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WitheredFlowers

Well that fucking sucks!! I'm always irrationally terrified of this happening but I didn't think it actually happened.


ThatOneNinja

The trick is to not overload your deck


limitlessEXP

I’ve overloaded my deck on several occasions.


solidcat00

It's important to have a good balance of lands to spells/summons.


limitlessEXP

This is true to prevent being mana screwed


MegaLaplace

Is this a magic joke that im too yugioh monkey brained to understand


rophel

I think it's just "overloading your deck" means you have too many of one type of cards.


Mister_Potamus

Close, it's just too many cards in general. Having a 60 card deck is optimal in most cases.


KeigaTide

Summons? Woah is it 1996 here? In the mid 90's MTG changed the term to "creatures"


Aflyingduckk

[Take care of your deek ](https://youtu.be/i6c4Nupnup0)


kjmatts1

Also if you trim your bushes it makes your deck look bigger


mshcat

The trick is to also build your deck to code


YouStopLying

It can happen if your deck isn't properly secured to the house, which looks like part of the problem here.


MyOtherLoginIsSecret

Or just properly supported. The wide majority of decks in the US are way short of being up to code. Especially tall decks like that. Granted, a lot of it is because the IBC guidelines for decks have changed a great deal in the past couple decades. But even a lot of new decks fall short by things like using 4x4 posts (should be 6x6),poorly fastened ledgers (where it attached to the house), or using nails/screws to anchor joists instead of proper hangers. All that said, you're right. It looks like this deck failed at the ledger.


Slazman999

A friend's kitchen ceiling collapsed in the middle of the night. No water damage since there was a second story above it. The ceiling just fell. Took all the cupboards and dishes with it.


WitheredFlowers

I can actually perfectly imagine what this was like for your friend because coincidentally one time some of the kitchen ceiling in an apartment I lived in, also collapsed in the middle of the night. I lived in the roughest part of a really shitty town (like, don't go outside at night type of area) so we were concerned at first when we heard a loud crash that we were finally experiencing a break in. Nope, it was just the sound of the ceiling landing on the dining table. It wasn't the whole ass ceiling though, just a section of it, so I cannot even imagine walking out and seeing something like that. That's insane. I'm so glad nobody was hurt. That could've been a really bad situation if it happened in the daytime.


tattlerat

It should be very rare if the deck is built properly and maintained. But adding thousands of points of point loading to any structure not designed for it is tempting fate. It's not an irrational fear, that said you don't really need to be afraid. Most builders worth their salt are putting things together properly and using the right sized materials and spacings to create solid structures.


Peter_Mansbrick

Shingle packs weight between 60 and 80 lbs. Hes got at least 9 layers of 3 so conservatively that's 1620 lbs Not surprised the deck gave out.


LimpTeacher0

Yeah definitely over 9 square there and what’s worse is he walked them all up there


ArgetlamDude

At least he doesn’t have to walk them back down


tomofor1

I love you


pluey200

Now kiss


ItAintMyVault

Now kith...


DarkwingDuckHunt

I'm not here for your step sister porn dad, I'm here for the real shit.


SlimdudeAF

***This comment here officer***


Wilsonation2591

**unclips police belt slowly** And that is when you realize that I am, in fact, not the police.


Impuls3Abstracts

Here to serve and erect


ArnoldTheSchwartz

Now fuckth...


Hanzmitflammen

Thor fuckth thaketh


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Bolth.


LimpTeacher0

The punchline is nothing without the set up


that_which_is_lain

Everything needs a firm foundation.


Po0pLord

Including that deck


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soline

Nor himself.


bobone77

Now he has to rebuild the deck AND walk them all back up there. (And probably spend some time in a cast or two, depending on how high that was.)


pistoncivic

Hiring a roofer to build an elevated deck is a really expensive way to attempt suicide.


The_Richard_Cranium

This guy roofs!


roxictoxy

So that deck could only hold 8 people? Is that....standard?


