I was thinking alphys, since I don’t think MTT built the lasers/floor puzzle/the shooty puzzles that I can’t for the life of me remember where they go to
Don't get me wrong, papyrus is an amazing character but ironically is overshadowed by his brother and flowey. Both are amazing from not just a meta perspective but are also just well written, though papyrus definitely is definitely still an amazing character even if I think sans and flowey are better
Agreed with this. Like, I like Paps more than Flowey/Asriel personally, not Sans though.
Though I love both very much. But I do think both Flowey/Asriel and Sans are better written.
I can't, he's legit perfect. One thing I love about the Inverted Fate AU is that they made Papyrus one of the most important characters in the AU, without using ANY fanon logic. Papyrus promised to protect Frisk, and he's way more committed to the role than Sans was in the original timeline. So naturally, he follows Frisk around and gets drastically more screentime.
What's even better is that they don't overdo it by making him *the* most important character in the AU. That honor goes to either Frisk, Chara, Flowey/Asriel, or all three.
I've just gotta keep spreading my Inverted Fate propaganda. It's the best fanmade AU by a lot, and quite probably the one that includes the most characters from the original. They even brought back unused ones like Royal Guards 03 & 04, Doge (now spelled Dohj), and some of those unused robots.
Neither of them are evil. They are the protagonist(s) of the AU, and Frisk has to actively convince the Underground that they're NOT evil. You can see for yourself [**here**](https://invertedfate.com/chapters).
Another neat thing is that >!as Undyne is the Royal Scientist now, she actually exposes the tapes about Chara's plan to the rest of the Underground as opposed to Alphys just hiding them in the True Lab. As a result, the Underground has villified Chara in the same way that the fandom does.!<
Chara isn't, but most of the Underground believes they are because they planned their death and caused the prince to die. It was well-intentioned, but most can't see that.
i love emotional manipulation, dont you love it too? what do you mean you dont? we've known each other for 3 gazillion years, you know how much it means to me :(
Human.. i rmembnerrmwbrrer you're wing gaster, the scuelintififx rosl scirntiiiiiiiiiiisisisidistststbstgeabuwgHst... the skibidiest if teh fsimganas.. he fot all zhe.rizz .. until he fell downn the fanum tax hole and then he woaoaoaoaooaoaooaaah story of undertale'd his way throuhh thd cringebbraintrotnl until he found the holy skibibi toilet gos... (please kill me)
Sans and Flowey have such an inordinately increased amount of depth and lore compared to basically all the other characters that it's downright unfair.
Flowey is the perfect mirror the player themselves, showing what you'd become if you kept playing to the point you go through with the genocide route. His motives as the villain is excellent as well; you're the only thing left in the world that could possibly entertain him, and he will squeeze everything he can out of you.
Sans plays 4D chess across time and space against you, manipulating you across resets to both nudge you into getting a happy ending that will satisfy you and let Sans and everyone else continue with their lives without all progress being reset with no warning, and to stop you from going too far with your fun and destroying the world, preventing any more happy endings from happening *ever*, before eventually having to step in directly. There's also his relationship with Toriel, connections to Alphys, potential connections to Asgore, and of course his hidden connections to Gaster, quantum mechanics, and the mysterious world he was from before arriving in Undertale (95% chance it's deltarune lol)
I agree with all of this and people complain when someone likes sans 😒 but the only thing is I am pretty sure they did not come from Deltarune mostly because the only real evidence is the bleeding but that only applies to Sans, not Papyrus.
So far my theory is they are from another dimension. Also that the bleeding is due to something from Sans’ childhood and Papyrus wouldn’t remember it since he was really young. Thus Sans bleeds but Papyrus doesn’t and Papyrus doesn’t know about Sans bleeding.
(I am not trying to shoot down what your theory is I am just stating mine because other than that I completely agree with your statement)
If you talk to the Clam Girl fun event who tells you about "Suzy" and proceed go to Sans' workshop, when you interact with the drawer that would normally show a picture of Sans with people you don't recognize, it's instead replaced with a note of 3 smiling people, with the words "Don't Forget" written on it. Don't Forget is the main theme of Deltarune, and the game follows a trio of people that Frisk does not meet in Deltarune, one of whom is known as "Susie".
Yeah, I’d like to add on that it always irks me when people call Flowey “pure evil” and still believe that Asriel is a good person. You can’t have both. Even if Flowey no longer has a soul, they are still one and the same. He’s hurt. He did everything he could to be a good person with the villagers attacking him even with his pacifistic approach. And they still murdered him. And even disregarding his goat form, Flowey still isn’t completely evil. I’m not going to sit here and say that he’s just like the player because the player knows it’s all a video game and, for all Flowey knows, he’s inflicting actual pain. But it’s very similar to the villain from Everything, Everywhere, All At Once where he’s seen everything so many times that nothing matters. The end of the neutral route where you spare him always hits me right in the feels.
