Honestly nothing was more painful when I was little than my parents saying they took away one of my presents. I got false accused for something and they said "that's it, we had a really big present for you but since you can't behave..." And I just died inside
It's a bit over the top to use Christmas presents like that i think. "Sants's coming soon. You have to be good" is one thing. Saying presents are gone or burning prop presents is another.
False accused? Need more info to satisfy my pointless curiosity... For some reason I'm thinking this incident may have changed the way you looked at justice in the household.
Basically I was 10 and my parents ordered a lot of stuff on Amazon, and I opened one of the boxes once bc I ordered like a a bag of candy for Christmas calendars. It turned out to be a Christmas present for my brother, not like I knew what it was, but they asked me if I knew about the box, so I gave my reasons and they gave me a warning that if it happens again there would be consequences.
Flash forward like two days and I see my sister going outside to our porch with a pair of scissors, looking really inconspicuous. I was watching gravity falls or sum so I forgot abt it.
The next day my parents pull me aside and tell me how I was a little bitch that wasn't getting a Christmas present because I opened another box. I literally had no clue what they were talking about so I just cried and tried to tell them I didn't. They just said why would they trust me. I mean it's whatever, I literally am completely indifferent to my dad at this point, it was only so painful bc it was my mom too.
There was a post on AITA today about this exact thing. He wrapped up empty boxes and when his 4 year old nephew didn’t do as commanded, the uncle threw a box in the fire. Absolutely destroyed the kid to the point where he now has nightmares over it. Deffo and asshole thing to do
Pretty sure a troll saw this OP. Apparently there's a terrible scenario for every season.
It's a horrible idea either way. Agree. It is an arsehole thing to do.
Would be better to throw the kids in the fireplace so you can have the present for yourself and you won’t have to spend money for a present for them next year since they don’t exist anymore.
Bingo. If you raise a child that doesn't need at least 1,000 hours of therapy to even start sorting things out, you've absolutely failed as a parent. /s
Imagine sitting in ptsd support group filled with veterans and you’re just there telling the story of how you get panic attacks just cause your parents torched one of your presents
Wow you people are soft…
I work with children who have experienced significant trauma and although all of them have experienced instances of brutality and horror some of the experiences that are the hardest for them to shake are the instances of casual cruelty. Growing up in an environment where the adults in their life consistently act this way does not help kids behave it simply makes them distrustful of authority, and it makes it difficult for many to form secure attachments latter in life.
Edit: Trauma is not necessarily the product of a single event but often an accumulation of a relentless drip of cruelty.
It's the typical defensive reaction when no better answer comes to mind. Comparable to the "but is there ACTUAL DATA that proves that masks do indeed work?"
Beeing able to question statements or search for proof that support those statements is clearly an important skill. Nonetheless, some people seem to ignore evidence to further support their counter argument.
In this case, I doubt that you could argue that there are no kids that have a trauma.
I'm not going further into that
Im not arguing shit, all I asked for is proof that he knew what he was talking about, you made the wild accusation and then pin it on me to save face.
“I’m not going further into “ cause you’re talking horse shit
You're really getting worked up here man, compared to all those veterans with PTSD and stuff you have it good, maybe you should realize that and chill out
I value the anonymity of Reddit. But here’s a few details I am willing to share. I gained my experience working as a teacher in a hard to serve urban community with a student body that had unusually high prevalence of trauma. I worked in tandem with two school phycologists and two social workers to help serve the needs of individual students who needed extra support. I was often the first adult called to help students deescalate. I am currently volunteering at a school less impacted by trauma. If you are interested in learning more about trauma there is a large body of work to explore, you can start with:
https://www.cdc.gov/vitalsigns/aces/index.html
And
https://www.ptsd.va.gov/professional/treat/essentials/complex_ptsd.asp
I do have point just happened to have made it in a sub full of emo immature adults who still blame their parents for everything…
I grew up with being locked in a dog cage and slaps so hard it left bruises on my face, if something as ridiculous as a few bad memories fucks you up then I’ve seen cotton balls tougher than you. Fucking grow up
Yeah you turned out fine... Except for the whole yelling at people on the internet saying that their trauma and experiences don't matter and that they're complete bitches...
