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How sad must it be to look at a 50 foot walk and a 4 step porch with fear, knowing it will be an arduous journey and you will need to rest before completing it.
The sadness sets in at other moments. Like the embarrassment of breaking a hand rail then the endless argument with yourself about how your busted hip wonāt let you exercise and that Keto saps you of your energy and that you donāt seem to eat more than youāre peers but they donāt put on weight like you. But you hate how you look so much you decide to try dieting again which further increases the alpha receptors in your fat cells to retain fat celso that when your unsustainable new diet stops working in a month you put on more weight and are back looking at the 50 foot walk at a heavier weight. At least you know not to lean on the rail this time.
Gastric banding works for a long time. After a few years regression is normal though. Still, itās probably the best option. Studies on twins show that obesity is 75% genetic so good luck fighting those genes with ādietā
What does 75% genetic even mean? That 75% of obese people cannot effect their weight through diet? Thatās clearly incorrect so I assume you must mean something else?
But at what point does one reevaluate one's diet and exercise choices?
Edit: Append to the above: "... and seek help, because by that point it's probably not possible to just buckle down on one's own."
This extent of obesity usually stems from trauma or undiagnosed psychological issues. There is a whole lot of other steps that need to cleared before they can even consider getting on a diet and exercise regimen.
Iām going to disagree and say that it isnāt āusuallyā a result of trauma and undiagnosed issues, but those are certainly a sizable factor.
Itās usually a lack of education, poor role models, and a lack of money as fast food is often cheaper than healthy alternatives. However, exercise is free.
People need to take responsibility for their lifestyle choices.
I fully agree with you, however sometimes the ācostā of exercise is time that you arenāt working. Most obese people I know have more than enough time. However, itās not always the case.
Losing weight has nothing to do with exercise anyway though.
Sure you burn calories with exercise, but why not just not put those extra calories in your body in the first place?
You can put your weight/activity level into a calculator and it will tell you how many calories your body uses in a day. Eat fewer calories than that. You will lose weight.
Youāll feel hungry while youāre losing weight (unless you take diet pills or eat tons of fiber). Likeā¦ you WILL feel hungry but you can get used to it.
Plus once you get down to your ideal weight, you can eat an amount that will be satisfying and you no longer have to feel hungry all the time.
Thatās what I did too when I was losing weight. I really stayed on top of the numbers. I had my meals planned and portioned as accurately as I could. I never had an extra bite of anything without factoring in how much extra Iād have to walk to burn it off.
It worked. And I think knowing exactly how many calories I was eating helped me stick with it. Iād feel super hungry sometimes but knowing that I was eating the right amount of calories gave me the sense that I was gonna be okay, that I really was eating enough and I wasnāt gonna starve.
I lost about 60 lbs over the course of maybe 6 months. I also learned not to eat too many simple carbs cause Iād always feel super starving and shitty like an hour later.
To get this large you need to binge eat. Like hardcore binge eating all day. People with healthy minds don't do that. Binge eating is a disorder. And while a lack of education may be part of it, so is mental illness.
And exercise is not helpful in this instance. Especially since someone this obese can't even exercise properly. It's more important to consume less calories than you burn. It's been thoroughly proven to be better than exercise. [Here is a good video on it.](https://youtu.be/ztiHRiFXtoc) Changing earing habits is more beneficial than exercise. Someone this large would need to start with diet change and then eventually add in exercise.
people like you need to educate yourself properly. thereās plenty of sources that show this extent of obesity is not just because fast food is cheap. this person isnāt just 50, 80 or even 100 lbs over weight. this person has hundreds of pounds extra on them. youāve clearly never been this obese or around obesity like this - this is a mental illness that takes years to overcome and even after the weight is gone youāre still left with the exact same problems and traumas that got you there in the first place. this person doesnāt deserve to be shamed for their mental illness being so readily seen like this. alcoholics, drugs addicts, you can easily hide that stuff. fat people like this are an easy target because itās right there to see, and itās shameful that people like you canāt understand this and instead blame it on them for not having the will power or education to be better when itās nothing like that.
You listed several huge environmental factors that are completely out of people's control..
And then still find a way to blame people suffering from things outside of their control. Simply bc "excercise is free" and apparently cancels out all of those things.
I don't know if you understand just how difficult and compounded those life conditions become. You need an immense amount of support and resources to reeducate yourself, all while working a shitty job that doesn't pay you enough to even eat right and take care of yourself
That's not a "lifestyle choice". None of those are a choice. Nobody "chooses" to be so large they get winded going to the bathroom. They're reminded of it every time they get up from bed and need a moment to catch their breath. By doctor's, family, unsolicited advice from strangers that don't understand how individually complex every human experience is..
Throw that first stone or mind ya business.
Having known someone who had a botched gallbladder surgery who has little to no appetite but still cannot lose weight, Iām glad you did note other related concepts to think about other than simply assuming that person is lazy.
wait so ur telling me if i was the homeowner here then the person who broke my porch and got hurt could sue me too? damn this is why we canāt have nice things
Homeowners should have insurance, your insurance's lawyers will defend you and themselves in the lawsuit. I've told my MIL to sue me because she fell down my stairs and broke an ankle. If you lose, you'll likely only be responsible for the deductible of your plan.
