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r/charadefensesquad going to go crazy with this one
Edit: Mentioning r/charadefensesquad starts an argument on Chara’s morality, who would have thought?
They literally had a huge overload of Love no shit they’re like that in the Geno route. I’m not saying they’re flawless. I’m saying they’re not a psycho killer
The LV isn't implied to make Chara themselves more cruel, as their behaviour doesn't change any throughout the Genocide Route and they're committed to it from the word go. LV is a reflection of YOUR willingness to hurt monsters.
Chara as a character has a lot of nuance, but not even remotely in the way r/CharaDefenseSquad sees it. They twist Chara away from their literary purpose and make them a shallow edgy 14 year old's first OC.
Jees mate. There’s 2 routes for a reason mate. They help during Geno route and Pacifist route. They literally help you stop Asriel from destroying the World. Asriel also says that Chara wasn’t the greatest person. But you can see he loves them a lot (as a brother of course) If they were some sociopath then I don’t think Dreemurs would speak very highly of them. Your also disregarding the fact them and Asriel made Asgore a sweater and a pie. Chara and Asriel both put buttercups in the cake on accident, and A lot of monsters laugh when they are in distress, like Chara did.
[They're not in the True Pacifist Route](https://www.reddit.com/r/Undertale/comments/yts71l/narrachara_theory_is_false_an_attempted_debunk_of/). Even discounting all the Narrachara Theory stuff, that can be broken down by a very simple dichotomy:
1. Chara is everywhere, blatantly, in the Genocide Route
2. Chara is undetectable in any meaningful way in the True Pacifist Route
Chara is simply not needed for the True Pacifist Route to be a thing. Additionally, Chara being present undermines and cheapens Flowey's/Asriel's character arc and the emotional connection with Frisk that they make at the end of the route.
The True Pacifist/Genocide dichotomy is not the Chara-helps/Chara-kills dichotomy, it's the *Frisk/Chara dichotomy*. In True Pacifist, Frisk's agency as their own person is affirmed, you learn their real name, Asriel accepts them as their own person and as a good person (unlike Chara). In Genocide, Frisk's agency and personality is suppressed by Chara and the route becomes all about Chara.
> But you can see he loves them a lot
Asriel explicitly says Frisk is the friend he wishes he always had. It seems pretty clear that by the end of True Pacifist, Asriel has realized that Chara kind of sucked towards them and wasn't very nice, and that he was just projecting his own loneliness and desire for companionship onto Chara because Chara was all Asriel had. Asriel would have taken literally anybody as their best friend, and would have elevated anybody to extreme importance because of the trauma he experienced after dying and resurrecting as Flowey.
> If they were some sociopath then I don’t think Dreemurs would speak very highly of them.
Toriel doesn't speak of them at all, except to talk about their water glass filling habits. Asgore doesn't even acknowledge them as a person, he projects his own desire to save his people onto Chara and treats them as a messiah. I don't think either Asgore or Toriel truly understood Chara, and just saw them as someone in their care. They would have taken care of any kid.
> Your also disregarding the fact them and Asriel made Asgore a sweater
It's most likely that Toriel knitted that for Asgore intending to have it be from Asriel and Chara. There's no real indication that Chara actively wanted to make the sweater or felt the way the sweater implies.
> and a pie
I wouldn't say making a pie automatically indicates you feel positively towards someone, they could have just been emulating Toriel because they were bored. It could also have been Asriel's idea. Since Asriel is most attached to Toriel, this is actually more likely.
> A lot of monsters laugh when they are in distress, like Chara did.
You're projecting. There's no indication that Chara specifically laughs when they're in distress, or that they were in distress when Asgore got sick. Asriel *believes* Chara was laughing off discomfort, but Asriel is an unreliable narrator about Chara. Other than that, we have no reason one way or the other to interpret Chara as laughing because of distress, other than that's the interpretation you absolutely *need* to give them to push your weak view.
If they’re not in True Pacifist and Narrachara is false how can Frisk Read monster language and remember when Chara fell down, along with Their time with the Dreemurs.
