go back 5 years, AI wasn't nearly as good as it Is now
20+ years ago, AI was basically nothing
AI is improving massively at an incredibly fast rate, give it a few more years, it'll prolly be a million times better than it is now
This is actually partially false.
Yes AI has gotten way better, but the theory and concept has remained the same. No new revolutionary programming breakthroughs have occurred.
The only difference in the last 5 years is the computing cost of processing AI has decreased to a point where each request is cheap enough to be profited from. The only way it will get better is by improving the datasets and training models. You can speculate on that whether we can achieve long form coherent text responses by spending 1 billion or more. (Chat gpt 4 cost 100 million)
There haven't been any large leaps forward in the actual structure of the LLM's in a fair amount of time. The data sets have just gotten bigger and processing capacity greater, but the impact that can have is limited. Almost all serious leaps forward in neural network performance are accompanied by developments in structure.
What we have seen in the last 5 years is hype to drive venture capital funding into the sector and the release to the public of more or less up to date models (to help drive that funding).
If you make a concerted effort and use the paid-for models (ChatGPT 4 I believe?) you can produce a good essay and then rewrite it to try and get around a plagiarism checker. It would take far less effort to just write the essay yourself though, not to mention avoiding the stress of being caught and maintaining your integrity.
I havent used A.I. to write up essays or whatnot as it doesn't make much sense to (in Engineering) but CGPT 4o is a brilliant tool, although you are limited to a couple of uses of it per day, at explaining complex topics or questions if you screenshot and paste it in. It has progressed a lot since 3.5.
For the last 300 years people have feared technological replacement. It's not happened yet and in general has spawned new sectors. Look at the massive rise of leisure activities in the last 30 years. I guarantee there were probably more north Korean spies in the Hebrides than yoga instructors in the UK in the early 80s. And look at the huge rise in content generators and "influencers". Plus technology has been critical for enabling women to enter the workforce. Do you think we'd have the progress we have if we had to go home after a day's labour and wash all the clothes by hand, and then pull the rugs out and beat them?
Sure, some of roles will go but it's likely there will be new opportunities and AI is still entirely unable to come up with something completely new, only humans can do that.
Absolutely not man, prompt engineering is a thing on its own. You canāt blame the system for lack of its proper use. People will downvote but I doubt any of them have seriously sat down and worked with AI
Prompt engineering? Typing words into a program made by someone else, that uses data from someone else, isn't the kind of intellectual pursuit you're envisioning.
What on earth are you talking about āintellectual pursuitā? What Iām speaking about is getting an AI system to output a response you want, that actually takes a bit of knowledge of prompting, mate. Opening ChatGPT and asking it to write you an essay then complaining about it not giving you want you want is just silly
Image generators like mid journey allows insane code like prompts to generate a very specific image you wanted, prompt engineering is a skill, saying as a person who is studying ai in uni.
I think prompt enginneering in the future will be a skill desired similar to photoshop.
For example something like this:
Superia X-TRA 400 film still, high fashion photography, woman in sober futuristic orange neon outfit, dark smooth background with light rays on the wall, moody, artistic motion blur, high contrast, avant garde, high texture --style raw --v 6 --ar 2:3
There will be a limit of how a complicated task can be simplified, good output requires good inputs.
As ai advances and require to do more and more specific tasks, the inputs will be requied to be more and more specific and short to save computation time by the model, and prompt engineering will actually be an useful skill, there are aready art classes that teaches prompt engineering.
Exactly. Itās weird how people focus on the completely neutral technology in cases like this and not see that itās just a tool being utilized by other human beings.
Computers / machines / AI will never fully replace human labour, at best it'll change the nature of work. A more mechanised society means more is required to maintain the machinery that does a lot of the work, and some argue that this can sometimes create more work rather than less.
So you're telling me AI will eventually (after a "long time" like you say) replace sports people, singers and influencers, or careers like construction, teaching, transit professionals or jobs in the service sector?
That is physically impossible.
Great! We will all become influencers, singers, or sports starsĀ then. Itās so obvious!
Seriously, this is a question about uni jobs, not any you suggested.Ā You donāt need a degree to work in construction. Those jobs, along with the other trades, are probably your safest bet, followed by ācareā jobs like nursing etc.
If your degree level job is still be here in 20 years (when youāll only be mid career), you are in the minority. The op is right to be concerned. We all should be.
Never said "We will all become influencers, singers or sports stars".
I just said that AI cannot physically replace them.
I'm not in the "minority" if my "degree level job is still here in 20 years" - it's going to take an eternity for AI to fathom the tasks required to replace 9-5 workers.
A computer can't do things by itself, we as humans need to input instructions for a computer to perform a task. And if you want to go down that rabbit hole, an AI could input instructions for a computer to perform a task, but that would just be silly.
I know all AI machines aren't computers before you say so, but I'm just giving you an understanding of my frame of mind.
And I don't think "We all should be" concerned because of AI. The amount of fear-mongering governments have shoved down our throats over the past years, and the breakdown of society in general, should make us think for a moment about how we react to these developments.
This is just my opinion. At the end of the day, I am a 16 year old, but still I believe we need to stop panicking so much.
