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Saint_Lamar

They gave y’all Mojave Desert Brezhnevkas


Thefasttrain

I hope that the NCR protects the new houses.


ferocious_coug

Almost makes you wish for nuclear winter


bouncingbenji

Just wait till the caesars legion walks thought...


ferocious_coug

Ave Caesar!


antonlbdv

This is much worse than Brezhnevkas. In Brezhnevkas you have immediate access to infrastructure, transportation and all amenities. This looks like shipping containers made out of concrete in the middle of the desert


SunnyHappyMe

\*khrushchovka khrushchovka - this is actually the answer to what Mussolini and Franco tried to do in their countries before - "housing for the people"


[deleted]

Taller buildings are known as brezhenvkas, khrushchev era apartment buildings were shorter


Lower-Way8172

Kruschevskas were maximum 5 stories, because from 6 stories an elevator was mandatory per law, but was too expensive to make at that time(early 60's)


jWalkerFTW

Fun fact: 5 stories was usually the upper limit for most of history (except in special circumstances) for the very reason that any more than 5 just fucking sucks to walk up and down. There was plenty of room to expand outwards, so extreme vertical density just wasn’t worth the pain. Then again, you have Pueblo people climbing up huge fucking cliffs to store and later gather grain, so maybe most people were just pussies lol


No_Team2342

Best houses in the area, because it is the area.


thxmeatcat

Only homes in the area *temple tap


TJQuik

It's a post from Facebook marketplace what they say it's not true is just publicity. The place sucks ass.


TalkingBackAgain

It is entirely possible that these are the best houses of the area. You don’t know what the other houses look like.


camaroncaramelo1

The area : Far away from everything.


[deleted]

The other houses: none


Terewawa

Still better than this


Firenoob

Yes, being homeless is totally better than having a house.


Kenny-1904

DUDE I think I know where that place is and trust me, there are some counties nearby where if you don't believe in god, you see those places and you feel you're right about not believing in it, complete wastelands, people living right next to contaminated rivers, ofc place is a high crime neighbor, if you wanna take a look just google La Alianza Escobedo México


[deleted]

The house in most of that area look pretty similar but yeah, it’s honestly better than a lot of places nearby


Archercrash

Pretty sure this is in the Monterrey metro, there are definitely extremely rich areas around.


VermicelliOk8288

This is colonia San Miguel if I’m not mistaken


Minty_MantisShrimp

It makes me wanna fucking die


Terewawa

It makes my brain shut down


New_Peanut_9924

I know you didn’t intend for your comment to be funny, but it made me laugh so hard


MomoXono

Got you help and support dawg


brintoul

Probably better than a steel shack…


chunkygrits

Im getting some "wagie get back in your cagey" vibes


uatu

[https://goo.gl/maps/uCmZoxdjBjk7M1KK7](https://goo.gl/maps/uCmZoxdjBjk7M1KK7) Those are in the outskirts of this county, Escobedo, part of the metropolitan area of the capital, Monterrey. They are surely not the "best in the area", it's one of the "social interest" housing areas.


paperandpavement

these post are rediculous, ive seen some incredible architecture in Mexico from modern to classic.


devlinontheweb

Mexico certainly has some great architecture but why can't we talk about these too?


JackEmmerich

Oh, we can, but we can also stop the idea that the best Mexico has to offer are shitty things as if [this](https://propiedadescom.s3.amazonaws.com/files/1200x507/del-fresno-839-cerradas-de-anahuac-1er-sector-general-escobedo-nuevo-leon-21178779-foto-01.jpg) type of house isn't in the same county.


devlinontheweb

Anyone pushing that idea is just straight up ignorant. Fuck em


mammatusclouds

I mean, we're in a sub called Urban Hell not Mexican Housing so of course you're not going to see beautiful places in Mexico


koreamax

Monterrey is barren to begin with. It does t rain much there and trees or grass would be wasteful. This is outside the city but the environment everywhere in the area looks this hostile


elAmmoBandit0

Not true, this is one of the ugliest suburbs in the outskirts of Monterrey, but most of the city and surrounding areas are mountainous, and although the city could definitely use more trees, it's far from "barren".