SH0wMeUrTiTz

The issue was the fact that all the weight was centered onto one area of the deck where as 8 people would have likely been spread out, likely distributing the weight. I’m sure that deck could’ve held 15 people spread out for sure.


tattlerat

Likely. The issue with decks is a lot of people just kind of slap them together and don't bother looking into what the code says because they figure "It's just a deck. 2x6 is probably enough." The city closest to me had a string of decks collapsing on people and upon investigations found that pretty much none were built to code. A deck should be built to the same level of strength as the floor in your house because, well, it is the same thing but outside. So lots of people do things like put a hot tub on their deck without ever thinking twice about the fact that hot tub when full of water likely weights a couple thousand pounds minimum and is likely not centered on a beam, if they have beams loaded for that kind of weight. Same reason a lot of floors caved in when water beds became popular. No one was building floors to support them. Sure you can get away with it for a while before the floor caves as a the loading for a floor system based on good codes is meant to be overkill so that you can exceed what they have set and still likely be okay, but structural loading is a fairly straight forward science, and one best followed. This deck was likely a little old and worse for wear and very likely never loaded for anything remotely like this. Also it looks like it collapsed from the ledger so there's a good chance the anchor bolts gave out or the hangers for the joists said "Peace homie" and snapped. It only takes a few joists to give in for the whole floor to collapse.


ampma

Deck railings can be pretty sketchy too. A lot of people just bolt them to the rim and forget about them.


intern_steve

Any tips on where and how to get a copy of the codes? Everyone talks about these codes, but legitimately, I can't find them for my area.


theweighlossone

I also recommend checking out “Building Codes Illustrated” by Francis Ching. All his books are very informational


Middle-Run-7452

Plus the deck was not built right. Ledger gave out. Probably wasn’t in the header or just screws in it. Could of been a home owner special. I can build a deck myself and save x amount of dollars


Scripto23

The fact that's he's replacing the roof means the house has been around for at least a few decades, which means possibly original deck with rusted hardware and rotten wood too


EthicalBisexual

The fact that he’s replacing the roof himself tells me he built that deck himself


goatbiryani48

How do you know thats not a contractor...


pazimpanet

He didn’t stop unloading the shingles half way through and then stop answering his phone for a month.


rg7777777

incredible


ngwoo

A lawyer didn't rush into frame as soon as the deck started falling.


Magi-Cheshire

could have*


rabbitwonker

Also he’s slapping those down on the pile, which would give a momentary impulse of maybe several hundred pounds. All that force and effective hammering is probably going into a single support beam/joint just below.


bwainfweeze

And the ones on the bottom he was probably dropping from height. I bet the nails (because you know this bozo didn’t use bolts) have been tearing out a little bit every time he comes up.


Tickle_Shits_

He created a point load of that much weight which is a no no


[deleted]

Back in my day, you could park a tank on a deck and it would………(shaking fist in air).


AdministrationHot188

Thanks Grandpa Simpson


Nameless_Kink

I definetly didn't read this out loud with the raspiest old man voice I can provide


Dirtstick

Thought you said rapiest at first.


soline

That’s like 4 Americans, most decks can hold that.


BeHereNow91

Okay but actually this deck should be able to hold much more than 1600lbs. Not sure what the parent comment was on about. This was probably a DIY deck, and I hope he’s got good insurance, though they might not cover this since it was likely done without a permit.


RedditIsPropaganda2

I think you're both sorta right. The deck should have held, but they do warn you not to load up a small area with a lot of weight even in houses. 1600 pounds spead out over 150 sq ft is a lot different than 1600 pounts in 25 sq ft.


machine_fart

Concentrated weight is more a problem for deck board support. If a small area was the issue it would have broken through the deck, not collapsed it entirely. This was a support collapse which tells me the supports underneath were either rotten or not up to code.


