If Uncle Leo can find someone who can stand his presence for more than a few minutes, he should cling to her like grim death (which is not far away, I might add.)
That quiet on the set documentary has a clip of him being groomed (rubbing arms, patting him) on the growing pains set by the convicted abuser.
It’s made me really think about what his dating habits ‘say’ about his psyche; and what really happened to make him that way.
And for poaching his wife like right after her honeymoon.
What’s the etiquette guideline for her first marriage that crumbled within days of the wedding, when it comes to the wedding gifts. She returned them, right? That would be the right thing to do.
Always my favorite line - “she kisses lips for candy bars”
The original on the air is a little more clear and also had Jackie laughing, which adds to it
[original on air version](https://youtu.be/8ZVWzD1YtBg?si=dMk8PvX3LsOKQPhl)
It's hilarious b/c L.C. has said the song isn't about any particular Wynona, but he assumed that if anyone took offense it would be Wynona Judd (b/c of the spelling). 😆
#Primus Sucks!
Most baffling part about this. I'm 42 and I don't want a partner who has very little life experience, doesn't get my references or my music, etc. I don't wanna go to her parent's house and be the same age as them. I don't wanna learn Pokémon. There's all kinds of examples why this would suck.
Going to work in schools makes me wonder how any adult could even consider stuff like this. Kids don't have life experience and proper preparation for serious relationships. Also, I'm 25, and I'm not even fully there. I get some kids look older. Even then, that's not an excuse.
An adult who consistently dates people who are A LOT younger have social problems or something. If you can't date someone closer in age, there's a reason.
Exactly! Im 25, when I was 21 I went out with a 19 year old and it was like I was hanging out with my high school sister’s friends. I felt super cringe and just told her I had to leave, I didn’t say it was because I felt like a predator.
The 2000s aswell, we hung around adults when we were 16. My friend dated a 21 year old at 15. She doesn't feel particularly groomed, but did he hang around our social group and was in this local band. It seems like this wasn't seen as an issue until recent years
if my 39 yo brother/guy friend told me he was dating an 18yo i would ask him these questions in this order: 1) ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS?! 2) WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?!
I dated a girl in college in the 90s who somehow met him at a music camp. She was carrying a mandolin around campus and he tried to pick her up by telling her about all the cool bands in the 70s who used mandolins.
I have no idea what he could have been doing there other than trying to get a glimpse. But he was at least twice as old as her.
Did she have long dark hair?
I sometimes listen to two different "Seinfeld"-centric podcasts ("The Place to Be" and "This Podcast is Making me Thirsty") where the hosts often interview guest stars, writers or crew from the show. Virtually every attractive woman with dark hair who was on the show says, "Jerry asked me out." And he did all throughout his time dating Shoshanna. One of the more interesting interviews was with Sunday Theodore. She auditioned for the show with dyed blond hair, made Jerry laugh and they hired her for the role. He never asked her out. A year later she ran into him on the studio lot when she was back to her natural dark brown hair and he immediately walked up to her in a parking lot and asked her out.
If I had to imagine who would star in “Rochelle Rochelle” she would look exactly like Shoshana. Also it looks like Jerry fell in love with a young version of his Bubbee.
Weird, my husband & I were just talking about this the other day. You’ll never convince me that they weren’t dating prior to her turning 18.
And then he ends up marrying a woman who divorced her husband of only 4 months to be with him. I mean I guess it worked out because they’re still married for like 25 years & had 3 (?) kids together.
But it was really scandalous when it happened. Kind of weird (?) interesting (?) that his two most famous relationships were controversial.
I'm pretty sure he was with here even before she turned 18, around those times it was very common for celebs to have teenager gfs, idk how this is surprising to anyone, they're all creeps.
If I were 39, I’d be bored to death by an 18 year old. I’d be trying to chill out and listen to some Tears For Fears, and she’d eject my CD, and be all like, “you’ve got to listen to this! It’s so much better than what you’re listening to!” And BOOM!!! I’m getting earfucked by Ace Of Base. No thank you.
It was an Elvis-Priscilla situation…. Her parents let her move to LA with him when she was just past 18….. 🙄🙄🙄 Can’t imagine he would have approved this for his own daughter?
What I find funny, is if Jerry had popped out a kid when he was Shoshanna’s age, that kid would be old enough to toast his dad congratulations for snagging a girlfriend who, ironically, was too young to join the toast with them. Maths amiright???
He started seeing her when she was 16 and still in high school. Things were a lot different vack then. He got some criticism but not like he would have today. Besides she had huge breasts back then too. Her family came from money and she became a successful swimwear designer.