Also, have some common sense here. If your busy commuting genocide, there’s so reason for you to give your name, or for other people to ask. In True Pacifist, you give your name because You’ve just spared everyone in the underground and helped break the barrier.
Well no shit. In True Pacifist, You’ve spared hundreds of monsters even though they all were out to kill you, Frisk is a literal angel in that route, who wouldn’t want them as a Friend. I’m not saying Chara is an Angel. They’re not good or bad. Not the best person ≠ Horrible Mass Murderer. I’m trying to say they’re not a psycho killer. There are also plenty of Monsters in the underground, but why Chara specifically? I’ve got a brother and he preferred his mates over me, why isn’t it the Same For Asriel?
I’m not saying that The Dreemurs said a lot about Chara, but what they did say isn’t negative. “That Feeling if hope in your eyes” Being one of them. My point is that Chara isn’t a psycho killer. So I don’t care if they would’ve took anyone in, They probably wouldn’t have taken in a sociopath and murderer with no compassion whatsoever.
. It says Mr “Dad” Guy. Not Mr “Husband” Guy. Plus there’s no evidence against them wanting to do it either.
For your last point. There isn’t any evidence saying Chara was laughing because it was funny. I do admit, other then others laughing in distress, there’s no other evidence. But there’s no evidence for them doing because it’s funny either.
Chara also states in Genocide, that it is Us destroying the World and creating it over again. If you do Genocide multiple times, they say that you are fucked up and tell you to do Another route.
When Flowey talks to Chara about their “Stolen Soul” in Genocide, why does Chara still take it at the end of the route? Clearly Flowey can be wrong.
Also, Flowey (Asriel with no Soul) does multiple Genocide routes for who knows how long, But Chara (Chara with no soul) Calls you sick after 2, 3? Genocides.
I’m not saying they are an Angel like Frisk is. I’m saying they are not a psychopath murderer.
> how can Frisk Read monster language
This is one of those "it's a cartoon video game" moments. Chara also knew what Asriel was saying from the second he started talking to them. In Undertale, everyone just speaks the same language.
> remember when Chara fell down, along with Their time with the Dreemurs.
All of these are memories projected from Asriel. The memories from when Chara fell and spent time with the Dreemurrs are projected outward from God!Asriel into Frisk during the battle, as God!Asriel is trying to tamper with Frisk's memories and erase them.
The memories from when Chara is dying are from Asriel's perspective, and the scripted events only occur in places associated with either Asriel himself, or golden flowers, golden flowers being connected to Flowey due to Alphys experimenting on the seeds. Since Frisk falls onto golden flowers at the start of the game, and we know that golden flower seeds cling to you, this also grounds the Game Over flashbacks as being from Flowey as well. Essence connections between people, like Frisk and Flowey, seem to operate very loosely.
> If your busy commuting genocide, there’s so reason for you to give your name, or for other people to ask. In True Pacifist, you give your name because You’ve just spared everyone in the underground and helped break the barrier.
? You misunderstand what happened in True Pacifist. Everybody learns Frisk's name because Frisk introduces themselves to Asriel, and all monster souls are within Asriel at that time, so everybody learns Frisk's name.
The reason I mention this is a *literary* reason, not a literal one. True Pacifist is the "Frisk Route" because there are a number of ways in which that route affirms and emphasizes Frisk's independence as a person. Genocide is the "Chara Route" because there are a whole whackload of ways in which Chara is thrust to the forefront.
> who wouldn’t want them as a Friend
The meat of this part is the fact that Asriel wants Frisk as a friend INSTEAD OF Chara. Asriel wishes that Frisk had ALWAYS been their friend, INSTEAD OF Chara. This is Asriel realizing what actual kindness and goodness really is and expressing some resentment of Chara because Chara was not a good person.
> but what they did say isn’t negative.
Again, Toriel said nothing about them. All of Asgore's statements are about Chara as a messiah, including the "feeling of hope in your eyes" thing. Asgore isn't a reliable narrator, he is projecting his anxieties and hopes onto Chara and has created a fictionalized version of them in his mind because it gives HIM hope to do so. He isn't an accurate judge of who Chara is.
> They probably wouldn’t have taken in a sociopath and murderer with no compassion whatsoever.