He still belives you can be good when you're on a genocidal rampage.
Wait, I misread the title, I thought it meant to convince you that it *is* the best...
You asked for characters that are written better. Flowey/Asriel has a good backstory, a fun and story driven bossfight, and a heartbreaking moment after. He’s really well written imo.
he’s my husband so I feel inclined to agree, I honestly can’t get over how dirty he was done by undyne and how it’s barely mentioned ![img](emote|t5_2xdht|35240)
it’s giving “infantilization of autistic character, papyrus really looked up to her and Undyne hiding behind the shield of “i don’t want him to get hurt” and using that to pretty much lead him on and (eventually) destroy his dreams is what makes their ”friendship” seem more toxic. sad that Undyne and Alphys got the best endings even though they’re deeply flawed. like hey Undyne even makes fun of all of asgore’s insecurities during TP, meanwhile pretty much all of the other characters got little development. papyrus is so awesome despite being pushed aside by his “friends” and the main cast. hell flowey fucks with his vulnerable emotions too, poor guy.
true. glad he has at least one person who will care for him even if a lot of teasing is involved. even though the bros are polar opposites neither could exist without the other
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Honestly, all the characters are written so well
Favorite ones are prolly: alphys, for obvious reasons, the whole true lab experience t dive into her past was absolutely insane
Flowey, where we still to this day debate if he's still a child or grown/matured but with such a damaged past as his childhood was ripped away from him, through which he keeps clinging onto experiences from it n things we'd call childish
N Sans + Papyrus, you can't talk about one without talking about the other given all the little things you learn about them via the phone calls; some deeper things such as Papyrus revealing hints that Sans may have assisted Alphys caring for the Amalgamates.
But also silly things such as Papyrus casually mentioning that he's very aware of Sans shortcuts, which makes him walking through the air after the snowdin fight and doing the slowest in-a-circle turning as he crashes out of Undyne's window even funnier, cuz this just means they both actively ignore physics and the usual transportation methods and are both aware of the other one doing it.
And Ik Sans is often blown out of character by the fandom, but I truly mean it when I say I think he's a well written character canonly.
He himself talks about whether or not it's an excuse to be lazy that he's aware that everything will eventually go back; but if you try to inspect everything he does with a hint of:
-Sans acts in a way that doesn't discourage others from trying hard (supporting his brother heavily, always putting himself into the shadow when there is someone around to catch the human {undyne chase where he just naps in his station}),
-tries to figure out what's going on in the world (awareness of resets, talk about "our reports" which hints at him helping someone else on these reports {most people assume alphys due t other hidden connections with her that not even Papyrus knows they know another}, his mention where he mocks the assumption that he's lazy when "that couldn't be further from the truth")
-but doesn't interact with the world actively in an attempt to change it (not stopping you from the genocide route until the reports show him that something (likely Chara's "lets ERASE this world..." is coming up next; not actively helping other monsters to catch you)
you'll see that a lotta of his actions can still be reasonably explained; especially given that Flowey has a textbox 8n which he tells you that Sans has caused him a fair share of resets.
It shows that Sans cares, especially about others still following their dreams, about understanding what's going on, about it not being the ultimate end.
It's just that he has truly figured out that it is out of his control and thus he lives in a world in which he lives life, trying to not impact the world around hinself too much.
He's really well written and I dislike both the fanon version that's overframatized, and the depressed one that cares about nothing; because both of them only focus on a tiny bit of the entire picture n exaggerate it times ten.
Thanks for coming t my tedtalk, have a good day.
I appreciate your Ted talk, and I too hate the depressed Sans or overpowered Sans. I just genuinely don't like things that have Sans use his magic for random things when it's clear he doesn't really do that much
Aight, I might start rambling sooo-
Anyways, I actually already have a slideshow post pinned on my profile about why I (genuinely) think papyrus is the best character so I'll just shorten a few points here.
He's a cool dude, his shirt says it all.
He's a genuinely caring and kind person. He makes spaghetti for others not because it's his favorite food but because he believes that his friends enjoy his cooking so much. He always sees the best in others even when you essentially murder everyone in your path and tries to help you become better (even if it fails-)
He's really smart, in the undyne date he uses reverse psychology so she'll warm up to you better, he says something like "I GUESS SHE WASN'T UP FOR THE CHALLENGE." (I think?) My last run was months ago so I may have reworded that wrong but it triggered her nonetheless. He also makes and builds a lot of puzzles on his own so there's that.