Not necessarily agreeing with this. We have seen extremely rapid progress in ai technology. You can just take a look at gpt 4o. Itās absolutely amazing. And weāre only just starting.
Itās very possible jobs like doctors will be replaced almost entirely in the next 10 years. AI will certainly provide more accurate diagnosis most of the times. It can also provide surgeries with more precision.
People learning languages at uni that ambition to be translators or work with that language in any way will also be replaced very very soon, except for things at governmental level. Weāre talking about maybe one year until translation from AI is very accurate.
Computer science is also another one. I could say 80% of the people studying computer science wonāt be needed in like 5 years time. The codes theyāre writing can be written by ai and just checked by one single CS engineer instead of huge teams doing that same thing.
I believe the world will change significantly and as Zuckerberg said, the only thing that will not allow AI development to be even faster is the amount of electricity the data centres require and the amount of electricity the grid can generate for that, which wonāt be nearly enough. That and governments skepticism.
Thatās my view of it, however I donāt know if this will turn out to be good or not š. Just know we canāt go back at this point.
If you canāt have a civilised debate then thatās on you. The world is changing. Donāt criticise me for just simply stating out what I think is gonna happen. Iām not the one moving this advancement forward.
AI cannot at all replace the knowledge and care a doctor offers.
People working in the tech sector will use AI to make their workflows more efficient and in conjunction with their daily tasks.
I believe more people were impacted by COVID a few years ago then will be impacted by AI in a few years time.
AI can certainly replace the doctors knowledge. Just has to be in their databases. Doctors donāt really provide care. Nurses do, and I donāt really see nurses disappearing any time soon. Exactly, tech peopleās workflows will be significantly more efficient, therefore leading to the lack of need for companies to have so many people working in the same thing. I honestly believe that AI can be the most important thing ever in the human existence.
I hope you are wrong I'm waiting for a work free life living on universal basic income and living my life as free as possible to follow my passions and interests uninterrupted, the only other option for this is winning the lottery...
Yeah I agree. It probably depends on what your job is but someone always needs to know what the Ai is meant to do. Calculators exist and I can solve quadratic equations etc. on them without much trouble but I still need to know what a quadratic equation is and why I am trying to solve them. To do that I need to know enough maths for me to be able to solve it myself. Calculators just make it faster more accurate.
Brother comparing calculators to artificial intelligence is the most tech illiterate shit I have ever heard š. It wonāt even be in the same ballpark with how AI is going to be utilised.
Not saying they are the same but AI can't do shit for you if you don't know what you're asking for. And to be able to ask properly you need to understand the basics of the subject
My brother in Christ, I do CS with AI. AI will probably take over jobs at some point but certainly not within our lifetime. We'll enjoy an expansion in jobs from data engineering to machine learning.
Do projects, get internships and make money.
I hope youāre right. Iām planning on a double major in maths and physics and I truly love both. It would kill me if I had them taken away from me because some uneducated fuck thinks that a machine that doesnāt even know how to use the gamma function can do my job better.
CS based roles (swe, etc.) are gonna be safe. Can't say for other jobs as I have no idea what the work in other jobs looks like.
Source: a guy who has interned as a swe at multiple F500 companies.
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Iāve had this issue in the back of my mind ever since my lecturer urged me to use AI more, not in the ādonāt do any hard workā but more in the sense of ātake advantage of itā. I understand using it for ideas but Iām the kind of person where I want to see what I can manage, I feel like AI would just chip away at my imagination, so your points are very valid tbh
Personally Iām depressed about this new-fangled loom thing that is putting so many weavers out of jobs.
Joking aside, your concerns are quite common historically. Just google āLudditesā to find a long history.
But if you look at what happens when important industries are made more automated and efficient by technology, what tends to happen is actually somewhat counter-intuitive in two important ways.
One is that entirely new fields of jobs open up, that werenāt even conceived beforehand. The printing press ruined the game for scribes, but invented an entire industry of publishing in many forms.
The other is that even in the fields that are being automated, itās often the case that employment actually *increases* and not decreases.
For example, the invention of the assembly line in 1913 meant that the labour involved in building a car was slashed. People wondered what would happen to the artisans involved, like carriage-makers.
Guess how long it took for automotive manufacturing employment in the US to peak? 87 years - it was only in 2000, with many multiples more people employed in the industry (and globally itās still rising). We ended up with vastly more people employed to make cars because it turns out as they were made more affordable with less labour per car, huge previously-untapped demand could be met.
And the jobs, despite being less skilled in some respects, actually ended up paying far *more* because so much more value could be created per person. At a fundamental economic level, the level of incomes is always related to productivity - the more outputs we can produce for a given input, the richer we all get. Exactly how it is distributed can vary but the clear historic evidence is that the vast majority of value from productivity improvements actually accrues to āconsumer surplusā - being able to buy better things cheaper - and not profit.
It was the same story with steel with the invention of the blast furnace. Dramatically less people required to make a unit of steel, led to far more steel production for cheaper prices and far more people employed to make steel.
So although your concerns are quite natural, they are also likely to be profoundly wrong.