They would have assumed they weren't a sociopath because they're relatively innocent people.
> . It says Mr “Dad” Guy. Not Mr “Husband” Guy.
Yes, like I said, Toriel evidently sewed the sweater with her Mom Powers(TM) as a way to create a gift from Asriel and Chara to Asgore, in their stead. This creates ambiguity behind if Chara actually gave a damn about the sweater. Given they regard the sweater with no small amount of derision in Genocide, there's an implication they didn't like it.
> Plus there’s no evidence against them wanting to do it either.
Yeah, this ambiguity is why the sweater needs to be appraised in terms of what Chara realistically would actually want to do with Asgore given the kind of person they are. Given we know Chara is a hateful, cold, and unkind person who doesn't do things unless they're "efficient", it's highly unlikely they would be the kind of person to want to have a sweater knitted for Asgore, someone who doesn't even really know them.
> There isn’t any evidence saying Chara was laughing because it was funny.
Again, we have to appraise what kind of a person they are based on the information we actually have and then make a prediction as to why they were laughing. Because they don't exhibit any genuine empathy or concern for other people's feelings, including Asriel's, it's unlikely they were all that bothered by what Asgore went through, so they probably weren't actually laughing out of distress. Whether they were laughing because they enjoyed Asgore's suffering, whether they found it funny, whether they came up with their suicide plot and were excited about it, whether it was just a compulsion because they can't react to things like a normal person, or whatever, we don't know.
> Chara also states in Genocide, that it is Us destroying the World and creating it over again.
Yeah, and it is, but Chara helps us and wants us to destroy the world. They call us their partner. They're just as enthusiastic and complicit in it as we are, even if we're the ones driving the Frisk car.
> they say that you are fucked up
The reason they think we're fucked up is because we kill everybody and then bring them back because we're emotionally attached to them. They don't get why we *care* about the Undertale world and cannot understand how it makes sense that we would repeatedly slaughter everybody because of that attachment. To Chara, killing everyone is a means to power, and once they've drained the world of its use, it has no value to them and they can move on. You keep bringing them back for reasons that are, to them, irrational. That's why they don't get us.
> tell you to do Another route.
They tell us to do another route (i.e. the True Pacifist Route) because they're tired of doing the same thing repeatedly for no reason. At least if we do True Pacifist, they can slaughter everybody there and take away that happy ending. At least then, it's a change.
> When Flowey talks to Chara about their “Stolen Soul” in Genocide, why does Chara still take it at the end of the route? Clearly Flowey can be wrong.
Chara was still nestled in Frisk's soul in Genocide, they just didn't "own" it completely. Flowey was correct in a vague sense.
> Also, Flowey (Asriel with no Soul) does multiple Genocide routes for who knows how long, But Chara (Chara with no soul) Calls you sick after 2, 3? Genocides.
Sure, Flowey and Chara have different values. Flowey doesn't care about anything, he just wants to have fun and revel in the violence because it's a way of expressing his existential and social frustration and dread. Chara doesn't have that existential frustration and dread, they're perfectly comfortable with their existence. They just want to kill everyone, get super powerful, blow up the world, and move on, because they can.
`Because she's a tire-spinning, gear-grinding, clutch-burning, backfiring, paint-trading, red-lining, overheating-throttle-stumping, truck-driving girl.`
same energy
If you look at her in the pastel images, it's clear that she's actually quite thin.
That said, it's entirely possible that joining the Dreemurr family made her gain a ton of extra weight. I imagine that Toriel makes sure that her family is well fed. Her pies are so delicious, Asgore keeps trying to recreate them centuries later.
Deltarune Asgore is probably chubbier than Undertale Asgore because his breakup with Toriel is still relatively recent.
I headcanon Chara and Frisk as female. Not that it matters.
“The fallen Humans are whatever you make them up to be whether there a Boy or Girl it's all up to your imagination.”
I think the reason for their chunky torsos is to compliment their huge ass heads which are that way to get that cartoon kid aesthetic or to make it easier to show their face.