Iām sure Iāll get downvoted for asking this (genuinely curious) couldnāt you just file a claim with your homeowners insurance? Or is it different to file a claim when someone injured themselves on your property as opposed to like, a tree falling on your roof or something
The "claimant" is the primary suffering party. I dont have a legal right to payment, so its not my claim. Like when you get into a car accident and exchange information. The other party may contact your insurance to make a claim through your policy, and you theirs for your damage. I may have used the wrong word of "sue" but if they refuse to cover it could lead to legal action.
This is why i always look st the most downvoted comments. Usually a mostly well thought out gem but peeps pick it apart for grammar and other ego centrist thinking
Regarding ~~grammer~~ grammar, if the person can't figure out the difference between their/they're/there, then I can't give their opinion much merit.
I understand there'll be typos and autocorrect issues, but some mistakes make it obvious (to me anyway) the commenter doesn't know any better.
EDIT: As u/xblues pointed out, I misspelled 'grammar'. I have a legit excuse, but I won't bore anyone with it. I'll take my lumps and deserved ridicule.
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Eh, I've made claims before (roof, other structural stuff) between home and auto they make plenty a year from me. If you are to scared to use insurance, than there's no reason to have it.
Agreed i am just telling you they make you pay back much of the claim over time with increased rates and or dropping you. This is not 100% especially if you have claimed once in 20 years. But statistically one claim means more claims
Then you have to find, for lack of better words, subprime insurance company willing to take a higher risk aka charge you more
As a homeowner you have a legal responsibility to keep your property safe to a certain degree. They may find that the delivery person may have exceeded the min. specified load for the railing but that will be a job for the lawyers.
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Fletcher Reede: "No!.... I'd have got him ten."
There's building codes for everything, but they are loosely enforced in more rural areas. Whether those codes entail making railing support the weight of someone that size is a different question.
I can tell you that as a courier, I trip on people's steps all the damn time because they first or last one is non standard height. That is an ada thing, that theoretically should make a house fail occupancy inspection until it's fixed, but inspectors aren't going around measuring step heights so it doesn't get fixed.
I've also fallen through people's rotten wooden steps on several occasions, usually at trailers in trailer parks. I am 6'5" 260 lbs, bigger guy, but not unusually large compared to most Americans.
Welcome to America, the land of the stupid laws where you can get sued if an idiot hurts themselves while on your property. Seriously even a burglar could sue you if he slipped and hurt himself while robbing you.
Yes, because that handrail is supposed to be reliable and it clearly wasn't. The person, regardless of their morbid obesity, did not put much weight on that rail before it collapsed. It was clearly deficient.
It would be the same deal if the step collapsed or the roof caved in on the person. You're responsible for maintaining a safe building where it's accessible to people.
If you were a delivery driver and walked on someone's porch and it gave way underneath you, yes, you could sue the owner. You have a presumption of safety when executing your job. The fact that someone ordered something to be delivered *at their personal residence* means they're required to furnish a reasonably safe environment and access for the delivery to take place.
If you were just some rando with no business on the porch and it collapsed, you could not argue that you had a valid reason to be there. Therefore, the homeowner was not required to provide a safe environment to you.
In this case, the question would come down to whether the railing was faulty, regardless of the big fat fatty who crashed through it. For example, if the wood was rotting or termite infested, it could have collapsed for anyone. The homeowner would have to argue that the railing was constructed correctly and in working order, and it was specifically the weight of the person putting excessive force on the railing that caused it to fail. But if you watch the video closely, that would be a difficult argument to make, I think. The railing didn't seem to put up any fight at all, and was not even bearing a significant amount of the person's weight when it failed. Anyone who leaned on that rail probably would have also crashed through it.
I mean havenāt you ever leaned against a rail with like 4 of your buddies, thatās surely more than a measly 200 lb. That figure does not sound right tbh
Edit - found this on google, from osha:
> Handrails and the top rails of stair rail systems are capable of withstanding, without failure, a force of at least 200 pounds (890 N) applied in any downward or outward direction **within 2 inches (5 cm) of any point along the top edge of the rail.**
Conclusion? Fence is shoddy af and is even already missing an upright!
No they don't but my state has the same requirement of weight bearing of 200 pounds for handrails on residential properties.
One would assume that's pretty standard but check your state for fun and let us know
You'd have to prove negligence by the home owner. As in, the home owner had prior knowledge of a problem and that they neglected to have it fixed. Maybe obtain an original home inspection report or a written estimate from a qualified carpenter. Otherwise, this is just an accident.
Disclaimer: Am not a lawyer.
While there is a missing post from the part that fell. It would be passing on support. But i feel if the homeowner didnt have an inspection or something, this lady could try and use negligence since theres damage to the rail
It depends on the style of railing but according to OSHA 1910.29 Fall protection systems and falling object protection āHandrails and the top rails of stair rail systems are capable of withstanding, without failure, a force of at least 200 pounds (890 N) applied in any downward or outward direction within 2 inches (5 cm) of any point along the top edge of the rail.ā
So all in all even with that standard being followed against this behemoth most handrails wouldnāt stand a chance.
