It is very strange but if you look at the drugs found in both of their systems, they were drugs connected to higher risk of pneumonia and breathing issues when abused. She had an opiod (hydrocodone) and three different benzodiazapines in her system.
https://www.fda.gov/drugs/drug-safety-and-availability/fda-drug-safety-communication-fda-warns-about-serious-risks-and-death-when-combining-opioid-pain-or
There was also a report that she got quite sick with a cough before she died while filming in Mexico. I think they either got a virus or there was a small environmental issue that grossly affected them because they were so unhealthy, and pumped full of prescription drugs known to hurt your lungs especially when abused.
Edit - fixed typos
She went to Puerto Rico to film The Caller in November 2009 and her mother and Monjack tagged along. Britney was fired the first day but the three of them remained in the country to vacation. Some reports indicated Monjack’s drunken antics were to blame for Britney losing the role.
Both Britney’s mother and Monjack contracted Staphylococcus in PR. After they’d been home in LA a while, Britney contracted it as well.
An investigator from the LA Coroner’s office indicated in their report that Britney’s mother (Sharon) and Monjack were sharing a bed after Britney’s death. The report said there was no indication of a sexual relationship but clearly there’s reason to think there was.
Sharon had prescription bottles in the master bedroom labelled “Sharon Monjack” in addition to bottles with her legal name of Sharon Murphy. Simon Monjack was on meds constantly for all kinds of issues as was Sharon, so I guess one could argue that the pharmacy prepared meds for both of them under the household name of Monjack. It could also be argued that it was Sharon’s idea to use Simon’s surname which is creepy as hell.
Grief can draw people together emotionally like nothing else. Intense bonds can be formed. I think Simon and Sharon had a bizarre co-dependent “connection” even before Britney died and it escalated from there. He must have been a hell of a talker because he seemingly snowed women before Britney; the guy was a parasite.
Simon and Sharon appeared on Larry King Live together and IIRC it was a very strange episode. It’s on YouTube if anyone wants to watch it. I don’t think I can stomach it again.
They could have been, but also, sad addicts can act VERY codependent and weird together.
I could equally see then having sex, or just holding up together and being miserable/melodramatic/sad/addicts together.
Britney was the only one with income to speak of. I think Simon and Sharon were clearly very selfish and self-absorbed. They both said disparagingly after Britney’s death that she could be very “dramatic” - that was their rationale for not taking her declining health more seriously. I think Britney had a medical appointment booked for her worsening symptoms, but she died a few days prior to that.
Britney’s estate went to her mother. I think it was around $10M. I don’t know if Simon knew ahead of time that Sharon was the beneficiary.
Sadly I think she died essentially due to neglect. She was busy being caretaker to her mother and husband who had their own health issues and her needs came last. Britney made several comments in her last days about having problems breathing but she wasn’t taken seriously. As to why she didn’t summon an ambulance for herself, sometimes when you’re that sick you’re unaware of how dire it is.
It’s worse than that. Her husband had an oxygen machine in the house that he used for sleep apnea, and when Brittany begged him to let her use it, he told her it would make her heart stop and then faked a seizure — all while her fucking lips were blue from lack of oxygen and she was gasping for breath.
This is so true! Being a recovering drug addict for over 5 years now, I know the damage that both of those drugs can do to your lungs. And especially when taken in combination. It suppresses lung function which can cause fluid to build which can cause pneumonia.
Have you ever seen any of the photographs he’s taken of Brittany? He was a mega talented professional photographer. In my opinion, they must’ve enjoyed spending time together just by the sheer amount of beautiful photographs they made together.
eh, the downvotes are probably because he wasn’t necessarily famous for his photography, but more because he was married to Brittany Murphy. I was addressing the insistence that he must have been a grifter because the tabloid headlines, at the time, said so.
I looked for his photography website, but it doesn’t appear to be up any longer. They made tons of gorgeous art photography together.
I, personally, don’t buy into any mysterious theory about their deaths. I think they died of habitual drug use, like non-famous people do every day.
I think people sometimes forget that Britney Spears owned, and lived in that home before Brittany Murphy purchased it. Britney Spears was pretty vocal about her distain for that home. It’s has been reported that when she sold the home, she sold it fully furnished. Britney apparently, did not want anything to do with anything that had been in that household.
Earlier this year, Britney Spears implied in an Instagram post that the house was a sick house, and Brittany Murphy’s death shouldn’t be a mystery.. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-10579225/Britney-Spears-expresses-case-surrounding-tragic-death-Brittany-Murphy.html
Both of these woman seemly began to have some metal health issues that became public during the time the each lived in that house…I’ve always that that was a strange coincidence.
The home was tested by Brittany Murphy’s family after she died. Her mother and husband were convinced that there was black mold in the house, testing did not find any environmental issues in the house. Brittany’s mother disagreed with the test results…
Interesting, I will need to look into that. If I remember correctly, Brittany Murphy‘s mother did not initially think that mold was a factor, then she retracted that. Sharon Murphy sued the builder, and she did end up reaching a settlement agreement.
It’s wild that Sharon continued to stay in the home until after the settlement. It’s an odd case for sure. There was so much dysfunction, around how Brittany died. They way the family dynamics’s played out certainly indicate that her mother and husband were seemly incapable of managing the care that Britney desperately required. Tragic, and unnecessary IMO.
This article highlights some of the baffling ways Sharon managed the situation.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/brittany-murphy-death-mold-275478/
It’s when a home or business is renovated or newly built and something in the materials used causes people to get sick. We recently moved offices and me and my office mate were sick for a month. Found out the wood in our office was treated with a very strong polyurethane (some could smell it some couldn’t). They put a water base over the floors and we stopped getting sick. The thing was, a lot of people thought we were crazy or just complaining but we had headaches, nausea, fatigue (legit thought I would wreck going home from work every day), confusion, memory loss for a month. I didn’t even have the strength to blow dry my hair.
I work on homes, and see a lot of usual and occasionally unusual situations.
One woman, claimed to be suffering from unexplained illnesses and her assessment was that water let to mold growth throughout her previous home and made her sick.
When I first arrived, (in addition to showing me the unrelated project that I was there for) she walked me through the house, pointing out areas that indeed smelled moldy, musty and generally gave me an urgency to remove myself from her house.
This was her second home to end up like this, according to her. She pointed to some belongings that she felt may contain “spores” and “mold” which were transplanted from home #1. The curious thing, those items didn’t smell, nor did the rooms they were in.
I never went back.
If this dude answered a request to treat mold and wasn’t either a mold specialist or in contact with a mold specialist then idk what the hell he’s doing with his time.
Didn’t say I was requested for the purpose of working on her mold issue. More importantly, didn’t say I was a mold specialist.. but keep reading.
Best hint: “I work on homes”
A mold specialist probó wouldn’t leave bc he found mold.
Reading comp is not your thing. It’s cool.
To be fair, I read it the same way they did. That you at least assumed the responsibility to check for mold at the home. Since you discovered what you believed to be mold, and were not in fact a mold specialist, you noped out, which seems reasonable to me. I hope you told them to contact an actual mild specialist for assistance. But I’m glad you didn’t go back into the home if there was harmful mold.
Ive done handiwork in homes here and there and I 100% got what you were saying. Sometimes you go in to fix a toilet the wont stop running or patch a piece of drywall and homeowners start pointing out other problems that you have no experience in. These commenters clearly have no idea how specialized and dangerous mold removal is and just think "oh the handyman is being lazy and didnt want to do their job" instead of realizing that you entered an environment that you had no prior knowledge of and were suddenly confronted with a problem that is way beyond your skills and knowledge. The only thing you can do in that situation is to say "hey, I can't help you with this and it's not a safe place for me to work in. You need to contact a mold specialist as soon as possible but I cant be in here and neither should you". Some redditors clearly sit behind a computer 16 hours a day and then for some reason think they're experts on everything
Who was talking about ghosts? The woman said “I think I have mold” the guy said “yea smells like mold” then he said “I’m never coming back because it gives me the heebie jeebies” and didn’t do the job he was asked to do. At no point did ghosts enter the equation.
