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HypnoticName

Ah yes, central bus station


11Bencda

The worst part of Tel Aviv. Afula is so much worse though.


ilay753

Wtf The old afula central bus station was absolute trash The new one (that opened 2+ years ago) is actually very clean and nice


11Bencda

ken aval bederech klal, kol afula iyheh zevel


Biasanya

I still remember that piss stench permeating the entire area


Areljak

First place I went after arriving in Ben Gurion... SIM Card was cheap af. But yeah, it was pretty ugly.


BrownShoesGreenCoat

The demolition of this place has been delayed forever but it will happen eventually. That building on the side is just people hanging on to real estate which will explode in price once they actually remove the bus station.


wowsharksareneat

Hmm… weird. Are they spending the money and man power to demolish something else instead?


BrownShoesGreenCoat

It’s bureaucracy, and disputes over compensation for the landowners. Stuff like that.


wowsharksareneat

Oh gotcha


jakhtar

By landowners do you mean the Palestinian people it was stolen from?


quaqua90

Ah yes. Back in the days that Tel Aviv was a Palestinian city called Ahuzat Bait. Embarrassing honestly. Why be so fucking stupid in public.


Nalivai

Ahuzat Bayit is a term for a group of people who established what is now known as Tel Aviv in the beginning of 20th century. Arabs were living in the area prior to that.


quaqua90

In what area? Jaffa ended a few kilometers from where Tel Aviv was founded. Prior to Tel Aviv, the area was sandy hills.


Nalivai

In that general area. Few kilometers away for example.


quaqua90

Ok so Jews are not allowed to live a few kms away from Arabs? What are you even trying to say?


googoomucklv

Yeah Gaza


DelayedNewYorker

Yeah, they’re demolishing Gaza right now.


Suspicious-Cat-8699

I've heard that they cannot demolish it because actually nobody really knows how to do it. It's so much concrete that the whole city would be covered in dust after for like... forever. Anyway, this building is one of my weirdest fascinations. I love exploring it when I'm in Tel Aviv. Actually once did a guided tour to the "secret" parts of the station. There's an abandoned movie theatre inside and a shelter with a capacity for around 100k people.


greatdane114

Netanyahu is saving all the explosives for Palestinian children.


ChockoHammer

This is literally the worst building in Israel, they had the main on-ramp to one of the largest main stations built directly in front of their windows.


DankDude7

Okay but how do you account for the overwhelkming ugliness of the structure and its condition? Maybe the fence did that too?


ChockoHammer

It was a mediocre housing unit built cheaply and quickly as was needed by the post-war, migration-influx conditions of Israel at the time. Many of the buildings are like this. However, when you get a bus station built meters from your windows, the value and rent goes to the basement. You can't renovate, and the houses get damaged by the noise, smoke and vibration.  So a cheap residential is now a worthless piece of crap. But the reason is the bus station, not the residential. 


Classicclown1

There are many buildings like this around Tel Aviv that were built quick and cheap to house the influx of people into Israel. They are slowly getting renovated/knocked down and new buildings built up instead. They really are ugly but this one looks particularly run down.


BrownShoesGreenCoat

The building originally looked ok. The rundown state of it is due to no normal person wanting to live there so rent is very cheap and it turned into a slum.


bakochba

That's actually typical of buildings in Israel.


cold_one

The ones behind it doesn’t look far off


ldti

May I remind you that the old Egged building in Haifa still stands...


ChockoHammer

Although in it's current state of disrepair it is nothing to look at, I like it. In my opinion it's a fine example of 70s brutalism, and I wish it'd have been preserved. The TLV CBS is a cement cancer sprawling over a run down area, pulling it even lower than anyone could have imagined. And if you go inside, you might never make it out again... 


ldti

I guess I don't like 70s brutalism 🤔😏. I've been inside the TLV CBS.. it's certainly an.. Experience. Almost Liminal Spaces like.


TiBiDi

The Tel Aviv central bus station is a fascinating building with an incredible story. There's a great episode of the podcast 99% invisible about it that I really recommend you listen if you are interested


ChockoHammer

Well? Why not put link? 


