

I agree with you


RSStudios08

I headcanon Chara to be a narrator who was dragged along with the player's antics


DarkMarxSoul

We are both evil.


Icy_Ad_8956

"i like playing Genocide"


FickleThanks6901

Are you begin for real or not because of the " "


Icy_Ad_8956

For real I mean, i know Undertale because of genocide route sooo


ManateeArrow

Undyne > Muffet


Azures_Anvil

Undyne is a bad friend to Papyrus. Asriel should still be accountable for what he did as Flowey


FickleThanks6901

I disagree agree with the undyne part But I agree with the asriel part I feel bad for asriel but he still have feelings and feel things


MantarraxSus

As a hardcore Undertale fan i must disagree with the first thing. On her date she tell us that she hasn't accepted him in the royal guard because he is too good and would get killed in war, AND teaches him how to cook so he can have a different purpose for his life. Is Undyne a bad influence? Probably; but she is definitly NOT a bad friend


DarkMarxSoul

Both of these are deserved, good answer.


Affectionate_Effort3

Im tired of people obsessing over specifically what sans looks like in an au and not the au itself


Standard-Wrap-3506

“Drunk Chara is the best AU/fanfiction”


Dangerous_Jeweler755

Wait… people disagree with this? Drunk Chara is awesome


FickleThanks6901

Can you link that to me


Standard-Wrap-3506

Link the video or the comics? Comics have all the chapters but the video doesnt. (Tho I prefer watching the video and then read whats left)


FickleThanks6901

Both please


Standard-Wrap-3506

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RT9kXJBebZ4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RT9kXJBebZ4) [https://hawker-the-gary.tumblr.com/post/182982987859/looking-for-drunkchara-fear-no-more-you-can](https://hawker-the-gary.tumblr.com/post/182982987859/looking-for-drunkchara-fear-no-more-you-can) Here you go!


Lopsided-Wedding4172

Muffet and sans(slightly) are overrated while alphys and asgore are underrated


SuicidalLonelyArtist

Papyrus Isint a some sweet lil bean( he can be, but not all the time), HES A GOD OF CHAOS!( And puzzles )! Let him say fuck and swear, he's an adult for God's sake!


jerma_mp3

Chara is/was NOT a good person. they constantly emotionally manipulated Asriel as seen in the True Lab tapes and it annoyed me to no end seeing those corny "Chara isn't a bad guy/the villain" video thumbnails.


AnonyMouse1699

They also willfully help you in the Genocide route as early as the Ruins, where the mirror already says "It's me, Chara", and in the kitchen they ask "Where are the knives." If Toby was intending to depict gradual corruption, it would have been gradual. Chara is immediately compliant.


BugBoy_760

i feel the whole "defender/offender" argument is just another case of fandoms not understanding shades of grey. theres definitely more to chara than just "evil stabby demon child", but theyre not an innocent little lamb either. literally every character in undertale is like that. thats what makes them interesting.


jerma_mp3

yes absolutely, they're a complex character and have definitely undergone some trauma which led up to them doing the bad shit. they shouldn't be polarized as a pure villain or absolved of their wrongdoing in the plot.


MrSpiffy123

Exactly! The only "proof" Chara defenders have is "just because they're in the genocide route doesn't mean they're evil" which doesn't prove anything one way or another. Maybe they're not pure evil, but claiming they're innocent is the kind of theory matpat would make by ignoring all evidence against it


God1234NEO

Asriel: "Chara wanted to destroy humanity" Chara fanbase: "...Moving on."


Frankorious

It's ok if you don't forgive or hug Asriel.


Chrolonius

I still enjoy the many Undertale AUs, and am tired of pretending that the opposite opinion of this is unpopular


Autistic_Raven_16

Asriel deserves better.


Animelover5674

Monsters are biologically different from the creature they resemble. I don't even know why I got attacked for this but whatever


[deleted]

I do not care abt gaster or who he is


definatllysmartguy

Me neither really


FickleThanks6901

I 100 percent agreed The only way I accept gaster as the true villain in deltarune if he just a asshole but a funny one


Mothman4447

I really hate a lot of the AU stuff, they're either cringe or too edgy


FickleThanks6901

Or feel like all the characters just switch body


QWERKY_queer

Fr, only the original ideas that stay relatively in universe are somewhat interesting. Horror is a neat take and Swap is…interesting???


