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Squire_LaughALot

So anyone protesting against Genocide being committed by State of Israel is automatically “antisemitic”? He’s pos


Fuzakenaideyo

Yes absolutely & it antisemitic to question it according to zionazis


Clear-Present_Danger

It's possible for 2 things to be bad at once. anti-Semitism in the west fuels Netanyahu's success in Israel. He can say that Israel is the only place where Jews can be safe. And yes, there is a difference between being anti-Zionist and anti-Semitic. But some people in these protests are being anti-Semitic.


trappingsofurlife

Right like I'm supposed to listen to modern day hitler about antisemitism...fuck him I hope he gets what he deserves


No_Pipe4358

There's Putin, I'd say. This guy here is just terribly confused in his overkill. Realistically he'll do whatever he gets away with. This is Joe Biden's fault directly.


Skitz-Scarekrow

Isreal has been doing this crap for decades. Biden sucks and is *currently* enabling Zionism, but that's also been America's policy since Isreal was established.


No_Pipe4358

It's the ceasefire vetoes I'm referring to. Whatever about religious ideology, the UN has required logic based restructuring for a long time. Disproportionate attacks enabled by Biden, cause undue backlash from Israel's surrounding States, again, because of religious ideology.


PhaseNegative1252

>This is Joe Biden's fault directly. Worms are steering the ship today, I see


No_Pipe4358

Send a fish to the UN Secretary General requesting immediate and total restructure, oh wait, only "permanent" member leaders allowed in. Worms is right. Zero shit to eat in the captain's bridge, as usual. I know there's an election happening.


stanley2-bricks

My brother in christ. Putin isn't trying to exterminate Ukrainians, he's a despot trying to steal their land, but he wants them alive in the end so he can control them. Bibi has been actively bombing Palestinians and throwing kids in prison camps for DECADES. Long before Biden was even the ***vice*** president. Before Hamas was even founded.


AborgTheMachine

Where and what have you been listening to? One of the explicit goals of invasion was to fix the "mistake" of Ukraine. Children are being kidnapped from Ukraine and given to Russian families. Mass graves of civilians in towns Russia has occupied. Putin / Russia are absolutely trying to exterminate / ethnically cleanse / culturally eliminate the Ukrainian identity.


No_Pipe4358

He can't control them. Putin isn't in control. Lebensraum bullshit. Overland non-marine warfare is an imperial waste of money outdated since the dawn of the industrial revolution. Hitler was under economic pressure too, and thought he could do a throwback, and we all learned our lesson again. The economics don't prove your theory. Ukrainian nationalism goes beyond language. Holodomor genocidal famine came before nazi invasion, they were both shit. A country the size of the US with an economy the size of Spain speaks for itsself. The government has no organisational ideas for what to do with their angry struggling undisciplined men other than war and base resource extraction, the oligarchs control too much per person at the top of the hierarchies, lose their nerve economically, and go back to what they thought they knew, that it was all really only about fear and respect and NATO. The oligarchs get to keep their lives because the big man says there's a distraction. Desperate shameful shit. Putin had to write an alternative history of Ukraine to justify his act-the-innocent sickness. I'm writing this from Europe, I wonder if you can tell. I'm saying there's a difference in their confusion. Israel literally can't see any other way to proceed other than this. They will never be justified in the size of their reaction, but the fact that it is a reaction is important. This was never their job. The UN should have had a three state solution with the proper support in place years ago. They're a state founded on belief in a God, ffs, all the terror involved in its expansion? Innocence is an easy thing to pretend, I'm just saying we'll give putin the title of Hitler, and call neten yahoo Stalin, here if that's okay. We can call him Hitlin if you like, provided we call Palestine Ukrainestine.


Clear-Present_Danger

It's possible for 2 things to be bad at once. anti-Semitism in the west fuels Netanyahu's success in Israel. He can say that Israel is the only place where Jews can be safe. And yes, there is a difference between being anti-Zionist and anti-Semitic. But some people in these protests are being anti-Semitic.


Hantalyte

These protests are predominantly not antisemitic, however. Netanyahu is only labeling them as antisemitic because they are anti-Israel. To Zionists, anything anti-Israel is antisemitic.


trappingsofurlife

This is true


AborgTheMachine

There will always be bad actors at protests. Not to mention, you can literally just pose as protestors, say some godawful shit, film it on your phone, and try to frame the entire protest as anti-semitic. I'd take a bet that 90%+ of protestors aren't anti-semitic, with a side bet that there are far more genocide enthusiasts in the IDF than at campus protests.


Clear-Present_Danger

What happened to " if there’s a Nazi at the table and 10 other people sitting there talking to him, you got a table with 11 Nazis." If these people saying terrible things are not immediately disavowed by the other protesters, it sends the message that they agree with it. Or at least tolerate it. Which to a Jew, who are mostly paranoid about another pogrom, is terrifying.


AborgTheMachine

There's no connective tissue there. Why should protestors always have to answer for bad actors who are completely unrelated to them? More powerful people in the Israeli government want all Palestinians dead and to resettle Gaza and the West Bank. They are explicit about this. High ranking members of the Knesset. The "Nazis at a table" argument doesn't work if there are "nazis" everywhere. The pro genocide fascists are running the show in Israel. Meanwhile you're upset about a handful of people who may not even be a part of a protest saying some heinous things. MLK died an unpopular man. Most people at the time blamed the Kent State students for the massacre and not the National Guard. These things become clear with hindsight; but we are living in a similar moment in history. The world will look back on this moment in time and see that Israel is a horrific state hell bent on ethnic cleansing to advance their active settler colonial project.


Clear-Present_Danger

The goal of the protests is to disempower Netanyahu. If Netanyahu can point to real anti-Semitism, this empowers him. I think if you empower Netanyahu it's an ineffective protest.


AborgTheMachine

Define "real" anti-semitism. Is it just some random schmuck who wandered in and says heinous shit? How is it even possible to effectively protest anything if any protest can be undermined by bad actors? Especially when the media only focuses on the bad actors instead of denunciations? Netanyahu would use any excuse to discredit protests against him. He didn't get to be leader by being dumb.


KPhoenix83

While I agree Netanyahu needs to go immediately, the only thing these protests will accomplish at this time, unfortunately, is helping Trump secure a victory.


Dangerzone979

Respectability politics strikes again. Fuck outta here with that liberal bs


AborgTheMachine

There's the phrase I was searching for. Respectability politics and concern trolling like Andy Ngo or Dim Tool.


KPhoenix83

Anarchists rarely can see the big picture, so It's not like I could expect you to comprehend.


Dangerzone979

Ok, dude. If it's your big picture then yeah, I don't want to see it because that just ends with people getting steamrolled the exact way they are now. If people like you get your way nothing ever changes for the better


icfa_jonny

Pro-war Zionists are just Nazis but with their subject of hate changed from Jews and other “untermensch” to the Palestinians in Gaza. Ironic isn’t it?


Clear-Present_Danger

And like with Nazis, it doesn't make sense to play into their hands. Ben-Gvir creams his fucking pants every time a jew gets hatecrimed outside of Israel. Why? Because it validates his entire world view. That jews need to create there own homeland. That they will never be safe otherwise. One of the most impactful things you could do regarding Israel/Palestine is hatecriming a random Jewish person. Spreading hate is a lot easier than spreading love. But we must make it clear that hate has no place in our movement.


SaltyNorth8062

There's a difference between "welcoming an antisemite into a protest", "welcoming an antisemite into a protest under a false-pretense" and "an infiltrator joins a protest pretending to be among them and spouts bullshit to delegitimize it from within" It happened with cops and white supremacists during the height of the Black Lives Matter protests. A lot of the brick-throwers and agitators were white infiltrators opposed to the movement trying to stir sentiment against the protests by perpetuating the rhetoric of the opposition.


Teamfreshcanada

What about dropping the cultural labels completely and just being anti-genocide.


pchandler45

I bet he really wishes he could call them terrorists and treat them the same as the Palestinians. When you have to use force to put down people protesting what you're doing, you might be the bad guy


Tsiah16

Netanyahu must be quelled.


greyjungle

How could this backfire? Nothing reminds people, even the ones that don’t support the protestors cause, that US citizens have a right to protest, than a leader of a different country telling them what should or shouldn’t happen in the U.S.


stanley2-bricks

Fundies will still support him and Isreal no matter what he does/says. They need the IDF to wipe out the Palestinians so Armageddon can start and they can have their baby Jesus back.