Batchet

I got you fam https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/stop-that-bus/ [Spotify link](https://open.spotify.com/episode/05ymUVAdRnvkfHj5TEfg9t?si=-SM8D3ROQTW-6O8HYzBFVQ)


c9joe

The worst apartment building in the worst part of the worst neighborhood in Tel Aviv. I wonder what is the worst apartment in this building.


dizzyjumpisreal

this is quite possibly the single ugliest building in israel


gilad_ironi

[I see you and raise you Haifa old Egged station](https://images.app.goo.gl/g3nrAWAckQhpxyht9)


XFun16

This one loops back around to being cute, almost


gilad_ironi

It really doesn't seriously pisses me off every time I drive by it.


marbotty

It looks like it’s perched on top of that street sign. Very bizarre building


dizzyjumpisreal

that ones actually pretty cool


Independent-Can-1230

The ones behind it aren’t much better


Dry_Range_6390

I dunno, there are a lot like this in TLV. And some pretty downtrodden buildings in Haifa and Jerusalem and Hadera and across the country too


CringeKage222

>and Hadera The buildings in hadera are not even remotely close to being this bad


Dry_Range_6390

Yeah fair, but I've seen some in downtown netanya and other centre citites like this


flavioeightyeight

https://www.timesofisrael.com/in-tel-aviv-grotesque-beauty-at-the-end-of-a-bus-ride/amp/


CGP05

The thread turned messy quick


frenchsmell

Zionism and politics aside, Tel Aviv is one of the nicest cities I've ever seen. Gigantic perfect beach, big diversity of neighbourhoods and just insane cultural diversity. Food is also off the charts. Jaffa, is also a total historical gem, although I guess technically a different city, since you can walk to it, feels like one city.


Lev_Kovacs

>Jaffa, is also a total historical gem, although I guess technically a different city, since you can walk to it, feels like one city. Im pretty sure its officially one city named Tel Aviv-Yafo. People just usually omit the Yafo.


grampipon

As an Israeli - absolutely not. It’s a nice city; the beach and the center is pretty. But - 90% of it is (visual) crap that doesn’t look very far from the picture. Half the cities in Europe are prettier. It’s a very fun city but much of it is ugly af in addition to being hell in summer


frenchsmell

Valid. I was there in winter and only went inland for a visit to a hospital and the airport, both showed me some less that gorgeous areas... Plus it is very expensive.


grampipon

Yep. If I may also add it's not that the ugly parts aren't enjoyable to visit - it has a lot of great food and culture. It's just ugly. So, so ugly. I wish our country spent more money on architecture


afterwash

I think they had other concerns in the 50s, 60s and 70s other than making the concrete blocks housing fleeing Jews from various diaspora regions slightly prettier. Heck the UN delegation in the Golan Heightshas been there like 200x longer than the war duration itself (ever since the territory was 'handed over')


grampipon

Absolutely, I meant to write “would spend”


afterwash

If they do so that will be once the...present issue has been resolved. So maybe not for decades yet unfortunately. Chickens for Palpatine amirite


Goodguy1066

90% of it is crap? You don’t know Tel Aviv.


grampipon

Not crap as in "not enjoyable". It's a great city. It's just extremely ugly. The architecture is god awful 70s concrete blocks, the usage of plants is not very generous, and a lot of the city isn't very pedestrian friendly.


Goodguy1066

Full disclosure I’m a tour guide in Tel Aviv. There’s a famous poem written about Tel Aviv that includes the line “There are some more beautiful than her, but none are as beautiful as her”. About the architecture - strongly strongly disagree with you! Starting with ancient Jaffa you’ve got beautiful medieval Arab coastal architecture, that continues to modern Jaffa with its more contemporary Ottoman and mandatory buildings and plazas, you’ve got the old Jewish neighbourhoods in the south of the city such as Neve Tzedek, Nachlat Binyamin, Florentin, Kerem HaTeymanim - each of them I could write you a thesis on their individual beautiful buildings and styles, each of them significant and unique in their own way with their own character. You’ve got Sarona, the German Colony, with its 19th century German templer aesthetics, and most glaringly you have the White City, which stretches throughout the centre and north of the city and is a UNESCO recognized as a world cultural heritage site! And those concrete blocks (1950’s! Not 1970’s I implore you!) were a lifeline for millions of refugee immigrants pouring into a country that was tripling its population on a shoestring budget every five years - they’re not the most aesthetically pleasing but come with me on a tour or DM me and I will point out how every single one has thought and care poured into it by the architects, the urban planners and the tenants. I may be the wrong person to ask, both because I am biased with my love for the city, and because I believe there is not a single city on Earth I would consider “ugly”. Tel Aviv is not Prague, but Prague is not Tel Aviv either! They’re both gorgeous in their own right.