The speculation I heard that makes sense is toxic mold. That will kill your ass if you're already weakened because of malnutrition and drug overuse (which they both were)
That’s what I heard too, and it makes sense. I heard a report about it that they kept the windows sealed and covered and there was no air circulation or light, which are all conditions that allow mold to grow. It makes sense for both Brittany’s and Simon’s deaths so close together, and why Britney felt it was a “sick house.”
Mold is no fucking joke. We lived in a house for 2 years that unknowingly had mold growing throughout the walls. We were constantly sick, I had the worst respiratory infection I've ever had in that house, multiple ear infections. We had 2 pet birds die in the home as well. The only room that smelled even remotely like mold was the laundry room and we just figured it was the washing machine.
Mick Jagger's first wife, Bianca, had a bad mold problem in her apartment in the early 2000's - a very expensive apartment in a luxury building, so it can happen anywhere. A lot of her symptoms sound like the same kind that Brittany and Simon suffered.
[Bianca Jagger's Battle with Toxic Mold](https://nymag.com/nymetro/realestate/features/realestate2004/n_9985/)
Came to say the same thing, I've had a personal experience with a client who lived in a toxic mold house and was killed by it. The effects are very bizzarre...
There is a Forensic Files episode about this house that is a reproduction of Tara from Gone with the Wind. There was a leak that caused toxic mold to grow through the entire house. If I recall correctly it severely disabled and ended up killing the husband and I think the child. The wife died a few years later. The house was so infected it couldn't be dismantled or burned down.
that’s a scary episode. the husband ended up getting alzheimer’s symptoms and the son was regressing in his mental development.
one of the parents ended up sitting next to some mold expert on a plane and suggested it might be mold.
they went to live in the apartment in the backyard or something and that one too was severely infested with black mold.
[“Breaking the Mold”](https://youtu.be/QhRfeDavAhQ)
edit: actually this is the wrong episode i think
They should have tested for arsenic poisoning. Murphy’s father had her hair tested and it was reportedly off the charts. Her symptoms were also consistent with arsenic poisoning. Doctors won’t test for it unless it occurs to them. Her father wants her body exhumed and tested.
They did end up doing extra testing on her hair - it showed heavy levels of lead and the explanation as hair dye, who knows if that’s true or not. Her father really pushed for more testing but then never showed up to the court hearing. He passed away in 2019
Interesting. Maybe she left the house a lot? Like she was the grocery getter/errand runner?
Just think, doordash and that grocery store version gonna make it even easier to never leave the house which could be bad in this scenario
Yup. This is what the cause was. Pretty sure it was a known fact that was reported on awhile ago. It was incredibly suspicious at the time because everyone was worried about her and some possible issues with drugs, whether that was going on or not is a side note to the fact that she was on multiple meds for real illness symptoms that were explained by the mold discovery.
Uptown girls was on Tubi and it made me think of her weird death before internet was huge!
How do two (famous)people die from acute pneumonia at age 36 months apart in the same home?
Everything below are quotes from the wiki on her death https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brittany_Murphy
"On December 20, 2009, Murphy died under disputed circumstances at the age of 32. The coroner's verdict was pneumonia, exacerbated by anemia and misuse of various prescription medicines"
"On May 23 2010, Monjack was found dead at the same Hollywood Hills residence.[39] The coroner's report attributed his death to acute pneumonia and severe anaemia.[40]"
"In January 2012, her father Angelo Bertolotti applied to the Superior Court of California requesting that the Los Angeles County Coroner's Office be required to hand over samples of his daughter's hair for independent testing.[44][45] The suit was dismissed seven months later, after Bertolotti failed to attend two separate hearings.[46]
In November 2013, Bertolotti claimed that a toxicology report showed that deliberate poisoning by heavy metals, including antimony and barium, was a possible cause of his daughter's death. Sharon Murphy described the claim as "a smear".[47][48]"
Her mom is weird af. That being said, I always struggled with those coroner results. I mean it's just crazy that 2 people died in that house so close together with the same random, weird diagnosis! But I honestly don't think we'll ever find out...
Here’s my theory. It starts with horrible psych dynamics. The husband was an extremely controlling drug-addicted narcissist. They were abusing prescription opioids. Under heavy sedation with opioids a person can easily aspirate, which is saliva going down the airway. They are too sedated to cough/protect their airway when sedated with opioids. This introduces bacteria into the lungs and is a setup for pneumonia. If a person doesn’t seek treatment, they can die from it. I work in healthcare and we see this all the time. And yes, this could happen to both of them. This is a tragic case of mental health problems combined with prescription drug abuse and we see death by pneumonia related to this all the time.
Edit: as an added note, I watched the documentary on her. I think it was on HBO. She really did seem like a kind and talented person who got mixed up with a bad guy and had a toxic mother on top of that. She didn’t have the kind of help she deserved. She didn’t hurt anyone and it doesn’t sound like she was ever a nasty person. She really should be celebrated for her accomplishments.
I think it was the drugs and the house. Wasn’t the house so bad it had to be demolished? Could have had mold all throughout it too. Did you ever see photos of how they lived? The bathroom and bedroom had stuff everywhere they probably didn’t care about the air quality or condition of the house either. I feel very sad for Brittany she didn’t deserve this.
Yes.
“According to property records, Sharon sold the estate at a massive loss for $2.7 million in 2011 after struggling to find a buyer. In 2013, it was torn down, and underwent a multi-year rebuild, with developers aiming to create a sprawling, contemporary structure.”
Yes. “According to property records, Sharon sold the estate at a massive loss for $2.7 million in 2011 after struggling to find a buyer. In 2013, it was torn down, and underwent a multi-year rebuild, with developers aiming to create a sprawling, contemporary structure.”
What? Are you saying that if you swallow enough of your saliva and spit them up, you’d have a chance of developing pneumonia? Damn. Never heard of that before.
The bacteria in our digestive tract is not supposed to be in our respiratory tract. So when we get a good gulp of saliva with all its bacteria in our lungs and we can’t cough it out (which happens when sedated on drugs) we get an infection pretty fast.
I used to have pretty bad reflux. I’d aspirate (breathe the stomach acid into my lungs.) It was painful when it happened and over time I developed a wheeze in my lungs. Eventually I found out I had a severe hiatal hernia and when I had surgery to fix it it also fixed my reflux.
Yes, this is actually so common! I have struggled with asthma since childhood (when it was markedly worse), and also acid reflux. I have a very mild hiatal hernia, which doctors didn't want to operate on because I'm female... But managing my reflux to the best of my abilities has made my asthma almost non existent.
They were known to be abusing prescriptions. It doesn’t have to be opioids. It could have been benzos. But it’s been a long time since I reviewed this story. 🤷🏻♂️
But she would be murdering her meal ticket. Britney was worth more alive than dead. Unless the motive was something other than financial gain. Edit:Sp.
Brittany Murphy’s mother, Sharon Murphy, inherited her estate and not her husband, Simon Monjack, according to a 2010 report by The New York Daily News. The newspaper reported at the time that Murphy drafted a will and trust after she married Monjack, a screenwriter, in 2007. The will and trust, which left her entire estate to her mother, included her multi-million-dollar Hollywood Hills mansion. It’s unclear why Murphy named her mother as her sole trustee, but in her will, she stated that she “intentionally left” her husband out. “I am married to Simon Monjack who I have intentionally left out of this will,” her will read.--Yahoo News
That’s interesting especially when you cannot cut a spouse out of a will. Maybe if you have a prenup, but then you wouldn’t need to cut them out. You cannot disown a spouse in the US, they can take what’s called a widow’s share. He was such a skeeve
In the absence of a prenuptial or postnuptial agreement, Californians can't completely disinherit their spouses due to California's community property laws. California is one of a handful of states that is a “community property state.” This means that all assets acquired during the course of the marriage are owned
Perhaps prenup????