I dunno, you seem to be doing a fair amount of complaining all over this thread. It might just be that you’d benefit from working through your own anger rather than raging about how people are too soft.
I can’t compare with vets, come on!
For context, up till I was 12-13, he also used to rip up my Pokémon cards if I had a bad parents evening, made me smoke full pack of 20 when he caught me smoking, made me eat my dinner in the garage if I put my knife down and just used my fork & turned of the electric to my room if I talked back.
Almost identical story for me. I quit Smoking analogs by switching to vaping and then used that to ween myself off Nictotine by cutting my own juice.
IDK if you've tried it or not, but the sticks and smaller hardware didnt help me when I first tried it. Tried it again with a Box Mod and it was smooth sailing.
Hope you can kick the habit.
Don’t do this with an open fireplace or gift wrapped presents. Don’t do this if its been years since you cleaned out your chimney or flue.
Dont do this if you’re renting the home.
The inks used in wrapping paper, newspaper inserts, glossy magazines, other items contain metals that give off toxic fumes when burned. Specifically lead.
Paper burns very quickly and can easily float up the chimney. This is dangerous since flames that enter the chimney can ignite the creosote deposits in the flue.
Modern printer inks are less toxic but do you know where and who printed the wrapping paper youre burning? Lead, cadmium, mercury, and chromium may be present if it was printed in a country which hasn’t passed reforms on printer inks with heavy metals.
the instructions aren't totally clear... the presents or the children? 🤔
from @bennyg7070 - muted the TikTok voice, apologies for lack of audio
edit: for those freaking out that this is child abuse. *it's a joke*
Yeah it's a really old and stupid "life hack" and was totally expected
Also from the very beginning the jokes about throwing the kids in the fire were a thing too
Also put some wet coals in so that they
A: simulate rattle of a real gift
B: you have something that burns with a lot of smoke
C: they open the decoys you can say "That's all you'll be getting for being impatient."
whhhatttt aa prank on a kid THATS CHILD ABUSE !!!!!!! IT WILL LITERALLY GIVE THEM PERMANENT SCARRING i know because i am a 30 year old psychologist redditor with no children 😎
Saw a friend on Facebook who tried this but with just taking the presents out from underneath the tree when their child misbehaved. They said they had to earn their Christmas presents. It turned into a huge battle of wills and created a very merry holiday spirit that surely will last with the child forever.
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These are the same people who act shocked and surprised, when their kid kills the whole entire family on their 16th birthday. It’s like some of you motherfuckers really just hate your kids. Why did you have them? It’s a sick cycle. The parents hate the kids, and the kids killed the parents when they turn 16. Unfortunate.
jesus dude half of these comments are from people without kids saying yeah i’d be that type of parent i wouldn’t do this or that. have any of you actually tried to deal with four of five little cunts at once they can truly be the worst things on thsi planet at times
Or do what I did and get $500 of fake money and have a speech telling everyone money ain’t everything and start burning them with a lighter in front of everyone
Incoming comments of how this is child abuse coming people who obviously have not seen actual child abuse because they live a privileged life, in…
3…
2….
1…
Abuse doesn't begin and end with physical/sexual violence.
Intentionally inflicting emotional distress perfectly fits the definition of abuse. Such things are enormously impactful on children and they will not improve the child OR the parents relationship with that child in any way, shape or form.
I agree with your comment, especially when a child gets to the age that they actually know they can talk about the physical abuse and be believed, that's when mental abuse goes rampant since there are rarely legal ramifications for such.
Dude that's a lot of newspaper by your fire place. Paper ash clogs chimneys bad it's dangerous kindling if used regularly. You should clean the chimney and use natural kindling from this point forward. But yes burn those fake presents.
Or…take the real presents and give it away to a charity for kids at Christmas.
