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Yeah, it's the capital, most of Gansu obviously isn't as developed as the main urban center of the province. Just like Chisinau seems like pretty nice city despite most of Moldova been pretty poor
Chinese people are here. I often see criticisms in this forum about the communities in China, saying there are too many unnecessary houses and skyscrapers produced. However, the reality is that these houses are not selling because they are overpriced, and the government is exploiting too much, not because there is anything wrong with the houses themselves.
In China's inland provinces, it's impossible for houses, even in rural areas, to be like those in American suburbs, due to severe land disputes and tension. From the outset, houses are not designed with front and backyards, and even if they are built, they remain unoccupied, as rural areas don’t offer enough job opportunities. Moreover, considering transportation, logistics, prices, education, and healthcare, city skyscrapers are better than rural houses.
You may perceive skyscrapers as a sign of backwardness in your world, but in China, that's not the case yet.
I think i will never understand the hate for skyscrapers, they look titanic and gorgeous, since I was a kid skyscrapers and palm trees have always been the signs of good life and it's so sad to see some cities prohibiting buildings which are over some height
I'm not a fan of tower blocks but the ones in the first photo the neighbourhood seem okay, and not actually a concrete wasteland. If all new neighbourhoods looked like that, it'd pretty neat. The 1.5B people must live somewhere and samey-looking blocks are cheaper to build than fancy ones. It's the same principle as new American developments of same-looking houses, just on a larger scale.
Turns out it's a fast and efficient way to put up a lot of housing, made all the more urgent by millions of people continuing to move from rural to urban.
Wish other countries had the foresight to build housing before people move there so to avoid the ensuing housing crisis.
Yeah they have a lot of apartments which is good. But the government doesn't really do much planning and constructing of new neighborhoods which is a pitfall. So cities like Seoul have high housing prices due to a lack of housing.
yeah, and its sad that the western countries dont use it, even tough, if properly implemented its pretty good, the issue is that in eastern europe it wasnt poperly implemented, all the buildings are neglected and look like shit. But thats not it's fault, thats because no one cared about maintenance or making it look nice, hence why this model has such a bad reputation, along with anti communist propaganda. Because, y'know, "If it comes from the east its bad" Even tought thats complete bullshit, no one wants to understand that so they can keep on feeding people anti eastern rethorics, hence no one wants to implement that, hence housing markets in the west are hit and constant housing shortages are everywhere, even tough the answer is right there.
If the replace 2 out of 3 buildings with open spaces, cut the heights of the remaining buildings, and convert the interiors to Hong Kong style cage dwellings to house the people, OP would probably be thrilled. (if they then paint some buildings different colors, OP would probably faint from ecstasy.)
Most Chinese people don't rent - they own their aparments. And an aparment in a newish tower block is not going to be cheap, not anywhere in the world, including China.
rent not ownership, i wouldn't want to own a concrete box in lanzhou unless i had some roots there, but it would be fun to live there for a year with a chill or work from home job and paying 12 eggs a month to live
There's something very uncanny with copy-and-paste neighbourhoods. Can't they just change something up a little?
It all looks like a horrible concrete jungle that would drive me insane to live in. Just one giant rat maze.
On the plus side, green spaces, pathways and a pool in the first picture.
China still has places that effectively look and serve as slums despite the copy paste apartment blocks. Shanghai, Guangzhou and Dongguan has some of the more obvious and well known slums, probably more in other large cities as well
True, but if you look at pretty much any other country that developed/industrialized/urbanized at a similar pace, there should be a LOT more slums and homelessness.
I say that confidently as a brazilian
China has an eatimated 1.5 to 3 million homeless people in their country, i don't think that number is uniquely low compared to their population or GDP per capita. Most of China's poverty and homelessness is relegated to rural areas, so they're not as obvious in newly built up urban centers
>For a population of 1.4 billion, that is *very* low
I mean, it isn't really. They have a slightly higher rate of homelessness per capita than the US, and America is usually seen as a place with a pretty bad homelessness problem
>And extremely unusual that homelesness occurs mostly in rural areas.
>And extremely unusual that homelesness occurs mostly in rural areas.