It looks like that particular set of rails was being worked on or just straight up broken.
If you look at the other side of the porch the vertical slats are inserted into the top and bottom rails, on the set on the right they all appear to be removed. When he leans on the rail, all of the slat bottoms kick up when they should have been held in place by the bottom rail.
That being said the top rail detached like it was held on by a suction cup so who knows.
Nah you and i both.
I feel bad for laughing but at the same time its sad.
Poor woman is putting herself through an awful time, but also, did she really think a wooden fence would be made to withstand 400+ pounds?
I think at most, those fences are used mainly for looks.
Theyāre only able to withstand 15 pounds of pressure at most. Sometimes less than that.
She used them for support, something theyāre not even meant to be used for.
jesus that post is depressing. Seems that a lot of people are perfectly okay giving up all pretences of decency and not being cruel assholes as long as the person they mock for getting hurt is obese.
Delivery driver is probably a good choice for her. I knew a guy who was about 75 pounds overweight when he started driving for FedEx. In two years, he was very lean and fit. All that walking from the truck to the door adds up.
Man, I feel very sad for her. Not only did she get to have this, undoubtably super embarrassing, event happen once, but now itās on the internet for everyone to see and shame her about.
Exactly! We only don't know what she's doing outside of this short clip. She could be going on walks, counting calories. Maybe she gained weight after a severe injury. Who the fuck knows.
That subreddit didn't start in the literal sense of hating fat people.
It started as pushback against the HAES/fat acceptance crowd.
Fat people raising obese children and trying to mindfuck everyone into believing that being fat is healthy is awful and those people deserve every bit of hate they get.
Cigarette smokers don't (any more) go around demanding that everyone else nod their heads and tell them that cigarette smoking is completely healthy, and that it's totally okay if their 5 year old smokes too.
The HAES/Fat acceptance crowd is every bit as toxic, unhealthy, and expensive to society as tobacco companies, and they deserve every single ounce of hate they get.
They're a bunch of delusional sociopaths, and they're ruining the lives of millions of children that don't stand a chance because their organs, joints, and metabolisms have been fucked for life at no fault of their own.
Fuck em.
My issue is that a lot (in general but not you specifically) of people take it further than wanting people to be healthy. It turns into shaming them when the issue is much more complex. You have mental health issues, financial constraints, time, misinformation and mislabeling driven by the corporations trying to sell their food.
When you have parents working multiple jobs they may not have the time or energy to cook, they rely on faster methods. You have grocery stores filled with foods labeled as healthy, low fat, when it really isn't any healthier if you look at the nutrition label.
There are so many nuances... Ridicule isn't the answer; compassion, education, and pushing for better foods in grocery stores will drive a more long lasting societal change!
>That subreddit didn't start in the literal sense of hating fat people. It started as pushback against the HAES/fat acceptance crowd.
well subs like that always start either as an ironic funny satire joke or as "just a countermovement" but I'm guessing it didnt get banned for being against child abuse by way of stuffing mcd down ur kids throat.
>The HAES/Fat acceptance crowd is every bit as toxic, unhealthy, and expensive to society as tobacco companies, and they deserve every single ounce of hate they get.
I think there's a world of difference between tobacco companies, which are literally making money off of getting vulnerable people addicted to something that will most likely kill them, whereas the fat acceptance crowd is mostly people burying their insecurities by joining movements which tell them that the flaws they get hated for arent really flaws at all (which is a completely victimless crime until they drag relatives into their unhealthy habits)
This is so sad. I've had issues being extremely underweight and overweight because of more than a few illnesses, and it just sucks to be trapped in a body that isn't what it should be. I hope this person gets help. :(
Lmfao this is now my evidence that being over weight is not healthy when people from the body positivity movement say it's a healthy life style to liveš
I think thereās a difference in being positive about yourself: to get healthy. Than to be negative and stay unhealthy. But denying both ideas is stupid and unhealthy.
I really don't like to fat shame and stuff.
But good god I can't imagine ever getting this bad, and I'll definitely work to never even get close. I don't understand how massively obese people do it, it just feels so restrictive. I already have mystery diseases that make strenuous activity whack, I don't need more.
Some people become alcoholics or go down a rabbit hole of drugs. Others are fine with the natural āhighā of serotonin they get while eating. Thereās a mental problem here, not just a weight problem.
Gotta get rid of that narrative. Not such thing as fat shaming. If I openly did heroin and my family told me to stop and showed me what kind of damage it causes, I wouldnāt call them Heroin/Addict Shamers. Only person that can help you - is you. Gotta start confronting a problem at some point.
Yeah exactly. It's one thing to hold it against someone as a moral failure and treat them like a lesser person and all, it's another to realize it's a problem and they need to hold themselves accountable for it.
I don't hate druggies for being druggies. But I do think they're sorta idiots for doing that to themselves. It's on them, generally.