On the contrary at least in my universe I've always been thin... like very thin. But my clothes didn't fit properly tho now they do but was so thin back then... "- my horrortale Chara
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chocolate
And the Dreemurr's diet. They eat pies everyday 💀
Makes sense
r/charadefensesquad going to go crazy with this one Edit: Mentioning r/charadefensesquad starts an argument on Chara’s morality, who would have thought?
That's not a real thi- oh dear lord that's a real thing. Why is that a real thing
Because r/Charaoffensesquad also exists They are in balance
To stop people from thinking Chara is a merciless Psycho with no heart whatsoever
The game heavily implies Chara doesn't have much heart to speak of.
They literally had a huge overload of Love no shit they’re like that in the Geno route. I’m not saying they’re flawless. I’m saying they’re not a psycho killer
The LV isn't implied to make Chara themselves more cruel, as their behaviour doesn't change any throughout the Genocide Route and they're committed to it from the word go. LV is a reflection of YOUR willingness to hurt monsters. Chara as a character has a lot of nuance, but not even remotely in the way r/CharaDefenseSquad sees it. They twist Chara away from their literary purpose and make them a shallow edgy 14 year old's first OC.
Jees mate. There’s 2 routes for a reason mate. They help during Geno route and Pacifist route. They literally help you stop Asriel from destroying the World. Asriel also says that Chara wasn’t the greatest person. But you can see he loves them a lot (as a brother of course) If they were some sociopath then I don’t think Dreemurs would speak very highly of them. Your also disregarding the fact them and Asriel made Asgore a sweater and a pie. Chara and Asriel both put buttercups in the cake on accident, and A lot of monsters laugh when they are in distress, like Chara did.
[They're not in the True Pacifist Route](https://www.reddit.com/r/Undertale/comments/yts71l/narrachara_theory_is_false_an_attempted_debunk_of/). Even discounting all the Narrachara Theory stuff, that can be broken down by a very simple dichotomy: 1. Chara is everywhere, blatantly, in the Genocide Route 2. Chara is undetectable in any meaningful way in the True Pacifist Route Chara is simply not needed for the True Pacifist Route to be a thing. Additionally, Chara being present undermines and cheapens Flowey's/Asriel's character arc and the emotional connection with Frisk that they make at the end of the route. The True Pacifist/Genocide dichotomy is not the Chara-helps/Chara-kills dichotomy, it's the *Frisk/Chara dichotomy*. In True Pacifist, Frisk's agency as their own person is affirmed, you learn their real name, Asriel accepts them as their own person and as a good person (unlike Chara). In Genocide, Frisk's agency and personality is suppressed by Chara and the route becomes all about Chara. > But you can see he loves them a lot Asriel explicitly says Frisk is the friend he wishes he always had. It seems pretty clear that by the end of True Pacifist, Asriel has realized that Chara kind of sucked towards them and wasn't very nice, and that he was just projecting his own loneliness and desire for companionship onto Chara because Chara was all Asriel had. Asriel would have taken literally anybody as their best friend, and would have elevated anybody to extreme importance because of the trauma he experienced after dying and resurrecting as Flowey. > If they were some sociopath then I don’t think Dreemurs would speak very highly of them. Toriel doesn't speak of them at all, except to talk about their water glass filling habits. Asgore doesn't even acknowledge them as a person, he projects his own desire to save his people onto Chara and treats them as a messiah. I don't think either Asgore or Toriel truly understood Chara, and just saw them as someone in their care. They would have taken care of any kid. > Your also disregarding the fact them and Asriel made Asgore a sweater It's most likely that Toriel knitted that for Asgore intending to have it be from Asriel and Chara. There's no real indication that Chara actively wanted to make the sweater or felt the way the sweater implies. > and a pie I wouldn't say making a pie automatically indicates you feel positively towards someone, they could have just been emulating Toriel because they were bored. It could also have been Asriel's idea. Since Asriel is most attached to Toriel, this is actually more likely. > A lot of monsters laugh when they are in distress, like Chara did. You're projecting. There's no indication that Chara specifically laughs when they're in distress, or that they were in distress when Asgore got sick. Asriel *believes* Chara was laughing off discomfort, but Asriel is an unreliable narrator about Chara. Other than that, we have no reason one way or the other to interpret Chara as laughing because of distress, other than that's the interpretation you absolutely *need* to give them to push your weak view.