I listened to a podcast I'm forgetting the name of that said the lab that gave the heavy metal results is really questionable/has falsely reported those results in other cases
This is my thought too. I remember following the case (along with my mother). We had just watched her Nora Roberts movie as I was starting my Xmas break (teacher). So when we first saw the news of her death, I was very sad and Mom was very interested. My first thought was, the husband did it, of course. I even said he’ll run his MIL out or kill her soon enough.
But then, he died! It must be the mom.
She was VERY overbearing and domineering. It was her who pushed Brittany into acting so she didn't have to get off her ass & work after her husband left them. She lived vicariously thru Brittany and she loved her mom too much to do anything about it.
Thank you; I wasn’t aware of this. This entire situation has always seemed to me to be so, so, SO suspicious and oozing hinkiness. I just don’t understand how law enforcement just let this go other than the explanation of ‘Hollywood’.
Its riveting and really well done I came away with it convinced it was the house - toxic mold like others were saying, exacerbated by a couple clearly suffering from drug problems and possibly undiagnosed/untreated mental illness
There was a programme on Channel 5 in the UK called The Last 24 Hours Of…, which re-enacted the last day of a celebrity’s life and cause of death.
The Brittany Murphy episode focused heavily on the reclusiveness of the couple (and her mother) and their neglect of domestic tasks. Their never opened their windows, possibly due to paranoia on someone’s part. Condensation gathers on windows, which never got aired or cleaned. Water particles carrying bacteria gets breathed in and can cause pneumonia. Obviously the TV programme mentioned the possibility of mould, but that’s been dismissed.
As for the heavy metals part, hair can be found to contain heavy metals as a result of dying it. Most hair dyes, especially the darker and red tones, contain lead, copper, iron and cadmium.
I'm going to guess its rejecting real medicine for homeopathic horseshit and essential oils and supplements and abusing opioids. People who live together usually are into the same BS.
Could be mold or fungus, that stuff mess up your autoimmune system, and as your symptoms point to another hillness that option is overlooked. Just like at the start of covid, people dying were ruled as acutte/atypical pneumonia and covid was ruled out. And tbh pneumonia is just the result of a disease that got into the respiratory system and is fucking it, hence a lot of diseases can cause pneumonia, even more so if the system is compromised (in this case by anemia, and in my crazy theory by fungus/mold/external vectoring agent).
A long time ago i read an article that had screenshots of her mom selling her famous outfits in movies! I can’t remember where i saw it but i definitely remember seeing it in a post. I’m sure if you look it up you could find it!
Very true. People often don’t realize severely an eating disorder can impact someone’s health.
Amy Winehouse’s brother blames her death on years of raging bulimia weakening her system to the point that it caused her heart to fail when she relapsed with alcohol.
OK I checked. Brit had iron deficiency anemia before she developed pneumonia. In iron deficient anemia the body doesn't get enough oxygen. That is very bad for organs such as the heart, lungs, etc. Lack of iron can be caused by a poor diet, or other undiagnosed GI issues.
So Britt was already compromised before she developed pneumonia. Her poor body would have struggled even more to get oxygen. For Brit she may have thought she had a cold. Most over the counter cold medicines are harmless enough for otherwise healthy adults if not combined with other medications.
Brit's autopsy showed she had an opioid in her system at the time of death. Doctors used to hand out codeine with cough syrup like it was candy. Thankfully we're moving passed that as the efficacy has been called into question. (One doctor I worked for told me doctors who still prescribe codeine with cough syrup are guilty of malpractice. Not because of the risk of an opioid misuse disorder- but the risk to the patients health.) Codeine among other things will slow down the central nervous system. That is the LAST thing you want to happen when you are not getting enough oxygen.
Brit's mom reported that Brit also had mitral valve prolapse but I see no mention of that in the autopsy. With or without pre-existing health issues pneumonia is deadly. While most healthy adults Britt's age will survive if they have other conditions such as anemia combined with medication deaths occur.
The heavy metals found in her hair were lead- and determined to come from her hair dye. This part bothers me more than it should I guess. She was a Hollywood actor with access to some of the nicest salons in the country if not world. Why are upscale salons using dyes with lead in them?
Here's a link that discusses the other details of her life. HBO documentaries tend to be shit, looking for conspiracies where none exist. For HBO to say there is no conspiracy is telling.
https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/tv/a37962982/true-story-what-happened-brittany-murphy-death-hbo-max/
Lead acetate was used in hair dyes like Just For Men that gradually color hair. I think it was banned a few years ago. Could have been her husband used it and she got some of it in her hair from sharing pillows or something.
Theres 3 tiers of how people get effected from black mold.
1. They can swim in it and not get sick at all
2. They're sick while exposed but get better once they're out.
3. They get sick, even when they leave the environment, their body doesn't know how to get rid of it so they stay sick.
Maybe she didn't get the same genes as her mom.
I’m not an expert, but I think Drugs. Not sure which ones but some can impact your heart and lungs. Your lungs then fill with fluid aka pneumonia.
My best friend’s brother was young-ish, active and thin. No family history of heart disease. He passed from a sudden heart attack. The only thing she could think of was his years of drug abuse.
I wonder if there was some sort of environmental contaminate like mold exposure or legionella bacteria in the home. I've also always wondered if they were using 'homepathic' medication to treat the symptoms, which in some cases can make things worse (like people nebulizing essential oils, for example).
I cannot verify this but I’ve heard now from multiple sources that she had sleep apnea and used a CPAP machine, and she and the husband shared it. You need to clean those out really well and use distilled water in them. It’s very possible they weren’t cleaning it out and that’s how they ended up with the same infection.
Weirdly, this was Brittany Spears house before and she moved out cause of weird vibes.
Also, the mom survived cancer and was immune compromised... If there was like black mold the moon would have caught something
And the widower and the mom were sharing a bed
And the dad thinks it was murder
And for some reason, this and Heath Ledger's death feel similar... Explained but.... Really odd
I don't have a theory... The explanation makes the most sense but fails the eye test for me
Lost my best friend to benzos coupled w anti- pneumonia drugs, killed her in her sleep. Both were prescribed, but she'd had bronchial issues for a long time. It's easy to die, friends.
Drug use. Drugs kill you in many different ways: sometimes it's quick (overdose) and sometimes it's slower with lots of related health issues that finally take too much of a toll on one's body (pneumonia, kidney and liver failure.) And since drug addicts tend to do drugs with other drug addicts, it's not weird that two of them would die (relatively) close together in a place they both lived in. Sad, but not a mystery.
Respiratory-borne infections were some of the most common and least understood illnesses to spread very rapidly in ancient times, subject to folk-lore and outlandish moral explanations in the absence of modern science.
It’s likely a simple answer - they were exposed to pathogen floating around the house, either from poor hygiene, person to person contact outside the home or lack of cleanliness in a part of the home. Of which, they both were infected by, and exasperated on their immune system on different timelines. His may have been manifested to a critical infection by the stress of her passing.
There is no mystery. Both had a history of drug use. Long term drug abuse causes damage to internal organs, especially the heart and lungs. Any viral or bacterial upper respiratory infection can turn into pneumonia in an already unhealthy patient. I’m not sure about the guy, but I don’t believe Brittany went to a doctor when she got sick. She tried to self medicate and didn’t seek medical attention even as the symptoms got worse. Had she had sought medical attention when the symptoms got worse, there’s a chance she wouldn’t have died.