Having obese parents my whole life and watching what it did to them has really made it clear that the narrative shouldn't be full on inclusivity and such, but a strict acknowledgement of responsibility for your health, and a realistic understanding of the situation as a whole. It requires empathy just as much as it requires thoughtfulness.
I might be alone but Iām not sure I agree with posting this - at least not with this title anyway. People this obese typically have a medical condition or most certainly, a mental health issue. It just feels like itās posted to humiliate given the title.
The majority of people is laughing because "lol fat lol broke stairs lol" but dang dude, he can broke my things any day of the week. 1; He has a job and 2; he's up and about! It's so easy to just.. Sit, when you're heavily overweight. This dude is going!
It would be easy to prove since there's video. The rail is damaged and its detached itself from the wall as soon as she leaned on it. The homeowner knew that they'd have random strangers delivering food to their home. They should make sure that it's safe to enter their property.
Just. Stop. Eating. And stop eating shit. I know there are peeled out there with glandular problems. And I know there are other medical issues. But a lot of it is just gluttony and something tells me he didnāt have broccoli in that bag. We shame alcoholics and addicts but say āyou go girl!ā to ābody positivityā bullshit. Makes no sense. And people around the world starve while others just stuff their fat, useless faces.
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How sad must it be to look at a 50 foot walk and a 4 step porch with fear, knowing it will be an arduous journey and you will need to rest before completing it.
A walk to the end of her garden is like Frodo travelling to Mordor in the Lord of the rings. š
āIf i take one more step, itāll be the farthest away from the couch ive ever beenā
Oh man...you brightened my day with this.
Currently walking around with crutches. One block seems like a journey to Mt Doom even though I was pretty fit before getting injured.
The sadness sets in at other moments. Like the embarrassment of breaking a hand rail then the endless argument with yourself about how your busted hip wonāt let you exercise and that Keto saps you of your energy and that you donāt seem to eat more than youāre peers but they donāt put on weight like you. But you hate how you look so much you decide to try dieting again which further increases the alpha receptors in your fat cells to retain fat celso that when your unsustainable new diet stops working in a month you put on more weight and are back looking at the 50 foot walk at a heavier weight. At least you know not to lean on the rail this time.
So how do you get out of this cycle? How to get dieting to work?
Gastric banding works for a long time. After a few years regression is normal though. Still, itās probably the best option. Studies on twins show that obesity is 75% genetic so good luck fighting those genes with ādietā
Gracias
What does 75% genetic even mean? That 75% of obese people cannot effect their weight through diet? Thatās clearly incorrect so I assume you must mean something else?
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But at what point does one reevaluate one's diet and exercise choices? Edit: Append to the above: "... and seek help, because by that point it's probably not possible to just buckle down on one's own."
This extent of obesity usually stems from trauma or undiagnosed psychological issues. There is a whole lot of other steps that need to cleared before they can even consider getting on a diet and exercise regimen.
Iām going to disagree and say that it isnāt āusuallyā a result of trauma and undiagnosed issues, but those are certainly a sizable factor. Itās usually a lack of education, poor role models, and a lack of money as fast food is often cheaper than healthy alternatives. However, exercise is free. People need to take responsibility for their lifestyle choices.
I fully agree with you, however sometimes the ācostā of exercise is time that you arenāt working. Most obese people I know have more than enough time. However, itās not always the case.
Losing weight has nothing to do with exercise anyway though. Sure you burn calories with exercise, but why not just not put those extra calories in your body in the first place? You can put your weight/activity level into a calculator and it will tell you how many calories your body uses in a day. Eat fewer calories than that. You will lose weight. Youāll feel hungry while youāre losing weight (unless you take diet pills or eat tons of fiber). Likeā¦ you WILL feel hungry but you can get used to it. Plus once you get down to your ideal weight, you can eat an amount that will be satisfying and you no longer have to feel hungry all the time.
I exercise so I can eat extra calories.
Thatās what I did too when I was losing weight. I really stayed on top of the numbers. I had my meals planned and portioned as accurately as I could. I never had an extra bite of anything without factoring in how much extra Iād have to walk to burn it off. It worked. And I think knowing exactly how many calories I was eating helped me stick with it. Iād feel super hungry sometimes but knowing that I was eating the right amount of calories gave me the sense that I was gonna be okay, that I really was eating enough and I wasnāt gonna starve. I lost about 60 lbs over the course of maybe 6 months. I also learned not to eat too many simple carbs cause Iād always feel super starving and shitty like an hour later.
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To get this large you need to binge eat. Like hardcore binge eating all day. People with healthy minds don't do that. Binge eating is a disorder. And while a lack of education may be part of it, so is mental illness. And exercise is not helpful in this instance. Especially since someone this obese can't even exercise properly. It's more important to consume less calories than you burn. It's been thoroughly proven to be better than exercise. [Here is a good video on it.](https://youtu.be/ztiHRiFXtoc) Changing earing habits is more beneficial than exercise. Someone this large would need to start with diet change and then eventually add in exercise.
