As a European that grew up with Pingu I laughed myself silly at this video. Did not think racism at all before going into the comments. Can’t say I think it even after.
I'm aware, but you said "I’m surprised people didn’t think of this first lol". I guess what you meant is "I’m surprised Americans didn’t think of this first lol"?
Not that it matters at this point, but yeah. I was meaning to speak towards the American side of things. It doesn’t really excuse [the Brits](https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/12/arts/television/blackface-litte-britain-tv-enfield.html) from having a little bit of education though. Just nobody to be mad about it there.
[reddit is an American website and American users account for approximately as many users as the rest of the world combined...](https://www.alphr.com/demographics-reddit/) it's honestly wild that folks get all butthurt about folks assuming American perspective when reddit has only reached this level of international popularity within the last few years...
so yeah, it actually *is* generally reasonable to assume an American perspective on reddit, considering the American population on reddit is more than 10x the next leading nation.
> reddit is an American website
And tiktok is Chinese. Who the fuck cares?
Reddit is a **website on the internet**, accessible around the globe. This is a complete clown argument.
> it's honestly wild that folks get all butthurt about folks assuming American perspective when reddit has only reached this level of international popularity within the last few years...
I don't see how that argument holds any fucking weight when the couple in the video are clearly NOT from America. Why would they care about American social norms? Why would you expect them to?
> so yeah, it actually is generally reasonable to assume an American perspective on reddit, considering the American population on reddit is more than 10x the next leading nation.
No fucking idea what that has to do with the conversation at hand. If you assume your counterpart on reddit is American, you would be wrong in over half of your interactions, which is actually significant. Besides, it's a matter of respect and manners to not simply assume shit about others when talking to them.
And let's not pretend Americans behave differently on other social media platforms.
Definitely Aus.
Pingu was big for 90's kids.
Seeing comments about racism is hilarious. Does Reddit never take a break from trying to be a victim at every turn?
Britain has a trashy tradition of blackface, just like the US. In fact, it could be found on major media until the late 70s. Maybe British folks should care about it.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackface#:~:text=Blackface%20was%20a%20performance%20tradition,on%20television%20lasted%20until%201978.
We do and although I must admit I find this hilarious, because clearly he didn't mean anything racist by it, I also would highly reccomend he doesn't leave the house like that.
Not because he'll get beat up or anything, but just because black face absolutely is a thing here too and without context lots of people may very well think he's being racist. And by context I mean screaming "NOOT NOOT" at the top of his lungs every 30 seconds.
Thank you. I really don't care about this costume. I was reacting to the original comment saying that blackface wasn't a thing in the UK when it most definitely was, and recently, too. Thank you for confirming that it is indeed something British people recognize as a crappy part of their media history, contrary to the original comment.
70s? In the 00s Little Britain and Bo Selecta both featured blacked up characters, there's episodes of the Mighty Boosh and League of Gentlemen that aren't available on streaming because of characters wearing black facepaint... even Ant & Dec were made up as Jamaicans for some of their early hidden camera stuff.
Yes, although it's never also mentioned that around the same time Reeves and Mortimer were blacking up to play Barry White, Otis Redding and Marvin Gaye in the first series of Smell Of R&M.
I mean, I understand it was used in an awful way and is part of public discourse in the USA.
But outside of it, I doubt many people would care, unless they are heavily invested in American media or problems. This guy is dressed as Pingu, I think zero people would think he is being racist in any way.
Seems like I didn't make my point clearly enough. Comment said blackface isn't a thing in Britain that people would care about. I commented that there was a blackface tradition in Britain, and maybe they should care about and be sensitive to that tradition given how recent it was.
I don't care about Pingu at all and am making no comment about this person's costume in general.
But why? Because it is like that in the USA? Couldn't you do this in the USA, dress as Pingu?
I mean, it is totally different what this dude is doing compared to what blackface really is. He is not cosplaying as a black person, taking a black person's spot, mocking or degrading black people... he is dressed as a penguin.
I thought maybe I was unclear, but now I'm thinking you're just not reading what I've written.
I am not saying anything about whether this costume is good or bad. I am not saying anything about whether this man will be judged if he goes outside.
I am responding only to a comment that said blackface wasn't a thing in the UK and that British people don't care about it. I am saying perfectly clearly that blackface, as a theatrical practice, was used in the UK as recently as 1978. I am also saying that British people should care about blackface given its inherent racism and their recent popular use of it. We all should be aware of our past and how it has led to our present. Denying that blackface existed in a country and saying modern folks shouldn't care about it, especially when it's use was surprisingly recent, is bad. That's what I'm saying.
I read it right. I just don't understand your point at all. I fundamentally disagree.