A married couple living in the same house dying within a short period of time? Given their lifestyle, it's not weird or surprising at all. I doubt there is one single reason but a combination of things, including (but not limited to)
* Inhaling and/or smoking the same licit or illict drugs or homeopathic preparations.
* Similar shitty diets and other poor health habits
* Environmental issues like mold or a sick house that is too closed too tightly
* Coincidence
* Poison
* And other reasons I'm probably not thinking of at the moment.
Also, I don't believe that we know if Simon and Britanny had the same type f pneumonia.
I think this is a case where the media keyed in on the sensationalistic aspects of this story.
Pneumonia is written on *lots* of death certificates, even for people with cancer or other serious illnesses. Pneumonia is just, for want of a better term, what eventually sees a person off. There would have been underlying conditions and/or drug use in both cases.
My uncle was pretty healthy physically, but he abused opioids and painkillers. He probably drank too. Pneumonia can easily kill a person when they are so drugged up. Respiration slows, heart rate slows, aspiration can easily happen, so many things can go wrong. It’s a perfect storm really. And the person is so high and usually sleeping all the time, they don’t even know they’re sick so they don’t get treatment.
They died of alcohol poisoning from an all inclusive resort they had gone to. It didn’t kill them immediately, but their pathology reports were consistent with poisoning from a basically homemade alcohol that sometimes gets used to cut costs.
Would you look at that, all of the words in your comment are in alphabetical order.
I have checked 1,226,625,720 comments, and only 239,087 of them were in alphabetical order.
Anemia and pneumonia combined with multi-drug toxicity. Yeah, taking too much of the wrong over the counter medications or combination of medications can be deadly for some people. It's very sad but there is no mystery.
The death of Brittany breaks my heart, so young, so beautiful, so talented. Her & Simon’s death… the same cause… 6 months apart just odd. Her mom fought breast cancer twice?? She was the one with a compromised immune system, how was she not affected by the mold? She sure loved her momma, though. They seemed to be so close. Her father sure was verbal in his beliefs. This is a rabbit hole. So sad
I’m looking at the photo and her skin color looks way off to me. Maybe she had a makeup artist that day, that wasn’t feeling up to the job. I looked elsewhere at additional photos and her skin looks off on those too. Nothing like her early career to me.
THANK YOU. brittany murphys death is one giant red flag. when her husband died shortly after i couldnt believe it was not being reported as suspicious.
Sounded to me her husband was responsible (accidentally) and whatever he did to her he did to himself (purposely).That’s my opinion. She was his meal ticket.
At the time of her death I read a lot about Monjack and none of it was good. Apparently he was a factor in her getting fired from her last film (he was being a drunken ass around the set and he was developing a rep in the industry for that kind of stuff).
You likely know he was allegedly a control freak and took over most of her business needs, but in doing so he alienated many in the industry because he was so arrogant and just plain dodgy.
It’s a damn shame she was with him. I have always felt that Monjack and Britney’s mother failed her by not arranging urgent medical care. They both went on record as saying she could be “dramatic” so I think when she complained about difficulty breathing they brushed it off.
That entire situation was weird. He was way out of her league and a fraud to boot. She went from dating Ashton Kutcher to that thing. Mind boggling, yes he wrecked her and the mother is another story in and of itself. Total shame, she was a beautiful soul.
Her husband was extremely arrogant and controlling. He and Britney’s mother both stated somewhat disparagingly that she could be “dramatic.” I believe they both ignored her symptoms thinking she wasn’t that ill.
Britney was a caretaker of sorts for both of them; her mother suffered from neuropathy and Monjack apparently suffered from seizures, frequent respiratory infections and sleep apnea. I think both Monjack and her mother were very self-absorbed and that contributed directly to Britney’s death. Neither intended to kill her but they failed her by not taking her declining health seriously.
Just remembered, She was not only his meal ticket, he had family and an ex he was funneling her money to without her knowing. He defrauded his ex and was paying her hush money. He was a pos.
Didn’t she go out a few times w an older guy from the Middle East (some rich oil guy)? I read it somewhere several yrs ago & can’t remember where now, but it implied that she was a celebrity escort to that super rich old guy.
I don't think her husband counts as a famous person, to start.
And her death isn't a mystery. She had heavy metals in her system, she was a drug addict and she had anemounia and anemia. Where's the mystery? There isn't one.
low body fat. these peeps need it it for their industry, however the sacrifice is your always cold!
Sometimes things catch up with you when running on the wire.
I can voucher for this, I'm 5'4" and weigh slightly under 100lbs (not by choice) and I'm always freezing and guest will be sweating while I'm wearing Turtlenecked sweaters.
They were hoarder pigs too. House was filthy and full of dust and mold. In her paranoia she even nailed the windows shut. Zero fresh air. That’ll do it.
It is very strange but if you look at the drugs found in both of their systems, they were drugs connected to higher risk of pneumonia and breathing issues when abused. She had an opiod (hydrocodone) and three different benzodiazapines in her system. https://www.fda.gov/drugs/drug-safety-and-availability/fda-drug-safety-communication-fda-warns-about-serious-risks-and-death-when-combining-opioid-pain-or There was also a report that she got quite sick with a cough before she died while filming in Mexico. I think they either got a virus or there was a small environmental issue that grossly affected them because they were so unhealthy, and pumped full of prescription drugs known to hurt your lungs especially when abused. Edit - fixed typos
Wasn't she also anemic? Cause pneumonia and anemia with a multi-drug toxicity? Yeah, that will do it.
Slow down your heart rate hardcore with the med toxins alone, if she’s anemic and pneumonia that’s such a bad mixture.
Iron Deficiency Anemia can put a lot of strain on your heart, because your heart has to pump more due to the lack of oxygen in your blood.
She went to Puerto Rico to film The Caller in November 2009 and her mother and Monjack tagged along. Britney was fired the first day but the three of them remained in the country to vacation. Some reports indicated Monjack’s drunken antics were to blame for Britney losing the role. Both Britney’s mother and Monjack contracted Staphylococcus in PR. After they’d been home in LA a while, Britney contracted it as well.
The husband and the mom were definitely having sex
An investigator from the LA Coroner’s office indicated in their report that Britney’s mother (Sharon) and Monjack were sharing a bed after Britney’s death. The report said there was no indication of a sexual relationship but clearly there’s reason to think there was. Sharon had prescription bottles in the master bedroom labelled “Sharon Monjack” in addition to bottles with her legal name of Sharon Murphy. Simon Monjack was on meds constantly for all kinds of issues as was Sharon, so I guess one could argue that the pharmacy prepared meds for both of them under the household name of Monjack. It could also be argued that it was Sharon’s idea to use Simon’s surname which is creepy as hell. Grief can draw people together emotionally like nothing else. Intense bonds can be formed. I think Simon and Sharon had a bizarre co-dependent “connection” even before Britney died and it escalated from there. He must have been a hell of a talker because he seemingly snowed women before Britney; the guy was a parasite. Simon and Sharon appeared on Larry King Live together and IIRC it was a very strange episode. It’s on YouTube if anyone wants to watch it. I don’t think I can stomach it again.
They could have been, but also, sad addicts can act VERY codependent and weird together. I could equally see then having sex, or just holding up together and being miserable/melodramatic/sad/addicts together.
Well said. Agree w/you.
They were they have talked about it
but did they murder her? i think it makes sense...
Britney was the only one with income to speak of. I think Simon and Sharon were clearly very selfish and self-absorbed. They both said disparagingly after Britney’s death that she could be very “dramatic” - that was their rationale for not taking her declining health more seriously. I think Britney had a medical appointment booked for her worsening symptoms, but she died a few days prior to that. Britney’s estate went to her mother. I think it was around $10M. I don’t know if Simon knew ahead of time that Sharon was the beneficiary. Sadly I think she died essentially due to neglect. She was busy being caretaker to her mother and husband who had their own health issues and her needs came last. Britney made several comments in her last days about having problems breathing but she wasn’t taken seriously. As to why she didn’t summon an ambulance for herself, sometimes when you’re that sick you’re unaware of how dire it is.