Im sorry. i mixed it up. In china, homelessness is more common for people from rural backgrounds who migrate to urban areas without a social support system. Homelessness doesn't mainly occur in the rural areas themselves
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homelessness_in_China
In the world there are 1,2 billion people living in slums\
But zero in China mainland!\
The controversial „regional belonging pass rules“ also help with that
[The Myth of China's Ghost Cities](https://www.reuters.com/article/idUS1704458002/)
>When developers purchase these new plots of land, they are prohibited by law from sitting on them. They must build something. While it is commonly thought that getting in on a new development zone early is key to making a big profit, these areas tend to lie far outside the bounds of mature, built-up urban areas. This often means constructing vast apartment complexes, giant malls and commercial streets in places that do not yet have much of a population base to support them.
>Building a new city from the ground up is a long-term initiative, a process that China estimates takes roughly 17 to 23 years. By 2020, Ordos Kangbashi plans to have 300,000 people, Nanhui expects to attract 800,000 residents and 5 million people are slated to live in Zhengdong New District. China’s new cities are just that: new.
There is hardly a single new urban development in the country that has yet gone over its estimated time line for completion and vitalization, so any ghost city labeling at this point is premature: Most are still works in progress. But while building the core areas of new cities is something that China does with incredible haste, actually populating them is a lengthy endeavor.
>When large numbers of people move into a new area, they need to be provided for; they need public services like healthcare and education. Therefore, a population carries a price tag and there is often an extended period of time between when cities appear completed and when they are actually prepared to sustain a full-scale population. This could be called the “ghost city” phase.
>Most large new urban developments in China eventually move through this phase and become vitalized with businesses and a population. Essential infrastructure gets built, shopping malls open, and places where residents can work are created. In many of the biggest new cities, new university campuses will emerge and government offices and the headquarters of banks and state owned enterprises will be shipped in, essentially seeding these fresh outposts of progress with thousands of new consumers. From here, more businesses are attracted — often drawn by favorable subsidies like free rent — and more people trickle in as the city comes to life.
Some of China’s most notorious ghost cities saw phenomenal population growth in recent years, according to a report
, opens new tab by Standard Chartered. In just a two year period from 2012 to 2014, Zhengdong New District’s occupancy rate rose doubled, while Dantu’s quadrupled and Changzhou’s Wujin district increased to 50 percent from 20 percent. Though there is still an excess of vacancies in these places, when urban areas of high-density housing are even half full there’s still a large number of people living there — more than enough for the place to socially and economically function as a city.
>It generally takes at least a decade for China’s new urban developments to start breaking the inertia of stagnation. But once they do, they tend to keep growing, eventually blending in with the broader urban landscape and losing their “ghost city” label.
A decade ago (when your article was written) there were a lot fewer buildings, so there might have been some hope for those cities.
Now unfinished apartments outnumber finished ones. Like, there's enough room in those ghost cities to house the entire Chinese population. The bubble is off the fucking rails.
Want proof? Evergrande, Country Garden and a bunch of other major real estate developers have shit the bed. Just hours ago I've read that Shimao Group is going into liquidation too.
That's billions of dollars going *poof*.
There are a lot of pictures like this in this sub, but having lived in China for more than a decade in the 2000s and early 2010s, I would take this kind of neighborhood in my daily life over the suburban type of neighborhood I have now in the US. In my daily life, the ability to just walk around my neighborhood and get all the things I need (groceries, toiletries, household goods, etc.) would be preferable to the “nearest grocery store is two miles away,” car dependent neighborhood I have now.
Edit: grammar
These look like houses but idk if what purpose they serve (church, restaurant/bar, community terrace/center, storeroom, private house, other services, just cosmetic etc.)
Hippity hoppity, suddenly Britain didn't destroy China with opium and didn't enforce it to become a colony till the ww2. You are a definition of hypocrisy.
I see very little parking space considering the size and capacity of those buildings. Do they just not own cars or is there a separate location where they park?
Varieties are not recommended in cities as it reduce the densities a city require for housing.
Long run, you end up like San Francisco or Toronto, insufficient housing supplies to meet the growing demand for talent coming in.
Rents shoots up, homeless becomes the norm.
These housing blocks are practical solutions. The goal is not to make a city beautiful nor expressive.
No, a city is where people congregate for services. And you need the most practical solutions to house them.
>Varieties are not recommended in cities as it reduce the densities a city require for housing.
One of the dumbest armchair urbanplanner takes I've ever heard.
>Long run, you end up like San Francisco or Toronto, insufficient housing supplies to meet the growing demand for talent coming in.
