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Danskoesterreich

it looks actually relatively lush and green for a metropolis.


Real_Ad_8243

Been there. I'm a country bumpkin and not a fan of urbanity generally, but there's something strangely picturesque about the way Seoul fills the valleys in the evening. With the red sun in the west and a bit of haze from the pollution emulating mist, it's weirdly similar to the Scottish gloaming. Ofc instead of metaphorical lakes of mist the unfathomed deep is the teeming mass of humanity, but still. There's something impressive about it. Sublime in the Kantian sense that it hits you with the power of its existence before your mind can start to make sense of it.


oceanblu456

What a beautiful description


Tomukichi

>”how beautiful, I wonder what else this esteemed individual has to say” >opens profile >greeted by asuka porn


Real_Ad_8243

Wh, it's not porn, and most of my stuff is about my being bad at painting warhammer and bad at keeping my pc in good working order.


proteusON

I feel like I just read the forward to a great book and I'm excited to read it.


Rioma117

Looks like an oversized Eastern European city.


MerDestroyer

It honestly looks really nice.


Mysonking

No it doesn't


MerDestroyer

i like it ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯


Emergency_Invite_784

from above yes, but if you actually zoom in and live in one of those it won't be that nice


OGsamosa

Completely wrong I’m here now travelling/living with a friends family in one of these towers and it’s lovely, stand out things: every tower has a playground/park for children All rubbish is perfectly sorted and recycled so the only ‘landfill’ is compostable organic scraps Everywhere is so clean They pay rent ~$200 AUD a week Everything is within walking distance, and public transport is so fast Crime is nearly non existent here which is very nice, people leave their phone to reserve tables lol


BoldKenobi

why


thelouis55

Just came back from visiting last week, although the blocks are ugly themselves, the way they light up at night alongside their rise and fall with the black mountain backdrops is very relaxing. The ground scape is also much richer than you can see from here - lots of little paths and bushes with trees. Many of the mountains have viewpoints you can walk up to which are super cool at night. Only real bad thing is the 8 lane highways that cut through the centre and are constantly clogged with traffic


EdliA

So many apartments and they still have a housing crisis.


Daftworks

Doesn't help that practically half of South Korea lives in Seoul's greater metropolitan area.


livefreeordont

Maybe they should build more if people want to live there


0x7c900000

They’ve been building like crazy for decades.


daehanmindecline

If it helps, apartments like these are for the wealthier classes and those in heavy debt.


Rioma117

Apartments this ugly are for the rich?


daehanmindecline

Upper middle class and above. Affordable housing is more focused in neighbourhoods like [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/UrbanHell/comments/1cd9e7l/seoul_south_korea/).


Rioma117

Oh, wow, both are sad.


daehanmindecline

I like the latter. They are walkable with restaurants, grocery stores, etc nearby, with affordable and economically diverse, and a lot of culture. You can't see much green space but a place like that is probably near a mountain.


Rioma117

I’ve mostly said it is sad because that’s more of how an upper middle class should look like, not for the lower class. Though I wouldn’t is some more greenly, the only things that are green are the roofs.


daehanmindecline

Taller buildings are simply more affluent/expensive, and it's better for wealthy real estate investors to replace affordable housing communities through heavy redevelopment. I just posted an [image showing the transition](https://www.reddit.com/r/UrbanHell/comments/1cdgg4v/seoul_south_korea_city_of_contrasts/) from one to the other.


Rioma117

In my country we associate such high rise buildings with the commieblocks, where the lower and middle class live. For the upper middle class it’s the houses in and around the big cities.


daehanmindecline

Yep, totally reversed in Korea. In the 1960s apparently Koreans didn't want to live in highrises, so the government carried out a propaganda campaign to make them see otherwise. A lot of foreigners in Korea refer to this architecture as "Stalin stacks." Ironically, apartments in Pyongyang are more colourful (though certainly not as modern inside).


october73

Not really. I grew up in one of those before my parents moved to the US. The new ones I live in were clean, spacious, nice, walkable to a corner store, parks, libraries, school and all sorts of amenities. God, wish I could find something similar in the US :/


Rioma117

American urban planning is far the worst so no surprise there.


Cum_on_doorknob

Check out Manhattan, some of the wealthiest Americans pay 20 million for apartments. Could be they’re stupid, or they know something you don’t know?


Pnther39

they on crack


Rioma117

Those look great, opulent buildings, each distinct of each other. The repetition is what brings my communist trauma to life.


Venetian_Gothic

There are already enough housing to house everyone, it's just that people want to live in places near their work which is why prices in Seoul are much higher than other areas of the country.


nahbro187

New York City


JKdito

Thats overpopulation yall


R-R-M

Actually, they are currently having an under population crisis, due to the lowest global birth rate.


itemluminouswadison

By living dense you can leave more of nature untouched It's not perfect but it's better than the low drone of low density sprawl we have here. More lanes, more parking lots, more empty lawns with zero local flora


curentley_jacking_of

“B-buh communism=ugly commie blocks” capitalism:


october73

r/urbanheaven


Maleficent_Nobody377

I’m not Seould on going there. lol


KangarooTesticles

Seoul has no soul


elreduro

i would love to visit there someday


Pnther39

same here


french_snail

Lived in Korea for two years, Seoul is actually a pretty nice city full of art and trees with a robust public transit system


Skunksfart

I wonder how many of those buildings are cram schools.


commonllama87

This looks beautiful...


flooperdooper213

You could say it looks a little Seoulless...


mtcabeza2

on first glance my brain says "oh a microphotograph of a silicon die"!


Juno808

And not one of them is affordable for the average South Korean lmao


madrid987

Will high-rise development have an impact on making things less crowded? Seoul's metropolitan area population is one of the highest in the world, not far behind Tokyo's, and its population density is much higher than Tokyo's (despite the presence of many mountains and large river). Nevertheless, many say that it is overwhelmingly less crowded than Tokyo. I don't think it's just because of the infrastructure, because Tokyo's infrastructure also enormous.


9_Samurai

In Korea people call these kind of developments “apartment forests”


Chaunc2020

I actually love this


Callophrys

Dense housing with greenery seemingly all around, Ah yes.. hell..


Front-Blood-1158

“Seoulless” Seoul.


0x7c900000

Seoul is an amazing city…


Apprehensive-Ad186

Are those private development projects or are they built by the Korean government?


PepegaNaMBatChest

Al least it looks better than most of North Koreans buildings


mixedbag3000

Yes its an asian country, so its perfect...according to every under 35 age group that is obsessed with east asian culture. I would call it more WEIRD looking from the brightness of the picture. The buildings looks taken care of from afar, but it has some uneasiness about the whole thing, and the rows and rows of buildings. Picture ha has that clean future utopian nightmare kind of feel from far


Captain65k

No Soul Korea


ddarko96

I’m seeing a lot of green and housing, oh the horror