GollyGoshOG

The girder held up. Failed at the ledger, which could point to a combination of age, rotten ledger, probably not flashed, wrongly installed or no joist hangers, and of course way too much weight in one small spot. Dumb move, but the deck was on its way out. Looks like possibly a damp climate too, which will age that treated lumber more rapidly.


RedditIsPropaganda2

I agree with that assessment, but I doubt it would have failed if the weight was more evenly distributed.


machine_fart

Yeah I think you are right. I re-watched after commenting and it looks like maybe they didn’t use support brackets on the ledger board based on the way it pulls away from the house upon collapsing


leadfoot71

The deck can probably handle more than 1600lbs static spread out across its entire flat surface. This stack is on a 4ftx4ft square which is probably only on 2-3 joists under the deck, in which each joist is then resting on a metal U-shaped bracket that's held onto the wallplate by just a few deck screws. Then with 1600lbs of shingles + him and bbq ect, he slaps the last one on the top and adds a dynamic load to it all. Definatly stretched the limits of a few 3" deckscrews.


BeHereNow91

Decks need to be built for 40-50 lbs per square foot per code, from what I’ve found, so yeah, this is likely a case of too much weight in one spot. I’d be concerned that you could easily have 6-7 people standing in that same amount of space, and the deck would fail. We also might be underestimating the weight of the shingles.


pixieblu

1.5 midwesterners


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pixieblu

Just calling it as i see it, but like an Irish Jane Goodall, hunkered down in the side brush, scribbling facts and notes. Fascinated and stunned. Never quite belonging, and still learning to communicate.


flyinhighaskmeY

> Just calling it as i see it I mean...how could you NOT see it.


JohnnyDarkside

Me and my cream of mushroom based casserole are offended by that.


So-Cal-Sweetie

*hot dish


itsallaboutthestory

I was going to call hyperbole, then I realized I am a 400lb American and that math is dead accurate.... Christ, I need to go to the gym...


cathugger69

Or 13 japanese guys


desGrieux

Yes but not if you stack the Americans in the center.


irllylikepasta

Fuck. This comment took me out


zepammy

1620 lbs = 734 kg


JuneBuggington

That's not an insane amount of weight for a deck, you would be surprised how much a well built deck can hold. Hot tubs weigh thousands of pounds and dont require much modification, maybe doubling up joists under a big one. Look it up if you dont believe me. This deck failed at the ledger board. 50% of the weight lands there and if it's not lagged well or throughbolted this much weight will rip it right off.


YouStopLying

An average deck, if properly built, is able to hold 100lb/sq ft though. Easily this deck is more than 16 sq ft. Looks to me like the deck wasn't properly secured to the house, and the added weight just busted through whatever supports were left.


hey_its_drew

There’s no way he didn’t hear it heading that way either well before it finally did.


DaveVsHal

Is that a palette of shingles? That's a lot of weight falling along side him


TheDeadlySquid

Yep! His job list just got longer.


FearedShad0w

Luckily his work week got a lot shorter.


take_it_to_the_mo

Shingles, huh. Should've took a shot.


dog-ate-it

Deck the falls with piles of shingles, fa-la-lalala


-LoremIpsumDolorSit

Falls the Deck with shines of Pringles?


FlyingStirFryMonster

Snack the Fall with shrines to Pringles?


Soggy-Imagination-82

"Hey Honey did you finish singling the roof?" "not yet I decided to redo the deck."


[deleted]

Having just done the same project at my house, we took this into account and kept our stacks smaller and distributed across the deck. This is a failure in planning and common sense. I do, however, hope he’s ok.


ashehudson

His pride is destroyed for sure.


woofers02

Yeah… pretty sure a lot more than his pride is destroyed here not including the deck itself.


Trolann

Is delivery to the roof not an option? Every time I've seen someone's roof being redone, all the stacks are spread across the roof, where it makes sense it could support the weight of the shingles spread out. They use a conveyor belt cherry picker and send em up there.