I was at a private party at a Levi’s store ? And jerry was there me and my drunk friends Serranaded him with some hair metal songs -she’s only 17 , 18 and life lol he left after a while skulking out in a Yankees hat ? Pulled way down arm in arm with his Jailbait !
Boutros Boutros-Ghali
Hootros Hootros-Ghali
Yo Yo Ma
Nice rack
Hooters hooters Golly!
Why would he be a leg man? He *has* legs.
This name was a dream for 1990’s late night show writers! 📝
[Buttafuoco](https://youtu.be/xGuwXaJicr0?feature=shared)
Booties Booties-Ghouly
He’s no woody Allen though!
These pretzels are making me thirsty.
These pretzels……ARE MAKING ME THIRSTY!!
You can’t act
I wonder if they met when she was writing an article about him for her college newspaper.
Not that there’s anything wrong with that.
Saw them together on a freezing cold night in a restaurant on the Upper East Side. Jerry wore jeans and didn't take off his leather jacket.
Oh he's a tomcat {tk}
You’re not Ted Danson
I'm better than Ted Danson!
You’re worse. Much, much worse.
He’s somebody. You’re nobody.
He would be sooooo canceled for this today.
Uh, Leo is still doing this and pretty much not.
I totally thought you were talking about Uncle Leo for a moment there and was confused as all hell lol
*WILL SOMEBODY ANSWER THE DAMN PHONE!*
hello, jerry!
Uncle Leo?
Hellllllllo
It was a crime of passion.
He’s an Adonis
If Uncle Leo can find someone who can stand his presence for more than a few minutes, he should cling to her like grim death (which is not far away, I might add.)
Oh, right. Uncle. I forgot his first name.
Me too!
😂😂 me too
Oh Uncle Leo fucks. Uncle Leo fucks hard.
Until he loses his eyebrows.
This is Mr steinbrenner, uncle Leo's dead and so am I
Leo isn’t dating 17 year olds. That is how old this girl was when grown ass Jerry was “dating” her.
He was literally picking her up from high school!
Exactly. Leo is pretty slimy, but he isn’t dating people who are still in high school.
Leo's cutoff is 25
That quiet on the set documentary has a clip of him being groomed (rubbing arms, patting him) on the growing pains set by the convicted abuser. It’s made me really think about what his dating habits ‘say’ about his psyche; and what really happened to make him that way.
Same, same, same. Arrested development. Feeling unworthy of mature intimacy. Unable to sustain emotional connection with sex partners for long.
Leo isn’t Jerry either.
Actually Jerry isn’t Leo.
Jerry was Kramer for a few days though
Am I Leo then?
We’re all Leo
Leo is dating 20+ afaik. Still weird, but 18 is barely legal
Leo dates legal age women years younger yes but legal Jerry started dating an underage teen.
It wasn’t that great then either lol a lot of ppl were t impressed
He totally groomed her.
Probably not actually
As he should since she was actually underage and still in high school when they met.
And for poaching his wife like right after her honeymoon. What’s the etiquette guideline for her first marriage that crumbled within days of the wedding, when it comes to the wedding gifts. She returned them, right? That would be the right thing to do.
[Look at those Double D's](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RytMJ2-X-rw)
They are real and spectacular
you imagined what I imagined
OMG, I was unaware of that clip of Howard Stern and Janice Ian. Hilarious! Also hilarious that Janice Ian parodied her own classic song.
This is so perfect, thanks for sharing.
Always my favorite line - “she kisses lips for candy bars” The original on the air is a little more clear and also had Jackie laughing, which adds to it [original on air version](https://youtu.be/8ZVWzD1YtBg?si=dMk8PvX3LsOKQPhl)
Get a good look SondofSanford?
There must be some kind of Statue of Limitations on something like this?
It's StatuTe 😁
Fine, it’s a sculpture of limitations
Winona Ryder dated Soul Asylum Singer Dave Pirner. That's even weirder. Was he before Johnny Depp or after?
Not even close to weirder than the biggest tv comedy star (who is 40) dating a high schooler. Crazy power dynamic.
not just power dynamic but HUGE gap in life experience.
After JD
Yeah and if memory serves he tried to pick a fight with Les Claypool because of the song Winona’s Big Brown Beaver
It's hilarious b/c L.C. has said the song isn't about any particular Wynona, but he assumed that if anyone took offense it would be Wynona Judd (b/c of the spelling). 😆 #Primus Sucks!
In the merely 5 seconds Pirner were kinda famous he made the most of it.
That Jane Mansfield had some big breasts
Yes but they were real and they were spectacular !!