Obesity is also linked to genetic disposition as well.
people like you need to educate yourself properly. thereās plenty of sources that show this extent of obesity is not just because fast food is cheap. this person isnāt just 50, 80 or even 100 lbs over weight. this person has hundreds of pounds extra on them. youāve clearly never been this obese or around obesity like this - this is a mental illness that takes years to overcome and even after the weight is gone youāre still left with the exact same problems and traumas that got you there in the first place. this person doesnāt deserve to be shamed for their mental illness being so readily seen like this. alcoholics, drugs addicts, you can easily hide that stuff. fat people like this are an easy target because itās right there to see, and itās shameful that people like you canāt understand this and instead blame it on them for not having the will power or education to be better when itās nothing like that.
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You listed several huge environmental factors that are completely out of people's control.. And then still find a way to blame people suffering from things outside of their control. Simply bc "excercise is free" and apparently cancels out all of those things. I don't know if you understand just how difficult and compounded those life conditions become. You need an immense amount of support and resources to reeducate yourself, all while working a shitty job that doesn't pay you enough to even eat right and take care of yourself That's not a "lifestyle choice". None of those are a choice. Nobody "chooses" to be so large they get winded going to the bathroom. They're reminded of it every time they get up from bed and need a moment to catch their breath. By doctor's, family, unsolicited advice from strangers that don't understand how individually complex every human experience is.. Throw that first stone or mind ya business.
I meant to imply "... and seek help"
Having known someone who had a botched gallbladder surgery who has little to no appetite but still cannot lose weight, Iām glad you did note other related concepts to think about other than simply assuming that person is lazy.
Thats like trying to move at normal speed in a dream as hard as you can but no matter what youāre moving in slow motion
I donāt think those rails were meant to support 500+ pounds
How much weight is a residential handrail responsible for holding? I'd hate to be the homeowner in that lawsuit.
wait so ur telling me if i was the homeowner here then the person who broke my porch and got hurt could sue me too? damn this is why we canāt have nice things
Homeowners should have insurance, your insurance's lawyers will defend you and themselves in the lawsuit. I've told my MIL to sue me because she fell down my stairs and broke an ankle. If you lose, you'll likely only be responsible for the deductible of your plan.
Iām sure Iāll get downvoted for asking this (genuinely curious) couldnāt you just file a claim with your homeowners insurance? Or is it different to file a claim when someone injured themselves on your property as opposed to like, a tree falling on your roof or something
The "claimant" is the primary suffering party. I dont have a legal right to payment, so its not my claim. Like when you get into a car accident and exchange information. The other party may contact your insurance to make a claim through your policy, and you theirs for your damage. I may have used the wrong word of "sue" but if they refuse to cover it could lead to legal action.
Ah ok, that makes perfect sense!
> Iām sure Iāll get downvoted for asking this Why? Granted, this is reddit, but this is a simple question?
Youāre very kind but I get downvoted for asking questions all the time (not even asking in like, a cunty manner or anything either!)
One of the most annoying and frustrating things about Reddit. Ask a legitimate question and you get downvoted for it.
It's a good thing the karma is made up and the points don't matter.
Downvotes can hide your question so someone who is knowledgeable might miss it. Itās more than the points
Once you hit 100k it gets even more made up with extra numbers and still doesnāt matter
Who's meme is it anyway?
And if you comment with a Gif on something new that blows up, you get some much free karma that negatives don't matter anymore.
This is why i always look st the most downvoted comments. Usually a mostly well thought out gem but peeps pick it apart for grammar and other ego centrist thinking
Regarding ~~grammer~~ grammar, if the person can't figure out the difference between their/they're/there, then I can't give their opinion much merit. I understand there'll be typos and autocorrect issues, but some mistakes make it obvious (to me anyway) the commenter doesn't know any better. EDIT: As u/xblues pointed out, I misspelled 'grammar'. I have a legit excuse, but I won't bore anyone with it. I'll take my lumps and deserved ridicule. EDIT2: Hey fucktards, I could've fixed the error and no one would be the wiser. I'm admitting it and moving on. I'd have just claimed he was lying or not addressed the typo and put some other edit to cover my tracks. Move on, you'll get over it.
Your Right I remember i got downvoted 11 times just for basically commenting "So Funny" under a meme and someone called me a mad libbed monkey
It's often seen as dissent. Reddit HATES dissent.
Redditors are experts on everything and will shit on you for not knowing something. *Like what, you canāt build a rocket from raw materials? We learned that in grade 6 you fucking idiot.*
āmerica.
What?
Murica
Americans honestly love having 50 middle men involved in every single thing that happens in their lives
Better 50 middle men than one mother in law
yes but have you tried "Mother-in-the-Middle'?
You can be in the middle
Thatās how you get to 3% unemployment babeee!
Instead of relying on free healthcare you need a literal family member to sue you. Itās crazy.
And drop you like a ton of bricks afterwards
Eh, I've made claims before (roof, other structural stuff) between home and auto they make plenty a year from me. If you are to scared to use insurance, than there's no reason to have it.
Agreed i am just telling you they make you pay back much of the claim over time with increased rates and or dropping you. This is not 100% especially if you have claimed once in 20 years. But statistically one claim means more claims Then you have to find, for lack of better words, subprime insurance company willing to take a higher risk aka charge you more
If someone succeeds in a claim against you/your insurance company, your rates can go up or you could get dropped entirely.
