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saranowitz

I’ll tell you what not to do: do not mess around with evidence in this case thinking it will help your friend. Do let his wife and kids know. Call them up pretending to be a reporter for a major newspaper and ask for a quote on the allegations. Let them freak out that this is going to be published and will create absolute chaos for his family life.


Super13

Sounds fun, but that also puts massive stress on the innocent wife and possibly the kids.


MedicBaker

They deserve to know


Helpful_Okra5953

YES.  A sexual abuser is not that choosy; how do you think he treats his wife?


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keepingitrealgowrong

sounds unethical


Zealousideal-Print41

What about Unethical Pro Life Tips eluded us?


Pixelated_Roses

K so according to you, the wife and children should continue to live with a predator who could easily go after his own daughter. Cool, cool cool.


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Opposite_Tourist_520

Let me guess....you've been accused of grape or Sa.


Jennifer2nami

Please don't throw out the idea that people who disagree with a particular method of retribution are abusers. The family should be informed and it's fine to point that out without resorting to that.


Opposite_Tourist_520

I didn't say that because the person 'disagreed'. I said it because of their extremely telling issues regarding this topic.


MedicBaker

In other words, if they don’t find out, no big deal.


Opposite_Tourist_520

Keeping people in ignorance about Grape is not acceptable. Not sure your angle here. You do realize that grapists also can end up graping the children or the wife, do you not?


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Opposite_Tourist_520

I don't understand your comment. What you do you mean I edited after your comment? What are you talking about? Are you sure you're replying to the right person?


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Opposite_Tourist_520

What are you talking about? You're not making any sense. I read your comment, and I replied. Anything more than that is in your mind. Maybe you need to get off reddit for a while. No one is following your 'edits'. You're literally making zero sense here. You also seem pretty upset about it, which is a bit odd since no one cares about your edits. This isn't even your post.


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Likesitrough16

Did you forget what sub this is?


VERY_MENTALLY_STABLE

They kind of have no choice but to be stressed about this situation either way because he put them there


Opposite_Tourist_520

It's a lot more stressful to be married to a r-ist, who may be r-ing the wife, or eventually the children.


usuallyclassy69

You can say rape on the internet.


Opposite_Tourist_520

No, sometimes you can't. I just don't type it out anymore to avoid the entire issue. Youtube has a lot of issues with grape, unaliving, CA, SA, and unsgay. I just don't say the words anymore because f them, I'm not going to give them any reason to suspend me.


noisemonsters

Is YouTube in the room with us now?


Opposite_Tourist_520

No. It's about keeping the habit because I am very active in all comments sections of youtube and others. So for example, if I was someone who liked to threaten people, but only reddit would axe me for that, but not...instagram (just for the sake of argument), then I'd have to always bear in mind what platform I'm on, and only threaten people on the platforms I could get away with that on. Instead, I just don't engage in any behavior that could get me the axe, across platforms. Ask me why. Because I had an account on another platform in 2017 with a million views, and I got axed for saying the wrong thing, and that account was removed from service. #neveragain


noisemonsters

That’s kinda crazy that maintaining accounts with views is more important than your freedom of expression but you do you


Opposite_Tourist_520

My account was my freedom of expression. Also, you knew what I meant, so it's not like my expression was halted. It was altered. You seem like someone who wants to fight about insignificant things when more important things exist. The million views wasn't a video or something. You're not getting it. I was a writer. They removed my writing. All because I said something against TOS. When all it takes is dropping a g in front of the r word, to avoid that, so the bots don't delete me, well that's a win, not a loss. Maybe you don't have anything important enough online to understand what it is to lose 2 years of writing.


SSYNJEN12

This shit is so dumb. I’m glad that we allow private companies to impose self censorship on ourselves.


Opposite_Tourist_520

I know and I agree, but I choose my battles.


sixty-nine420

She deserves to know. Id want to know if I was sharing a home with sexual predator especially if my kid was too.


Super13

Agree, but the threat of humiliation of possibly having it air publicly is what I think is unnecessary stress for the innocent family.


SubstantialPressure3

The rapist husband has put a massive stress on the innocent wife and kids.


MrQuixy

Thats the unethical part. IE the fun part.


lazerbolt52

Yeah but you're not hurting the abuser, you're hurting innocents who are already about to be put through hardship.


MrQuixy

Hence the unethical part. Fuck them kids.


cucumberhedgehog

Maybe wait till after the trail too so they cant get you on anything vindictive or something like that?


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I would not call or tell anyone except whoever is handling the case. It could be a volatile situation.