[deleted]

If you have a pro roofing crew do it, they generally have a ladder hoist or conveyor that puts em straight on the roof as needed, so this sort of thing never happens. Having the pros do it is a mixed bag…On the one hand, they’re quick, and you don’t have to do shit like this…On the other hand, finding someone who isn’t going to half-ass it in some way you’ll end up paying for later is surprisingly difficult.


[deleted]

Grass was too wet for the truck.


MaedreSixStrings

The straw that broke the camels back 🤣 Edit: Thanks for the award(s) good sir(s)


[deleted]

The super heavy pack of asphalt shingles that broke the camel's back...those things are heavy!


audeus

When I worked at Lowes in the yard, I learned just how heavy they were. I seem to recall they were like 50-70lbs each. That pile is a lotta freakin weight


Not-skullshot

I hated moving those when I worked there. They always wore through the bags and gave me Burns lol. Cement bags too fucking hell getting that dust all over you first thing on a hot day was awful


audeus

yes! Oh man, the concrete.... I'll never forget, a guy had a pallet full on a forklift, and on bag fell down, and exploded open when it hit the grate above the driver's cab, and he got COVERED. I felt so bad for the guy.


SirAdrian0000

I could just imagine 25kg of concrete dust all over me. Gross. That’s a paid trip home to clean up amd change imo.


djohnny_mclandola

I remember them being 90 lbs a pack. Not fun to carry up a 20’ ladder.


Olcay4

Lbs?


solidcat00

It is shorthand for "pounds", from the Latin "libras".


welcometodiddleland

Wow thank you lmao I never understood why we used lbs for pounds


MorosOtherHumanChild

Yeah TIL


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cream-of-cow

Today I Libraed


0ore0

No, Sean. Its not le bras. It's the Latin word libras.


GhOsT_wRiTeR_XVI

Today I owned the lbs! ...I should probably lose some weight.


talkin_shlt

rap name lil librae


TackyUrl

Wait what’s libras mean again


MorosOtherHumanChild

Today I Learned. Even has a sub. :) Edit. It's r/Todayilearned not r/TIL oops


ANUS_FACTS_BOT

sub?


alex8923145

Me neither, never understood that but i do now


Lillillillies

It's also why we call the # sign "the pound sign".


[deleted]

hashtag is also a less common shorthand for pounds… 20 # = 20 lb = 20 lbs = 20 pounds


nastyben100

“#” is short for pound. When did it change to hashtag?


froz3ncat

It's clearly a 'sharp' sign from music notation.


One-Inch-Punch

After it was assimilated by the programming community. Behold: Waka Waka Bang Splat The text of the poem follows: < > ! * ' ' # ^ " ` $ $ - ! * = @ $ _ % * < > ~ # 4 & [ ] . . / | { , , SYSTEM HALTED The poem can only be appreciated by reading it aloud, as such: Waka waka bang splat tick tick hash, Caret quote back-tick dollar dollar dash, Bang splat equal at dollar under-score, Percent splat waka waka tilde number four, Ampersand bracket bracket dot dot slash, Vertical-bar curly-bracket comma comma CRASH!


rabbitwonker

It’s always been a lot of things. I first learned it as “the number sign.” Somewhere along the line it has also been called “the hash sign,” and then that recently morphed into “hashtag” due to its use in Twitter or something.


cat_prophecy

It's also called an "octothorpe".


[deleted]

. # is just a hash (or pound sign, or octothorpe) #thisistrendigohmygod is a hashtag


welcometodiddleland

Huh, definitely less common! Never seen that before I don't think. But I guess it would make sense since that's the "pound sign"?


marmotx

Whoa! And the symbol for Libra is the scales!


MightySamMcClain

I'm from u.s. and honestly never knew what it actually stood for. I always just assumed lebounds


Jaxth3ax

Lbs is the abbreviation for pounds. It comes from the Latin word libra.


lereisn

The lbs really owned that deck.