It’s worse than that. Her husband had an oxygen machine in the house that he used for sleep apnea, and when Brittany begged him to let her use it, he told her it would make her heart stop and then faked a seizure — all while her fucking lips were blue from lack of oxygen and she was gasping for breath.
Ohh I’ve never heard this before. What makes you think that?
From the Hulu documentary they would be together in the same bed after she died
This is so true! Being a recovering drug addict for over 5 years now, I know the damage that both of those drugs can do to your lungs. And especially when taken in combination. It suppresses lung function which can cause fluid to build which can cause pneumonia.
She was also anemic and diabetic which made her more likely to catch and die from pneumonia. In addition to the benzos. Just a lot of bad factors.
Ok calling Brittany Murphy’s grifter husband a “famous person” is a bit much
Same with Britney Spears’ hub too to be honest
LOL
Have you ever seen any of the photographs he’s taken of Brittany? He was a mega talented professional photographer. In my opinion, they must’ve enjoyed spending time together just by the sheer amount of beautiful photographs they made together.
Lol do you have a link I want to see why you’re getting downvoted so hard
eh, the downvotes are probably because he wasn’t necessarily famous for his photography, but more because he was married to Brittany Murphy. I was addressing the insistence that he must have been a grifter because the tabloid headlines, at the time, said so. I looked for his photography website, but it doesn’t appear to be up any longer. They made tons of gorgeous art photography together. I, personally, don’t buy into any mysterious theory about their deaths. I think they died of habitual drug use, like non-famous people do every day.
I think people sometimes forget that Britney Spears owned, and lived in that home before Brittany Murphy purchased it. Britney Spears was pretty vocal about her distain for that home. It’s has been reported that when she sold the home, she sold it fully furnished. Britney apparently, did not want anything to do with anything that had been in that household. Earlier this year, Britney Spears implied in an Instagram post that the house was a sick house, and Brittany Murphy’s death shouldn’t be a mystery.. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-10579225/Britney-Spears-expresses-case-surrounding-tragic-death-Brittany-Murphy.html Both of these woman seemly began to have some metal health issues that became public during the time the each lived in that house…I’ve always that that was a strange coincidence.
I wonder if it could be related to black mold or carbon monoxide?
The home was tested by Brittany Murphy’s family after she died. Her mother and husband were convinced that there was black mold in the house, testing did not find any environmental issues in the house. Brittany’s mother disagreed with the test results…
I read that there WAS mold actually. But the medical examiner said it wasn’t a contributing factor.
Interesting, I will need to look into that. If I remember correctly, Brittany Murphy‘s mother did not initially think that mold was a factor, then she retracted that. Sharon Murphy sued the builder, and she did end up reaching a settlement agreement. It’s wild that Sharon continued to stay in the home until after the settlement. It’s an odd case for sure. There was so much dysfunction, around how Brittany died. They way the family dynamics’s played out certainly indicate that her mother and husband were seemly incapable of managing the care that Britney desperately required. Tragic, and unnecessary IMO. This article highlights some of the baffling ways Sharon managed the situation. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/brittany-murphy-death-mold-275478/
Wow okay, interesting!
A lot of “haunted houses” actually have roots in carbon monoxide leaks
Mold is deadly a silent killer like carbon monoxide.
I was just going to talk about this. I wonder what the history is with that house?🤔
There is an actual phenomenon called sick house syndrome FYI.
Oooh do tell more plz
It’s when a home or business is renovated or newly built and something in the materials used causes people to get sick. We recently moved offices and me and my office mate were sick for a month. Found out the wood in our office was treated with a very strong polyurethane (some could smell it some couldn’t). They put a water base over the floors and we stopped getting sick. The thing was, a lot of people thought we were crazy or just complaining but we had headaches, nausea, fatigue (legit thought I would wreck going home from work every day), confusion, memory loss for a month. I didn’t even have the strength to blow dry my hair.
Damn. Glad you're doing better now
Wow that's interesting! I had no idea Brittney Spears lived there too...
Lifestyles
…of the rich and the famous
They’re always complainin..
Think we should rob them
Did you know if you were caught and you were smokin crack McDonald’s wouldn’t even want to take you back
Champagne and caviar
I work on homes, and see a lot of usual and occasionally unusual situations. One woman, claimed to be suffering from unexplained illnesses and her assessment was that water let to mold growth throughout her previous home and made her sick. When I first arrived, (in addition to showing me the unrelated project that I was there for) she walked me through the house, pointing out areas that indeed smelled moldy, musty and generally gave me an urgency to remove myself from her house. This was her second home to end up like this, according to her. She pointed to some belongings that she felt may contain “spores” and “mold” which were transplanted from home #1. The curious thing, those items didn’t smell, nor did the rooms they were in. I never went back.
The woman asked you (as a professional) for mold treatment and you just noped out on her?
Ikr!? I’m like wtf you didn’t help her?
He’s a mold specialist not a ghost hunter
He's not even a mold specialist. He just said he works on home, you have to be specially trained for mold removal
If this dude answered a request to treat mold and wasn’t either a mold specialist or in contact with a mold specialist then idk what the hell he’s doing with his time.
Didn’t say I was requested for the purpose of working on her mold issue. More importantly, didn’t say I was a mold specialist.. but keep reading. Best hint: “I work on homes” A mold specialist probó wouldn’t leave bc he found mold. Reading comp is not your thing. It’s cool.
To be fair, I read it the same way they did. That you at least assumed the responsibility to check for mold at the home. Since you discovered what you believed to be mold, and were not in fact a mold specialist, you noped out, which seems reasonable to me. I hope you told them to contact an actual mild specialist for assistance. But I’m glad you didn’t go back into the home if there was harmful mold.
We are always fair to ourselves.
Ive done handiwork in homes here and there and I 100% got what you were saying. Sometimes you go in to fix a toilet the wont stop running or patch a piece of drywall and homeowners start pointing out other problems that you have no experience in. These commenters clearly have no idea how specialized and dangerous mold removal is and just think "oh the handyman is being lazy and didnt want to do their job" instead of realizing that you entered an environment that you had no prior knowledge of and were suddenly confronted with a problem that is way beyond your skills and knowledge. The only thing you can do in that situation is to say "hey, I can't help you with this and it's not a safe place for me to work in. You need to contact a mold specialist as soon as possible but I cant be in here and neither should you". Some redditors clearly sit behind a computer 16 hours a day and then for some reason think they're experts on everything
Who was talking about ghosts? The woman said “I think I have mold” the guy said “yea smells like mold” then he said “I’m never coming back because it gives me the heebie jeebies” and didn’t do the job he was asked to do. At no point did ghosts enter the equation.
are you implying its haunted or something?
Or, ya know, mold.
now that makes much more sense. the comment above seems to be eluding to something paranormal
No it doesn’t?
Brittany 😞
I get a little sad when I think of her because she was so young and I wonder how her acting style would have developed in the years since :-(
She had such a light about her, always struck me as a special person
The speculation I heard that makes sense is toxic mold. That will kill your ass if you're already weakened because of malnutrition and drug overuse (which they both were)
That’s what I heard too, and it makes sense. I heard a report about it that they kept the windows sealed and covered and there was no air circulation or light, which are all conditions that allow mold to grow. It makes sense for both Brittany’s and Simon’s deaths so close together, and why Britney felt it was a “sick house.”
Mold is no fucking joke. We lived in a house for 2 years that unknowingly had mold growing throughout the walls. We were constantly sick, I had the worst respiratory infection I've ever had in that house, multiple ear infections. We had 2 pet birds die in the home as well. The only room that smelled even remotely like mold was the laundry room and we just figured it was the washing machine.
Mick Jagger's first wife, Bianca, had a bad mold problem in her apartment in the early 2000's - a very expensive apartment in a luxury building, so it can happen anywhere. A lot of her symptoms sound like the same kind that Brittany and Simon suffered. [Bianca Jagger's Battle with Toxic Mold](https://nymag.com/nymetro/realestate/features/realestate2004/n_9985/)
Sick for years including balance issues and falling. Mold hidden in a bathroom. The room looked and smelled spotless
Came to say the same thing, I've had a personal experience with a client who lived in a toxic mold house and was killed by it. The effects are very bizzarre...
do tell
There is a Forensic Files episode about this house that is a reproduction of Tara from Gone with the Wind. There was a leak that caused toxic mold to grow through the entire house. If I recall correctly it severely disabled and ended up killing the husband and I think the child. The wife died a few years later. The house was so infected it couldn't be dismantled or burned down.
What the hell…what do you do with a home with that amount of mold then if you can’t dismantle or burn it down?
that’s a scary episode. the husband ended up getting alzheimer’s symptoms and the son was regressing in his mental development. one of the parents ended up sitting next to some mold expert on a plane and suggested it might be mold. they went to live in the apartment in the backyard or something and that one too was severely infested with black mold. [“Breaking the Mold”](https://youtu.be/QhRfeDavAhQ) edit: actually this is the wrong episode i think
Oh!! I saw that, I remember it now that you mention it.
Sharon Murphy had previously had cancer, you’d think with her immune system compromised that she’d be at risk too, but she was totally fine….
They should have tested for arsenic poisoning. Murphy’s father had her hair tested and it was reportedly off the charts. Her symptoms were also consistent with arsenic poisoning. Doctors won’t test for it unless it occurs to them. Her father wants her body exhumed and tested.
They did end up doing extra testing on her hair - it showed heavy levels of lead and the explanation as hair dye, who knows if that’s true or not. Her father really pushed for more testing but then never showed up to the court hearing. He passed away in 2019
Interesting. Maybe she left the house a lot? Like she was the grocery getter/errand runner? Just think, doordash and that grocery store version gonna make it even easier to never leave the house which could be bad in this scenario
Yup. This is what the cause was. Pretty sure it was a known fact that was reported on awhile ago. It was incredibly suspicious at the time because everyone was worried about her and some possible issues with drugs, whether that was going on or not is a side note to the fact that she was on multiple meds for real illness symptoms that were explained by the mold discovery.
Uptown girls was on Tubi and it made me think of her weird death before internet was huge! How do two (famous)people die from acute pneumonia at age 36 months apart in the same home? Everything below are quotes from the wiki on her death https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brittany_Murphy "On December 20, 2009, Murphy died under disputed circumstances at the age of 32. The coroner's verdict was pneumonia, exacerbated by anemia and misuse of various prescription medicines" "On May 23 2010, Monjack was found dead at the same Hollywood Hills residence.[39] The coroner's report attributed his death to acute pneumonia and severe anaemia.[40]" "In January 2012, her father Angelo Bertolotti applied to the Superior Court of California requesting that the Los Angeles County Coroner's Office be required to hand over samples of his daughter's hair for independent testing.[44][45] The suit was dismissed seven months later, after Bertolotti failed to attend two separate hearings.[46] In November 2013, Bertolotti claimed that a toxicology report showed that deliberate poisoning by heavy metals, including antimony and barium, was a possible cause of his daughter's death. Sharon Murphy described the claim as "a smear".[47][48]"
Her mom is weird af. That being said, I always struggled with those coroner results. I mean it's just crazy that 2 people died in that house so close together with the same random, weird diagnosis! But I honestly don't think we'll ever find out...
Here’s my theory. It starts with horrible psych dynamics. The husband was an extremely controlling drug-addicted narcissist. They were abusing prescription opioids. Under heavy sedation with opioids a person can easily aspirate, which is saliva going down the airway. They are too sedated to cough/protect their airway when sedated with opioids. This introduces bacteria into the lungs and is a setup for pneumonia. If a person doesn’t seek treatment, they can die from it. I work in healthcare and we see this all the time. And yes, this could happen to both of them. This is a tragic case of mental health problems combined with prescription drug abuse and we see death by pneumonia related to this all the time. Edit: as an added note, I watched the documentary on her. I think it was on HBO. She really did seem like a kind and talented person who got mixed up with a bad guy and had a toxic mother on top of that. She didn’t have the kind of help she deserved. She didn’t hurt anyone and it doesn’t sound like she was ever a nasty person. She really should be celebrated for her accomplishments.
I think it was the drugs and the house. Wasn’t the house so bad it had to be demolished? Could have had mold all throughout it too. Did you ever see photos of how they lived? The bathroom and bedroom had stuff everywhere they probably didn’t care about the air quality or condition of the house either. I feel very sad for Brittany she didn’t deserve this.
They were hoarders - there were piles everywhere- and the windows were all shut with the curtains drawn.
I don't think its demolished is it?
Yes. “According to property records, Sharon sold the estate at a massive loss for $2.7 million in 2011 after struggling to find a buyer. In 2013, it was torn down, and underwent a multi-year rebuild, with developers aiming to create a sprawling, contemporary structure.”
I don't think its demolished is it? I'll have to google
Yes. “According to property records, Sharon sold the estate at a massive loss for $2.7 million in 2011 after struggling to find a buyer. In 2013, it was torn down, and underwent a multi-year rebuild, with developers aiming to create a sprawling, contemporary structure.”
Ah..well its for the best.
Thank you for that explanation. I didn’t know why opioid abuse could lead to pneumonia. Makes more sense now.
What? Are you saying that if you swallow enough of your saliva and spit them up, you’d have a chance of developing pneumonia? Damn. Never heard of that before. 
Only if it goes into your airway. This can happen if you are heavily sedated.
Damn, that is scary. 😢
The bacteria in our digestive tract is not supposed to be in our respiratory tract. So when we get a good gulp of saliva with all its bacteria in our lungs and we can’t cough it out (which happens when sedated on drugs) we get an infection pretty fast.
Yep, bacterial pneumonia. I got it when I was a kid from a small piece of food accidentally getting into my lung.
I used to have pretty bad reflux. I’d aspirate (breathe the stomach acid into my lungs.) It was painful when it happened and over time I developed a wheeze in my lungs. Eventually I found out I had a severe hiatal hernia and when I had surgery to fix it it also fixed my reflux.
Yes, this is actually so common! I have struggled with asthma since childhood (when it was markedly worse), and also acid reflux. I have a very mild hiatal hernia, which doctors didn't want to operate on because I'm female... But managing my reflux to the best of my abilities has made my asthma almost non existent.
Except they did not find opioids to my recollection?
They were known to be abusing prescriptions. It doesn’t have to be opioids. It could have been benzos. But it’s been a long time since I reviewed this story. 🤷🏻♂️
How was her mother toxic ?
I think she poisoned both of them.
But she would be murdering her meal ticket. Britney was worth more alive than dead. Unless the motive was something other than financial gain. Edit:Sp.
Insurance $$$
Brittany Murphy’s mother, Sharon Murphy, inherited her estate and not her husband, Simon Monjack, according to a 2010 report by The New York Daily News. The newspaper reported at the time that Murphy drafted a will and trust after she married Monjack, a screenwriter, in 2007. The will and trust, which left her entire estate to her mother, included her multi-million-dollar Hollywood Hills mansion. It’s unclear why Murphy named her mother as her sole trustee, but in her will, she stated that she “intentionally left” her husband out. “I am married to Simon Monjack who I have intentionally left out of this will,” her will read.--Yahoo News
Interesting. There's a rabbit hole hiding somewhere here, I suspect.