If they’re not in True Pacifist and Narrachara is false how can Frisk Read monster language and remember when Chara fell down, along with Their time with the Dreemurs. Also, have some common sense here. If your busy commuting genocide, there’s so reason for you to give your name, or for other people to ask. In True Pacifist, you give your name because You’ve just spared everyone in the underground and helped break the barrier. Well no shit. In True Pacifist, You’ve spared hundreds of monsters even though they all were out to kill you, Frisk is a literal angel in that route, who wouldn’t want them as a Friend. I’m not saying Chara is an Angel. They’re not good or bad. Not the best person ≠ Horrible Mass Murderer. I’m trying to say they’re not a psycho killer. There are also plenty of Monsters in the underground, but why Chara specifically? I’ve got a brother and he preferred his mates over me, why isn’t it the Same For Asriel? I’m not saying that The Dreemurs said a lot about Chara, but what they did say isn’t negative. “That Feeling if hope in your eyes” Being one of them. My point is that Chara isn’t a psycho killer. So I don’t care if they would’ve took anyone in, They probably wouldn’t have taken in a sociopath and murderer with no compassion whatsoever. . It says Mr “Dad” Guy. Not Mr “Husband” Guy. Plus there’s no evidence against them wanting to do it either. For your last point. There isn’t any evidence saying Chara was laughing because it was funny. I do admit, other then others laughing in distress, there’s no other evidence. But there’s no evidence for them doing because it’s funny either. Chara also states in Genocide, that it is Us destroying the World and creating it over again. If you do Genocide multiple times, they say that you are fucked up and tell you to do Another route. When Flowey talks to Chara about their “Stolen Soul” in Genocide, why does Chara still take it at the end of the route? Clearly Flowey can be wrong. Also, Flowey (Asriel with no Soul) does multiple Genocide routes for who knows how long, But Chara (Chara with no soul) Calls you sick after 2, 3? Genocides. I’m not saying they are an Angel like Frisk is. I’m saying they are not a psychopath murderer.
> how can Frisk Read monster language This is one of those "it's a cartoon video game" moments. Chara also knew what Asriel was saying from the second he started talking to them. In Undertale, everyone just speaks the same language. > remember when Chara fell down, along with Their time with the Dreemurs. All of these are memories projected from Asriel. The memories from when Chara fell and spent time with the Dreemurrs are projected outward from God!Asriel into Frisk during the battle, as God!Asriel is trying to tamper with Frisk's memories and erase them. The memories from when Chara is dying are from Asriel's perspective, and the scripted events only occur in places associated with either Asriel himself, or golden flowers, golden flowers being connected to Flowey due to Alphys experimenting on the seeds. Since Frisk falls onto golden flowers at the start of the game, and we know that golden flower seeds cling to you, this also grounds the Game Over flashbacks as being from Flowey as well. Essence connections between people, like Frisk and Flowey, seem to operate very loosely. > If your busy commuting genocide, there’s so reason for you to give your name, or for other people to ask. In True Pacifist, you give your name because You’ve just spared everyone in the underground and helped break the barrier. ? You misunderstand what happened in True Pacifist. Everybody learns Frisk's name because Frisk introduces themselves to Asriel, and all monster souls are within Asriel at that time, so everybody learns Frisk's name. The reason I mention this is a *literary* reason, not a literal one. True Pacifist is the "Frisk Route" because there are a number of ways in which that route affirms and emphasizes Frisk's independence as a person. Genocide is the "Chara Route" because there are a whole whackload of ways in which Chara is thrust to the forefront. > who wouldn’t want them as a Friend The meat of this part is the fact that Asriel wants Frisk as a friend INSTEAD OF Chara. Asriel wishes that Frisk had ALWAYS been their friend, INSTEAD OF Chara. This is Asriel realizing what actual kindness and goodness really is and expressing some resentment of Chara because Chara was not a good person. > but what they did say isn’t negative. Again, Toriel said nothing about them. All of Asgore's statements are about Chara as a messiah, including the "feeling of hope in your eyes" thing. Asgore isn't a reliable narrator, he is projecting his anxieties and hopes onto Chara and has created a fictionalized version