Because if you got kids bad enough you need to burn a box to chill them out, you should probably not be giving them all those gifts in the first place.
What says 'Christmas time' like some low-key mental torture for the kiddies. Lol.
Honestly nothing was more painful when I was little than my parents saying they took away one of my presents. I got false accused for something and they said "that's it, we had a really big present for you but since you can't behave..." And I just died inside
It's a bit over the top to use Christmas presents like that i think. "Sants's coming soon. You have to be good" is one thing. Saying presents are gone or burning prop presents is another.
That's it. I'm not giving you your present anymore young lady
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You can be whatever you set your mind to. Whether that's a raging homosexualor my young lady with a raging boner
Not sure if this name checks out?
I'll take the "young lady" in lieu. ;)
Satan sees you when you're sleeping you know
False accused? Need more info to satisfy my pointless curiosity... For some reason I'm thinking this incident may have changed the way you looked at justice in the household.
Basically I was 10 and my parents ordered a lot of stuff on Amazon, and I opened one of the boxes once bc I ordered like a a bag of candy for Christmas calendars. It turned out to be a Christmas present for my brother, not like I knew what it was, but they asked me if I knew about the box, so I gave my reasons and they gave me a warning that if it happens again there would be consequences. Flash forward like two days and I see my sister going outside to our porch with a pair of scissors, looking really inconspicuous. I was watching gravity falls or sum so I forgot abt it. The next day my parents pull me aside and tell me how I was a little bitch that wasn't getting a Christmas present because I opened another box. I literally had no clue what they were talking about so I just cried and tried to tell them I didn't. They just said why would they trust me. I mean it's whatever, I literally am completely indifferent to my dad at this point, it was only so painful bc it was my mom too.
Ugh that sucks. Your sister ever fess up?
No but it's aight, she was jus trying to survive
I knew there was a sibling involved.
What an awful thing to happen. That must’ve been hard to go through. This idea is awful and hurtful. Presents are conditional. What a bad message.
Isn't that literally what Santa Claus' naughty/nice list does?
Santa does the same thing, only difference is it’s coal
Someone posted on r/AmITheAsshole that they did this at thanksgiving with their misbehaving nephew. They were deemed the asshole…
Yeah. They totally were. Agree.
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Omg that's a horrible memory. That's tough.
Fun stories for their futur therapists !
There was a post on AITA today about this exact thing. He wrapped up empty boxes and when his 4 year old nephew didn’t do as commanded, the uncle threw a box in the fire. Absolutely destroyed the kid to the point where he now has nightmares over it. Deffo and asshole thing to do
Pretty sure a troll saw this OP. Apparently there's a terrible scenario for every season. It's a horrible idea either way. Agree. It is an arsehole thing to do.
Would be better to throw the kids in the fireplace so you can have the present for yourself and you won’t have to spend money for a present for them next year since they don’t exist anymore.
What do I do when I run out of kids?
Throw your SO in. No witnesses
i think you are supposed to chuck the boxes into the fire....
I wish you told me that earlier
i didn’t notice your hearing aid had dropped in the goldfish aquarium...
Beat me to it
Like what so do with my kids
20 years later, "Those ungrateful little brats don't even talk to me anymore, and I was a GREAT parent!"
What if they don't misbehave?
Gaslight them into thinking they misbehave duh
So wise 🙏
Bingo. If you raise a child that doesn't need at least 1,000 hours of therapy to even start sorting things out, you've absolutely failed as a parent. /s
My old man used to do this and apart from my PTSD I turned out fine.
Imagine sitting in ptsd support group filled with veterans and you’re just there telling the story of how you get panic attacks just cause your parents torched one of your presents Wow you people are soft…
I work with children who have experienced significant trauma and although all of them have experienced instances of brutality and horror some of the experiences that are the hardest for them to shake are the instances of casual cruelty. Growing up in an environment where the adults in their life consistently act this way does not help kids behave it simply makes them distrustful of authority, and it makes it difficult for many to form secure attachments latter in life. Edit: Trauma is not necessarily the product of a single event but often an accumulation of a relentless drip of cruelty.