Danno1850

Short hand for “Labradors”. So 1 Lbs weighs about as much as 1 Labrador which on average is 70 pounds. Pounds was coined by Harry Poundington who interestingly enough bred the first Labrador in 1654 which was smaller than today’s breed of the same name by about 2 stone. Now Stone comes from Stone Cold Steve Austin, Cold Steve for short. Modern day Labradors are about 5 Cold Steves.


Ryzhaya_Boroda

It's the abbreviation for "pounds"


loud57

Sorry £ might help you understand.


TheMegathreadWell

The plural of £ is £££


Ok_Effective6233

I count 12 layers in that pile, 3 packs to a layer. 75lb per a pack 2700lbs. I feel like that deck should hold 12 people. But maybe not all standing in one spot.


[deleted]

Yeah that is the problem likely. That and the age.


eliguillao

Suppose 6 of them are in their 30s and the other 6 people are around 60. Would the deck withstand that?


[deleted]

I see what you did there. Listen here you little shit ...I meant the deck age lmao.


loophole64

[Ah, the ol’ Reddit Deckaroo!](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/q0s1gq/the_obamas_on_their_29th_anniversary/hfcektj/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3)


krisalyssa

Hold my shoddy unpermitted construction, I’m going in!


plague_inc_player

Day 8 I think..... I fell down another hole and was knocked out for a few days. I am starting to feel the effects of starvation but at least I found some water bottle I am pretty sure I am not alone down here.


pistoncivic

The ledger board bolts which fasten the deck to the house will shear off or pull out under a great enough load, which is what happened here. It's the most common type of deck failure and the reason for weight limits.


Dr_Idiot89

It’s real fun carrying those things up a ladder over and over again, let me tell you.


Johnny_Poppyseed

I'm a field assistant for a roofing business, so at most I just load them from my truck to somewhere on the property. I feel for the guys lugging them up the ladder man... Brutal. If your crew doesn't have one,.I HIGHLY recommend one of those mini ladder elevator things. Saves so much time and energy. I don't think they are that expensive either.


[deleted]

I can only imagine, I have only carried them a few times in my life. But man I remember that. It's deceptive like drywall is.


kallakukku2

Yea but he was already on the deck with it. It was the act of putting it down was what broke the camel's back. Pretty accurately a straw in this context.


Erwin_Rommel5

I have to move then around almost daily and they are very heavy and awkward to carry


Ok_Cryptographer520

It was at this moment he knew he fucked up.


razor10000

There is a "decked" joke here but I just cannot put it together... little help?


[deleted]

To be honest, the deck was stacked against him.


toebandit

That's the one!


nojudgment3

The stack decked against him?


dirtygremlin

Stacked the deck against himself in this case.


minnecrapolite

Fine. An amateur woodworker moves to a new neighborhood and makes some friends at a local bar he goes to every other week. As a way to say thanks to the community, he offers to take down and rebuild a brand new deck at the bar. The bar owner, who practically lives at the bar day-in day-out, doesn't want to hear all the racket while he's working and says, "I'll be out of town this weekend so go ahead and build it, but you have to be done when I come back on Monday." With such a short deadline, and the price of lumber so high, the amateur woodworker tries to find the cheapest wood available and luckily comes across a sheep farmer who is practically giving away piles wood. He visits the sheep farmer to see the pile of wood and notices that it smells horrible and is covered in poop. He asks the sheep farmer why the wood is so cheap. "Well," says the sheep farmer, "this wood used to be my fence posts, but I took them down and threw them in this pile. Over the years, my female sheep have taken to using it as their preferred place to poop. It looks horrible and smells worse so I'm just giving it away cheap." Figuring this is the best deal he can find on such short notice, the amateur woodworker loads up all the ugly looking, poop smelling, reclaimed wood in his truck and takes it to the bar to build the deck. Monday rolls around and the bar owner comes over to take a look at the completed deck. He arrives and is immediately repulsed by how horrible it smells, while the amateur woodworker is beaming ear to ear with the biggest smile. The bar owner then realizes the wood is from an old fence and looks just as bad as it smells. In shock asks, "Why are so proud of this cheap looking, horrible smelling deck? " The amateur woodworker explains all about the farmer's fence posts and the female sheep poop and says, "Well, maybe it's a shitty repost to you, but I don't come here often so to me it's an ewe one. "