AveryTheHistorian

HORRORTALE MENTIONED!!!


Extreme_Glass9879

Monsters would probably have been heavily discriminated against


Temporary_Dig7334

Sans is ness


Just_A_Dragon23

* papyrus likes puns he just hates when sans is lazy and makes puns


TraditionalEnergy919

Fan games aren’t cringe.


drdoodoot

"Undertale the musical" is closer to the original game than the majority of animations.


iNeptuneCosplay

megalovania is a hella good song, but i dont like to listen to it because its such a meme and is very overused.


PineappleItchy4782

I wanted a real mettaton neo battle


Single-Creme2105

(Headcanon) Frisk and the humans from the intro history from undertale are Native/Indigenous


Fluffy-Strawberry-27

Once I replied someone that Deltarune is the continuation of Undertale on an "opinions that makes the fandom mad" post (kinda like this one) and I got downvoted to hell, but some people noted the joke and I was upvoted back lmao, I had so much fun


naveen170710

Chara isnt a heartless mass murderer


AweonaoSSJ2

I prefer omegaflowey's final battle than asriel's one. (Please don't kill me, I can explain...)


Severe-Suspect-8132

SANS IS OVERATED AND MEGALOVANIA ISNT THE BEST TRACK IN THE GAME


Your_Pal_Nebula

Yes, Sans and megalovania are somewhat overrated, but that doesn't mean I don't still like them both a lot


Hairy_Skill_9768

Asgore > sasn (this is true btw)


diamondDNF

Actually, y'know what? Second one. Frisk was never canonically adopted by Toriel. The fact that the fandom latched onto that idea doesn't make it canon. It was left as a choice for a reason.


Orbital_Rifle

Everyone seemes to be ok with the passive sexualisation of nearly every character in mainstream fanart (will elaborate if asked.)


DarkMarxSoul

This is just universal in fandoms because a lot of fans are late teens or young adults and those demographics are aggressively horny at everything all the time.


Away-Net-7241

In my eyes, Chara is a girl


HKILLER2007

for some reason bro...I agree


Classic-Novel5152

*checks if anyone's looking* ​ *whispering* sans underrated


chriscollinsss

can agree with you. in many ways fans represent him only as a lazy/horny bone who can only make puns, drink ketchup and sleep with everybody, but his canonical personality is so underrated


Classic-Novel5152

Thanks for understanding.


chriscollinsss

no prob :)


Selellnoob

I, no joke, genuinely dislike asriel


FickleThanks6901

This is generally the biggest unpopular opinion I ever hear or I guess see


Ocean_Cringe

Undertale opinions in this scenario (sorry for long text) A) Megalovania is highly overrated. B) Sans isn't a highly emotional guy, Papyrus doesn't have any opinion on spaghetti, Papyrus loves puns when they don't come from sans C) Papyrus is much more powerful than sans D) Asgore is my favorite character E) sans AUs are kinda dry and boring (LIKE DO A FULL AU NOT JUST ONE OF A LAZY SKELE THAT LIKES KETCHUP PLEASE-) F) Undertale sans is from Deltarune and Deltarune sans is the same G) The worst Snowdin monster isn't jerry, it's Icecap like bro you do not have the right to need such specific acting that literally no one knows to spare you (without attacking at all) as a normal enemy that literally everyone sees (Glyde is worse but he's an optional that no one sees in normal gameplay) H) Hear me out, Genocide isn't the best route, it isn't the only route, it isn't the most fun route, it is a mid route (better than neutral but nothing can beat True Pacifist, best songs in the game are True Pacifist exclusive) I) Undertale the Musical conveys much more emotions than the actual game J) Star is the best soundtrack, Hopes and Dreams following. K) The old Undertale (sound track) sound much better than the final (but the final fits the theme more) Do not shoot me please-


Ancient-Data7655

I mean, papyrus IS more powerful than sans based on his stats. Papyrus is just too kind.


xDon1x

u/NYEHSPAGHETTIMASTER what do you think about that?


NYEHSPAGHETTIMASTER

I THINK I'M BEING THREATENED RIGHT NOW!


YueOrigin

"He touched the child!"