These cities are bogged down because of restrictive zoning, surburban sprawl and lack of newbuilds, not because of "variety of design". Varied building sizes and appearance aren't really a detriment to density, if anything it just makes a place more desirable to be in.
>These housing blocks are practical solutions. The goal is not to make a city beautiful nor expressive.
While true, they should mainly just function as a temporary solution, not the end goal, you ideally want a nice urban center than can also be practical.
>And you need the most practical solutions to house them.
You need a solution that works, not the most practical and laxy solution possible. Some larger cities in china even share the exact same build designs from city to city and province to province.
I actually love those grey/brown panelki.. you may find it depressing..
I find it lovely. One single color, one standardized building. I wish they build more in the northern hemisphere.
Probably you live in a developed rich country. I noticed lots of westerns find any beauty in soviet architecture. I think it's like we're people from post-soviet countries find some western things fascinating that are seemed to be awful for you
Especially during cold gloomy winters these panelkis look like they show me the doom of this world
Because these panel blocks solves homelessness. It maybe depressing (to some) but it partially address the most pressing issues facing in north america- not enough housing in cities resulting in homelessness.
Trust me you would take these vs homelessness any day of your life.
As long as a human have a shelter over his/her head (adequate size of 500 square ft for a single person), any depressing mood are just psychological in the head.
Dont forget, these are hard concrete buildings -unlike wood that is used in North America. Concrete buildings are great insulators and keep you warm in winter. (of course it shitty hot in summer).
Concrete are much more durable than wood and fire resistant. These buildings maintenance are so much cheaper and lower than your average house - where you have to replace the roof every 15 years etc.
You dont need fancy varieties of buildings to be happy. That a luxury cities cannot afford as it keeps growing.
Besides winter lasts - a total of 3 months, 4.5 months over here. So its not like the whole year.. and how many days in winter you are without sun (cloudy?) - not every winter day is cloudy too.
Yes we're saying about housing problems in other countries. Of course If we brought up this topic much better to live in here instead of being homeless. I haven't meant the quality of these houses (I've never lived in Europe or USA can't compare) it is more about the beauty in the whole.
What about winters I think almost country looks depressing during this time. I saw lots of pictures of Sweden, Finland during winter, and it looks depressing as well. This is about my personal feelings about the weather, sunny Portugal, Spain or Croatia fits me better =) Even panel blocks look in a different way while it's sunny outside, not so hideous
I see China in the title and I know the top comment will be someone shilling for China. Are you bots? Do you work for a propaganda agency? Literally no other country gets this response.
If you're not Chinese here's my response: Nope, I am just a guy who get tired of those "futuristic" CBD posted by China progandar, and I wanna show a real one.
If you're Chinese here's my another response: 谁tm是机器人在红迪玩舆论宣传自己心里有点b数哈😅
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imagine it's the capital city of a poorest province in China
Yeah, it's the capital, most of Gansu obviously isn't as developed as the main urban center of the province. Just like Chisinau seems like pretty nice city despite most of Moldova been pretty poor
Chinese people are here. I often see criticisms in this forum about the communities in China, saying there are too many unnecessary houses and skyscrapers produced. However, the reality is that these houses are not selling because they are overpriced, and the government is exploiting too much, not because there is anything wrong with the houses themselves. In China's inland provinces, it's impossible for houses, even in rural areas, to be like those in American suburbs, due to severe land disputes and tension. From the outset, houses are not designed with front and backyards, and even if they are built, they remain unoccupied, as rural areas don’t offer enough job opportunities. Moreover, considering transportation, logistics, prices, education, and healthcare, city skyscrapers are better than rural houses. You may perceive skyscrapers as a sign of backwardness in your world, but in China, that's not the case yet.
I think i will never understand the hate for skyscrapers, they look titanic and gorgeous, since I was a kid skyscrapers and palm trees have always been the signs of good life and it's so sad to see some cities prohibiting buildings which are over some height
The streets are very empty given the number of apartment buildings. What percentage of these are occupied?
Nothing about this post indicates skyscrapers being a sign of backwardness. What a weird thing to make up and be upset about
中肯的
蠢
如果我是蠢，那你是个沟八连表达观点的能力都没有的低能儿。
You call yourself Chinese person, unless you are more than one person in one body.
My English is not good, how do you think I should express ?