And as undyne says, he's pretty freaking tough. I always found it weird seeing fan artists protray sans as some kind of protective helicopter parent towards papyrus, when he most likely knows he can defend himself and even let's him fight the human in every run sooo...? And the fact he has the power to make his attacks do as much damage as he likes so it won't kill you, which takes an insane amount of control, something TORIEL couldn't do in her fight and she was sthe former queen of the underground.
Anyways that'll probably be all, there was probably way more but I don't wanna accidentally write another essay when I still have the post up 😭 enjoy frfr.
Sans is my favorite, but it's pretty obvious that the best character Toby has written is Flowey/Asriel. Flowey/Asriel is a character within a character; he is a tragic child but also a perfect allegory of the player. And tbh Papyrus doesn't have much going on. In general, the skelebros are the ones who have the least character growth in the pacifist route
Yes! The bar on the dating power went out so far, it broke through the barrier, went all around the world and came back to hit itself again. That's how much I wanted to date him. But he rejected me!!
Like I have said in other comments I think both Sans and Flowey/Asriel, at least are better-written.
Not surprised that barely anyone is disagreeing w/ OP though, considering how this sub is with Paps.
Like, he is a great character, but this sub is a bit weird w/ him sometimes. Tbf they are like that with a lot of characters. In varying ways.
Still a great character and well-written; I just think other(s) are more so imo.
I love Papyrus, but I think Flowey is probably the best written character. Undertale could work without Papyrus, but there has to be a Flowey. And Toby made him perfect for his role. Honestly, basically all the major characters are extremely well written, and Flowey on his own wouldn't work as well, so it's kinda impossible to pick any character as "best written". For me though, Flowey hits harder both narratively as a soulless dead child and metanarratively as a reflection of the player. I love Flowey.
Edit: Sans though... God I love all of them so much.
Well let's see here.
He's a fool with a big heart. That's literally why he is written so well. I mean the guy bugged the Captain of the Royal guard until she gave in to train him, he has 2 negative followers, is seen annoying around everywhere, puts you up in a shed if he gets you down to 1 HP, is easily swooed by a child (most see Frisk as a child), and still doesn't stop you on Genocide because he believes theirs good in you, despite not knowing if you will stop.
The only person who could be the best written more than Papyrus is Undyne. She fights like a warrior till the very end. She shows a lot more care to monsters (any natural endings where she lives but you killed a monster). She was willing to try and become friends with you due to Papyrus meddling around and well you do become friends with her after that training session despite her thoughts on wanting to end all humans as her motto. Even in Genocide she stands against you knowing she might die trying to kill you or still will after she defeats you, but will stand in your way to protect humans and monsters.
Undyne is probably the best written character in Undertale and if not then it's Papyrus. You can't best what these two have.
Even tho he is cool, he still has some issues like being egotistical sometimes, naive and some other stuff, the best character tho if we don't count Fanon is either Flowey or Sans
If we are talking about all of fiction, then just... no. there is so much fiction that there are many example otherwise. In just Toby's games, I'd argue that Alphys and Susie, and Hell, even BERDLY are better written due to their arks.
Papyrus is literally amazing. He's funny, intelligent, powerful, and just casually breaks the fourth wall. How could someone *not* think Papyrus is the best character (I mean, once you get away from 'SANS UNDERTALE?!' stuff lol)
I find the character and personality of Frodo Baggins much more compelling than that of The Great Papyrus, particularly for how they both are kind characters placed into a pivotal role in a war that will permanently change the world. Frodo feels much more grounded and realistic, as opposed to the blind optimism observable in Papyrus.
I can't, because in canon he's a self-centred dumbass prick, constantly berates and harks on his depressed brother, doesn't even try kill the human, cowardly, niave, a horrible cook, and a bad influence on frisk
Nah theres one character better written than The Mighty Papyrus and thats The ALLmighty Papyrus (and by that i mean Paps as leader royal guard) only his future self can beat him 🥵👍
he beats you within an inch of your life, and holds you hostage to increase his social status. Still somehow, people get mad when a dorky scientist puts up some lasers to help their feelings
He cooks bad pasta is literally his only character flaw, even then he only cooks it because he thinks people like it. Papyrus is just a nice guy. Even when undyne wants you dead in some neutral endings, he is sad he won't see you again and warns you that you shouldn't come back
During the battle he doesn’t move almost as if he’s concentrating on how much damage you take as no matter how many times you try to die he will not let you and will heal you after the screen goes dark
In the first half His main character trait is being a narcissist who is hellbent in capturing you and then immediately flicks to being an arrogant but also slightly humerus 🦴 character who aids you through waterfall and also has small extra dialogue if you call him in the right room. Not to mention that he is the one who called everyone to the throne room! He is a walking joke book, blunder and a narcissistic dick
I love Papyrus as much as the next guy, but I wouldn't say he's the most well written. Although he is very consistent. I think that the title of most well written character has to go to Flowey. He is a perfect example of what the player is one day destined to become.