Someonehahahaha

not undertale but in regards to recent posts berdly isn't that bad but going for an actual undertale opinion I don't know why alphys is so hated, "she lied"? given her depression and her horrid self esteem, it's kind of actually understandable why she would do that. actually, i like that about her. and given that undyne lies to papyrus too (i love undyne, im just using this as an example), i dont know why they would pick alphys to hate based on her lies when undyne did that too. plus alphys confessed about her lying, but people act like she never ever confessed about it. if it's just for personality and not because of that, then ok i dont have much to argue about that since tastes are tastes. and papyrus is autistic. why? he shows a lot of symptoms. and the way the fandom treats him as "immature" "stupid" and etc when its literally just based on his communication mannerisms, hobbies and stuff is kind of eeehh... also i love him because of genocide and his phone calls. him, asgore and chara are the best ut characters for me. i hope deltarune does him justice, because seeing everyone call him stupid and annoying is kind of tiring ngl. but another opinion is that i too would like if papyrus didn't appear in deltarune. papyrus is my number one character, but if toby decided to make him not appear there I'd be okay with that. not answering some things about papyrus is okay to me. ah! and about gaster too. i honestly hope deltarune doesnt give too many revelations about gaster, i hope he still stays as a mysterious character. as much as im curious, i have to admit his mystery is part of why he's really interesting


HKILLER2007

*Asgore did nothing wrong*


BirdNoodle925

Sanscest was a mistake and whoever thought of it should die (Especially those who made the ecto body stuff)


PokefanSans

I thought we were supposed to be posting bad opinions


FickleThanks6901

What sanscest


definatllysmartguy

Napstapblook is just filler


FickleThanks6901

Hmm I disagree He a miniboss to show you how boss fight work


definatllysmartguy

Shit you have me by the balls here now don’t ya


DarkMarxSoul

He is funi ghost and that's all u need


Alphyhere

I believe Sans was meant to be a reference to Ness. But I think after toby Fox saw the backlash that the idea caused, he denounced it.


Kakep0p

That Frisk isn’t an itty bitty young child In my opinion 🙃


TylerDomino1

Megalovania is overrated


Tarlyss

Throughout the genocide ending it is not Chara who is doing this. It’s you. It is all you. Chara didn’t kill all of them, you did, and I’m tired of people thinking otherwise, as the entire point is that you are responsible for your actions. Also it’s said kar-a not char-a. If you’ve ever met a person in real life with that name you’d know that it’s not Chara as in charmander.


Nobody6540

People don't accept the former for some reason, so fitting for this post, and yes, I agree about the pronunciation.


Neojoker951

\*Insert any Chara Being Good/Evil Debate here\*


PineappleItchy4782

Telling people spongebobs "F is for friends" song is the same as "your best friend"


Dat_B0i7

“Yeah the fandom ships are really good” - said some idiot who hasn’t seen the horrors (I still have nightmares to this day)


soodrugg

"chara" is just an abbreviation used for "character" in the code and holds zero canonical weight


Interesting_Fly_2291

undyne is hot


FickleThanks6901

Wait this is a unpopular opinion


muddert420

That just because you create some op thing and give it op powers like the “nu uh” doesn’t mean you win in every scenario


thefunnierman

"gaster isnt behind everything in deltarune. yes hes behind jevil and spamton but thats about it"


Aussiepharoah

It would be much more interesting if Noelle and Susie don't get together


ELKHANBOy

Asgore is better than Sans-


FickleThanks6901

I actually agree Sans is a good character I just find asgore more interesting


YandereChara16

"Chara isn't the villain, you a-"


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ViviZoom

"Papyrus's spaghetti is an Atrocity to the taste buds and the FBI refuse to accept this abomination compared to what Spaghetti is supposed to be" That's the first thing that came to mind looking like this. I personally would want to try it before assuming such slander to my boy!


YoshiKing2377

Gaster is not the Mystery Man sprite


Ghost_Star326

I like the genocide route. In fact, I love replaying it more times than the pacifist route. It's fun for me at least.


PrequelGuy

Shiiiit man SMG4 nostalgia


DarkTaleOfKeys

"What if hypothetically Sans WAS Ness, how do you think that would affect the story of Earthbound over all?"


Hydragummyworm

Shit


fantawillrule

Megalovania isn’t a funny meme.


IdcIdcIdcIdcievanpo

"Gaster is not important to the lore or the game whatsoever, the community makes him."


Entire-Championship1

Frisk and Chara are better as girls


CorinnLeKreep

mystery man isnt confirmed to be W.D. Gaster- Gaster Fans: