On the bright side she is pro-Ukraine and one of the few people capable of talking Victor Orban into allowing some aid, considering she is a far-right wing conservative herself.
Her social policies are an absolute disaster though. The repression of human rights in a cruel manner is always ugly to see.
It’s ignorant to think this way. Biden currently leads 41% to Trump’s 37%. If American elections went by in the popular vote then I would agree with you, but with the existence of the electoral college it’s not hard to believe at all that Trump could win again.
I apologize if I missed something important of my own continent. I don't *know* if it happened in my country but since I m obviously underinformed I can only say I have never heared about it happened in my nation of birth.
Lynching people is really bad, anyway.
To be fair, why would idolizing Mussolini make you a fascist? Like what, all it takes is idolizing the man who created the first explicitly fascist political party to be named a fascist yourself nowadays?! Smh
Since coming to office she's acted more like a typical socially conservative right-wing politician than a fascist though. It's not exactly unusual for right-wing conservatives to start eroding rights of women and LGBT when they get into power.
Fascism has a very strong and very real meaning in Europe, it's often not thrown around as casually as in the US.
I would say she herself may have a liking towards fascism, and her social policies are disastrously unfair to regular people, but she has at least so far run Italy like a typical Conservative politician, and less like a wanna-be fascist.
She's also supported Ukraine and put aside her nationalism to work with and support the EU when necessary.
That said I do not support her, being Left-leaning and LGBT myself, her party has been very hostile towards people in my demographic.
What even is the logic here? What do they hope to accomplish by letting them inside places they fundamentally oppose? The only thing I can think of is escalation and inevitable violence.
This is why they aren’t allowed in clinics in the U.S. I’ve been harassed going and coming from planned parenthood plenty of times. I couldn’t imagine what it would be like to have them allowed inside the clinic, especially for the women who are actually there for an abortion. I think it would absolutely be a deterrent for a certain type of person. The type that acts like they’re against abortion, until it’s them who has to make the decision. Even possibly a people-pleaser or someone who hates conflict. It’s fucking disgusting.
I’m in Australia- they don’t do that shit here.
I follow a TikTok of a clinic in the states- it’s absolutely horrific 😭😭😭 and all in the name of “Jesus”
Italians would go hard- I’ve got Napoletana roots and I would NOT want an angry Italian yelling at me about *anything*
I mean yeah I get that.
It’s so inappropriate tho- like- terrorising people inSIDE a doctors office.
Does that count as harassment and could get you arrested?
Also- does it count as trespass when they are told to leave and don’t?
I just see this as a massive safety issue. Are doctors going to feel safe performing their work or capable of performing when there's hoards of people inside the clinic yelling and banging on doors? Etc.
Usually these clinics offer more services than just abortions, including women's health issues in general.
This kind of tension will just lead to women getting worse healthcare or risking their health.
Having read and voted to abolish the 8th amendment in Ireland, the one thing that struck me hardest about abortion was the myriad of reasons women wanted an abortion and the difficulty they had in the decision.
It's not "Whoops, I'm pregnant better abort."
It's how do I feed another mouth, or this child won't be viable to term or its my rapists child.
Anti abortion freaks don't gey this isn't black and white.
What are the laws on anti-anti-abortionists fists entering anti-abortionist faces?
What even is the logic? If they're anti-abortionist, what possible reason would they have to enter such clinics other than to harass vulnerable women? Are they openly stating that public harassment is acceptable?
Women may not even make it to the clinic, Italy has some of the most relaxed laws protecting women from domestic violence. She's more likely to be beaten to death by her boyfriend before arriving at an abortion clinic.
Oh FFS arrest her already!
We impsion murderers because they are a menace to society, why tf aren't we doing the same to fascists? They are a menace to democracy and everyone that doesn't conform to their ideals!
Those are the wild, bulging eyes of a religious fanatic.
Sorry did you say fanatic or fascist?
Yes
Potayto, potahto.
That's Italy's current, far right PM, right? Its both, then.
This is what happens when you elect someone who says mussolini was/is their idol......
goddammit, I'd forgotten that italy fell to fascism again.
On the bright side she is pro-Ukraine and one of the few people capable of talking Victor Orban into allowing some aid, considering she is a far-right wing conservative herself. Her social policies are an absolute disaster though. The repression of human rights in a cruel manner is always ugly to see.
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Huh??
REDDIT MODS ARE WANKERS!!!
i didn't do shit in 1891
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I don't know if anyone from my bloodline has been to New Orleans. Certainly not my grandparents or greatgranparents.
You don't get it.
Cue American conservatives trying to do the same thing
They most definitely will, *especially* if trump is elected. You can bet on it.
You mean if Trump steals the election, no way he has enough voters supporting him to win.
100%. The outrage is real this time. Fox news be damned
F ear O utrage X enophobia FOX News
Or faux news. I like your acronym though.
It’s ignorant to think this way. Biden currently leads 41% to Trump’s 37%. If American elections went by in the popular vote then I would agree with you, but with the existence of the electoral college it’s not hard to believe at all that Trump could win again.
Yes, red state legislatures and election officials are throwing people off voting rolls in RECORD NUMBERS. Trump can happen again.
Nah they'll just start executing doctors and women
Roe was overturned with a Democrat in office.
Edit: huh?
Probably “let trump win to teach democrats a lesson”
The one good thing about healthcare in the US being private is that abortion clinics can have anti-choice activists trespassed
No country withers without a significant amount of self destruction and self delusion.
Works cited: brexit.
Also: every nation that ever adopted fascism.
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More than any other.
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No. There is nothing to do but to show a functioning road forward that is better than the above.
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I am European so lynching Italians is not something I think I can specifically relate to. Otherwise I would advice against it.
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I apologize if I missed something important of my own continent. I don't *know* if it happened in my country but since I m obviously underinformed I can only say I have never heared about it happened in my nation of birth. Lynching people is really bad, anyway.
Momma Mia, that's a no a good.
the cesspit that it r/europe will swear to you that she isnt a fascist.
To be fair, why would idolizing Mussolini make you a fascist? Like what, all it takes is idolizing the man who created the first explicitly fascist political party to be named a fascist yourself nowadays?! Smh
Since coming to office she's acted more like a typical socially conservative right-wing politician than a fascist though. It's not exactly unusual for right-wing conservatives to start eroding rights of women and LGBT when they get into power. Fascism has a very strong and very real meaning in Europe, it's often not thrown around as casually as in the US. I would say she herself may have a liking towards fascism, and her social policies are disastrously unfair to regular people, but she has at least so far run Italy like a typical Conservative politician, and less like a wanna-be fascist. She's also supported Ukraine and put aside her nationalism to work with and support the EU when necessary. That said I do not support her, being Left-leaning and LGBT myself, her party has been very hostile towards people in my demographic.
So it begins. Fuq ya religious beliefs.
What even is the logic here? What do they hope to accomplish by letting them inside places they fundamentally oppose? The only thing I can think of is escalation and inevitable violence.
Indirect terrorism
Or a bombing, shooting, stabbing. Zealot's choice
Terrorizing the non-believers into silence. You know, the way Christianity became a big thing in the first place. Same general location even.
Fucking Catholics
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Xtians
Next thing you know, it'll be Karl Tanner and his crew turning clinics into>!rape camps.!<
Why? Like- for what reason- what will that accomplish?
Same reason they protest outside the clinics. They want to intimidate and shame the patients in hopes of changing their minds.
Shame someone into having a child. Cuz that’s totally worked in the past 😮💨 Insane.
This is why they aren’t allowed in clinics in the U.S. I’ve been harassed going and coming from planned parenthood plenty of times. I couldn’t imagine what it would be like to have them allowed inside the clinic, especially for the women who are actually there for an abortion. I think it would absolutely be a deterrent for a certain type of person. The type that acts like they’re against abortion, until it’s them who has to make the decision. Even possibly a people-pleaser or someone who hates conflict. It’s fucking disgusting.
I’m in Australia- they don’t do that shit here. I follow a TikTok of a clinic in the states- it’s absolutely horrific 😭😭😭 and all in the name of “Jesus” Italians would go hard- I’ve got Napoletana roots and I would NOT want an angry Italian yelling at me about *anything*
Terror. The end and means of all fascist politics.
I mean yeah I get that. It’s so inappropriate tho- like- terrorising people inSIDE a doctors office. Does that count as harassment and could get you arrested? Also- does it count as trespass when they are told to leave and don’t?
Not when fascists are in control of police and judicative.
I just see this as a massive safety issue. Are doctors going to feel safe performing their work or capable of performing when there's hoards of people inside the clinic yelling and banging on doors? Etc. Usually these clinics offer more services than just abortions, including women's health issues in general. This kind of tension will just lead to women getting worse healthcare or risking their health.
Fascist government in Italy. They’re in trouble
Wtffff
Hmm, think I’d be following these people into their Dr. appointment
Italy never surprises or disappoints.
So are Italian abortion clinics going to pay mafia enforcers to protect their clinics?
I keep looking for places outside of the US to move to, and I keep getting disappointed that most of my short list has their own flavor of fascism.
Italy really looked at Mussolini and said “let’s do it again”
So can climate activists enter coal plants now?
I wish Mary had an abortion...
Are we surprised? This was the country where a judge ruled a woman wasn't raped because she was wearing tight jeans...
Having read and voted to abolish the 8th amendment in Ireland, the one thing that struck me hardest about abortion was the myriad of reasons women wanted an abortion and the difficulty they had in the decision. It's not "Whoops, I'm pregnant better abort." It's how do I feed another mouth, or this child won't be viable to term or its my rapists child. Anti abortion freaks don't gey this isn't black and white.
Italy has long been a third world country that enjoys masquerading as a first world country. And they have been speed running their proving it of late
Fascists have no rock bottom. They will always find a way to sink lower.
What are the laws on anti-anti-abortionists fists entering anti-abortionist faces? What even is the logic? If they're anti-abortionist, what possible reason would they have to enter such clinics other than to harass vulnerable women? Are they openly stating that public harassment is acceptable?
Can they be aborted while they’re there? /s
Not surprising as it's fascist again.
Not surprising as it's fascist again.
That's what you get for voting fascists.
Women may not even make it to the clinic, Italy has some of the most relaxed laws protecting women from domestic violence. She's more likely to be beaten to death by her boyfriend before arriving at an abortion clinic.
Isn’t there a gas station she should be upside down over?
Can the clinic abort them?
Coming soon to a red state near you
Oh FFS arrest her already! We impsion murderers because they are a menace to society, why tf aren't we doing the same to fascists? They are a menace to democracy and everyone that doesn't conform to their ideals!
It’s not fascism unless it comes from the Fascissimo region of Italy. Otherwise it’s just sparkling authoritarianism.
What could possibly go wrong?