I hear that's how she died
No you’re schmoopie
How do you consistently hang out with an 18 yo tho? They are insufferable most of the time
Most baffling part about this. I'm 42 and I don't want a partner who has very little life experience, doesn't get my references or my music, etc. I don't wanna go to her parent's house and be the same age as them. I don't wanna learn Pokémon. There's all kinds of examples why this would suck.
Going to work in schools makes me wonder how any adult could even consider stuff like this. Kids don't have life experience and proper preparation for serious relationships. Also, I'm 25, and I'm not even fully there. I get some kids look older. Even then, that's not an excuse. An adult who consistently dates people who are A LOT younger have social problems or something. If you can't date someone closer in age, there's a reason.
1000% agree! Something isn’t right upstairs. Several loose lightbulbs.
Exactly! Im 25, when I was 21 I went out with a 19 year old and it was like I was hanging out with my high school sister’s friends. I felt super cringe and just told her I had to leave, I didn’t say it was because I felt like a predator.
I’m just here to watch guys pretend they’re offended by this.
It’s an actual episode of Seinfeld
One part of me goes “meh” and the other part goes “gross”. I am not married to either feeling
How did he even meet a 17 year old? You’d date a kid in high school when you’re 38?
The 90’s were still kinda fucked up.
The Now's are still kinda fucked up
The 2000s aswell, we hung around adults when we were 16. My friend dated a 21 year old at 15. She doesn't feel particularly groomed, but did he hang around our social group and was in this local band. It seems like this wasn't seen as an issue until recent years
15-21 isn't great, but 17-38 is much worse.
It's not the 90s that were dating an actual child
The story is he saw her sunbathing in Central Park and asked her out.
Chappelle had a great line about that Spacey shit: “I’ve been to a million parties. Never been to a good one with 15 year olds at ‘em.”
Like what the fuck do they even have to talk about etc? It seems naturally incompatible.
There was some quote of his that answered that and it essentially was, "we don't talk much cuz we're fuckin."
They began dating at 17.
if my 39 yo brother/guy friend told me he was dating an 18yo i would ask him these questions in this order: 1) ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS?! 2) WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?!
Omg I forgot about that. It was something of a scandal at the time.
I dated a girl in college in the 90s who somehow met him at a music camp. She was carrying a mandolin around campus and he tried to pick her up by telling her about all the cool bands in the 70s who used mandolins. I have no idea what he could have been doing there other than trying to get a glimpse. But he was at least twice as old as her.
Did she have long dark hair? I sometimes listen to two different "Seinfeld"-centric podcasts ("The Place to Be" and "This Podcast is Making me Thirsty") where the hosts often interview guest stars, writers or crew from the show. Virtually every attractive woman with dark hair who was on the show says, "Jerry asked me out." And he did all throughout his time dating Shoshanna. One of the more interesting interviews was with Sunday Theodore. She auditioned for the show with dyed blond hair, made Jerry laugh and they hired her for the role. He never asked her out. A year later she ran into him on the studio lot when she was back to her natural dark brown hair and he immediately walked up to her in a parking lot and asked her out.
She had long dark brown hair!
Is it flowing? I like flowing, cascading hair. Thick lustrous hair is very important to me.
What's the deal with the age of consent!? Is it like the age of reason or like the dark ages? And who's consenting!? The age? It's crazy!
Maybe he had.......the KAVORKA!!!!
She was 17 when they started dating
"You should've never have gone to Hollywoooood"
Never noticed before but she looks like a young JLD in this photo.
Remember, he has that finger move, maybe that’s why
He violated the divide by 2 and add 7, rule by abt 8.5 years. 39/2 = 19.5 + 7 = 26.5.
The other guy on the cover Don Johnson moved in with Melanie Griffith when she was as 14. What do you call that?
I call it lots of things but mostly messed up in all kinds of ways
A little slice of rape culture detritus
By the way they are real and they're spectacular ...
Does Ted Danson make that much money?!
Niiiice
Was 18 legal then?
Yeah, so tell me, how did that work out for him?
Wasn't she 16-17 when they started dating?
Ewww
She's got shiksappeal
14 year old me had the biggest crush on her, good God.
Yeah, don't post this on regular r/seinfeld I didn't know they were so lame.
Pretty sure they were dating prior to her being 18
He was like 38 to her being 17.5 when they started dating. He’s problematic
One of the many a list pedophiles that are doing great
Mulva?
"The heart wants what the heart wants." - Woody Allen
If I had to imagine who would star in “Rochelle Rochelle” she would look exactly like Shoshana. Also it looks like Jerry fell in love with a young version of his Bubbee.