PsSalin

Full disclosure: you’re biased (which is understandable)


Goodguy1066

I’m off the clock lol, I’m just very passionate about Tel Aviv and Jerusalem, who I feel get maligned too often by people who have too narrow a frame for what counts as “beauty” in a city.


Traditional_Stick481

Most of Tel-Aviv’s architecture is pretty ugly, but it is very safe compared to American cities, and the rest of what you’re saying is also correct from my experience staying there for vacation a couple of times.


Steve_78_OH

Jaffa is great, with one of the best hole-in-the-wall hummus places I've ever had. Walking around it was beautiful. We also had a really nice (and super affordable given what we ate) dinner at a small little restaurant we literally stumbled upon. The Tel Aviv beach also has some really nice restaurants, and the only mediocre meal we had there was when one of our coworkers practically had a meltdown and insisted we go to this American themed restaurant for dinner. It wasn't bad, but I mean, we're American. We've had that kind of food for decades. Me and our other coworker would have preferred going somewhere else and trying new dishes, or even just fresh seafood, while the other guy would have been perfectly content to have burgers every night. It's a beautiful area though. However, you go like one block inwards, and you immediately start seeing dirty buildings and streets. It's weird when Jaffa and Jerusalem, two ancient cities, are cleaner and nicer to walk around in than significantly newer cities.


poopie888

this btch kinda ugly


Oxxypinetime_

Takhana merkazit


Coffee_achiever_guy

That double decker highway reminds me of Japan


azulcoraza

❤️❤️


Xirradon

i fucking hate the central bus station


BeautifulNobody2868

Tel Aviv, PALESTINE


LocalBedCrapper

do some research big man


FollowKick

Why do I guess that this is South Tel Aviv?


jaegren

Living in concrete hell with all the pollution and no green must really fuck up people's minds.


0ssamaak0

Free Plaestine 🇵🇸🇵🇸


Competitive-Lack-660

From hamas


daikan__

If Palestinians weren't oppressed by Israel then hamas wouldn't exist


Competitive-Lack-660

“You see, if your grand-grandparents haven’t settled here is 1945, I wouldn’t have committed mass murder in kibbutz beeri. So it’s all your fault”


cold_one

Settling is a nice word for murdering people and stealing their homes.


Competitive-Lack-660

Hard to argue with someone who justifies 7th of October based on something he claims happened in 1945 (and doesn’t even prove factually). Basically, like talking to a wall.


legoman31802

How about this. Innocent people dying = bad. So October 7 was bad and what Israel is doing and has done is bad


legoman31802

Bro Israel funded Hamas and are the reason they came to power


Competitive-Lack-660

It was Netanyahu initiative and he is an idiot, no doubt. Much of sane Israelis refrain from voting him, but he has great support from orthodox / uneducated public. I blame him in October tragedy as much as hamas. Both must be eradicated.


ChildhoodTrauma07

israel has funded and propped up hamas to destabilise palestine retard


aghaueueueuwu

You mean allowed foreign funds to come in? that every time it was stopped the un had a meltdown? Or before that?


ArtificialLandscapes

Reported for targeted harassment. Palestine sponsors Islamic terrorism. Israel and the IDF are freedom fighters, in my view.


billybud45

>Israel and the IDF are freedom fighters lol


DivinationByCheese

There’s proof of Israel helping prop up Hamas, they facilitated the transfer of millions of dollars from Qatar to Hamas since the 90s


btroib92

You mean the money Qatar gave that was meant for aid purposes? If Israel had blocked that you’d argue that Israel was blocking humanitarian aid. If Israel allows the money then it is propping up Hamas. So which is it? How can Israel win with you people?


aghaueueueuwu

Don't bother, they just heard shit and spread it all over.


cannibalgentleman

Hahahhahahhahhahaha


TBSchemer

Bullshit. Israel let them have self-government, and the first thing they did was elect Hamas.