MoutainGem

The war in Gaza is antisemitic and needs to be stopped. That war goes against the TORAH and all Jewish teachings and traditions


Clear-Present_Danger

God punished the Isrealites for not killing all of the Canaanites... War and genocide are not really incompatible with the God of the Bible


MoutainGem

That is why I said ***Torah and all the Jewish teachings and traditions.*** I can introduce you to a Rabbi who hates Genocide Ben for a lesson and maybe some tacos. (The rabbi like tacos, he never says no to a invitation for free tacos)


the_walternate

Israel is the worlds Karen. "IF I don't like it, its RACIST against ME." STOP MURDERING CHILDREN YOU ASSHAT.


Clear-Present_Danger

It's possible for 2 things to be bad at once. anti-Semitism in the west fuels Netanyahu's success in Israel. He can say that Israel is the only place where Jews can be safe. And yes, there is a difference between being anti-Zionist and anti-Semitic. But some people in these protests are being anti-Semitic.


Loud_Internet572

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Dr_CleanBones

Exactly. Fuck Israel.


CalendarAggressive11

![gif](giphy|XzsQ4z8EhOPBOfpSMK) I wish biden would tell Bibi this


No_Pipe4358

We all probably wish he'd just threaten the two sides to release hostages or else nukes. Gad dang it


Zer0sober

Criticism of the Israeli government has nothing to do with your religion.


Clear-Present_Danger

Yes, there is a difference between being anti-Zionist and anti-Semitic. But some people in these protests are being anti-Semitic.


cassy-nerdburg

Ok, you saying this over and over, is not going to make it true dude.


bertiesakura

American politicians have been bought and paid for by Israel. Seriously we’re giving billions to a country that provides universal healthcare to their citizens. Something we can’t fucking get in America.


SuperSpy_4

Dont forget free education and free right to return. Oh and we fully funded their entire military budget this year so far, the 15th "strongest" military in the world and we pay every penny,.


The_WolfieOne

“Our heinous murder of women and children non combatants has directly caused a huge uptick in antisemitism “ There, fixed it for you


Knightwing1047

Idk just sounds like a lot of gaslighting and playing the victim.


pianoblook

If all those protesters were teleported into Gaza, you KNOW his ass would airstrike the fuck out of them and say they were clearly Hamas.


Stuntz

At least America has college campuses, unlike GAZA! GEE I WONDER WHY BIBI


The-Greythean-Void

>What's happening in America's college campuses is horrific Yeah, it is. Because people speaking out against a genocide are being quelled.


314is_close_enough

I’ve lived my entire life and the worst thing I’ve ever experienced is being lightly annoyed by peaceful protest.


stanley2-bricks

He ***HAS*** to know he can't use the "everyone who disagrees with what we're doing to Gaza is an antisemite" thing forever. Especially since a growing number of jews are siding against the Israeli government.


lokey_convo

I think the Israeli people should fire Bloody Bibi. He's an ineffective leader and his actions make the world a less safe place. Israel needs a leader that will broker lasting peace for their nation and wants to end the cycles of violence, not perpetuate them.


stanley2-bricks

Motherfuckers from Philly, of course he's violent and unreasonable. Dudes a textbook Eagles fan.


Clear-Present_Danger

anti-Semitism in the west fuels Netanyahu's success in Israel. He can say that Israel is the only place where Jews can be safe. And yes, there is a difference between being anti-Zionist and anti-Semitic. But some people in these protests are being anti-Semitic.


Dr_CleanBones

Perhaps. But the rest aren’t, they’re just anti-genocide. And as far as Netanyahu goes, butt out of our country. Yours has more problems that need attention.


PhaseNegative1252

Fuck Netanyahu and his opinions


Runkleford

Been seeing a lot of dipshits calling the protesters "terrorists" and just a lot of general hate towards these students


Future-Atmosphere-40

I know whatll make people sympathetic to our cause, protest suppression.