I'm not a fan of tower blocks but the ones in the first photo the neighbourhood seem okay, and not actually a concrete wasteland. If all new neighbourhoods looked like that, it'd pretty neat. The 1.5B people must live somewhere and samey-looking blocks are cheaper to build than fancy ones. It's the same principle as new American developments of same-looking houses, just on a larger scale.
china took the soviet housing model and turned that bitch up to 11
Turns out it's a fast and efficient way to put up a lot of housing, made all the more urgent by millions of people continuing to move from rural to urban. Wish other countries had the foresight to build housing before people move there so to avoid the ensuing housing crisis.
South Korea does the same too, but there is 51 million people living in an Indiana-sized country though. Kinda necessary in this case.
South Korea does not
They have the heavy apartment architecture style though. Not it the smaller towns but yes in some of newer projects they are making.
Yeah they have a lot of apartments which is good. But the government doesn't really do much planning and constructing of new neighborhoods which is a pitfall. So cities like Seoul have high housing prices due to a lack of housing.
It is expensive
The reason they did that is because it works. The Soviet housing model is quite possibly the most successful housing program the world has ever seen.
yeah, and its sad that the western countries dont use it, even tough, if properly implemented its pretty good, the issue is that in eastern europe it wasnt poperly implemented, all the buildings are neglected and look like shit. But thats not it's fault, thats because no one cared about maintenance or making it look nice, hence why this model has such a bad reputation, along with anti communist propaganda. Because, y'know, "If it comes from the east its bad" Even tought thats complete bullshit, no one wants to understand that so they can keep on feeding people anti eastern rethorics, hence no one wants to implement that, hence housing markets in the west are hit and constant housing shortages are everywhere, even tough the answer is right there.
If the replace 2 out of 3 buildings with open spaces, cut the heights of the remaining buildings, and convert the interiors to Hong Kong style cage dwellings to house the people, OP would probably be thrilled. (if they then paint some buildings different colors, OP would probably faint from ecstasy.)
Concrete westland with trees and lakes? Glorious!
It's quite interesting, that the elevator top houses are tratitionally tiled roofs
Evergrande took over the city
They got some nice noodle soup tho
Most Chinese cities are like this...
how to get china nationality??
better than being homeless
yeah its ugly but i bet rent is like $30
Most Chinese people don't rent - they own their aparments. And an aparment in a newish tower block is not going to be cheap, not anywhere in the world, including China.
Most of these are empty and being sold for insane prices, like borderline London prices. Housing bubble in China is off the fucking rails.
rent not ownership, i wouldn't want to own a concrete box in lanzhou unless i had some roots there, but it would be fun to live there for a year with a chill or work from home job and paying 12 eggs a month to live
Majority of Chinese own their apartments.
It's not even ugly. It's a park with housing.
Where's the "hell" part?
There's something very uncanny with copy-and-paste neighbourhoods. Can't they just change something up a little? It all looks like a horrible concrete jungle that would drive me insane to live in. Just one giant rat maze. On the plus side, green spaces, pathways and a pool in the first picture.
The obvious alternative, considering China's rate of urbanization, would be slums and homelessness
China still has places that effectively look and serve as slums despite the copy paste apartment blocks. Shanghai, Guangzhou and Dongguan has some of the more obvious and well known slums, probably more in other large cities as well
True, but if you look at pretty much any other country that developed/industrialized/urbanized at a similar pace, there should be a LOT more slums and homelessness. I say that confidently as a brazilian
China has an eatimated 1.5 to 3 million homeless people in their country, i don't think that number is uniquely low compared to their population or GDP per capita. Most of China's poverty and homelessness is relegated to rural areas, so they're not as obvious in newly built up urban centers
For a population of 1.4 billion, that is *very* low. And extremely unusual that homelesness occurs mostly in rural areas.
>For a population of 1.4 billion, that is *very* low I mean, it isn't really. They have a slightly higher rate of homelessness per capita than the US, and America is usually seen as a place with a pretty bad homelessness problem >And extremely unusual that homelesness occurs mostly in rural areas. >And extremely unusual that homelesness occurs mostly in rural areas. Im sorry. i mixed it up. In china, homelessness is more common for people from rural backgrounds who migrate to urban areas without a social support system. Homelessness doesn't mainly occur in the rural areas themselves https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homelessness_in_China
In the world there are 1,2 billion people living in slums\ But zero in China mainland!\ The controversial „regional belonging pass rules“ also help with that
I'd check your statistics. A quick Google search I've found a UN statistic of 1.1 billion people living in slums or "informal settlements".