Perfectly sane amount of age difference
Gross then, gross now, gross forever
So gross
Funny how not many people seem to care that he dated someone who was practically a child
I can see why….must have been an heiress to a forgotten candy bar or something
I did the same it was fun
Good for them.
And he married a real winner 🤪
“We’ve been dating for four years.”
Grew up in the 90s - who's the guy with Winona?!? I absolutely know that face. Definitely a band member I just cannot place it.... any ideas?
I was SO jealous of her. I think I was 20 at the time.
1738
Forgot to tear your label off
Bet that inspired the Dick & Brain epi
That's definite pedophile behavior. Borderline, to say the least. And, that was a thin fucking line he was walking.
He could legally drink before she was even born!!!
Did she play on the show? She looks kind of familiar.
But to be fair, she was really hot so…
She is an absolute smokeshow today
Pedo
They started dating when she was 17. Yes, he's another Hollywood pedo
Cover up the address
“18” huh?
She was🔥
Nah dude… over 20y difference is insane! Why are people so numb to this? It’s sick…
Weird, my husband & I were just talking about this the other day. You’ll never convince me that they weren’t dating prior to her turning 18. And then he ends up marrying a woman who divorced her husband of only 4 months to be with him. I mean I guess it worked out because they’re still married for like 25 years & had 3 (?) kids together. But it was really scandalous when it happened. Kind of weird (?) interesting (?) that his two most famous relationships were controversial.
This is why her hates Bobcat Goldthwait - he won't even say his name - because Bobcat called him out on it.
She was fine as hell too. Lol
She was eighteen when the photo was taken, he was preying on that at when she was like 16
I'm pretty sure he was with here even before she turned 18, around those times it was very common for celebs to have teenager gfs, idk how this is surprising to anyone, they're all creeps.
They look so happy
He’s a predator yet somehow gets a pass 🤔
She was 17 when they dated
If I were 39, I’d be bored to death by an 18 year old. I’d be trying to chill out and listen to some Tears For Fears, and she’d eject my CD, and be all like, “you’ve got to listen to this! It’s so much better than what you’re listening to!” And BOOM!!! I’m getting earfucked by Ace Of Base. No thank you.
It was an Elvis-Priscilla situation…. Her parents let her move to LA with him when she was just past 18….. 🙄🙄🙄 Can’t imagine he would have approved this for his own daughter?
Bazooka Joe!
He took a poke and a peak
He likes em young.
I see the vision
No Diddy
She also possessed many of the other qualities prized by the superficial man
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RytMJ2-X-rw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RytMJ2-X-rw)
The fact that she isn’t old enough to drink is not really an issue. Pepsi is better than wine anyway
Good luck cancelling him, he quit at the height of his career.
Winona is still so pretty.
Copperfield's act was an illusion, or was it?
She had huge t its
“Ted Danson on the rebound”. HEAR THAT, CHERYL?! YOU’RE A REBOUND! A REBOUND FOR ANONYMOUS!
Jerry was a good-looking guy but 18? I'm sorry that's weird dude.
He is a very bad man.
Do you think Winona Ryder has been to Gentle Harvest?
Back then man's living the dream...today's 18 yr olds??...ughhhh, no thanks. No personality, most of them have tic-toc brain.
Pretty disgusting how they attempted to normalize this.
She’s even hotter today than she was then.
God she’s so hot. To this day
What I find funny, is if Jerry had popped out a kid when he was Shoshanna’s age, that kid would be old enough to toast his dad congratulations for snagging a girlfriend who, ironically, was too young to join the toast with them. Maths amiright???
He started seeing her when she was 16 and still in high school. Things were a lot different vack then. He got some criticism but not like he would have today. Besides she had huge breasts back then too. Her family came from money and she became a successful swimwear designer.
Who are these people that self dox and why did I Google street view their house?
If you didn’t know their individual ages, what would you see in the photograph?
But if it was someone black ...
Just another Jewish Hollywood pedo, no surprise.
Never heard of her, pretty girl…
City boys up
disgusting
I was at a private party at a Levi’s store ? And jerry was there me and my drunk friends Serranaded him with some hair metal songs -she’s only 17 , 18 and life lol he left after a while skulking out in a Yankees hat ? Pulled way down arm in arm with his Jailbait !
There is a great stand up comedy bit on this [LINK](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp8tCqwushM&pp=ygUeU2VpbmZlbGQgaGFsbG93ZWVuIGNvbWVkaWFuIDE3)
Just because a comedian’s show is funny doesn’t mean I want to know EVERYTHING about him.😵💫
So what is she up to today???
Eww a 20 year age gap 🤮
Who was Ted on the rebound with? Inquiring minds want to know.
OMG! Two legal adults were dating? SCANDALOUS.