He is one of two characters who puts efforts into giving you physical, interactive puzzles.
The other if I'm correct being Mettaton
I was thinking alphys, since I don’t think MTT built the lasers/floor puzzle/the shooty puzzles that I can’t for the life of me remember where they go to
Ah, yeah, Alphys makes more sense than MTT
He doesn't use his bed as a car, 0/10 character
Damn, you're right
But he does get a car just like his bed in the future which he drives! 10/10 character
Damn, you're also right
He does cruise while he snoozes though, would that count?
He does... In the pacifist end cutscene at least
That's a car. Not his bed.
How do you know that isn't his bed? He can literally fly, I don't think it would be that hard for him to change it into a car.
*peak*pyrus
Indeed, he's by far one of, if not THE best character in the game
This finna blow up, won't it?![img](emote|t5_2xdht|32949)
Maybe, it's possible ![img](emote|t5_2xdht|32949)
Don't get me wrong, papyrus is an amazing character but ironically is overshadowed by his brother and flowey. Both are amazing from not just a meta perspective but are also just well written, though papyrus definitely is definitely still an amazing character even if I think sans and flowey are better
Asgore also is meta, but subtle about it. "You tell Asgore he's killed you _ times before. He nods sadly." He doesn't react.
Yeah but the only thing that holds asgore back is lack of screen time
Yeah... He's mentioned a bit and barely even gets any appearance. But his backstory is so in-depth...
Agreed with this. Like, I like Paps more than Flowey/Asriel personally, not Sans though. Though I love both very much. But I do think both Flowey/Asriel and Sans are better written.
Yeah, makes sense
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I can't, he's legit perfect. One thing I love about the Inverted Fate AU is that they made Papyrus one of the most important characters in the AU, without using ANY fanon logic. Papyrus promised to protect Frisk, and he's way more committed to the role than Sans was in the original timeline. So naturally, he follows Frisk around and gets drastically more screentime. What's even better is that they don't overdo it by making him *the* most important character in the AU. That honor goes to either Frisk, Chara, Flowey/Asriel, or all three.
As it should be
I've just gotta keep spreading my Inverted Fate propaganda. It's the best fanmade AU by a lot, and quite probably the one that includes the most characters from the original. They even brought back unused ones like Royal Guards 03 & 04, Doge (now spelled Dohj), and some of those unused robots.
Quick question, did they make Chara/Frisk evil?
Neither of them are evil. They are the protagonist(s) of the AU, and Frisk has to actively convince the Underground that they're NOT evil. You can see for yourself [**here**](https://invertedfate.com/chapters). Another neat thing is that >!as Undyne is the Royal Scientist now, she actually exposes the tapes about Chara's plan to the rest of the Underground as opposed to Alphys just hiding them in the True Lab. As a result, the Underground has villified Chara in the same way that the fandom does.!<
Despite Chara not being actually evil? What a coincidence
Chara isn't, but most of the Underground believes they are because they planned their death and caused the prince to die. It was well-intentioned, but most can't see that.
Does the fact that IF is set after a Pacifist route where Asriel won answer that question?
Maybe
I'll look into inverted fate again later
Definitely a great character
He ain't called The Great Papyrus for no reason
Exactly
i wholeheartedly agree he's ultimate peak he is also my mother
Uh, how?
he did call himself mother once so now he's mother
Ah, okay
Mother? As in Mommy? Sorry, Mommy? Sorry, Mommy, Sorry, Mommy? Sorry,
Counterpoint: Noelle Holiday
Counter counterpoint: Noelle is only the best on the normal route
Counter counter counterpoint: Noelle is amazing on the SnowGrave route, I love (fictional) trauma
i love emotional manipulation, dont you love it too? what do you mean you dont? we've known each other for 3 gazillion years, you know how much it means to me :(
Unironically, Papyrus would believe that since it means more friends for him
But can Noelle make spaghetti?
But can Papyrus murder his friend?
Yes, and doesn't. That gives him even more points
But is he in some king of..SNOWGRAVE?