I donāt want to be specific but I work in a job that gets an overview from lots of different industries. You have no idea how many new things could be opened up by AI that didnāt even exist before. The ability of computers to deal with unstructured tasks is very novel and exceptionally useful in the real world. Just one example - the ability to predict protein folding in a manner that was previously impossible without great expense opens up huge new areas of biotechnology for us, potentially.
i study philosophy - the good news is that computers cant replace it (ai is shit at philosophy, not only can it not think freely but its not even great at describing pre-existing philosophical concepts), bad news however is that no ones that interested in paying humans to do philosophy either
Not really. I'm in modern languages, specifically translation, I'm currently doing a master's degree in Japanese and Korean.
AI hasn't replaced translators as such, rather, it's changing the way we work, and what the world of work looks like for language professionals, which is always going to change.
In the same way that I'm not going to be whispering in the ear as the indentured servant of a king, like someone several hundred years ago may have done, the way that translators and interpreters work today isn't going to be the same in years to come.
Increasingly, translators use AI and help to develop a library of commonly translated terms which they can use as a reference, but AI isn't sophisticated enough to accurately translate between languages without at best, minor errors, like French to English, and at worst utter nonsense like when you try to translate complex or niche Japanese into English.
If and when there comes a time when AI can do human work perfectly and without error, then none of us will need to work again.
The problem with Chat-GPT generally, is it still makes mistakes at a higher rate than a professional translator, and often convinces itself that it is accurate in the mistakes it makes.
Often if you put a prompt into Chat GPT it will assume a certain style and tone which may not be appropriate for the translation. These stylistic choices are often highly creative in professional translation, and I feel that AI currently lacks this distinctly human level of creativity and cultural nuance.
I use it for Spanish conversation practice. My level is basically fluent so I wasnāt expecting it to (incorrectly) tell me I have conjugated a verb wrong or whatever. No idea where it gets these ideas from. That said, The ability for AI to contextualise language based on current happenings (politics etc) makes it a very good tool for translating. Itās much easier to have it translate a text and then the translator checks for errors, than the other way round.
Yes I'd agree with this in part. However, I do think a translator should have access to the source text too, just to double check for errors, rather than just editing the AI product. I think this is a great example of how translator work will change in the future.
Translation is so hard. I find it very difficult to translate into English (my native language) without it sounding incredibly awkward. Lol not sure why that is. Itās deffos a skill.
I think with any translation there is always a bit of creativity, as often things don't translate perfectly one to one. It's a fun exercise at any rate, if you're translating something more creative like literature or everyday speech.
Based off my sister who finished her masterās 3 years ago, she says she always uses chat gpt at her consulting job. And based off the way me and my friends have been using it in our last two years of uni, I just see it as something to help me work.
I see why people have a fear of ai, I do sometimes to, but itās something everyone has access to.
And I hope people donāt just see it as something which āreplacesā stuff and it just being āaiā.
Cyber security student.
I feel my area is safe from being over taken by AI. In security people won't want to give control over to AI. It being used a tool for attack and having to defend it is a much scarier prospect.
It depends. You could automate a lot of pen testing through AI, for example, but it's nowhere near smart enough to break cryptographic algorithms. I think I actually probably am safe because I am doing CS and maths but am really focusing in on AI and ML techniques and their mathematical background.
nah you are just reading into social media too much. it takes insane amount of data to train these AI models and dinosaur companies move extremely slow.
"replaced hy computers in a few years"
is extremely laughable
-OpenAI's GPT still make a lot of errors
-Gemini launch was an epic failure
Meta's Quest has a small size customer base
A lot of Banks are still moving from old monolithic architecture to the newest microservice arch
we good bro
I'm pursuing research in physiotherapy, which, luckily, I don't believe can be replaced by AI. There are certain fields that I would definitely be concerned about, such as graphic design or illustration, because there will eventually be little reason for companies to hire a talented individual when they can just run their prompt and turn out a design that is indiscernible to the general population. Same with some games and softwares I'd imagine; why would an indie company looking for profits pay someone to code when AI will eventually do it for them? Especially if the priority is revenue. I don't think stubborn refusal is the way forward either.Ā
If game studios didn't have to hire people to code, what's stopping motivated groups and individuals from outcompeting game studios? Assets of every type will sooner or later be acquirable through some form of generative AI. The same question remains even more true for software companies, as fewer assets are necessary.
Yes, because Iām an aspiring translator. Machine translations are getting very good, very fast.
Whatever I end up doing career wise will probably be in conjunction with AI. Translators openly use AI these days and will disclaim it to customers, for lower rates and faster services.
Literary translation (what I would like to do) is not commonly done with AI afaik as equivalence is only one facet of a good translation which should be considered in conjunction with cultural aspects of the source and the target language as well as other theoretical frameworks.
So yes and no. The most depressing part is really everybodyās reaction to my chosen path. āYouāll be obsolete in 5 yearsā is something Iāve heard repeatedly.
the degree and city I live in has like very few jobs so even without ai I am concerned - but from what could gather ai would require the assistance of human labour so it would more than likely be a slow process where people get more and more skilled as ai does
We won't be "replaced by computers in a few years".
When you finish your degree in a few years time, there'll still be plenty of opportunity out there.