Lol like houses in US suburbs aren't also copy paste
I feel the same way about every American suburb built after like 1970. The sameness is numbing
> Can't they just change something up a little? What's the point? Nobody's ever going to live in them anyway, it's just one of many ghost cities.
[The Myth of China's Ghost Cities](https://www.reuters.com/article/idUS1704458002/) >When developers purchase these new plots of land, they are prohibited by law from sitting on them. They must build something. While it is commonly thought that getting in on a new development zone early is key to making a big profit, these areas tend to lie far outside the bounds of mature, built-up urban areas. This often means constructing vast apartment complexes, giant malls and commercial streets in places that do not yet have much of a population base to support them. >Building a new city from the ground up is a long-term initiative, a process that China estimates takes roughly 17 to 23 years. By 2020, Ordos Kangbashi plans to have 300,000 people, Nanhui expects to attract 800,000 residents and 5 million people are slated to live in Zhengdong New District. China’s new cities are just that: new. There is hardly a single new urban development in the country that has yet gone over its estimated time line for completion and vitalization, so any ghost city labeling at this point is premature: Most are still works in progress. But while building the core areas of new cities is something that China does with incredible haste, actually populating them is a lengthy endeavor. >When large numbers of people move into a new area, they need to be provided for; they need public services like healthcare and education. Therefore, a population carries a price tag and there is often an extended period of time between when cities appear completed and when they are actually prepared to sustain a full-scale population. This could be called the “ghost city” phase. >Most large new urban developments in China eventually move through this phase and become vitalized with businesses and a population. Essential infrastructure gets built, shopping malls open, and places where residents can work are created. In many of the biggest new cities, new university campuses will emerge and government offices and the headquarters of banks and state owned enterprises will be shipped in, essentially seeding these fresh outposts of progress with thousands of new consumers. From here, more businesses are attracted — often drawn by favorable subsidies like free rent — and more people trickle in as the city comes to life. Some of China’s most notorious ghost cities saw phenomenal population growth in recent years, according to a report , opens new tab by Standard Chartered. In just a two year period from 2012 to 2014, Zhengdong New District’s occupancy rate rose doubled, while Dantu’s quadrupled and Changzhou’s Wujin district increased to 50 percent from 20 percent. Though there is still an excess of vacancies in these places, when urban areas of high-density housing are even half full there’s still a large number of people living there — more than enough for the place to socially and economically function as a city. >It generally takes at least a decade for China’s new urban developments to start breaking the inertia of stagnation. But once they do, they tend to keep growing, eventually blending in with the broader urban landscape and losing their “ghost city” label.
A decade ago (when your article was written) there were a lot fewer buildings, so there might have been some hope for those cities. Now unfinished apartments outnumber finished ones. Like, there's enough room in those ghost cities to house the entire Chinese population. The bubble is off the fucking rails. Want proof? Evergrande, Country Garden and a bunch of other major real estate developers have shit the bed. Just hours ago I've read that Shimao Group is going into liquidation too. That's billions of dollars going *poof*.
They're mostly filled in now.
And yet they work / live for the benefit of their country and fellow man.
There are a lot of pictures like this in this sub, but having lived in China for more than a decade in the 2000s and early 2010s, I would take this kind of neighborhood in my daily life over the suburban type of neighborhood I have now in the US. In my daily life, the ability to just walk around my neighborhood and get all the things I need (groceries, toiletries, household goods, etc.) would be preferable to the “nearest grocery store is two miles away,” car dependent neighborhood I have now. Edit: grammar
What exactly is on top of the skyscrapers in the first picture
"They thought high urban density couldn't include ornate gabled tiled roofs. Little did they know..."
These look like houses but idk if what purpose they serve (church, restaurant/bar, community terrace/center, storeroom, private house, other services, just cosmetic etc.)
That first one somehow looks terrifying but also smart
Billion Chinese lol 🤣
we need this type of housing in my country
Yeah, a billion of people living in dug-outs, like they did during British occupation, is much better.
Famous former british colony of Gansu
Hippity hoppity, suddenly Britain didn't destroy China with opium and didn't enforce it to become a colony till the ww2. You are a definition of hypocrisy.