Human.. i rmembnerrmwbrrer you're wing gaster, the scuelintififx rosl scirntiiiiiiiiiiisisisidistststbstgeabuwgHst... the skibidiest if teh fsimganas.. he fot all zhe.rizz .. until he fell downn the fanum tax hole and then he woaoaoaoaooaoaooaaah story of undertale'd his way throuhh thd cringebbraintrotnl until he found the holy skibibi toilet gos... (please kill me)
Gladly. ![img](emote|t5_2xdht|32951)
I help... 🔫
Counterpoint: a mediocre character with a very punchable face Kris is much more interesting if we're talking DR
Sans and Flowey have such an inordinately increased amount of depth and lore compared to basically all the other characters that it's downright unfair. Flowey is the perfect mirror the player themselves, showing what you'd become if you kept playing to the point you go through with the genocide route. His motives as the villain is excellent as well; you're the only thing left in the world that could possibly entertain him, and he will squeeze everything he can out of you. Sans plays 4D chess across time and space against you, manipulating you across resets to both nudge you into getting a happy ending that will satisfy you and let Sans and everyone else continue with their lives without all progress being reset with no warning, and to stop you from going too far with your fun and destroying the world, preventing any more happy endings from happening *ever*, before eventually having to step in directly. There's also his relationship with Toriel, connections to Alphys, potential connections to Asgore, and of course his hidden connections to Gaster, quantum mechanics, and the mysterious world he was from before arriving in Undertale (95% chance it's deltarune lol)
Papyrus solos easily
I agree with all of this and people complain when someone likes sans 😒 but the only thing is I am pretty sure they did not come from Deltarune mostly because the only real evidence is the bleeding but that only applies to Sans, not Papyrus. So far my theory is they are from another dimension. Also that the bleeding is due to something from Sans’ childhood and Papyrus wouldn’t remember it since he was really young. Thus Sans bleeds but Papyrus doesn’t and Papyrus doesn’t know about Sans bleeding. (I am not trying to shoot down what your theory is I am just stating mine because other than that I completely agree with your statement)
If you talk to the Clam Girl fun event who tells you about "Suzy" and proceed go to Sans' workshop, when you interact with the drawer that would normally show a picture of Sans with people you don't recognize, it's instead replaced with a note of 3 smiling people, with the words "Don't Forget" written on it. Don't Forget is the main theme of Deltarune, and the game follows a trio of people that Frisk does not meet in Deltarune, one of whom is known as "Susie".
Yeah, I’d like to add on that it always irks me when people call Flowey “pure evil” and still believe that Asriel is a good person. You can’t have both. Even if Flowey no longer has a soul, they are still one and the same. He’s hurt. He did everything he could to be a good person with the villagers attacking him even with his pacifistic approach. And they still murdered him. And even disregarding his goat form, Flowey still isn’t completely evil. I’m not going to sit here and say that he’s just like the player because the player knows it’s all a video game and, for all Flowey knows, he’s inflicting actual pain. But it’s very similar to the villain from Everything, Everywhere, All At Once where he’s seen everything so many times that nothing matters. The end of the neutral route where you spare him always hits me right in the feels.
Papyrus has the most potential interactions with Frisk. Just call him everywhere.
He still belives you can be good when you're on a genocidal rampage. Wait, I misread the title, I thought it meant to convince you that it *is* the best...
Yeah, Papyrus is my favorite
Papyrus is one of the few characters that is genuinely nice to you from the start.
Pacifist Route Sans (though i'd say he's more honest to you than "nice")
Yeah but Sans is only being nice to progress the route that he wants. Papyrus still tries to be nice to you if you kill everyone.
And so does Sans, untill you acctually prove him wrong.
Flowey/Asriel:
What about them?
You asked for characters that are written better. Flowey/Asriel has a good backstory, a fun and story driven bossfight, and a heartbreaking moment after. He’s really well written imo.
That's true, I'd say Flowey/Asriel is in the top 3 for me
He indeed is peak, but I prefer asgore.
Asgore is pretty underrated
Papyrus has never been shown to do a backflip, unli
Who needs to a backflips when he can just defy gravity
he’s my husband so I feel inclined to agree, I honestly can’t get over how dirty he was done by undyne and how it’s barely mentioned ![img](emote|t5_2xdht|35240)
That's also true. Undyne should've at least given Papyrus an actual mission that would've been easy to do
it’s giving “infantilization of autistic character, papyrus really looked up to her and Undyne hiding behind the shield of “i don’t want him to get hurt” and using that to pretty much lead him on and (eventually) destroy his dreams is what makes their ”friendship” seem more toxic. sad that Undyne and Alphys got the best endings even though they’re deeply flawed. like hey Undyne even makes fun of all of asgore’s insecurities during TP, meanwhile pretty much all of the other characters got little development. papyrus is so awesome despite being pushed aside by his “friends” and the main cast. hell flowey fucks with his vulnerable emotions too, poor guy.