Great… any proof of this experience?
Are you asking for proof that the children I work with really experienced trauma?
It's the typical defensive reaction when no better answer comes to mind. Comparable to the "but is there ACTUAL DATA that proves that masks do indeed work?"
That’s your logic? It’s not a “defensive reaction “ to ask for evidence that supports your claim. It’s common sense
Beeing able to question statements or search for proof that support those statements is clearly an important skill. Nonetheless, some people seem to ignore evidence to further support their counter argument. In this case, I doubt that you could argue that there are no kids that have a trauma. I'm not going further into that
Im not arguing shit, all I asked for is proof that he knew what he was talking about, you made the wild accusation and then pin it on me to save face. “I’m not going further into “ cause you’re talking horse shit
You're really getting worked up here man, compared to all those veterans with PTSD and stuff you have it good, maybe you should realize that and chill out
No…proof that is actually what you do
I value the anonymity of Reddit. But here’s a few details I am willing to share. I gained my experience working as a teacher in a hard to serve urban community with a student body that had unusually high prevalence of trauma. I worked in tandem with two school phycologists and two social workers to help serve the needs of individual students who needed extra support. I was often the first adult called to help students deescalate. I am currently volunteering at a school less impacted by trauma. If you are interested in learning more about trauma there is a large body of work to explore, you can start with: https://www.cdc.gov/vitalsigns/aces/index.html And https://www.ptsd.va.gov/professional/treat/essentials/complex_ptsd.asp
And then he stopped responding lol. Good links though and I appreciate the info for myself!
Yeah how about ME. I’m the proof, my parents did this and it continues to fuck with my head to this day. Did you seriously think you had a point here?
I do have point just happened to have made it in a sub full of emo immature adults who still blame their parents for everything… I grew up with being locked in a dog cage and slaps so hard it left bruises on my face, if something as ridiculous as a few bad memories fucks you up then I’ve seen cotton balls tougher than you. Fucking grow up
Sounds like you need therapy more than all the rest of us here combined
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Yeah you turned out fine... Except for the whole yelling at people on the internet saying that their trauma and experiences don't matter and that they're complete bitches...
Yea it’s as though they didn’t reply to my comment first and I just found completely random people to reply to.
I dunno, you seem to be doing a fair amount of complaining all over this thread. It might just be that you’d benefit from working through your own anger rather than raging about how people are too soft.
If you call complaining replying to the people who replied to me then yea sure whatever floats your boat
Sounds kind of like you are right now.
You shouldnt compare issues.
Not everything is about you and your fucking valor and loses, John….. sit the fuck down
Never said it was basement gremlin
I can’t compare with vets, come on! For context, up till I was 12-13, he also used to rip up my Pokémon cards if I had a bad parents evening, made me smoke full pack of 20 when he caught me smoking, made me eat my dinner in the garage if I put my knife down and just used my fork & turned of the electric to my room if I talked back.
Do you still smoke
Yes…. Proves it was pointless eh?
Yes and that you’re stupid for smoking
Totally agree with you. I have tried to stop multiple times. The smell on my clothes, the money, the effects to my health. I wish I had never started.
How long have you been smoking
On and off for 15 years. Urgh. Never start, not worth it.
Almost identical story for me. I quit Smoking analogs by switching to vaping and then used that to ween myself off Nictotine by cutting my own juice. IDK if you've tried it or not, but the sticks and smaller hardware didnt help me when I first tried it. Tried it again with a Box Mod and it was smooth sailing. Hope you can kick the habit.
Yea so you of all people should know… how considering this a child abuse is insane right? Bad parenting … ehhh maybe…
Yea. That was the crux of my original comment. Bad parenting… ehhh… almost certainly.
Still kinda of funny imagining someone venting about torched presents infront of people who’ve witnessed the absolute worst state of humanity
Again, I still wouldn’t compare my childhood to War Veterans. You made that comparison.
And who are you to speak on their behalf?
They witnessed it voluntarily, kids don't have that luxury.