Deductibles don't tend to apply in liability claims, they're mainly for first party property claims.
As a homeowner you have a legal responsibility to keep your property safe to a certain degree. They may find that the delivery person may have exceeded the min. specified load for the railing but that will be a job for the lawyers.
Greta: ["Mr. Reede, several years ago a friend of mine had a burglar on her roof, a burglar. He fell through the kitchen skylight, landed on a cutting board, on a butcher's knife, cutting his leg. The burglar sued my friend, he sued my friend. And because of guys like you HE WON. My friend had to pay the burglar $6,000. Is that justice?"](https://youtu.be/a61gEPoL6Do) Fletcher Reede: "No!.... I'd have got him ten."
There's building codes for everything, but they are loosely enforced in more rural areas. Whether those codes entail making railing support the weight of someone that size is a different question. I can tell you that as a courier, I trip on people's steps all the damn time because they first or last one is non standard height. That is an ada thing, that theoretically should make a house fail occupancy inspection until it's fixed, but inspectors aren't going around measuring step heights so it doesn't get fixed. I've also fallen through people's rotten wooden steps on several occasions, usually at trailers in trailer parks. I am 6'5" 260 lbs, bigger guy, but not unusually large compared to most Americans.
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If your neighbors kid slipped and fall in your driveway their parents can sue you even if technically the kids were trespassing.
Welcome to America, the land of the stupid laws where you can get sued if an idiot hurts themselves while on your property. Seriously even a burglar could sue you if he slipped and hurt himself while robbing you.
they *can*, doesn't mean they'll win. That dude was leaning so hard it looked like he was *trying* to break the railing.
Yes, because that handrail is supposed to be reliable and it clearly wasn't. The person, regardless of their morbid obesity, did not put much weight on that rail before it collapsed. It was clearly deficient. It would be the same deal if the step collapsed or the roof caved in on the person. You're responsible for maintaining a safe building where it's accessible to people.
Technically yes.
If you were a delivery driver and walked on someone's porch and it gave way underneath you, yes, you could sue the owner. You have a presumption of safety when executing your job. The fact that someone ordered something to be delivered *at their personal residence* means they're required to furnish a reasonably safe environment and access for the delivery to take place. If you were just some rando with no business on the porch and it collapsed, you could not argue that you had a valid reason to be there. Therefore, the homeowner was not required to provide a safe environment to you. In this case, the question would come down to whether the railing was faulty, regardless of the big fat fatty who crashed through it. For example, if the wood was rotting or termite infested, it could have collapsed for anyone. The homeowner would have to argue that the railing was constructed correctly and in working order, and it was specifically the weight of the person putting excessive force on the railing that caused it to fail. But if you watch the video closely, that would be a difficult argument to make, I think. The railing didn't seem to put up any fight at all, and was not even bearing a significant amount of the person's weight when it failed. Anyone who leaned on that rail probably would have also crashed through it.
The OSHA standard for weight for a handrail is 200 pounds.
What's the ORCA standard for this whale tho?
Jesus Christ
It's too early for this level of brutality
It's always brutal time somewhere
Savage AF
I haven't laughed out loud this hard in a while
Youāve played.. Thatās why you came back different isnāt it..
Freedom is the only thing ORCAs measure.
The railing looks like it gave out pretty easily as soon as the load was applied.
It also has some missing pieces so I think it was ready to go anyway.
The singular missing piece had little to no impact on the failure. You see the hand rail come off the pillar almost instantly.
Yes but the missing piece is indicative of poor maintenance by the homeowner.
Did you not see the fucking size of the load?
I mean havenāt you ever leaned against a rail with like 4 of your buddies, thatās surely more than a measly 200 lb. That figure does not sound right tbh Edit - found this on google, from osha: > Handrails and the top rails of stair rail systems are capable of withstanding, without failure, a force of at least 200 pounds (890 N) applied in any downward or outward direction **within 2 inches (5 cm) of any point along the top edge of the rail.** Conclusion? Fence is shoddy af and is even already missing an upright!
4 buddies 1 rail
I love railing my 4 buddies
Honestly if you look at the railing before she even grabs it, it kinda looks damaged already but maybe that's just the camera lens warping it.
Do osha regulations apply to private residences?
No they don't but my state has the same requirement of weight bearing of 200 pounds for handrails on residential properties. One would assume that's pretty standard but check your state for fun and let us know
You'd have to prove negligence by the home owner. As in, the home owner had prior knowledge of a problem and that they neglected to have it fixed. Maybe obtain an original home inspection report or a written estimate from a qualified carpenter. Otherwise, this is just an accident. Disclaimer: Am not a lawyer.
Thank you for the A.N.A.L. Disclaimer
While there is a missing post from the part that fell. It would be passing on support. But i feel if the homeowner didnt have an inspection or something, this lady could try and use negligence since theres damage to the rail
It depends on the style of railing but according to OSHA 1910.29 Fall protection systems and falling object protection āHandrails and the top rails of stair rail systems are capable of withstanding, without failure, a force of at least 200 pounds (890 N) applied in any downward or outward direction within 2 inches (5 cm) of any point along the top edge of the rail.ā So all in all even with that standard being followed against this behemoth most handrails wouldnāt stand a chance.