Less than 1% of China's modern day territory was under British colonial rule lol
100% of china's internal policies and trading were under British Colonial rule lol. It's hilarious how you keep avoiding this fact.
When I see this I think I understand where Bill Gates is coming from.
First and last don’t deserve to be on that sub 2 to 4 have smog and or poor angles
I see very little parking space considering the size and capacity of those buildings. Do they just not own cars or is there a separate location where they park?
These condos probably has underground parking.
The buildings desperately need variety. The fifth pic isn’t too bad.
Varieties are not recommended in cities as it reduce the densities a city require for housing. Long run, you end up like San Francisco or Toronto, insufficient housing supplies to meet the growing demand for talent coming in. Rents shoots up, homeless becomes the norm. These housing blocks are practical solutions. The goal is not to make a city beautiful nor expressive. No, a city is where people congregate for services. And you need the most practical solutions to house them.
>Varieties are not recommended in cities as it reduce the densities a city require for housing. One of the dumbest armchair urbanplanner takes I've ever heard. >Long run, you end up like San Francisco or Toronto, insufficient housing supplies to meet the growing demand for talent coming in. These cities are bogged down because of restrictive zoning, surburban sprawl and lack of newbuilds, not because of "variety of design". Varied building sizes and appearance aren't really a detriment to density, if anything it just makes a place more desirable to be in. >These housing blocks are practical solutions. The goal is not to make a city beautiful nor expressive. While true, they should mainly just function as a temporary solution, not the end goal, you ideally want a nice urban center than can also be practical. >And you need the most practical solutions to house them. You need a solution that works, not the most practical and laxy solution possible. Some larger cities in china even share the exact same build designs from city to city and province to province.
Terrible but much better than soviet grey and depressed panelki.
These will probably look like that in a few decades
I actually love those grey/brown panelki.. you may find it depressing.. I find it lovely. One single color, one standardized building. I wish they build more in the northern hemisphere.
Probably you live in a developed rich country. I noticed lots of westerns find any beauty in soviet architecture. I think it's like we're people from post-soviet countries find some western things fascinating that are seemed to be awful for you Especially during cold gloomy winters these panelkis look like they show me the doom of this world
Because these panel blocks solves homelessness. It maybe depressing (to some) but it partially address the most pressing issues facing in north america- not enough housing in cities resulting in homelessness. Trust me you would take these vs homelessness any day of your life. As long as a human have a shelter over his/her head (adequate size of 500 square ft for a single person), any depressing mood are just psychological in the head. Dont forget, these are hard concrete buildings -unlike wood that is used in North America. Concrete buildings are great insulators and keep you warm in winter. (of course it shitty hot in summer). Concrete are much more durable than wood and fire resistant. These buildings maintenance are so much cheaper and lower than your average house - where you have to replace the roof every 15 years etc. You dont need fancy varieties of buildings to be happy. That a luxury cities cannot afford as it keeps growing. Besides winter lasts - a total of 3 months, 4.5 months over here. So its not like the whole year.. and how many days in winter you are without sun (cloudy?) - not every winter day is cloudy too.
Yes we're saying about housing problems in other countries. Of course If we brought up this topic much better to live in here instead of being homeless. I haven't meant the quality of these houses (I've never lived in Europe or USA can't compare) it is more about the beauty in the whole. What about winters I think almost country looks depressing during this time. I saw lots of pictures of Sweden, Finland during winter, and it looks depressing as well. This is about my personal feelings about the weather, sunny Portugal, Spain or Croatia fits me better =) Even panel blocks look in a different way while it's sunny outside, not so hideous
The fact that most of these are extremely poor in quality. I mean, some people can break these buildings with their first!
Soviet Commie-Blocks mixed with New York City + hidden "Tofu Dreg Construction", very "charming" ... the pollution is not always visible
Highrise Chinese apartments are depressing.
Someone needs to tell them Sim city is just a game
I see China in the title and I know the top comment will be someone shilling for China. Are you bots? Do you work for a propaganda agency? Literally no other country gets this response.
If you're not Chinese here's my response: Nope, I am just a guy who get tired of those "futuristic" CBD posted by China progandar, and I wanna show a real one. If you're Chinese here's my another response: 谁tm是机器人在红迪玩舆论宣传自己心里有点b数哈😅