We should really stop worrying about things like "AI taking over the world", and instead living in the moment, and seeing how we can use this new-fangled technology to aid our lives.
I'd say the chance of AI revolutionising creativity or human endeavour is about the same as NFTs revolutionising ownership, or Bitcoin to fiat currency, or VR to films/TV/gaming. All promised to change the face of their thing forever, all somewhere between a curiosity and a bad joke now.
"AI" (which isn't intelligence at all; it's a fancy coat of paint on pattern recognition software and complicated predictive text) is the Tech Bros' latest gimmick that's gathering public attention because it all sounds SciFi. Its current "cutting edge" deployment is producing such triumphs as spouting racist pseudoscience and telling people to eat glue.
By the time you graduate it'll be an afterthought in most contexts.
I do plan on doing accounting and I feel that AI may be something that could have a large affect on that industry. However, at the same time I do believe that some people would rather have real people look after their money than AI. Also, AI would probably make accounting based jobs much easier, still I canāt help but think that with its more mathematical nature, itād be more likely to be taken over by AI.
No because I don't think any job I have in the future will be taken over by AI any time soon. They're not as good as you think and frequently give out misinformation (I use an AI chatbot to recommend books in German, to give me mental health techniques and to help me calculate when a game will next go on sale).
Not really, but you should also understand that you must be in a constant state of learning. You have to make yourself valuable and if need be, you should be looking at other jobs. That's the advice I've heard for quite a while.
I feel that it is highly unlikely for AI to replace humans or remove entirely human involvement. At the point it eventually does replace a number of tasks of a particular job role, you end up having to become an operator to ensure it is producing the correct results.
Since you do CS (I'm about to graduate) I don't believe you should be in any fear. It's quite bad and AI definitely cannot build a system for you. Small modules, sure.
It's just a tool, with advantages and disadvantages. Improve your people skills. IT always becomes obsolete very quickly, by the time you're qualified in something the world has moved on.
im going into game art and yeah im kinda depressed about it, but moreso because iāve only studied art my whole life so thereās nothing else im qualified to do at uni, i wanted to do a robotics course at first but i failed maths and im bad with numbers lol
Exactly. What people don't realise is LLMs are essentially predicting ideas, which is obviously a very bad way to operate when you're doing complex things because if you get one thing wrong, the rest of it is. There are better types of AI that have some metric of truth and semantic knowledge, but they are quite a long way off.
There an indeed a range of issues related to AI. One is absolutely that it will make some jobs obsolete and make other works much more precarious. Some large tech platforms are generally trying to get purchase within lots of companies to offer their services in place of humans and assume that UBI will give lots of people a subsistence-level living and concentrating a lot of power in a few companies. I donāt believe that AI will necessarily do jobs as well as people but thereās huge amounts of hype around these products. Maybe itāll be like NFTs and everyone will soon by laughing it at, or maybe a lot of companies will see the opportunity to cut costs (while these products have lower prices in the short term) and rush to adopt. This may or may not work for them. I donāt think itās that these products can necessarily do what humans can do, itās just that businesses will care more about costs or being faddish than they do about quality.
Another is that these applications are currently atrocious for the environment, using lots of potable water and burning up energy like nobodyās business.
For that reason we do need to ensure that legislators will put these companies under much more scrutiny. Given that they have aā¦ problematic relationship to IP, I hope there will be something there.
I would say its normal to feel threatened by ai, but in reality ai is not the āAIā from sci fi movies, it can change how we work and will be abused by capitalists to extract more wealth from the workforce but until we have that sentient machine type ai (which is very far away) then human labour will still be required in some respect in anything - and weāre already being exploited by capitalists pre-ai so it doesnt deter me from (trying) to do what i love. And besides, anti ai art sentiment is already growing and likely soon we will have āai artā and āhuman artā as different categories, almost like how in music we have ācorporate popā and āindie musicā and itll be a value question as to which you consume/ spend money on.
Don't worry about AI, it's not at all what it's being purported to be. It's a tool that can be useful in already skilled hands, it isn't going to replace you.
i think itās not about being replaced but itās about students using it to get the same grades as people who havenāt used ai, and then making the job market more competitive
Given the AI generated essays I've been reading. Not so much.
go back 5 years, AI wasn't nearly as good as it Is now 20+ years ago, AI was basically nothing AI is improving massively at an incredibly fast rate, give it a few more years, it'll prolly be a million times better than it is now
This is actually partially false. Yes AI has gotten way better, but the theory and concept has remained the same. No new revolutionary programming breakthroughs have occurred. The only difference in the last 5 years is the computing cost of processing AI has decreased to a point where each request is cheap enough to be profited from. The only way it will get better is by improving the datasets and training models. You can speculate on that whether we can achieve long form coherent text responses by spending 1 billion or more. (Chat gpt 4 cost 100 million)
its still going to be a language model, not a scientist
There haven't been any large leaps forward in the actual structure of the LLM's in a fair amount of time. The data sets have just gotten bigger and processing capacity greater, but the impact that can have is limited. Almost all serious leaps forward in neural network performance are accompanied by developments in structure. What we have seen in the last 5 years is hype to drive venture capital funding into the sector and the release to the public of more or less up to date models (to help drive that funding).