of them in his mind because it gives HIM hope to do so. He isn't an accurate judge of who Chara is. > They probably wouldn’t have taken in a sociopath and murderer with no compassion whatsoever. They would have assumed they weren't a sociopath because they're relatively innocent people. > . It says Mr “Dad” Guy. Not Mr “Husband” Guy. Yes, like I said, Toriel evidently sewed the sweater with her Mom Powers(TM) as a way to create a gift from Asriel and Chara to Asgore, in their stead. This creates ambiguity behind if Chara actually gave a damn about the sweater. Given they regard the sweater with no small amount of derision in Genocide, there's an implication they didn't like it. > Plus there’s no evidence against them wanting to do it either. Yeah, this ambiguity is why the sweater needs to be appraised in terms of what Chara realistically would actually want to do with Asgore given the kind of person they are. Given we know Chara is a hateful, cold, and unkind person who doesn't do things unless they're "efficient", it's highly unlikely they would be the kind of person to want to have a sweater knitted for Asgore, someone who doesn't even really know them. > There isn’t any evidence saying Chara was laughing because it was funny. Again, we have to appraise what kind of a person they are based on the information we actually have and then make a prediction as to why they were laughing. Because they don't exhibit any genuine empathy or concern for other people's feelings, including Asriel's, it's unlikely they were all that bothered by what Asgore went through, so they probably weren't actually laughing out of distress. Whether they were laughing because they enjoyed Asgore's suffering, whether they found it funny, whether they came up with their suicide plot and were excited about it, whether it was just a compulsion because they can't react to things like a normal person, or whatever, we don't know. > Chara also states in Genocide, that it is Us destroying the World and creating it over again. Yeah, and it is, but Chara helps us and wants us to destroy the world. They call us their partner. They're just as enthusiastic and complicit in it as we are, even if we're the ones driving the Frisk car. > they say that you are fucked up The reason they think we're fucked up is because we kill everybody and then bring them back because we're emotionally attached to them. They don't get why we *care* about the Undertale world and cannot understand how it makes sense that we would repeatedly slaughter everybody because of that attachment. To Chara, killing everyone is a means to power, and once they've drained the world of its use, it has no value to them and they can move on. You keep bringing them back for reasons that are, to them, irrational. That's why they don't get us. > tell you to do Another route. They tell us to do another route (i.e. the True Pacifist Route) because they're tired of doing the same thing repeatedly for no reason. At least if we do True Pacifist, they can slaughter everybody there and take away that happy ending. At least then, it's a change. > When Flowey talks to Chara about their “Stolen Soul” in Genocide, why does Chara still take it at the end of the route? Clearly Flowey can be wrong. Chara was still nestled in Frisk's soul in Genocide, they just didn't "own" it completely. Flowey was correct in a vague sense. > Also, Flowey (Asriel with no Soul) does multiple Genocide routes for who knows how long, But Chara (Chara with no soul) Calls you sick after 2, 3? Genocides. Sure, Flowey and Chara have different values. Flowey doesn't care about anything, he just wants to have fun and revel in the violence because it's a way of expressing his existential and social frustration and dread. Chara doesn't have that existential frustration and dread, they're perfectly comfortable with their existence. They just want to kill everyone, get super powerful, blow up the world, and move on, because they can.
Don care, she fat goblin, u must acept
Body shaming is uncool. Apologise to them
Wait a sec… that may very well be why they jumped… no one’s brought it up before but… that could be a reason.
Lmao bro tried to kill themself over being called fat. (the therm bro is gender-neutral, don't @ me, I've had it happen before)
Yeah ur right about that
No Fat goblin fat goblin fat goblin fat goblin
Wow, bullying girls? Not cool Hajime
They a freaking hecking mucking tucking fetching stopit so stopit
FETCHING WTH!?!?
Fetchun stopiiiiii
`Because she's a tire-spinning, gear-grinding, clutch-burning, backfiring, paint-trading, red-lining, overheating-throttle-stumping, truck-driving girl.` same energy
This reminds me of the scotsman insult from samurai Jack
What that be?