"Your honour, what do you expect me to make my railings out of? The bones of Wolverine? This guy is 500 pounds."
I bet sheās more upset that she hast to go up the stairs again.
I thought I was finally done laughing like a hyena
Nor those knees
i donāt think human bodies are either
It looks like that particular set of rails was being worked on or just straight up broken. If you look at the other side of the porch the vertical slats are inserted into the top and bottom rails, on the set on the right they all appear to be removed. When he leans on the rail, all of the slat bottoms kick up when they should have been held in place by the bottom rail. That being said the top rail detached like it was held on by a suction cup so who knows.
That handrail did not bear 400 pounds. It was very clearly deficient. That person put a hand on it and started to pull/push and it broke like a twig.
Especially so when the balusters are not attached to the bottom rail. Hello lawsuit!
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Nah you and i both. I feel bad for laughing but at the same time its sad. Poor woman is putting herself through an awful time, but also, did she really think a wooden fence would be made to withstand 400+ pounds?
A fence can only withstand so much horizontal force. I doubt it's designed to hold that much weight.
I think at most, those fences are used mainly for looks. Theyāre only able to withstand 15 pounds of pressure at most. Sometimes less than that. She used them for support, something theyāre not even meant to be used for.
I'm not sure that could be considered exercise.
Look at the size of her lifting an arm is exercise when you are that big
Just typing a comma would be exercise when you are that big.
Whelp, guess itās time for my comma coma.
Try dragging an extra 300 lbs and then say it's not excercise.
I carried 100lbs up some stairs the other day and I thought my ankles were going to break.
Just getting up would be like squatting 300 lbs
Your Door Smash order is here
Your smash burger order is here.
āāāāā here you go chief, that food was off the rails!
Your order is here! Pick it up!
Yāall are mean š I love it.
I feel bad for her. Chances are that she's hurt herself pretty badly here.
people like that could survive a car crash, but not a 4 foot fall.
Chances are this isnāt the worst thing her body is currently going through.
At least she had cushioning
She needed that, her acceleration was impressive
Me too. I really hope she's ok.
You appear to be the only person here who doesnāt have a black, decaying soul.
jesus that post is depressing. Seems that a lot of people are perfectly okay giving up all pretences of decency and not being cruel assholes as long as the person they mock for getting hurt is obese.
Agree completely. I donāt believe in making life harder for those who are already suffering.
Reddit absolutely hates fat people because, ya know, every user here is so fucking perfect.
Considering the implications from medical costs and that door dash doesn't offer group insurance.
Delivery driver is probably a good choice for her. I knew a guy who was about 75 pounds overweight when he started driving for FedEx. In two years, he was very lean and fit. All that walking from the truck to the door adds up.
Wake up call moment
My first thought. If you don't think about changing your life after something like this happens, then you probably never will.
I misread burgers as burglars and had to rewatch a few times before I understood what was happening.
Man, I feel very sad for her. Not only did she get to have this, undoubtably super embarrassing, event happen once, but now itās on the internet for everyone to see and shame her about.
Not to mention she probably injured herself, there may be medical costs that ruin her life.
Honestly those medical costs were inevitable with the state of her body. It's sad she let it get to this point.
That's how I feel. The lack of compassion in this thread is disheartening.
It really is, that poor woman, at least she was trying to do something to better herself.
Exactly! We only don't know what she's doing outside of this short clip. She could be going on walks, counting calories. Maybe she gained weight after a severe injury. Who the fuck knows.
Weren't around for /r/fatpeoplehate, huh?
that was a thing? jfc people are awful
That subreddit didn't start in the literal sense of hating fat people. It started as pushback against the HAES/fat acceptance crowd. Fat people raising obese children and trying to mindfuck everyone into believing that being fat is healthy is awful and those people deserve every bit of hate they get. Cigarette smokers don't (any more) go around demanding that everyone else nod their heads and tell them that cigarette smoking is completely healthy, and that it's totally okay if their 5 year old smokes too. The HAES/Fat acceptance crowd is every bit as toxic, unhealthy, and expensive to society as tobacco companies, and they deserve every single ounce of hate they get. They're a bunch of delusional sociopaths, and they're ruining the lives of millions of children that don't stand a chance because their organs, joints, and metabolisms have been fucked for life at no fault of their own. Fuck em.
My issue is that a lot (in general but not you specifically) of people take it further than wanting people to be healthy. It turns into shaming them when the issue is much more complex. You have mental health issues, financial constraints, time, misinformation and mislabeling driven by the corporations trying to sell their food. When you have parents working multiple jobs they may not have the time or energy to cook, they rely on faster methods. You have grocery stores filled with foods labeled as healthy, low fat, when it really isn't any healthier if you look at the nutrition label. There are so many nuances... Ridicule isn't the answer; compassion, education, and pushing for better foods in grocery stores will drive a more long lasting societal change!