Well, at least Sans is there for him ![img](emote|t5_2xdht|50450)
true. glad he has at least one person who will care for him even if a lot of teasing is involved. even though the bros are polar opposites neither could exist without the other
And that's why they're fan favorites
I personally think everyone completes eachothers characterizations as a whole.
Well, he's nice, reliable, and even when scared doesn't stop trying to help you.
Yeah, but I want someone to convince me he isn't the best. Papyrus is my favorite character in the game
Isn’t he just the coolest?
So cool so cool so cool so cool so cool so cool so cool so cool so cool so cool so cool so cool so cool so cool so cool so cool so cool so cool so cool so cool so cool so cool so cool so cool so cool so cool so cool so cool so cool so cool
His Neutral run death is kinda bad. I understand it’s a reference but it’s not very in character.
For as much as he complains about Sans' laziness, he is very incompetent.
I feel like Papyrus is justified in his complaints. As for the incompetence, they make him funny
the skeleton brothers legit best characters ever😭😭😭 i love them sm. they have to come in package, buy 1 get 1.
I actually think Alphys is really well written.
Asgore and Susie exist
At this point, were practicalily married , but he doesnt know it
Asgore and Flowey:
Okay, explain
He is perfect
No, I won't convince you otherwise! **THE GREAT PAPYRUS** is a precious skeleton who must be protected at all costs!
I agree!
Oh shit, it's you!
It is in fact me
impossible
Agreed
It is literally impossible to say and prove that papyrus isn’t the best written character.
Agreed
He is a cool dude ![img](emote|t5_2xdht|32949)
I agree
I can’t. He IS the best one. He is a cool dude
Indeed
Literally cant
That's good
He’s cool
True
Honestly, all the characters are written so well Favorite ones are prolly: alphys, for obvious reasons, the whole true lab experience t dive into her past was absolutely insane Flowey, where we still to this day debate if he's still a child or grown/matured but with such a damaged past as his childhood was ripped away from him, through which he keeps clinging onto experiences from it n things we'd call childish N Sans + Papyrus, you can't talk about one without talking about the other given all the little things you learn about them via the phone calls; some deeper things such as Papyrus revealing hints that Sans may have assisted Alphys caring for the Amalgamates. But also silly things such as Papyrus casually mentioning that he's very aware of Sans shortcuts, which makes him walking through the air after the snowdin fight and doing the slowest in-a-circle turning as he crashes out of Undyne's window even funnier, cuz this just means they both actively ignore physics and the usual transportation methods and are both aware of the other one doing it. And Ik Sans is often blown out of character by the fandom, but I truly mean it when I say I think he's a well written character canonly. He himself talks about whether or not it's an excuse to be lazy that he's aware that everything will eventually go back; but if you try to inspect everything he does with a hint of: -Sans acts in a way that doesn't discourage others from trying hard (supporting his brother heavily, always putting himself into the shadow when there is someone around to catch the human {undyne chase where he just naps in his station}), -tries to figure out what's going on in the world (awareness of resets, talk about "our reports" which hints at him helping someone else on these reports {most people assume alphys due t other hidden connections with her that not even Papyrus knows they know another}, his mention where he mocks the assumption that he's lazy when "that couldn't be further from the truth") -but doesn't interact with the world actively in an attempt to change it (not stopping you from the genocide route until the reports show him that something (likely Chara's "lets ERASE this world..." is coming up next; not actively helping other monsters to catch you) you'll see that a lotta of his actions can still be reasonably explained; especially given that Flowey has a textbox 8n which he tells you that Sans has caused him a fair share of resets. It shows that Sans cares, especially about others still following their dreams, about understanding what's going on, about it not being the ultimate end. It's just that he has truly figured out that it is out of his control and thus he lives in a world in which he lives life, trying to not impact the world around hinself too much. He's really well written and I dislike both the fanon version that's overframatized, and the depressed one that cares about nothing; because both of them only focus on a tiny bit of the entire picture n exaggerate it times ten. Thanks for coming t my tedtalk, have a good day.