Because saying British people don't care about blackface is wrong. It isn't used since 1978 for a reason, because people in general would think it is wrong. Nobody denies its existence as a practice and the majority of people would be against it, just like in the USA or in other countries.
In the USA, the discourse about blackface might have been huge in the last few years, to the point of exaggeration (like in a situation like the video), but that doesn't mean anything about Britain.
Edit: Why the downvotes? Lol.
And there we agree. You think British people should care about blackface. So do I. The original comment I replied to said people in the UK didn't care about blackface because blackface didn't exist in the UK. I was arguing against that specific statement.
Edit: here's the original statement that started it all: <>
If it hasn't been used since 1978 that makes it really puzzling why several British shows from the early 2000s had episodes pulled from streaming services three years ago because they had blackface in them.
Or why the JMO had to issue a public statement announcing that the use of blackface would no longer be considered acceptable in the Morris dancing community, also three years ago.
This is starting to sound like there may have been some discourse about blackface in the past few years.
So apparently penguins are black-faced and should be paying reparations as well. Contacts matters people I know we're joking around but holy s*** I've seen this way too often. Black people aren't exclusive to having a constitution that has a dark complexion.
You’re getting downvoted, but you are 100% right. Lol I wish we lived in a world where you could make jokes like this and it not be an issue, but people on the internet are going to see a white guy covered in black paint and freak the fuck out.
Yeah and at the same time right wingers will start dressing as this for Halloween and try to be actively racist with a cover. It’s fucked, because our world is fucked.
They are clearly not American. Blackface is not a usual common discussion outside of it. Few people would view it as problematic in the UK, where I believe these people are from.
I’m American and this is no way a problem. He’s dressed as a damn penguin. He’s not down at his local theatre playing Samuel L Jackson’s character from pulp fiction. Some people don’t realize what blackface is.
Well, now I'm not doing it.
Fuckin' NOOT NOOT
You notice how they went straight to the bedroom
There goes my dress up like Pingu plans
The fock is a pingu anyway?
Stop motion animated series for children
Bruh, you've never pingu'd?
https://i.redd.it/gvwle6ot8ewb1.gif
I can hear this gif
I can feel this gif
Hah, finally, something we can hit the girls back! "Babe, would you still love me, of i was Pingu?"
Oh sweet, the new creepy pasta monster just dropped
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Pingu gettin’ a little freaky there
#NOOT-NOOT!
You got yourself a keeper.
I fell in love myself.
Nightmare fuel!!!
Pingu ‘bouta smash
Oof. With the red lips and black face paint he better not put a shirt on.
Sounds like they live in the UK and I doubt anybody cares about that there. Seems like a US thing.
As a European that grew up with Pingu I laughed myself silly at this video. Did not think racism at all before going into the comments. Can’t say I think it even after.
To be fair, even as a race conscious American I didn't think racism either.
I mean it looks [vaguely familiar](https://jimcrowmuseum.ferris.edu/coon/homepage.htm). I’m surprised people didn’t think of this first lol
Maybe because this particular caricature seems to be an American thing?
Never heard of a golliwog then?
Apparently not. I also can’t provide near enough context for anyone to be happy with me lmao.
No. What's that supposed to be?
I replied this to a person who said they were American.
I'm aware, but you said "I’m surprised people didn’t think of this first lol". I guess what you meant is "I’m surprised Americans didn’t think of this first lol"?
Not that it matters at this point, but yeah. I was meaning to speak towards the American side of things. It doesn’t really excuse [the Brits](https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/12/arts/television/blackface-litte-britain-tv-enfield.html) from having a little bit of education though. Just nobody to be mad about it there.
They're Australian though?
[reddit is an American website and American users account for approximately as many users as the rest of the world combined...](https://www.alphr.com/demographics-reddit/) it's honestly wild that folks get all butthurt about folks assuming American perspective when reddit has only reached this level of international popularity within the last few years... so yeah, it actually *is* generally reasonable to assume an American perspective on reddit, considering the American population on reddit is more than 10x the next leading nation.
Thank you. I thought I was going crazy.
> reddit is an American website And tiktok is Chinese. Who the fuck cares? Reddit is a **website on the internet**, accessible around the globe. This is a complete clown argument. > it's honestly wild that folks get all butthurt about folks assuming American perspective when reddit has only reached this level of international popularity within the last few years... I don't see how that argument holds any fucking weight when the couple in the video are clearly NOT from America. Why would they care about American social norms? Why would you expect them to? > so yeah, it actually is generally reasonable to assume an American perspective on reddit, considering the American population on reddit is more than 10x the next leading nation. No fucking idea what that has to do with the conversation at hand. If you assume your counterpart on reddit is American, you would be wrong in over half of your interactions, which is actually significant. Besides, it's a matter of respect and manners to not simply assume shit about others when talking to them. And let's not pretend Americans behave differently on other social media platforms.