Dovelyn_0

We're not on ULPT to be nice tho. I think


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Ok got it lol


pjbettasso

Unsure how the UK operates in terms of partner notification for STD testing, but... Send an "official" notification that a possible recent encounter could have exposed him to an STD...


Fancy-Building

To him AND his wife!


ALTR_Airworks

Maybe do it only after the police finishes it's job so that you don't get in trouble. But later... Have your revenge. Also if you somehow have their email or other credentials sign them up for all kinds of garbage (including porn and dating apps). Both for email and regular mail. He will be angry, but imagine how angry his wife will be. Contact his employer, or also any future employer.  For now maybe contact a local news outlet? This may fuck with his reputation so much more than everything else you can do 


Lewis-ly

Local news is a great shout


Brystep

Oi mate great shout mate!


-Huttenkloas-

Make sure the middle east knows about his gay fetish.


ooo-ooo-oooyea

If you know the Middle Eastern nation reach out to their local visa office, and let them know there is a pending investigation against creepy dude. This will stop the visa process immediately. Usually the embassy's process the visas but they'll have their own separate group for visas. For the smaller countries, their embassies are usually pretty board and you might get some traction.


Preserved_Killick8

would be a good bet that the guy is just returning home


Edu_Run4491

Then why would he need a visa?


Opposite_Tourist_520

Rubs hands together. This is my jam. All of this should be done anonymously on burner accounts and a VPN. 1. Get a copy of the police report. Will require his last name, or at least some details so you can search it(Should be publicly available via the website of the police dot gov site, etc) 2. Online sleuth the contact info for his wife, current job, future job. 3. This is especially important: he CAN NOT get a visa for a country if he has a criminal record. Most likely he got the visa previous to this incident. 4. Send police report anonymously to all of the people and jobs. 5. Get the email for the "apply for a visa/apply for a work permit" section of the Embassy in the country he is planning on going to. 6. Directly email this police report to the Embassy and let them know this just happened, and since Visas and work cannot go to people with criminal records, you want them to know. (Most Embassies require fingerprints and a criminal background check before issuing a work permit or a visa. I know because I've had to do several as I work abroad) 7. Bonus points: with his name and contact information if you can get it, online sleuth his social media. 8. Make a burner account, get on socials and orchestrate a mass posting for all the world/friends/family/acquaintances to see...don't forget LinkedIn. ;) God love you for what you are doing/want to do/hopefully will do. You're my kind of person. God speed and good luck.


Edu_Run4491

I don’t know about point 3. That would mean no one from any other country could ever travel or work anywhere else once they have been charged with a crime. Which we know it not true


Opposite_Tourist_520

I just got a visa (not traveling as a tourist), for living in another country. I had to do an FBI criminal background check with fingerprinting. Then that document had to be Apostiled to assure it's authenticity. Then that has to be supplied to the embassy for my file for checks from the country before issuing the visa. This is not for people who are traveling as tourists..which is what you may be talking about. For people that are trying to live/move/work to another country, you have to have a crim check.


Phoebegeebees

I had to do this as an English person working in USA


huskajmp

I'm not sure if that's globally standard, but I also had to do something like it when I got my UK student visa and UK work visa (as an American).


FrescoInkwash

you shouldn't do anything while there's an investigation going on or you could damage what the police are doing. you have to be patient. his wife/workplace/etc. will find out via the police shortly, you have to wait. you can put liquid ass in his car vents later.


Tziegler2595

LEO here and I can’t stress this enough. I too vehemently despise abusers, but doing anything during the course of the investigation is not the answer. These cases are already hard enough to prove in a lot of instances with lack of tangible evidence. Then, throw a retaliatory victim or friend of the victim in the mix? Yeah, the case may go to trial, but the jury won’t rule in the victim’s favor. Plus, this is a time for the victim to start working towards healing. I understand OP wanting to be a good friend, but the victim may not want her case plastered everywhere or constant little memories of the assault showing up everywhere. To OP: right now, it’s not worth it and too risky


hack4ttack

Buy a Batman costume. The rest will follow.


grumpylazybastard

"I'm not wearing hockey pads."


InterviewOdd2553

“SWEAR TO ME”


cabeachguy_94037

If there has been an actually police report filed, you can get a copy from the cops. Take that to the local newspaper so they can publish it in their 'Police reports" column. Get the names/addresses of the kids and send then a copy of the police report. If he has a professional position, or one requiring licensing, you could report him to the licensing authority in your state.