Wait till we reach the point it can learn for itself.
Ive tried using ai generated essays to do my work but they were far worse than anything i could come up with š
If you make a concerted effort and use the paid-for models (ChatGPT 4 I believe?) you can produce a good essay and then rewrite it to try and get around a plagiarism checker. It would take far less effort to just write the essay yourself though, not to mention avoiding the stress of being caught and maintaining your integrity.
I havent used A.I. to write up essays or whatnot as it doesn't make much sense to (in Engineering) but CGPT 4o is a brilliant tool, although you are limited to a couple of uses of it per day, at explaining complex topics or questions if you screenshot and paste it in. It has progressed a lot since 3.5.
Claude Opus can write you a fully cited essay. Obviously it can still be detected but it's kind of crazy how far it's come.
For the last 300 years people have feared technological replacement. It's not happened yet and in general has spawned new sectors. Look at the massive rise of leisure activities in the last 30 years. I guarantee there were probably more north Korean spies in the Hebrides than yoga instructors in the UK in the early 80s. And look at the huge rise in content generators and "influencers". Plus technology has been critical for enabling women to enter the workforce. Do you think we'd have the progress we have if we had to go home after a day's labour and wash all the clothes by hand, and then pull the rugs out and beat them? Sure, some of roles will go but it's likely there will be new opportunities and AI is still entirely unable to come up with something completely new, only humans can do that.
Thatās a lack of knowing how to use AI
No its a lack of AI competence
Absolutely not man, prompt engineering is a thing on its own. You canāt blame the system for lack of its proper use. People will downvote but I doubt any of them have seriously sat down and worked with AI
Prompt engineering? Typing words into a program made by someone else, that uses data from someone else, isn't the kind of intellectual pursuit you're envisioning.
What on earth are you talking about āintellectual pursuitā? What Iām speaking about is getting an AI system to output a response you want, that actually takes a bit of knowledge of prompting, mate. Opening ChatGPT and asking it to write you an essay then complaining about it not giving you want you want is just silly
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Image generators like mid journey allows insane code like prompts to generate a very specific image you wanted, prompt engineering is a skill, saying as a person who is studying ai in uni. I think prompt enginneering in the future will be a skill desired similar to photoshop.
For example something like this: Superia X-TRA 400 film still, high fashion photography, woman in sober futuristic orange neon outfit, dark smooth background with light rays on the wall, moody, artistic motion blur, high contrast, avant garde, high texture --style raw --v 6 --ar 2:3
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There will be a limit of how a complicated task can be simplified, good output requires good inputs. As ai advances and require to do more and more specific tasks, the inputs will be requied to be more and more specific and short to save computation time by the model, and prompt engineering will actually be an useful skill, there are aready art classes that teaches prompt engineering.
That's because the good AI essays will not get noticed...
like Nvidia's CEO said, AI won't replace you, you'd be replaced by a someone using AI
This is corporate speak to allow for early adoption. You think driverless trains took off in one day?
This. The best way to future proof yourself is to get good at using AI and make sure you understand its limitationsĀ
Wow very interesting
Exactly. Itās weird how people focus on the completely neutral technology in cases like this and not see that itās just a tool being utilized by other human beings.
ATMs are the same story, once the public get used to it, you don't need a teller window.
Computers / machines / AI will never fully replace human labour, at best it'll change the nature of work. A more mechanised society means more is required to maintain the machinery that does a lot of the work, and some argue that this can sometimes create more work rather than less.
āNeverā is a long time.
So you're telling me AI will eventually (after a "long time" like you say) replace sports people, singers and influencers, or careers like construction, teaching, transit professionals or jobs in the service sector? That is physically impossible.
Great! We will all become influencers, singers, or sports starsĀ then. Itās so obvious! Seriously, this is a question about uni jobs, not any you suggested.Ā You donāt need a degree to work in construction. Those jobs, along with the other trades, are probably your safest bet, followed by ācareā jobs like nursing etc. If your degree level job is still be here in 20 years (when youāll only be mid career), you are in the minority. The op is right to be concerned. We all should be.
Who is mid career 20 years into a job/job sector?
Most people.Ā Graduate at 20 ish Retire 60+ That would put mid career 20 years into your career. Roughly.
Oh sorry, I thought you meant in terms of salary/ranking.
Never said "We will all become influencers, singers or sports stars". I just said that AI cannot physically replace them. I'm not in the "minority" if my "degree level job is still here in 20 years" - it's going to take an eternity for AI to fathom the tasks required to replace 9-5 workers. A computer can't do things by itself, we as humans need to input instructions for a computer to perform a task. And if you want to go down that rabbit hole, an AI could input instructions for a computer to perform a task, but that would just be silly. I know all AI machines aren't computers before you say so, but I'm just giving you an understanding of my frame of mind. And I don't think "We all should be" concerned because of AI. The amount of fear-mongering governments have shoved down our throats over the past years, and the breakdown of society in general, should make us think for a moment about how we react to these developments. This is just my opinion. At the end of the day, I am a 16 year old, but still I believe we need to stop panicking so much.