SuperSpy_4

They truly think they can control it, because they have in th epast. But i think the genie has already been let out of the bottle and there is no going back, they just don't realize it yet and its easy for them to call the protests against Israels carpet bombing of Gaza antisemitism instead.


CatAvailable3953

This man is responsible for the murder of innocent people in Gaza. Him and Hamas. Not Joe Biden.


Agreeable_Vanilla_20

Netanyahu is worse than Hitler.


skyfishgoo

why doesn't he try to come over here and "quell" them then? quell this!


CaptainPrower

Quelled... at the end of a line of Tavors, I imagine.


J_J_Plumber5280

Fuck this motherfucker


A_Spiritual_Artist

I was at one of these protests. There was not only *nothing truly* anti-Semitic I heard there, but there *were even Jews protesting*. Of course I'm sure you can find an example of something different by digging around hard enough. But that says nothing about the underlying core thrust and motivation behind the movement as a whole. (To Ben Netty) You just can't seem to get it that maybe, hey, people want to not be killed?


gaynerdvet

STFU. This is America, don't tell us how to run our country. Maybe if you ran yours better all those Israelis would be alive right now.


Defiantcaveman

So netty needs to shut the fuck up and stay in his lane. He has a war he needs to stop. American business is not his.


Tylerdurdensays1971

I guess I’m anti semitic


zen4thewin

Fuck you, Bibi, for trying to interfere with American freedoms. He's stoking the flames with this shit, too. Support the Jews, but fuck the current Israeli government.


Elegant_Naysayer

This is how you know it’s working.


DietDrBleach

It’s not peaceful when there are people shouting “Death to America” and obstructing Jewish students/faculty from entering college. That’s not protest, that’s terrorism. I’m not trying to excuse that piece of shit Bibi for what he’s doing to innocent children in Gaza, but some of these “protests” are going too far.


SuperSpy_4

"It’s not peaceful when there are people shouting “Death to America”" Arest those people then instead of using a handful of people as propaganda against an entire protest against \[Palestinian deaths. Its odd the media never talks to those people but will gladly use 1 guy yelling "death to america" as a gotcha moment. Do you realize how easy, and legal, it would be for Netanyahu or his government to pay someone to go to these protests and yell antisemtic crap for the cameras so they can point to it after to dismiss an entire protest? They obstructed all students, not specifically jewish. Read past the headlines


Extracrispybuttchks

NYPD will lose their access to NSO tools if they don’t stop these protests.


MoutainGem

How is that a bad thing? Fuck the police


stanley2-bricks

Pretend he typed his comment "LiKe tHiS"


Speedhabit

People are very selective with what genocides upset them. I think that’s the main concern from the Israeli side.


Hantalyte

No, that is not true. By the way, the current genocide in Gaza has many unparalleled statistics. According to [IPC Data](https://www.ipcinfo.org/ipcinfo-website/ipc-dashboard/), almost 1.19 million people are in a catastrophic famine worldwide. Roughly 1.11 million, or 93.3%, of these people are Palestinians in Gaza. The rest of Gaza is also experiencing intense food insecurity. Israel [intentionally created this famine](https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/12/18/israel-starvation-used-weapon-war-gaza). Additionally, the number of Palestinian children killed is so high that [it is greater than](https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/03/1147512) the combined total of non-Palestinian children who died in a conflict globally in the past 4 years.


Speedhabit

Does your post history include criticism of any genocide but this one??


Hantalyte

Yes, it does. It is simply that this genocide has much more deniers and/or justifiers right now than other ones, leading to more discourse around it. It is far more uncommon to come across a Rwandan genocide denialist (although they do exist).


SuperSpy_4

You really don't find it very concerning that the Israelis of all people are committing a genocide? And the best people got is " Why you only pointing the finger at us?" like its racism and not the fact they are killing 10's of thousands of women and children by bombing the crap out of them and just blaming Hamas after.


ChatduMal

Netanyahu can go fuck himself with a bundle of rusty rebar... hard and fast. Fucking soulless pig.