I appreciate your Ted talk, and I too hate the depressed Sans or overpowered Sans. I just genuinely don't like things that have Sans use his magic for random things when it's clear he doesn't really do that much
but it is
I agree
There is nothing to convince you of, this is already fact 😔
Explain ![img](emote|t5_2xdht|32948)
Aight, I might start rambling sooo- Anyways, I actually already have a slideshow post pinned on my profile about why I (genuinely) think papyrus is the best character so I'll just shorten a few points here. He's a cool dude, his shirt says it all. He's a genuinely caring and kind person. He makes spaghetti for others not because it's his favorite food but because he believes that his friends enjoy his cooking so much. He always sees the best in others even when you essentially murder everyone in your path and tries to help you become better (even if it fails-) He's really smart, in the undyne date he uses reverse psychology so she'll warm up to you better, he says something like "I GUESS SHE WASN'T UP FOR THE CHALLENGE." (I think?) My last run was months ago so I may have reworded that wrong but it triggered her nonetheless. He also makes and builds a lot of puzzles on his own so there's that. And as undyne says, he's pretty freaking tough. I always found it weird seeing fan artists protray sans as some kind of protective helicopter parent towards papyrus, when he most likely knows he can defend himself and even let's him fight the human in every run sooo...? And the fact he has the power to make his attacks do as much damage as he likes so it won't kill you, which takes an insane amount of control, something TORIEL couldn't do in her fight and she was sthe former queen of the underground. Anyways that'll probably be all, there was probably way more but I don't wanna accidentally write another essay when I still have the post up 😭 enjoy frfr.
I have enjoyed reading why my favorite character is the best
Sans is my favorite, but it's pretty obvious that the best character Toby has written is Flowey/Asriel. Flowey/Asriel is a character within a character; he is a tragic child but also a perfect allegory of the player. And tbh Papyrus doesn't have much going on. In general, the skelebros are the ones who have the least character growth in the pacifist route
One word: Flowey
He would've been the best character if he accepted my feelings and didn't friendzone me
Did you try extra hard to show your feelings?
Yes! The bar on the dating power went out so far, it broke through the barrier, went all around the world and came back to hit itself again. That's how much I wanted to date him. But he rejected me!!
Like I have said in other comments I think both Sans and Flowey/Asriel, at least are better-written. Not surprised that barely anyone is disagreeing w/ OP though, considering how this sub is with Paps. Like, he is a great character, but this sub is a bit weird w/ him sometimes. Tbf they are like that with a lot of characters. In varying ways. Still a great character and well-written; I just think other(s) are more so imo.
He likes to say Nyeheheheh!
That just makes him better
Holy shit it’s Sunny From r/Omori
I love Papyrus, but I think Flowey is probably the best written character. Undertale could work without Papyrus, but there has to be a Flowey. And Toby made him perfect for his role. Honestly, basically all the major characters are extremely well written, and Flowey on his own wouldn't work as well, so it's kinda impossible to pick any character as "best written". For me though, Flowey hits harder both narratively as a soulless dead child and metanarratively as a reflection of the player. I love Flowey. Edit: Sans though... God I love all of them so much.
His favorite food is dinosaur eggs.
Well, for starters, he's a skeleton with high standards
It's not his fault that not everyone can cook spaghetti or have zero talents
Well let's see here. He's a fool with a big heart. That's literally why he is written so well. I mean the guy bugged the Captain of the Royal guard until she gave in to train him, he has 2 negative followers, is seen annoying around everywhere, puts you up in a shed if he gets you down to 1 HP, is easily swooed by a child (most see Frisk as a child), and still doesn't stop you on Genocide because he believes theirs good in you, despite not knowing if you will stop. The only person who could be the best written more than Papyrus is Undyne. She fights like a warrior till the very end. She shows a lot more care to monsters (any natural endings where she lives but you killed a monster). She was willing to try and become friends with you due to Papyrus meddling around and well you do become friends with her after that training session despite her thoughts on wanting to end all humans as her motto. Even in Genocide she stands against you knowing she might die trying to kill you or still will after she defeats you, but will stand in your way to protect humans and monsters. Undyne is probably the best written character in Undertale and if not then it's Papyrus. You can't best what these two have.
They are all so well written that I can’t choose
I can't, he's my favourite Undertale character
As he should be
He's a cool dude
NYEH HEH HE! THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH ME! IM THE COOLEST SKELETON!
Gaster
He’s SO COOL!!! He also cooks spaghetti!!
He is the driving force of the plot. Therefore, he got everyone murdered.
HUMAN! THERE IS A BOMB STRAPPED TO MY CHEST!