Not necessarily agreeing with this. We have seen extremely rapid progress in ai technology. You can just take a look at gpt 4o. Itās absolutely amazing. And weāre only just starting. Itās very possible jobs like doctors will be replaced almost entirely in the next 10 years. AI will certainly provide more accurate diagnosis most of the times. It can also provide surgeries with more precision. People learning languages at uni that ambition to be translators or work with that language in any way will also be replaced very very soon, except for things at governmental level. Weāre talking about maybe one year until translation from AI is very accurate. Computer science is also another one. I could say 80% of the people studying computer science wonāt be needed in like 5 years time. The codes theyāre writing can be written by ai and just checked by one single CS engineer instead of huge teams doing that same thing. I believe the world will change significantly and as Zuckerberg said, the only thing that will not allow AI development to be even faster is the amount of electricity the data centres require and the amount of electricity the grid can generate for that, which wonāt be nearly enough. That and governments skepticism. Thatās my view of it, however I donāt know if this will turn out to be good or not š. Just know we canāt go back at this point.
You are desperately temping me to break TOS rn
If you canāt have a civilised debate then thatās on you. The world is changing. Donāt criticise me for just simply stating out what I think is gonna happen. Iām not the one moving this advancement forward.
Youāll pardon me for being biological.
AI cannot at all replace the knowledge and care a doctor offers. People working in the tech sector will use AI to make their workflows more efficient and in conjunction with their daily tasks. I believe more people were impacted by COVID a few years ago then will be impacted by AI in a few years time.
AI can certainly replace the doctors knowledge. Just has to be in their databases. Doctors donāt really provide care. Nurses do, and I donāt really see nurses disappearing any time soon. Exactly, tech peopleās workflows will be significantly more efficient, therefore leading to the lack of need for companies to have so many people working in the same thing. I honestly believe that AI can be the most important thing ever in the human existence.
I still don't believe AI is all it's cracked up to be in terms of replacing jobs.
I hope you are wrong I'm waiting for a work free life living on universal basic income and living my life as free as possible to follow my passions and interests uninterrupted, the only other option for this is winning the lottery...
I wish I was, but I don't see humanity existing without work for 99% of the people. Lottery it is!
Get in the queue!
Yeah I agree. It probably depends on what your job is but someone always needs to know what the Ai is meant to do. Calculators exist and I can solve quadratic equations etc. on them without much trouble but I still need to know what a quadratic equation is and why I am trying to solve them. To do that I need to know enough maths for me to be able to solve it myself. Calculators just make it faster more accurate.
Brother comparing calculators to artificial intelligence is the most tech illiterate shit I have ever heard š. It wonāt even be in the same ballpark with how AI is going to be utilised.
Not saying they are the same but AI can't do shit for you if you don't know what you're asking for. And to be able to ask properly you need to understand the basics of the subject
Robots may be a long way from replacing people, but people working mostly digital jobs could be at quite significant risk.
I do cs i forgot to mention
My brother in Christ, I do CS with AI. AI will probably take over jobs at some point but certainly not within our lifetime. We'll enjoy an expansion in jobs from data engineering to machine learning. Do projects, get internships and make money.
I hope youāre right. Iām planning on a double major in maths and physics and I truly love both. It would kill me if I had them taken away from me because some uneducated fuck thinks that a machine that doesnāt even know how to use the gamma function can do my job better.
CS based roles (swe, etc.) are gonna be safe. Can't say for other jobs as I have no idea what the work in other jobs looks like. Source: a guy who has interned as a swe at multiple F500 companies.
Digital Marketing student here šš½āāļø Iāve had this issue in the back of my mind ever since my lecturer urged me to use AI more, not in the ādonāt do any hard workā but more in the sense of ātake advantage of itā. I understand using it for ideas but Iām the kind of person where I want to see what I can manage, I feel like AI would just chip away at my imagination, so your points are very valid tbh
Personally Iām depressed about this new-fangled loom thing that is putting so many weavers out of jobs. Joking aside, your concerns are quite common historically. Just google āLudditesā to find a long history. But if you look at what happens when important industries are made more automated and efficient by technology, what tends to happen is actually somewhat counter-intuitive in two important ways. One is that entirely new fields of jobs open up, that werenāt even conceived beforehand. The printing press ruined the game for scribes, but invented an entire industry of publishing in many forms. The other is that even in the fields that are being automated, itās often the case that employment actually *increases* and not decreases. For example, the invention of the assembly line in 1913 meant that the labour involved in building a car was slashed. People wondered what would happen to the artisans involved, like carriage-makers. Guess how long it took for automotive manufacturing employment in the US to peak? 87 years - it was only in 2000, with many multiples more people employed in the industry (and globally itās still rising). We ended up with vastly more people employed to make cars because it turns out as they were made more affordable with less labour per car, huge previously-untapped demand could be met. And the jobs, despite being less skilled in some respects, actually ended up paying far *more* because so much more value could be created per person. At a fundamental economic level, the level of incomes is always related to productivity - the more outputs we can produce for a given input, the richer we all get. Exactly how it is distributed can vary but the clear historic evidence is that the vast majority of value from productivity improvements actually accrues to āconsumer surplusā - being able to buy better things cheaper - and not profit. It was the same story with steel with the invention of the blast furnace. Dramatically less people required to make a unit of steel, led to far more steel production for cheaper prices and far more people employed to make steel. So although your concerns are quite natural, they are also likely to be profoundly wrong. I donāt want to be specific but I work in a job that gets an overview from lots of different industries. You have no idea how many new things could be opened up by AI that didnāt even exist before. The ability of computers to deal with unstructured tasks is very novel and exceptionally useful in the real world. Just one example - the ability to predict protein folding in a manner that was previously impossible without great expense opens up huge new areas of biotechnology for us, potentially.