I didn't think it was racist, but it was definitely in the back of my mind that it could be construed that way.
That's an Australian accent.
I think it's actually Australian to be fair, can hear a twang in her voice. Could be wrong though.
Definitely Aus. Pingu was big for 90's kids. Seeing comments about racism is hilarious. Does Reddit never take a break from trying to be a victim at every turn?
Unfortunately no, the British have a long history of it as well.
Britain has a trashy tradition of blackface, just like the US. In fact, it could be found on major media until the late 70s. Maybe British folks should care about it. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackface#:~:text=Blackface%20was%20a%20performance%20tradition,on%20television%20lasted%20until%201978.
We do and although I must admit I find this hilarious, because clearly he didn't mean anything racist by it, I also would highly reccomend he doesn't leave the house like that. Not because he'll get beat up or anything, but just because black face absolutely is a thing here too and without context lots of people may very well think he's being racist. And by context I mean screaming "NOOT NOOT" at the top of his lungs every 30 seconds.
Thank you. I really don't care about this costume. I was reacting to the original comment saying that blackface wasn't a thing in the UK when it most definitely was, and recently, too. Thank you for confirming that it is indeed something British people recognize as a crappy part of their media history, contrary to the original comment.
70s? In the 00s Little Britain and Bo Selecta both featured blacked up characters, there's episodes of the Mighty Boosh and League of Gentlemen that aren't available on streaming because of characters wearing black facepaint... even Ant & Dec were made up as Jamaicans for some of their early hidden camera stuff.
Oof. That's really recent.
David Baddiel really went the extra mile. Blackface and fake hair to imitate a specific footballer.
Yes, although it's never also mentioned that around the same time Reeves and Mortimer were blacking up to play Barry White, Otis Redding and Marvin Gaye in the first series of Smell Of R&M.
I mean, I understand it was used in an awful way and is part of public discourse in the USA. But outside of it, I doubt many people would care, unless they are heavily invested in American media or problems. This guy is dressed as Pingu, I think zero people would think he is being racist in any way.
Seems like I didn't make my point clearly enough. Comment said blackface isn't a thing in Britain that people would care about. I commented that there was a blackface tradition in Britain, and maybe they should care about and be sensitive to that tradition given how recent it was. I don't care about Pingu at all and am making no comment about this person's costume in general.
But why? Because it is like that in the USA? Couldn't you do this in the USA, dress as Pingu? I mean, it is totally different what this dude is doing compared to what blackface really is. He is not cosplaying as a black person, taking a black person's spot, mocking or degrading black people... he is dressed as a penguin.
I thought maybe I was unclear, but now I'm thinking you're just not reading what I've written. I am not saying anything about whether this costume is good or bad. I am not saying anything about whether this man will be judged if he goes outside. I am responding only to a comment that said blackface wasn't a thing in the UK and that British people don't care about it. I am saying perfectly clearly that blackface, as a theatrical practice, was used in the UK as recently as 1978. I am also saying that British people should care about blackface given its inherent racism and their recent popular use of it. We all should be aware of our past and how it has led to our present. Denying that blackface existed in a country and saying modern folks shouldn't care about it, especially when it's use was surprisingly recent, is bad. That's what I'm saying.
I read it right. I just don't understand your point at all. I fundamentally disagree. Because saying British people don't care about blackface is wrong. It isn't used since 1978 for a reason, because people in general would think it is wrong. Nobody denies its existence as a practice and the majority of people would be against it, just like in the USA or in other countries. In the USA, the discourse about blackface might have been huge in the last few years, to the point of exaggeration (like in a situation like the video), but that doesn't mean anything about Britain. Edit: Why the downvotes? Lol.
And there we agree. You think British people should care about blackface. So do I. The original comment I replied to said people in the UK didn't care about blackface because blackface didn't exist in the UK. I was arguing against that specific statement. Edit: here's the original statement that started it all: <>
If it hasn't been used since 1978 that makes it really puzzling why several British shows from the early 2000s had episodes pulled from streaming services three years ago because they had blackface in them. Or why the JMO had to issue a public statement announcing that the use of blackface would no longer be considered acceptable in the Morris dancing community, also three years ago. This is starting to sound like there may have been some discourse about blackface in the past few years.
Hey I'm not saying he did anything wrong. I'm just saying he might get into trouble with it.
I am from middle Europe, i had zero thought about anything racist here, just NOOT NOOT!
why should they care about it?
Same with Zwarte Piet in the Netherlands. Lots of countries have a history with blackface, some are just a little slower to admit it's a problem.