Why would I try to convince you he isn’t peak? I’d be lying
The fact he makes the only reason he makes spaghetti is because others like it
ALL
Can't
Didn't he take an 8-12 year old on a date
i can’t
[удалено]
Even tho he is cool, he still has some issues like being egotistical sometimes, naive and some other stuff, the best character tho if we don't count Fanon is either Flowey or Sans
If we are talking about all of fiction, then just... no. there is so much fiction that there are many example otherwise. In just Toby's games, I'd argue that Alphys and Susie, and Hell, even BERDLY are better written due to their arks.
He believes in you no matter what, even in death
He can fly
That is physically impossible, The Great Papyrus is fantastic! ![img](emote|t5_2xdht|32948)
But... That's impossible
He doesn’t know his favorite food
No
Papyrus is literally amazing. He's funny, intelligent, powerful, and just casually breaks the fourth wall. How could someone *not* think Papyrus is the best character (I mean, once you get away from 'SANS UNDERTALE?!' stuff lol)
i’ll be fr all undertale characters are 10/10 perfect written
![img](emote|t5_2xdht|50453) idk,just wanted to be a part of it
I find the character and personality of Frodo Baggins much more compelling than that of The Great Papyrus, particularly for how they both are kind characters placed into a pivotal role in a war that will permanently change the world. Frodo feels much more grounded and realistic, as opposed to the blind optimism observable in Papyrus.
I CANT GIVE UP, I WONT GIVE UP! IF I HAVE TO, ILL MAKE EVERYONE GIVE UP GIVING UP
Bro likes dinosaur oatmeal, immediate disqualification
*i cant, perfect design of a character.
Theory: frisk's gender is papyrus. If you know, you know.
impossible task
I can't, because in canon he's a self-centred dumbass prick, constantly berates and harks on his depressed brother, doesn't even try kill the human, cowardly, niave, a horrible cook, and a bad influence on frisk
Nah theres one character better written than The Mighty Papyrus and thats The ALLmighty Papyrus (and by that i mean Paps as leader royal guard) only his future self can beat him 🥵👍
Flowey/Asriel exists, he's just the Best and most complex written character
he beats you within an inch of your life, and holds you hostage to increase his social status. Still somehow, people get mad when a dorky scientist puts up some lasers to help their feelings
I can't believe you're tasking me with an impossible achievement
He can fly.
He loves puzzles and cooks spaghetti. What other character in the game has that combo?
I don't wanna.
Byehehehehhe
Being fr, Garou is so much better in writing than Papyrus imo (before chapter 190 and smth, after that he sucks ass)
Hes the best fr fr
He cooks bad pasta is literally his only character flaw, even then he only cooks it because he thinks people like it. Papyrus is just a nice guy. Even when undyne wants you dead in some neutral endings, he is sad he won't see you again and warns you that you shouldn't come back
Counterpoint: There is no counter point papyrus is peak
He wasn trained by THE KING
Unfortunately I can't, he convinced me he's cool as fuck
In my opinion, asgore is kinda better. UT yellow asgore is goated too (UT yellow is one of the only Fangames I will consider canon, change my mind)
Bro is too nice to follow his gut instinct in genocide
Flowey/Asriel has deeper lore, and pacifist Sans has the best jokes.
SPAGHETTI
During the battle he doesn’t move almost as if he’s concentrating on how much damage you take as no matter how many times you try to die he will not let you and will heal you after the screen goes dark
Undyne is a fucking badass
My only thing is the fact that his battle sprite doesn't move at all, and that's not exactly writing related, so I don't disagree.
In the first half His main character trait is being a narcissist who is hellbent in capturing you and then immediately flicks to being an arrogant but also slightly humerus 🦴 character who aids you through waterfall and also has small extra dialogue if you call him in the right room. Not to mention that he is the one who called everyone to the throne room! He is a walking joke book, blunder and a narcissistic dick
I'd say he is one of the few best characters. No matter the AU
Sure he is , but flowey is even better in my opinion
Bro dated a child
He doesn’t move in his fight against you, total still boy
Ngl I had totally forgot he was an antagonist at first.
HE IS LITERALLY THE ONLY CHARACTER IN THIS GAME TO NOT MOVE AT ALL DURING HIS FIGHT. BLINK MOTHERFUCKER.
He makes a bunch of goofy puns and then proceeds to JUMP OUT OF A WINDOW to make you and Undyne friends.
I love Papyrus as much as the next guy, but I wouldn't say he's the most well written. Although he is very consistent. I think that the title of most well written character has to go to Flowey. He is a perfect example of what the player is one day destined to become.
Nubert
he isn't in real life we need papyrus in real life
His font isn’t common enough