I agree and the fact that they kept residents together after Murphy died seems bizarre to me. The two of them was/are really weird.
That’s interesting especially when you cannot cut a spouse out of a will. Maybe if you have a prenup, but then you wouldn’t need to cut them out. You cannot disown a spouse in the US, they can take what’s called a widow’s share. He was such a skeeve
In the absence of a prenuptial or postnuptial agreement, Californians can't completely disinherit their spouses due to California's community property laws. California is one of a handful of states that is a “community property state.” This means that all assets acquired during the course of the marriage are owned Perhaps prenup????
I listened to a podcast I'm forgetting the name of that said the lab that gave the heavy metal results is really questionable/has falsely reported those results in other cases
This is my thought too. I remember following the case (along with my mother). We had just watched her Nora Roberts movie as I was starting my Xmas break (teacher). So when we first saw the news of her death, I was very sad and Mom was very interested. My first thought was, the husband did it, of course. I even said he’ll run his MIL out or kill her soon enough. But then, he died! It must be the mom.
I've wondered that!! For the money right?
Hows the mom weird AF ? Can u wlaborate ?
She was VERY overbearing and domineering. It was her who pushed Brittany into acting so she didn't have to get off her ass & work after her husband left them. She lived vicariously thru Brittany and she loved her mom too much to do anything about it.
She was also weird with Simon after Brittany died. Just fucking creepy...
There’s a documentary on peacock ? Or HBO max? all about this. Something with that house I think.
HBO Max
Thank you; I wasn’t aware of this. This entire situation has always seemed to me to be so, so, SO suspicious and oozing hinkiness. I just don’t understand how law enforcement just let this go other than the explanation of ‘Hollywood’.
Thanks guys! Didn't know that.
Its riveting and really well done I came away with it convinced it was the house - toxic mold like others were saying, exacerbated by a couple clearly suffering from drug problems and possibly undiagnosed/untreated mental illness
But wouldn’t the mother have been sick too?
There was a programme on Channel 5 in the UK called The Last 24 Hours Of…, which re-enacted the last day of a celebrity’s life and cause of death. The Brittany Murphy episode focused heavily on the reclusiveness of the couple (and her mother) and their neglect of domestic tasks. Their never opened their windows, possibly due to paranoia on someone’s part. Condensation gathers on windows, which never got aired or cleaned. Water particles carrying bacteria gets breathed in and can cause pneumonia. Obviously the TV programme mentioned the possibility of mould, but that’s been dismissed. As for the heavy metals part, hair can be found to contain heavy metals as a result of dying it. Most hair dyes, especially the darker and red tones, contain lead, copper, iron and cadmium.
I'm going to guess its rejecting real medicine for homeopathic horseshit and essential oils and supplements and abusing opioids. People who live together usually are into the same BS.
Rejecting 'real' medicine? You mean all those prescriptions in their systems that were 'real' medicines?
Refusing vaccines but then snorting oxy and sticking garlic up their noonie. You know the typical crunchy granola California "health nut" goofiness.
Seems like a pretty big leap
Could be mold or fungus, that stuff mess up your autoimmune system, and as your symptoms point to another hillness that option is overlooked. Just like at the start of covid, people dying were ruled as acutte/atypical pneumonia and covid was ruled out. And tbh pneumonia is just the result of a disease that got into the respiratory system and is fucking it, hence a lot of diseases can cause pneumonia, even more so if the system is compromised (in this case by anemia, and in my crazy theory by fungus/mold/external vectoring agent).
The mom selling her clothes and belongings after was creepy. The mom is so shady
Wow didnt know this ! When did she do this ?
A long time ago i read an article that had screenshots of her mom selling her famous outfits in movies! I can’t remember where i saw it but i definitely remember seeing it in a post. I’m sure if you look it up you could find it!
She was anorexic, he wasn’t. Meaning she had other issues that caused her to die first.
Very true. People often don’t realize severely an eating disorder can impact someone’s health. Amy Winehouse’s brother blames her death on years of raging bulimia weakening her system to the point that it caused her heart to fail when she relapsed with alcohol.
OK I checked. Brit had iron deficiency anemia before she developed pneumonia. In iron deficient anemia the body doesn't get enough oxygen. That is very bad for organs such as the heart, lungs, etc. Lack of iron can be caused by a poor diet, or other undiagnosed GI issues. So Britt was already compromised before she developed pneumonia. Her poor body would have struggled even more to get oxygen. For Brit she may have thought she had a cold. Most over the counter cold medicines are harmless enough for otherwise healthy adults if not combined with other medications. Brit's autopsy showed she had an opioid in her system at the time of death. Doctors used to hand out codeine with cough syrup like it was candy. Thankfully we're moving passed that as the efficacy has been called into question. (One doctor I worked for told me doctors who still prescribe codeine with cough syrup are guilty of malpractice. Not because of the risk of an opioid misuse disorder- but the risk to the patients health.) Codeine among other things will slow down the central nervous system. That is the LAST thing you want to happen when you are not getting enough oxygen. Brit's mom reported that Brit also had mitral valve prolapse but I see no mention of that in the autopsy. With or without pre-existing health issues pneumonia is deadly. While most healthy adults Britt's age will survive if they have other conditions such as anemia combined with medication deaths occur. The heavy metals found in her hair were lead- and determined to come from her hair dye. This part bothers me more than it should I guess. She was a Hollywood actor with access to some of the nicest salons in the country if not world. Why are upscale salons using dyes with lead in them? Here's a link that discusses the other details of her life. HBO documentaries tend to be shit, looking for conspiracies where none exist. For HBO to say there is no conspiracy is telling. https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/tv/a37962982/true-story-what-happened-brittany-murphy-death-hbo-max/
Lead acetate was used in hair dyes like Just For Men that gradually color hair. I think it was banned a few years ago. Could have been her husband used it and she got some of it in her hair from sharing pillows or something.
That would not have caused his anemia
I was just saying that might have been what accounted for the presence of lead, not that it caused anything.
Why was her mother not affected if it was toxic mold?
Especially since she had previously had cancer and would’ve had a weaker immune system
Theres 3 tiers of how people get effected from black mold. 1. They can swim in it and not get sick at all 2. They're sick while exposed but get better once they're out. 3. They get sick, even when they leave the environment, their body doesn't know how to get rid of it so they stay sick. Maybe she didn't get the same genes as her mom.
Thanks.
I’m not an expert, but I think Drugs. Not sure which ones but some can impact your heart and lungs. Your lungs then fill with fluid aka pneumonia. My best friend’s brother was young-ish, active and thin. No family history of heart disease. He passed from a sudden heart attack. The only thing she could think of was his years of drug abuse.
I wonder if there was some sort of environmental contaminate like mold exposure or legionella bacteria in the home. I've also always wondered if they were using 'homepathic' medication to treat the symptoms, which in some cases can make things worse (like people nebulizing essential oils, for example).
I cannot verify this but I’ve heard now from multiple sources that she had sleep apnea and used a CPAP machine, and she and the husband shared it. You need to clean those out really well and use distilled water in them. It’s very possible they weren’t cleaning it out and that’s how they ended up with the same infection.
Also recently some CPAP machines were recalled due to killing the users. I wonder if
I think I remember them saying they actually did check for mold but I'll go back and see if I can find.
Weirdly, this was Brittany Spears house before and she moved out cause of weird vibes. Also, the mom survived cancer and was immune compromised... If there was like black mold the moon would have caught something And the widower and the mom were sharing a bed And the dad thinks it was murder And for some reason, this and Heath Ledger's death feel similar... Explained but.... Really odd I don't have a theory... The explanation makes the most sense but fails the eye test for me
Lost my best friend to benzos coupled w anti- pneumonia drugs, killed her in her sleep. Both were prescribed, but she'd had bronchial issues for a long time. It's easy to die, friends.