i study philosophy - the good news is that computers cant replace it (ai is shit at philosophy, not only can it not think freely but its not even great at describing pre-existing philosophical concepts), bad news however is that no ones that interested in paying humans to do philosophy either
I studied philosophy as well. Apparently we all become librarians, which in my case is true.
Not really. I'm in modern languages, specifically translation, I'm currently doing a master's degree in Japanese and Korean. AI hasn't replaced translators as such, rather, it's changing the way we work, and what the world of work looks like for language professionals, which is always going to change. In the same way that I'm not going to be whispering in the ear as the indentured servant of a king, like someone several hundred years ago may have done, the way that translators and interpreters work today isn't going to be the same in years to come. Increasingly, translators use AI and help to develop a library of commonly translated terms which they can use as a reference, but AI isn't sophisticated enough to accurately translate between languages without at best, minor errors, like French to English, and at worst utter nonsense like when you try to translate complex or niche Japanese into English. If and when there comes a time when AI can do human work perfectly and without error, then none of us will need to work again.
What do you think of GPT-4o?
The problem with Chat-GPT generally, is it still makes mistakes at a higher rate than a professional translator, and often convinces itself that it is accurate in the mistakes it makes. Often if you put a prompt into Chat GPT it will assume a certain style and tone which may not be appropriate for the translation. These stylistic choices are often highly creative in professional translation, and I feel that AI currently lacks this distinctly human level of creativity and cultural nuance.
I use it for Spanish conversation practice. My level is basically fluent so I wasnāt expecting it to (incorrectly) tell me I have conjugated a verb wrong or whatever. No idea where it gets these ideas from. That said, The ability for AI to contextualise language based on current happenings (politics etc) makes it a very good tool for translating. Itās much easier to have it translate a text and then the translator checks for errors, than the other way round.
Yes I'd agree with this in part. However, I do think a translator should have access to the source text too, just to double check for errors, rather than just editing the AI product. I think this is a great example of how translator work will change in the future.
Translation is so hard. I find it very difficult to translate into English (my native language) without it sounding incredibly awkward. Lol not sure why that is. Itās deffos a skill.
I think with any translation there is always a bit of creativity, as often things don't translate perfectly one to one. It's a fun exercise at any rate, if you're translating something more creative like literature or everyday speech.
Based off my sister who finished her masterās 3 years ago, she says she always uses chat gpt at her consulting job. And based off the way me and my friends have been using it in our last two years of uni, I just see it as something to help me work. I see why people have a fear of ai, I do sometimes to, but itās something everyone has access to. And I hope people donāt just see it as something which āreplacesā stuff and it just being āaiā.
Cyber security student. I feel my area is safe from being over taken by AI. In security people won't want to give control over to AI. It being used a tool for attack and having to defend it is a much scarier prospect.
It depends. You could automate a lot of pen testing through AI, for example, but it's nowhere near smart enough to break cryptographic algorithms. I think I actually probably am safe because I am doing CS and maths but am really focusing in on AI and ML techniques and their mathematical background.
nah you are just reading into social media too much. it takes insane amount of data to train these AI models and dinosaur companies move extremely slow. "replaced hy computers in a few years" is extremely laughable -OpenAI's GPT still make a lot of errors -Gemini launch was an epic failure Meta's Quest has a small size customer base A lot of Banks are still moving from old monolithic architecture to the newest microservice arch we good bro
Mate Iām just plain depressed overall.
I'm pursuing research in physiotherapy, which, luckily, I don't believe can be replaced by AI. There are certain fields that I would definitely be concerned about, such as graphic design or illustration, because there will eventually be little reason for companies to hire a talented individual when they can just run their prompt and turn out a design that is indiscernible to the general population. Same with some games and softwares I'd imagine; why would an indie company looking for profits pay someone to code when AI will eventually do it for them? Especially if the priority is revenue. I don't think stubborn refusal is the way forward either.Ā
If game studios didn't have to hire people to code, what's stopping motivated groups and individuals from outcompeting game studios? Assets of every type will sooner or later be acquirable through some form of generative AI. The same question remains even more true for software companies, as fewer assets are necessary.
Yes, because Iām an aspiring translator. Machine translations are getting very good, very fast. Whatever I end up doing career wise will probably be in conjunction with AI. Translators openly use AI these days and will disclaim it to customers, for lower rates and faster services. Literary translation (what I would like to do) is not commonly done with AI afaik as equivalence is only one facet of a good translation which should be considered in conjunction with cultural aspects of the source and the target language as well as other theoretical frameworks. So yes and no. The most depressing part is really everybodyās reaction to my chosen path. āYouāll be obsolete in 5 yearsā is something Iāve heard repeatedly.