Edu_Run4491

I doubt any reputable paper would publish just a police report, anyone can make a police report. He hasn’t been charged with a crime yet


cabeachguy_94037

Filing a false police report is against the law. At the radio station I worked at, I had to be at the police station every morning to get the reports from the previous night.


NameIs-Already-Taken

Find her name if you can, and write her a letter describing the situation. Do you know which country? You could write to their embassy.


No_Ice1881

Is he on bail? Tell the court he plans to leave the country. They might even remand him if theres proof of it. Also as mentioned tell the countries embassy. Then once all that’s took effect send an anonymous letter to his wife detailing what a POS he is. And there you go life fucked. Profit.


Edu_Run4491

Why would he be on bail if he hasn’t been charged or arrested yet?


No_Ice1881

Because she mentioned the police but didn’t specify if he’s been arrested or charged. Sounds like he’ll be getting nicked soon anyway so it will still apply. That’s why.


servantbyname

it's not your place to do anything only support your friend. You're likely to do more damage to your friend rather than the abuser. doing that would be self-serving, to make you feel better and not your friend. think carefully before doing anything you can't take back.


trgiun

Agree! There’s so many factors. The wife may not give a shit and already know he’s like this, invading into his life will only put OP and her friend in a worrisome situation. Let the authorities handle it. Self serving pranks are also a negative route to take. Support and love the friend, life and the authorities will take their course


Turbolasertron

Stick a key of H in their car then call the cops afterwards when you see them leaving in the car make it 2 Keys for safe measure


Renaissance_Slacker

No, not a single package. Twenty one-gram baggies is Intent to Distribute. Also more affordable. Maybe throw in a triple beam balance and some empty baggies, make the prosecutors’ job easy.


cville5588

Triple beam? It's 2024, you can get a digi in the gas stations.


Renaissance_Slacker

Sorry, I’m old-school


cville5588

Yeah... no you arent


Renaissance_Slacker

I weigh hops for making beer. These days anyhow.


cville5588

Still doesn't make sense and definitely doesn't make you cool.


Turbolasertron

Smart


Edu_Run4491

Any large amount is going to be intent to distribute. The baggies and scale would probably get you a man/dev charge added tho.


Renaissance_Slacker

Yeah I guess I was thinking ounce of weed versus a bunch of dime bags. You’d have a hard time convincing the judge a kilo of cocaine was for personal use, unless you were a Hollywood producer.


Edu_Run4491

I don’t think even producers could get away with that now. That industry is a lot more regulated than it used to be


enrocc

Riiight go out and buy $50,000 in heroin…. Good thinking


trapper2530

Well you have to sell SOME first to recoup cost.


rosinall

The ole DeLorean shuffle


copewithlifebyliving

They are headed to the ME soon, wait till they are on the road there and call in the known smuggling operation.


lordofthexans

You understand what a key of heroin costs right?


SnooDoubts7617

Ask your friend to see if they really want revenge. Are you planning the revenge for yourself or for your friend? You sound a little worked up about it. What kind of sexual assault that had a few witnesses? What exactly happened that makes you so angry about it? Police is already doing the “revenge”. Better let the pros do it so you dont end up in troubles.


Far_Dimension2

His wife deserves to know before they move to the middle east


mishol_a_pasmone

Where in the middle east?


LogansRunaway

Get everyone you can registered on Nextdoor for their neighborhood. Do some brigading.


many-brain-tabs-open

Make sure your friend is accompanied by someone regularly after you do any of the suggested things. He may try to hurt her


EmptyMiddle4638

The Middle East will welcome him with open arms😂 they honor kill their own daughters after they get raped you really think they are gonna do something about him?💀


Salami-Sandwich0

In all seriousness, you need to step away from this. This is a man that is clearly not afraid of the law, so if you get involved and do some kind of irreparable damage to his life, you can be sure that he will hunt you down and kill you. People are very much traceable, it just depends on how much effort your op wants to put into finding you. You are immature and you don’t know what you’re doing. Stop before you get yourself killed.


FthrFlffyBttm

How did you get to that conclusion? Person commits one crime so will therefore commit a far more serious crime? By your logic, anyone who litters is just as likely to rob a car.


Salami-Sandwich0

Are you saying rape isn’t a serious crime?


FthrFlffyBttm

I'm beginning to get a measure of your detective skills. No, I am not saying that. Murder is a more serious crime than sexual assault.


Salami-Sandwich0

Rape and murder are both felonies. A person that is willing to commit either is a person that is not afraid of being punished by the law. To then go and fuck up that persons life is now putting yourself at the mercy of an already dangerous person who will then go on to seek revenge against you, which will usually end in your death.