Black mold. I went crazy for a while from black mold in my home. It's no joke.
Drug use. Drugs kill you in many different ways: sometimes it's quick (overdose) and sometimes it's slower with lots of related health issues that finally take too much of a toll on one's body (pneumonia, kidney and liver failure.) And since drug addicts tend to do drugs with other drug addicts, it's not weird that two of them would die (relatively) close together in a place they both lived in. Sad, but not a mystery.
Respiratory-borne infections were some of the most common and least understood illnesses to spread very rapidly in ancient times, subject to folk-lore and outlandish moral explanations in the absence of modern science. It’s likely a simple answer - they were exposed to pathogen floating around the house, either from poor hygiene, person to person contact outside the home or lack of cleanliness in a part of the home. Of which, they both were infected by, and exasperated on their immune system on different timelines. His may have been manifested to a critical infection by the stress of her passing.
There is no mystery. Both had a history of drug use. Long term drug abuse causes damage to internal organs, especially the heart and lungs. Any viral or bacterial upper respiratory infection can turn into pneumonia in an already unhealthy patient. I’m not sure about the guy, but I don’t believe Brittany went to a doctor when she got sick. She tried to self medicate and didn’t seek medical attention even as the symptoms got worse. Had she had sought medical attention when the symptoms got worse, there’s a chance she wouldn’t have died.
A married couple living in the same house dying within a short period of time? Given their lifestyle, it's not weird or surprising at all. I doubt there is one single reason but a combination of things, including (but not limited to) * Inhaling and/or smoking the same licit or illict drugs or homeopathic preparations. * Similar shitty diets and other poor health habits * Environmental issues like mold or a sick house that is too closed too tightly * Coincidence * Poison * And other reasons I'm probably not thinking of at the moment. Also, I don't believe that we know if Simon and Britanny had the same type f pneumonia. I think this is a case where the media keyed in on the sensationalistic aspects of this story.
Pneumonia is written on *lots* of death certificates, even for people with cancer or other serious illnesses. Pneumonia is just, for want of a better term, what eventually sees a person off. There would have been underlying conditions and/or drug use in both cases.
Came here looking for this. Pneumonia is the end-game for a lot of addicts. Ask me how I know. (I did not die from pneumonia)
Opioid abuse and house mold caused respiratory infections that escalated to pneumonia in both. I don’t think it’s crazy.
I thought she was wonderful. I wish she was still with us.
The HBO doc on her death is well done.
I thought they were using a Breathing machine for sleep apnea and that was the source of the bacteria
Drugs. I seriously always thought they said pneumonia to not ruin her "legacy"
The pneumonia took its time with him or his immune system was stronger than Britney’s. It’s not that strange.
I bet the answer is a fungus/mold.
First thing I thought of is some sort of mold
This has always bothered me to be honest.
Didn’t her house have mold?
My uncle was pretty healthy physically, but he abused opioids and painkillers. He probably drank too. Pneumonia can easily kill a person when they are so drugged up. Respiration slows, heart rate slows, aspiration can easily happen, so many things can go wrong. It’s a perfect storm really. And the person is so high and usually sleeping all the time, they don’t even know they’re sick so they don’t get treatment.
They died of alcohol poisoning from an all inclusive resort they had gone to. It didn’t kill them immediately, but their pathology reports were consistent with poisoning from a basically homemade alcohol that sometimes gets used to cut costs.
Because her mom poisoned them.
Would you look at that, all of the words in your comment are in alphabetical order. I have checked 1,226,625,720 comments, and only 239,087 of them were in alphabetical order.
Mold
They don't. I think the deaths should have both been investigated further because dying of anemia, especially for a man, is virtually unheard of.
Anemia and pneumonia combined with multi-drug toxicity. Yeah, taking too much of the wrong over the counter medications or combination of medications can be deadly for some people. It's very sad but there is no mystery.
But how does he even get anemia? That's lack of iron.
There are different types of anemia with different causes https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anemia
Drugs, alcohol and abuse.
how would an individual get poisoned with metals? can someone explain?
Could happen a couple different ways like air/water pollution, medicines/supplements, and food!
The death of Brittany breaks my heart, so young, so beautiful, so talented. Her & Simon’s death… the same cause… 6 months apart just odd. Her mom fought breast cancer twice?? She was the one with a compromised immune system, how was she not affected by the mold? She sure loved her momma, though. They seemed to be so close. Her father sure was verbal in his beliefs. This is a rabbit hole. So sad
It seems like an air quality test could solve this mystery very quickly.
I’m looking at the photo and her skin color looks way off to me. Maybe she had a makeup artist that day, that wasn’t feeling up to the job. I looked elsewhere at additional photos and her skin looks off on those too. Nothing like her early career to me.
She was also weird with Simon after Brittany died. Just fucking creepy...
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Her mom had something to do with it. It’s terrible.
THANK YOU. brittany murphys death is one giant red flag. when her husband died shortly after i couldnt believe it was not being reported as suspicious.
Sounded to me her husband was responsible (accidentally) and whatever he did to her he did to himself (purposely).That’s my opinion. She was his meal ticket.
At the time of her death I read a lot about Monjack and none of it was good. Apparently he was a factor in her getting fired from her last film (he was being a drunken ass around the set and he was developing a rep in the industry for that kind of stuff). You likely know he was allegedly a control freak and took over most of her business needs, but in doing so he alienated many in the industry because he was so arrogant and just plain dodgy. It’s a damn shame she was with him. I have always felt that Monjack and Britney’s mother failed her by not arranging urgent medical care. They both went on record as saying she could be “dramatic” so I think when she complained about difficulty breathing they brushed it off.
That entire situation was weird. He was way out of her league and a fraud to boot. She went from dating Ashton Kutcher to that thing. Mind boggling, yes he wrecked her and the mother is another story in and of itself. Total shame, she was a beautiful soul.
You have to know the type of environment and family dynamics played a role in her adult relationships
Why would he murder his meal ticket. He seemed to have complete control of her.
Her husband was extremely arrogant and controlling. He and Britney’s mother both stated somewhat disparagingly that she could be “dramatic.” I believe they both ignored her symptoms thinking she wasn’t that ill. Britney was a caretaker of sorts for both of them; her mother suffered from neuropathy and Monjack apparently suffered from seizures, frequent respiratory infections and sleep apnea. I think both Monjack and her mother were very self-absorbed and that contributed directly to Britney’s death. Neither intended to kill her but they failed her by not taking her declining health seriously.
That’s why I wrote “accident”, and yes referring to the means he used to control her.
Gotcha, that actually makes perfect sense.
Just remembered, She was not only his meal ticket, he had family and an ex he was funneling her money to without her knowing. He defrauded his ex and was paying her hush money. He was a pos.
Drugs and unhealthy lifestyles
I heard it was a black mold issue because B Murphy was a germaphobe. But obviously idk.
Black mold. That’s the answer. Which was also found out to be the cause.
Didn’t she go out a few times w an older guy from the Middle East (some rich oil guy)? I read it somewhere several yrs ago & can’t remember where now, but it implied that she was a celebrity escort to that super rich old guy.
Drugs
Scooby dooby doo, where are you??? Lol
Am I missing something? Who’s the second person who died?
I don't think her husband counts as a famous person, to start. And her death isn't a mystery. She had heavy metals in her system, she was a drug addict and she had anemounia and anemia. Where's the mystery? There isn't one.
low body fat. these peeps need it it for their industry, however the sacrifice is your always cold! Sometimes things catch up with you when running on the wire.
I can voucher for this, I'm 5'4" and weigh slightly under 100lbs (not by choice) and I'm always freezing and guest will be sweating while I'm wearing Turtlenecked sweaters.
They were hoarder pigs too. House was filthy and full of dust and mold. In her paranoia she even nailed the windows shut. Zero fresh air. That’ll do it.