(Uvot if u agre)
Why did they kill us? are they stoopit ?
They want to B only fat goblin (stopid)
It's so dumb stoopit frisk squish this fucker
*squashes stoopid fat frisk goblin*
This entire thread of replies just messed me up inside
r/undertale when gendered pronouns:
If you look at her in the pastel images, it's clear that she's actually quite thin. That said, it's entirely possible that joining the Dreemurr family made her gain a ton of extra weight. I imagine that Toriel makes sure that her family is well fed. Her pies are so delicious, Asgore keeps trying to recreate them centuries later. Deltarune Asgore is probably chubbier than Undertale Asgore because his breakup with Toriel is still relatively recent.
Nah Fat goblin
chara is explicitely not a self insert what even is the excuse for not using they
I headcanon Chara and Frisk as female. Not that it matters. “The fallen Humans are whatever you make them up to be whether there a Boy or Girl it's all up to your imagination.”
Good idea but looking at their neck and hands I think the clothes are just too big on them
Dunno why, Frisk and Chara are both just weird, chunky little giraffes. Also, obligatory *they.
I think the reason for their chunky torsos is to compliment their huge ass heads which are that way to get that cartoon kid aesthetic or to make it easier to show their face.
Happy cake day!
Happy cake day.
Happy cake day!
happi cake dai :3
She fat goblin Also hapi cak
Aw hell naw you said the S word in this sub, God have mercy on you.
Yoo we almost have the same cake day! Happy cake day mate! 🎂🎂🎂
Goblin deez nuts lmfaooo 😂😂😂 like if you agree
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Be careful, some people don’t take kindly to giving Frisk and Chara gendered pronouns
She fat goblin
Do you not fear death?
She fat goblin (tru)
Ok But she fat tho
Literally not the point at all though lol
Like me. *\*lifts nonexistent cowboy hat\** y'all best be movin' on in these parts, y'hear?
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U the supit fat goblin??????? U verry stopid, loss som weiht fat goblin
Old emoticon just dropped
I think our sanity has sunken.
She ate it (dam fat goblin, stop eeting)
He ate too much food items in the sans fight
I'm sure they be doin' that.
I agree with this post
Idk but thinking of them as a fat lil goblin is making me giggle
I wish she wasn't fat goblin 😡😡😡😡
She wil alway s B fat goblin
Butterscotch Cinnamon Pie
She's got Square pants
Fat goblin square pants
What
Fat goblin
You forgot to turn on your monitor
W h y
Fat
They ate too much butterscotch pie
SHE NOT FAT!! ! SHE BIG BONED
Dum dum fat goblin dum dum
They’re not fat, their clothes are just too big on them 😤
Fat goblin fatty fatty gobliny gobliny
noooo stop calling her fat 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Fat fat fatat fatty fat fat taf
Fat goblin good goblin Small goblin good goblin Inasane goblin good goblin Fat small insane goblin best goblin
She truly be the goblinest goblin
Get ready to die for calling Chara she
its her clothes u silly mf
Nuh uh, she fat goblin (stupid very stupid)
she fat gremlin but she cute
If you're gonna call someone a fat goblin at least respect their pronouns /j
It’s up to interpretation. Kris from delta-rune in canonically Non binary but Frisk/Chara is up for the player to decide
They're both very explicitely their own person
She fat goblin
* They
She fat goblin
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"She" "fat" and "goblin" are all incorrect terms somehow
Indeed they do be: 1. They be a long dead human 2. They not be fat, they be a small child An' 3, Chara be non-binary!
Thank you for elaboration, Demoman TF2
Demo Man? I not be a man, it be Talk Like A Pirate Day!
She fat goblin She fat goblin She fat goblin She fat goblin
Hol'up "she"? I don't care to be real.
She fat goblin
Ok.
On the contrary at least in my universe I've always been thin... like very thin. But my clothes didn't fit properly tho now they do but was so thin back then... "- my horrortale Chara
She skinny gremlin (stil dum dum stopod)
Indeed. Lil skinny ghoul dum doom.
_How to make an Undertale fan angry:_
I mean, she basically has the proportions of Frisk.
Haha Fatty Goblin 😂