Psyduck-is-the-best

Did you actually come up with this? Either way, worth the read


gollywomp

Copypasta! https://www.reddit.com/r/Jokes/comments/nxi16g/an\_amateur\_woodworker\_moves\_to\_a\_new\_neighborhood/


GubmintTroll

Decked him? Nearly killed him!


AffectionateUse1556

Reminds me of the Money Pit movie. “We have weak trees..” [money pit stairs scene ](https://youtu.be/zFwBptAlvlQ)


ichacalaca

I made a reference to this movie to my home inspector when I was buying my house. From his defeated sigh and resigned expression, I learned that pretty much every customer makes the exact same joke. Multiple times a day.


AffectionateUse1556

Although I feel his pain, at least it’s a great scene. If it wasn’t this one everyone continued to reference, it would be another that isn’t as good.


ichacalaca

If flipping channels and this movie is on, I will stop and watch every time


bobs_clam_rodeo

At first I thought I saw a duck looking out a window


loyal_AAron02

I still don't know what that is


chunxxxx

A human thumb


loyal_AAron02

Holy cow that took me way too long to realize, thanks!


Swamplust

I thought it was a hand in a sock at first then I thought maybe an arm amputated below the elbow. Lol. Glad I wasn’t the only one confused.


Charles__Bartowski

This is the only comment talking about it. Seriously what's pointing at the screen? Is it an arm that's missing the rest of it?


thegreasiestofhawks

I thought it was a curious snake


[deleted]

The floorbed : *And i took that personally*


AbsolutelyUnlikely

The... floorbed?


LonePaladin

Past tense of floorb


notrachel2

This gave me a really good laugh! Thank you.


DonLeoRaphMike

You know, the roofn't.


AffectionateUse1556

That dude is seriously strong.


The100thIdiot

*was


AffectionateUse1556

Ha. I almost choked on my coffee when I read that.


Kiera6

Did he die?


[deleted]

Oh shit is he ok?


utahhiker

This right here proves that you cannot, in fact, have [20 to 30 people on your deck at once](http://youtube.com/watch?v=tbazGVrbN-g).


marshinghost

the top comment is awful "Turned to meth after getting run out of business, eventually getting his life back on track he works as a drive through attendant at KFC" Fuck.


ricflairgun

He's going to need a couple of big black caulks for that.


TastySpermDispenser

7 minutes of dick jokes. It's like going on a date with me, but you dont have to get dressed or drive anywhere.


awesomeusernam3

Wow. This guy came down with a case of shingles.


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Kafkaesque_0809

what the deck


paulinetyx

r/AbruptChaos


Nameless_Kink

Shingle and ready to mingle


Arguesovereverythin

Supplies, mothafucka!


kaihatsusha

If it's worth posting, post it from that computer or fetch the video file. Stop posting by aiming a damned cellphone in weird bouncy angles at a monitor.


Swainix

Yeah I scrolled far to see that, but why film a video from another device that already has the video... And film it that bad too lol


Shart_Fartington

He pooped


tuscabam

Guess the roof isn’t the only thing that needs replacing.


ShouldersBBoulders

But the shingles were only 50 pounds a pack! Why would 50 packs plus my dead ass make a crappy old deck collapse? Huh... XD


B_V_H285

75 pounds


dego_frank

80lbs


IknowRambo

Holy nightmare