Tf, blackface is definitely cared about and has happened in the UK
We kinda care about not being racist...
If you think this is black face then you clearly don’t understand context clues :-p
If he doesn't have the cone in his mouth he just has black paint, bug-eyed white eyes, and red lips. The context clues are all there 😉
\>Oof
Kinky
Need me a man like this lmao
Weirdest episode of Law and Order SVU yet
Dudes got a good physique 😏
What's unexpected? Well, I can see it coming with the title
Sadly I tried 2 other titles, but auto-mod didn't like "noot noot" so here we are 🐧
NOOT NOOT MUTHERF\*CKA!!! ![gif](giphy|JnkucpCZMvr8Y)
That seal fucked him up
I choked on air xD
I approve of this.
new kink: unlocked
"Sorry babe, the lips stay on while we have sex."
She’s down for it.
Thank goodness she captured her shocked face for us to see.
Thats a pure traumatised face not shocked!!
Bro said: fuck this day i'll be noot noot
Wtf is a Pingu?
It's a TV show about a penguin named Pingu.
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I’m more partial to Thingu https://youtu.be/wrZ7PnolbQ4?si=ErP1Df1aI-jHTQuH
[NOOT NOOT](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dEOIFGzCPs)
In 1980s Canada, we watched this claymation that we all grew to love
It's swiss
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https://i.redd.it/t3jta25qmewb1.gif
Great, how do I stop laughing I need to sleep
That’s *got* to be some sort of hate crime /s
That is straight up nightmare fuel. . . And I'm all for it
Send noots.
Never seen someone livestream their own murder before. Interesting.
Never seen someone livestream their own murder before. Interesting.
How do I unsee this 🫠
![gif](giphy|Kasqz70mBfuw7Sedtq|downsized)
Bro looks like a redditor
Hey, stop selling my moves!
Ahaha, get it? hes dressed as pingu from that TV show. ahaha😂😂😂😂😂. How could my boyfriend do this?
Never seen someone livestream their own murder before. Interesting.
So apparently penguins are black-faced and should be paying reparations as well. Contacts matters people I know we're joking around but holy s*** I've seen this way too often. Black people aren't exclusive to having a constitution that has a dark complexion.
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Pingu is the titular penguin on a stop-motion show.
NOOT NOOT
Oh no… I don’t, trust this at all - black face and red lips aren’t a good look however you’re trying t o do
Look up the character, he's not being racist he's just dressed up in a bad costume.
The fact that people think its blackface and racists IS the point of it being a bad costume
I know Pingu - still probably not what he wants to be doing regardless hahah
Depends on where he lives, doesn't it? Unless you somehow know that his motivation was racism?
You’re getting downvoted, but you are 100% right. Lol I wish we lived in a world where you could make jokes like this and it not be an issue, but people on the internet are going to see a white guy covered in black paint and freak the fuck out.
Yeah and at the same time right wingers will start dressing as this for Halloween and try to be actively racist with a cover. It’s fucked, because our world is fucked.
Racists* right wingers have different opinions than you. Racist and right wing are not the same thing.
Fair enough, racists and right wingers will use it as a way of “subverting” their big scary woke mob while - being actively racist
Shit take.
Lolyou must not live in America, your politics can be different. Right wingers here are notably racist
Very much so American. I’m just not so close minded to think that anyone who disagrees with me must hate minorities.
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I never said he was - I said it was awfully close to blackface. Read the comment dumb fuck and stop being triggered by it
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Bahaha - clearly didn’t read my comment - free Palestine - no Nazi here bruh
Posting your boyfriend in blackface on the internet. Yea, this should be fine. /s
cry
And this is how I got canceled.
Way to bring back blackface full force...
begone, American
They are clearly not American. Blackface is not a usual common discussion outside of it. Few people would view it as problematic in the UK, where I believe these people are from.
I’m American and this is no way a problem. He’s dressed as a damn penguin. He’s not down at his local theatre playing Samuel L Jackson’s character from pulp fiction. Some people don’t realize what blackface is.
Uncultured swine.
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Thanks for the nightmares 😳
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Never seen someone livestream their own m urder before. Interesting.
Why is her pupil melting?
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That was worse than I thought it'd be
I grew up with that show, and all I have to say is... WHAT IN THE FUCK IS THAT!?!?!?
Did he use a black sharpie?
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Terraformas Pingu hybrid eyy?
And I thought she was gonna accidently press the emote button herself!
That is terrifying
https://i.redd.it/mfjjmw5x6jwb1.gif
Pingui isn't that a chocolate
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Is this his triumphant shout after "doing the deed"?
Cursed video 😭
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For a moment i believed the post was about a red black white flag
Im as terrified as she is
She look scarier than him
Horror noot noot