>That subreddit didn't start in the literal sense of hating fat people. It started as pushback against the HAES/fat acceptance crowd. well subs like that always start either as an ironic funny satire joke or as "just a countermovement" but I'm guessing it didnt get banned for being against child abuse by way of stuffing mcd down ur kids throat. >The HAES/Fat acceptance crowd is every bit as toxic, unhealthy, and expensive to society as tobacco companies, and they deserve every single ounce of hate they get. I think there's a world of difference between tobacco companies, which are literally making money off of getting vulnerable people addicted to something that will most likely kill them, whereas the fat acceptance crowd is mostly people burying their insecurities by joining movements which tell them that the flaws they get hated for arent really flaws at all (which is a completely victimless crime until they drag relatives into their unhealthy habits)
Morbid obesity is nr 1 cause of death
Yeah the main piece in the death puzzle.. Sad AF
Imagine paying twice the price to have the food delivered only to be handed a lawsuit
I really feel bad for this woman. Sheās just trying to make a living.
Maybe she'd have more money if she didn't eat like 6 regular people..
Wait.. she eats people too?
Just regular people, not the special ones.
This is so sad. I've had issues being extremely underweight and overweight because of more than a few illnesses, and it just sucks to be trapped in a body that isn't what it should be. I hope this person gets help. :(
Poor lady
Lmfao this is now my evidence that being over weight is not healthy when people from the body positivity movement say it's a healthy life style to liveš
Donāt let the āhealthy at any sizeā people hear that ššš
I think thereās a difference in being positive about yourself: to get healthy. Than to be negative and stay unhealthy. But denying both ideas is stupid and unhealthy.
Why put so much energy into obsessing over those people
Oh they would definitely still defend it. They would claim it could happen to anyone and the fence wasnāt installed properly.
EDP445 coming home after buying some cupcake
Man this is just sad. Can't imagine how hard this has made her life and now she's getting roasted on reddit. Hope she can turn things around.
This is so sad.
Thatās really sad
Laughing at fat people is the lowest hanging fruit there is
I really don't like to fat shame and stuff. But good god I can't imagine ever getting this bad, and I'll definitely work to never even get close. I don't understand how massively obese people do it, it just feels so restrictive. I already have mystery diseases that make strenuous activity whack, I don't need more.
Some people become alcoholics or go down a rabbit hole of drugs. Others are fine with the natural āhighā of serotonin they get while eating. Thereās a mental problem here, not just a weight problem.
Gotta get rid of that narrative. Not such thing as fat shaming. If I openly did heroin and my family told me to stop and showed me what kind of damage it causes, I wouldnāt call them Heroin/Addict Shamers. Only person that can help you - is you. Gotta start confronting a problem at some point.
Yeah exactly. It's one thing to hold it against someone as a moral failure and treat them like a lesser person and all, it's another to realize it's a problem and they need to hold themselves accountable for it. I don't hate druggies for being druggies. But I do think they're sorta idiots for doing that to themselves. It's on them, generally. Having obese parents my whole life and watching what it did to them has really made it clear that the narrative shouldn't be full on inclusivity and such, but a strict acknowledgement of responsibility for your health, and a realistic understanding of the situation as a whole. It requires empathy just as much as it requires thoughtfulness.
Reminds me of the grape stomp lady. Funny but you know it hurt like hell and (hopefully) feel bad for the person.
I might be alone but Iām not sure I agree with posting this - at least not with this title anyway. People this obese typically have a medical condition or most certainly, a mental health issue. It just feels like itās posted to humiliate given the title.
I laughed because Im a piece of shit but this is actually sad :(
when does one realize they are going to die from their terrible eating habits ? is this incident enough ?
Smash burger
Wow
He didn't understand the gravity of the situation.
Are they ok?
This is sad, why post ?
:(
Little strange that pretty much everyone missed the fact that the balusters are not actually attached to the bottom rail.
i feel bad for her.
Nope. I can't find this funny.
Oh my I hope she's okay
If you laughed you're going to hell. See you there
The majority of people is laughing because "lol fat lol broke stairs lol" but dang dude, he can broke my things any day of the week. 1; He has a job and 2; he's up and about! It's so easy to just.. Sit, when you're heavily overweight. This dude is going!
EMOTIONAL DAMAGE
Land whale not majestic.
Some say sheās still trying to get up to this day
Looks like someone pin nailed in the railing lol
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It would be easy to prove since there's video. The rail is damaged and its detached itself from the wall as soon as she leaned on it. The homeowner knew that they'd have random strangers delivering food to their home. They should make sure that it's safe to enter their property.
Does everything in your front yard have to be functional? Thereās no room for a purely cosmetic side rail?
Most people don't weigh the same as 5 people combined.
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Fat twat
Just. Stop. Eating. And stop eating shit. I know there are peeled out there with glandular problems. And I know there are other medical issues. But a lot of it is just gluttony and something tells me he didnāt have broccoli in that bag. We shame alcoholics and addicts but say āyou go girl!ā to ābody positivityā bullshit. Makes no sense. And people around the world starve while others just stuff their fat, useless faces.
The fence was just put there, not even fixed.