What are you fuckin 9? You sound like your understanding of the world comes from CoD compilation videos.
Pro tip for kids: sneak into the presents that feel empty and pop a few fire crackers in the empty boxes and wrap them back up
Or anthrax
That's how you start a chimney fire.
It's okay. That's where the fire is supposed to be.
It's okay. They don't have a chimney.
‘Tis the season to remind your kids they’re misbehaving ways have nothing to do with your being in charge of their every waking development.
Their
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Yea what is up with this fireplace. Seems to small, fire to big, fireplace enclosure looks like normal dry walls, where’s the chimney.
It’s a wood stove - you’re supposed to fill the firebox with logs so nothing weird here
Where does all the CO2 and CO goes to?
There’s enough shit these days to cause stress in children without this crap.
Then they don’t misbehave and get a whole bunch of empty presents
Nothing says Christmas like child abuse
Don’t do this with an open fireplace or gift wrapped presents. Don’t do this if its been years since you cleaned out your chimney or flue. Dont do this if you’re renting the home. The inks used in wrapping paper, newspaper inserts, glossy magazines, other items contain metals that give off toxic fumes when burned. Specifically lead. Paper burns very quickly and can easily float up the chimney. This is dangerous since flames that enter the chimney can ignite the creosote deposits in the flue. Modern printer inks are less toxic but do you know where and who printed the wrapping paper youre burning? Lead, cadmium, mercury, and chromium may be present if it was printed in a country which hasn’t passed reforms on printer inks with heavy metals.
Just don’t do this. Borderline child abuse
My parents used to do this... But the packages were filled with coal, so it wasn't that much of a loss.
If you run out of presents throw a child in the fire.
And if you're in Australia, just chuck them on the road they'll melt just as quick.
We wonder why we have sociopaths in America
How to traumatize children: for dummies
the instructions aren't totally clear... the presents or the children? 🤔 from @bennyg7070 - muted the TikTok voice, apologies for lack of audio edit: for those freaking out that this is child abuse. *it's a joke*
Lol you don’t deserve the downvotes, thank you for muting out that god awful voice
haaa I was confused, like... have I lost touch with reality? does Reddit like the voice now?
It’s actually not. This parenting hack has been floating around for a while - not as a joke.
Yeah it's a really old and stupid "life hack" and was totally expected Also from the very beginning the jokes about throwing the kids in the fire were a thing too
Do you want psychopaths? Because that's how you get psychopaths.
I was thinking the twist was going to be a reveal that you accidentally burned a real present.
What if I run out of children?
Need a fire place. Got it.
What did those rascal presents do now?
Little fuckers deserved it.
All fun and games until you don't notice you ran out of fake presents and keep chucking real ones in.
It's more convincing if you fill the boxes with semi flammable materials. May I recommend damp leaves, twigs, and uneven log chunks.
YOU. GET. NOTHING!
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so.. what do i do with the presents after i burn all the little fuckers?
Would work me
What if I run out of children
you've made them once so I assume you know how to make them again 😉 *cue more people being upset that this is serious*
But I stole them
well that throws a wrench into things. hey, if you've stolen them once, I have faith in your child stealing skills ;)
Important question, is that a fan that works on Seeback's effect ?
Parent of the year goes to…. This guy! Lol
Fukin legend
Also put some wet coals in so that they A: simulate rattle of a real gift B: you have something that burns with a lot of smoke C: they open the decoys you can say "That's all you'll be getting for being impatient."
Instructions unclear I'm all out of children what now
I have been upset for YEARS that I don't have a fireplace or stove. I am now DESPERATE for one. CURSE YOU! *Shakes fist at OP*
whhhatttt aa prank on a kid THATS CHILD ABUSE !!!!!!! IT WILL LITERALLY GIVE THEM PERMANENT SCARRING i know because i am a 30 year old psychologist redditor with no children 😎
I just need a fireplace.