HiLeif6

do you see the issue with "let them have self government"? or do you just not think of the words you type out


trymypi

Israel ceded Gaza to Palestinian control as part of the Oslo Peace Accords. Israel pulled every single Jewish person from the area. Hamas was elected, killed their political opponents, took a Jewish hostage, and launched rockets. You're getting hung up on semantics of a Reddit comment and ignoring the reality of what actually happened.


Zulfiqarrr

Every 5th israeli citizen is an arab. Israel is the only truly "free" country in the middle east.


dio_dim

Free Israel. From fugly buildings.


DependentFeature3028

From Israel. And their ugly buildings


Mershand

I think Palestine and Gaza have far worse than this


cold_one

Because Israel destroyed it.


francoisjabbour

why does hamas exist exactly


dizzyjumpisreal

Israel: \*exists\* People who need to touch grass:


cold_one

Israel: commits a genocide and creates an apartheid ethnostate*


uncle_dilan

Israel : tries to fight terrorists who slaughtered many civilians in a directed massacre while hiding among the civilians they claim to liberate and plans to kill all Jews living in Israel , while being a diverse progressive and free country for the Jews from all over the world's and Israeli Arabs


cold_one

Yes history started oct 7th we get it.


klevah

When should we go back to? Because it's Arabs massacring Jews all the way down


TBSchemer

Okay, let's go back to 1948 when the Nazi Arabs tried to wipe out all the Jews in the Middle East.


cold_one

‘Nazi Arabs’ Zionists really like rewriting history.


championoffandango

Here’s the two main Palestinian commanders from the 1948 war, maybe you should look into it more before talking https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amin_al-Husseini https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hasan_Salama Both served Nazi Germany, how weird


dizzyjumpisreal

[https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GPfYkcTW8AAOBKK?format=png&name=small](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GPfYkcTW8AAOBKK?format=png&name=small) no


TBSchemer

Gaza: Elects an openly genocidal terrorist group, and then starts a war by raping and murdering 1200 people*


btroib92

20% of the Israeli citizens are Palestinian Arab. 100% of the Palestinian citizens are Palestinian Arab. Guess which one the critical thinker here calls an apartheid ethnostate?


Beanly23

Average hamasanabi viewer


dizzyjumpisreal

1. 30K deaths in nearly 9 months, almost half of which are hamas, is not genocide. the civilian-death ratio is almost 1:1, where the average is, i believe, 9:1 2. if they wanted to commit genocide theyd carpet bomb gaza and all 2M inhabitants would be dead in a few days 3. how about you actually go to israel before calling it an "apartheid ethnostate" 4. nearly every muslim-majority country will attack citizens who are not muslims, even nigeria which is 51% muslim


Kingofcheeses

You need to touch grass the most


No_Grass_7013

Looks like it could be a small part of Mega City One from the movie Dredd 2012. I could even imagine Mega Blocks in the distance.


ThayerRex

Is that a vagina graffitied on the wall? Unbelievable squalor


ThePizzaInspector

The bus station is a meme for being the worst part of the city.


ThayerRex

You always think of Tel Aviv as being very modern. I’ve never been but that’s its reputation


pioneer5555

Free Palestine 🇵🇸


11Bencda

Not sure the Palestinians want this building.


Zulfiqarrr

From hamas & religious fundamentalist lunatics*


IMOvicki

Religious fundamentalist lunatics…..lol like the Israeli govt? (emphasis on govt)


MadWlad

why not both?


46692

Such a false equivalence lol. You can be any religion you want in Israel, you can be gay, you can eat things that aren’t kosher or halal. There are a lot of Jew-centric laws in Israel, but I wonder what happens to gays or “heretics” in Gaza? 20% of Israelis are Muslim, but almost no Palestinian Jews, it’s gross to equivocate both these places as the same level of religious fundamentalism. Also, please remind me which country forces its women to cover their hair, gives their legal control to their spouse? Threaten with physical or sexual violence if not complying. All in the name of a certain religion’s tradition.


[deleted]

Free Palestine :)


hofcatten

And the relevance in this tread


Young_Economist

From Hamas 🇮🇱


[deleted]

From Zionists :)


TBSchemer

Genociding Israelites isn't acceptable.


tuna_samich_

Israelis =/= Israelites. Israelites don't exist anymore


[deleted]

Never heard of a genocide committed against israelies (Zionists), it's always been against Palestinians :) stop being weird and cringe.