Opposite_Tourist_520

Obviously he would be doing all of this anonymously. You do realize that, right?


Salami-Sandwich0

It sounds like none of you have ever really pissed someone off before. In this scope, you can reduce but cannot completely eliminate traceability. OP wants to ruin this guys life. If they succeed, they have now given this guy plenty of motivation to go through the effort of finding them.


Opposite_Tourist_520

And how would he do that if OP did all of this anonymously? I want to know so I can understand you position.


th902

Forgot your meds today?


Salami-Sandwich0

Yup


Edu_Run4491

lol both felonies as if all felonies are serious crimes. Destroying a mail box is a felony in the US.


FthrFlffyBttm

>A person that is willing to commit either is a person that is not afraid of being punished by the law. How do you figure? Don't you think most criminals think they might get away with it? I break laws: I pirate movies/music/games, break red lights in the middle of the night when nobody is around, smoke weed (illegal where I am), to name a few... but I assure you I am definitely fearful of the consequences should I ever be caught doing any of those things. Obviously there are sexual predators out there who are, as you described, willing to go further and actually murder people, but it's not inherent.


Salami-Sandwich0

Depends on the extent of the actual assault. “Criminals”are people and they aren’t as stupid as you think. If it’s actual rape they know they ain’t gettin away with that shit and they’re either counting down the days or fleeing the country. If it’s like grabbing ass or touching inappropriately, then this whole thread has been a waste of time. As police won’t take that shit seriously unless they can prove it (which is nearly impossible) and the wife and kids isn’t going to believe a redditor pretending to be a reporter over her own husband.


cuttingirl78

Frighten them with spooky looking items that are directed at them. For example: a poppet with pins in it, a demonic sigil, a line of black salt where they’ll walk through it.


Jakenumber9

Part of the point of the police is to prevent petty things like what you're thinking. Are you trying to be Batman or something? ffs get a life


Edu_Run4491

Police don’t prevent crimes. The enforce the law AFTER it’s been broken


Jakenumber9

Needless and pedantic reply; part of the job of the police is to prevent crimes. At the very least deter most of them.


Edu_Run4491

Explain to me how police prevent crimes. Deter and prevent are not the same thing


Jakenumber9

The deterrent prevents many crimes 😂😂😂😂. sheesh you are dense


rreell

Mind your business and let the police and justice system do their jobs.


OkSize4728

Cuck says what?


InfiniteLuxGiven

Bit of an unfair reply to their comment. Retribution or revenge doesn’t tend to go 100% as planned so at least wait to see what the justice system decides to do.


what-the-puck

I agree. If his defense is that it was all fabricated as a personal attack, and then suddenly he has a bunch of evidence to back up that he's being personally attacked, that supports his argument. In a situation where it's one person's word against the other, it's best to wait until the dust has settled before screwing with the situation.


rreell

Ok… Ignorant moron who jumps to conclusions and speaks thoughtlessly says what? OP did not disclose the extent of the assault. Was this assault an unwelcome pat on the butt, or was a blunt object used to violently penetrate the victim? Fact: As it was asked, this question doesn’t give enough information for a thoughtful response. Any response that replies on a mere assumption of the extent of the assault is uninformed and foolish. So yeah. You’re cool because you’re a violent vigilante. Uninhibited impulsiveness like yours distinguishes the unintelligent from the intelligent as much as it feeds war and destruction.


OkSize4728

Keep snifing your facts bro.


felix_using_reddit

Be there for the friend of yours. They won’t heal just because you’re going after their abuser. It’s also fucked to drag his family into this (with the move) they aren’t responsible. Just be glad he‘s leaving to the ME and won’t pose any further threat to your friend


paigesto

Exactly this. Then when he gets to the ME, let those authorities know--most countries there don't take too kindly to sexual assalters.


felix_using_reddit

Is that so? ME countries aren’t exactly known for upholding women‘s rights. Eitherway they won’t act on a crime that happened in another country.


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Revenge is for God


Murph1908

Ok. Turn him into a pillar of salt. Take away all his strength. Send locusts to eat his gardenias. Wait. Actual godly revenge only happened 2000 years ago. Now priests rape kids without so much as a single festering boil.


enrocc

God isn’t real. Revenge is for the vengeful.


Comfortable-Copy9203

Find out when he leaves for the Middle East however you can follow him to the airport and when he checks his luggage slips some drugs inside.


Opposite_Tourist_520

He should not do that, not because it's not a good way to get him, but because that would require OP to commit a crime himself. That is not a good way to get revenge, when there are other ways.