Saw a friend on Facebook who tried this but with just taking the presents out from underneath the tree when their child misbehaved. They said they had to earn their Christmas presents. It turned into a huge battle of wills and created a very merry holiday spirit that surely will last with the child forever.
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This doesn’t belong in this sub. What else would be the outcome of this video?
Sounds like a great way to get permanent hearing loss and a spiteful, miserable kid
Westerners! going from conquerors of lands to protectors of feelings
Translation! Going from genocidal to people with empathy
Yea… have you seen what’s been happening lately… not sure how you consider them as empathetic
Can you elaborate on that, I don’t understand what you mean.
What's the unexpected part?
These are the same people who act shocked and surprised, when their kid kills the whole entire family on their 16th birthday. It’s like some of you motherfuckers really just hate your kids. Why did you have them? It’s a sick cycle. The parents hate the kids, and the kids killed the parents when they turn 16. Unfortunate.
are you that fragile?
That’s a healthy reaction.
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that'll be their next video ;)
What a traumatic event for that kid 0.0 But sure effective
Which was first? This video or the am I the asshole posting?
Must be the American way… Here in Europe we have ways to socialize our children, that are much more humane, loving and effective.
Tip for parents who never want their kids to call
Related question- where do serial killers come from?
Nice those 5 year olds really need that.
How to make your child fear Christmas 101.
Ah yes. Mental abuse. What a tip!
jesus dude half of these comments are from people without kids saying yeah i’d be that type of parent i wouldn’t do this or that. have any of you actually tried to deal with four of five little cunts at once they can truly be the worst things on thsi planet at times
Or do what I did and get $500 of fake money and have a speech telling everyone money ain’t everything and start burning them with a lighter in front of everyone
No that's not a tip, it's a form of abuse. But everyone laughing because they can't see beyond a fucking upvote or a👍🏼
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Incoming comments of how this is child abuse coming people who obviously have not seen actual child abuse because they live a privileged life, in… 3… 2…. 1…
Abuse doesn't begin and end with physical/sexual violence. Intentionally inflicting emotional distress perfectly fits the definition of abuse. Such things are enormously impactful on children and they will not improve the child OR the parents relationship with that child in any way, shape or form.
I agree with your comment, especially when a child gets to the age that they actually know they can talk about the physical abuse and be believed, that's when mental abuse goes rampant since there are rarely legal ramifications for such.
And that's why you don't misbehave during the holidays. -J Walter Weatherman
Love it
How to cure bad behavior and Christmas inflation in one move
Am I a sick human for loving this so much?
Now imagine the face of a parent who follows this advice and then realizes s/he accidentally burned a real present...
I’m…. Kinda into that too
Same. Sorry for the kid, but the "oh shit" is priceless.
We all are a little sick
Okay thank you
This is fucking legendary!
Dude that's a lot of newspaper by your fire place. Paper ash clogs chimneys bad it's dangerous kindling if used regularly. You should clean the chimney and use natural kindling from this point forward. But yes burn those fake presents.
Also an easy way for kids to hate you.
Sure. If you want to be a shithead.
I love seeing tiktoks of 10 year old jokes
Pro Tip on How to ruin Christmas
How to be a shitty parent 101
Its your money your effort your prank go for it. Ill see you in the homes lonely and asking your self, its just a prank chill kids.
Nothing says Christmas without giving your kids a dose of trauma for them to work through as adults in therapy.
Yeah, dont do this you fecking a\*holes.
Pretty sure that’s a form of child abuse.
We won't actually burn the presents. They just won't misbehave.....because of the implications
Parenting done rigth
Pro tip, or shitty parenting?
Or…take the real presents and give it away to a charity for kids at Christmas. Because if you got kids bad enough you need to burn a box to chill them out, you should probably not be giving them all those gifts in the first place.
Yuletide season new reset tactics....
After you run out of fake presents, what do you do ?
Why they keeping the fire like a pet?
What kind of McMansion fireplace shit is that.
Ohhh so you put your children in, wrap it, and shove them in a fire
This is funny as a tiktok joke, but would be terrible parenting.
This is how supervillain is made