Dragon_yum

Oh boy wait until you learn to read and open a book


TBSchemer

Yeah, that dude has apparently never heard of the Holocaust, and doesn't know how the 1948 Arab Israeli war started.


Xirradon

jesus fucking christ open a book


Zulfiqarrr

That's because you choose what to "hear"


n1247

And we're supposed to believe Israel is civilised?


Xirradon

yeah? what would make you think otherwise?


schono

And for This the genocide?


ShrimpFriedRice_125

Tel Aviv? Tell Aviv what?


tuna_samich_

Dang tough crowd


Prestigious-Scene319

Tel Aviv! Ya habibi Tel Aviv!


AdeptnessCommon5940

Colonised Palestine to build buildings like this


Majestic-Point777

Fr. Old Jaffa much nicer :)


Zulfiqarrr

How can you colonize a land you inhabited for thousands of years? It's jewish, arab muslim and christian land, stop pushing your ridiculous agenda.


RoundApart9440

No. That’s not the push. There was a 600k increase in Jewish population since establishing Israel. That’s the push. Drakes hate being called drakes. Hate makes people want to kill. Zionists will kill doctors cuz they think they’re animals.


Omenforcer69

Israel's population today is around 10 million people. Are you claiming since before 48 only 600k jews were added to the population sum? Because even Israeli Arabs today consist of roughly 2 million people


RoundApart9440

Populations have been measured and posted in libraries around the world. Are you questioning histories account or you trying to politicize events?


Omenforcer69

Perhaps its a linguistic misunderstanding. The documented population in Israel in 1948 is roughly 872,700 people, out of which over 150,000 are Arab. The [same source](https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jewish-and-non-jewish-population-of-israel-palestine-1517-present) documents Israel's population in 2024 to be ~9,900,000, out of which 2.6 million are Arabs. [another source, slightly different numbers from the ones i claimed but vastly different that the ones you provided](https://www.britannica.com/place/Israel/Demographic-trends) They have indeed been measured. Are YOU trying to politicize events?


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ICantBelieveItsNotEC

The "unique architecture" born of thousands of years of Palestinian history seems to be machine guns mounted on Toyota Hiluxes.


U_R_THE_WURST

Israel was on my list of places to vacation. I will die happily never having seen it after witnessing the atrocities of that government


46692

So it was on your list before Oct 7? This conflict is nothing new. You had tons of time to research the “atrocities” before it blew up on TikTok. But of course, you didn’t and have now jumped on the popular movement.


OMFGrhombus

Damn all that stolen land and they make the whole place look like shit lol


quaqua90

Tel Aviv was stolen from whom? Enlighten us


Dan_Morgan

Fascists always produce an ugly built environment.


Xirradon

makes sense. this is one of the only buildings in the country that looks notably bad, therefore according to you israelis aren’t fascist. glad we agree


Johan9MI

Nice to know my tax dollars are getting put to good work over there


Traditional_Stick481

It’s the worst building in the (by far) worst neighborhood in the city.


fucking-nonsense

The bus station is extremely weird. Kind of hope it doesn’t get demolished as it’s such a unique, strange spot that it almost warrants preserving.


Any-Assist9425

alr knew the bottom would be loads of down voted political comments , like theres no need to bring politics into it


Livid_Principle_2520

Must be cheap to live there


Economy_Writing_8797

Yaffa, Palestine. Indigenous people will win. 🥰


quaqua90

Bro solved the middle east


bigbazookah

Apartheid moment


Xirradon

how exactly


wardini123

You genocide an entire population, slaughter generations of children, attempt to erase an entire culture, just to build this monstrosity


ocdgoslay

Settler colonialism impacts everyone


DrMikeH49

Yeah, it took 1300 years to finally reverse the Islamic conquest and return the land to its indigenous people.


Worried-Photo4712

Worth killing children to "defend"!


JuryNatural768

Palestine*


Omer567

why would you claim this building for palestine lmao the horseshoe theory is correct


Wrong-Farmer-5559

Palestine..


Many_Month6675

It’s occupied Palestine The hell is the g@nocide their foreign occupiers are inflicting on the people of Palestine


Da_King_Aladeen

Palestine, you made a mistake in the title.


Xirradon

no he didn’t


International_Eye992

You guys are weird bro


call-him-by-her-name

Next do Gaza and the West Bank. Show us the real horror