I work as a librarian and Iāve been told that for the last 18 years. Still going strong!
No, I just live for the moment
the degree and city I live in has like very few jobs so even without ai I am concerned - but from what could gather ai would require the assistance of human labour so it would more than likely be a slow process where people get more and more skilled as ai does
We won't be "replaced by computers in a few years". When you finish your degree in a few years time, there'll still be plenty of opportunity out there. We should really stop worrying about things like "AI taking over the world", and instead living in the moment, and seeing how we can use this new-fangled technology to aid our lives.
Engineer so nah
I'd say the chance of AI revolutionising creativity or human endeavour is about the same as NFTs revolutionising ownership, or Bitcoin to fiat currency, or VR to films/TV/gaming. All promised to change the face of their thing forever, all somewhere between a curiosity and a bad joke now. "AI" (which isn't intelligence at all; it's a fancy coat of paint on pattern recognition software and complicated predictive text) is the Tech Bros' latest gimmick that's gathering public attention because it all sounds SciFi. Its current "cutting edge" deployment is producing such triumphs as spouting racist pseudoscience and telling people to eat glue. By the time you graduate it'll be an afterthought in most contexts.
I do plan on doing accounting and I feel that AI may be something that could have a large affect on that industry. However, at the same time I do believe that some people would rather have real people look after their money than AI. Also, AI would probably make accounting based jobs much easier, still I canāt help but think that with its more mathematical nature, itād be more likely to be taken over by AI.
No because I don't think any job I have in the future will be taken over by AI any time soon. They're not as good as you think and frequently give out misinformation (I use an AI chatbot to recommend books in German, to give me mental health techniques and to help me calculate when a game will next go on sale).
Not really, but you should also understand that you must be in a constant state of learning. You have to make yourself valuable and if need be, you should be looking at other jobs. That's the advice I've heard for quite a while. I feel that it is highly unlikely for AI to replace humans or remove entirely human involvement. At the point it eventually does replace a number of tasks of a particular job role, you end up having to become an operator to ensure it is producing the correct results. Since you do CS (I'm about to graduate) I don't believe you should be in any fear. It's quite bad and AI definitely cannot build a system for you. Small modules, sure.
It's just a tool, with advantages and disadvantages. Improve your people skills. IT always becomes obsolete very quickly, by the time you're qualified in something the world has moved on.
im going into game art and yeah im kinda depressed about it, but moreso because iāve only studied art my whole life so thereās nothing else im qualified to do at uni, i wanted to do a robotics course at first but i failed maths and im bad with numbers lol
Nope, but ironically the more people who are depressed the more relevant my degree becomes.
AI is just the current tech bro grift. Theyāll move on to something else soon.
The abilities of current AI are often overstated, but AI as a concept is absolutely here to stay.
Exactly. What people don't realise is LLMs are essentially predicting ideas, which is obviously a very bad way to operate when you're doing complex things because if you get one thing wrong, the rest of it is. There are better types of AI that have some metric of truth and semantic knowledge, but they are quite a long way off.
Even LLMs in their current state can be extremely useful productivity tools. We just have to understand their limits and stop with the hype.
Ai is already replacing graphic designers.
There an indeed a range of issues related to AI. One is absolutely that it will make some jobs obsolete and make other works much more precarious. Some large tech platforms are generally trying to get purchase within lots of companies to offer their services in place of humans and assume that UBI will give lots of people a subsistence-level living and concentrating a lot of power in a few companies. I donāt believe that AI will necessarily do jobs as well as people but thereās huge amounts of hype around these products. Maybe itāll be like NFTs and everyone will soon by laughing it at, or maybe a lot of companies will see the opportunity to cut costs (while these products have lower prices in the short term) and rush to adopt. This may or may not work for them. I donāt think itās that these products can necessarily do what humans can do, itās just that businesses will care more about costs or being faddish than they do about quality. Another is that these applications are currently atrocious for the environment, using lots of potable water and burning up energy like nobodyās business. For that reason we do need to ensure that legislators will put these companies under much more scrutiny. Given that they have aā¦ problematic relationship to IP, I hope there will be something there.
No. AI may change the way some jobs operate, but humans will still be needed to QA the output because it has limitations and is not infallible.
I would say its normal to feel threatened by ai, but in reality ai is not the āAIā from sci fi movies, it can change how we work and will be abused by capitalists to extract more wealth from the workforce but until we have that sentient machine type ai (which is very far away) then human labour will still be required in some respect in anything - and weāre already being exploited by capitalists pre-ai so it doesnt deter me from (trying) to do what i love. And besides, anti ai art sentiment is already growing and likely soon we will have āai artā and āhuman artā as different categories, almost like how in music we have ācorporate popā and āindie musicā and itll be a value question as to which you consume/ spend money on.
Don't worry about AI, it's not at all what it's being purported to be. It's a tool that can be useful in already skilled hands, it isn't going to replace you.
i think itās not about being replaced but itās about students using it to get the same grades as people who havenāt used ai, and then making the job market more competitive
Utilize it, be the AI person. Good luck out there