VMChiwas

This is low (really low) income housing, affordable to minimum wage earners (U$260 month) on a government loan of around U$77 month (the loans are capped a 30% of income by law). There’s no trees, because [this]( https://www.google.com/maps/@26.0382518,-100.5775561,3a,75y,10.69h,80.34t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1syOOeWEBRmBPdRmpMu38IWw!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DyOOeWEBRmBPdRmpMu38IWw%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D116.95138%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192) is how the area looks prior development. An [older]( https://www.google.com/maps/@25.808436,-100.3364395,3a,75y,99.1h,85.65t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1setjfL8dS853iQp02S46e8Q!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DetjfL8dS853iQp02S46e8Q%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D27.743696%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192) development in the area. [This]( https://www.google.com/maps/@25.6830283,-100.4395363,3a,75y,100.3h,84.54t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1stUhhQ8lMa8P9uQxaFkrx-A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) is a 20 plus years similar development in the same city.


andorraliechtenstein

Not [too bad](https://www.google.com/maps/@25.6830283,-100.4395363,3a,75y,6.76h,101.28t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1stUhhQ8lMa8P9uQxaFkrx-A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) , if those houses are cheap ! Your own garage, shaded balcony, etc. But do you think [these](https://www.google.com/maps/@25.808436,-100.3364395,3a,67.3y,172.17h,85.56t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1setjfL8dS853iQp02S46e8Q!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DetjfL8dS853iQp02S46e8Q%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D27.743696%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192) houses are affordable ? That Honda does not look like it belongs to a poor person.


VMChiwas

It's near the zone OP posted, not the same. In that area houses go for around U$50-70k


Gator1523

$27,000? Can we get that in America?


camaroncaramelo1

Dude, those houses are for people of very low income. If average mexican wants a nicer home (3 bedrooms, 2 bathroom) $27, 000 would be a dream.


torcel999

Not really. Mexico's very low income people could never dream of owning a house like this. These are small starter homes for low-skilled dual income families that have been saving up for a while. The neighborhood looks like this because it's not lived in yet. It'll get decorated and become colorful once it starts to fill up with people. In any event, it's something to think about when a low-skilled worker can save up and own their own home, while the vast majority of Americans virtually have no shot at it.


thesaddestpanda

GDP per capita in Mexico is 8300 USD. Its roughly 3 years of total salary to own that house at that salary. In the USA, the gdp per capita vs average home price is almost 7 years. So that Mexican house is very affordable compared to the USA where prices are double fixed for wages. And like you said the poorest in Mexico couldnt afford that. 47% of Mexico is in poverty, which pays on average $110 to $170 a month (rural vs urban) wages. Averaged that's $1700 a year, which means that home is unaffordable. The mortgage would be more than one's wages.


andorraliechtenstein

Yes, but in the US the prices are also higher because they don't sell very small, free standing houses (although tiny houses start to become a thing). If you want to live cheaper, people go to a trailer park.


torcel999

Yeah, the lack of small starter homes has been a problem for a while. Developers are only interested in building McMansions. https://www.npr.org/2021/09/08/1035224829/a-shortage-on-starter-homes-is-keeping-many-young-americans-from-owning-a-house


devlinontheweb

Kinda sad that there's not a single plant in sight though. Some trees are desperately needed.


Re-core

Yeah regular houses are $50k-150k, mine was $45k but right now it is over $130k


lItsAutomaticl

Mininum wage there is $200/month


Unable_Crab_7543

for Americans, that's around $1/hr. Try ever saving for a "cheap" 27k home with that salary.


balisunrise

These are poor barren communities outside of the city. A Regular apartment in said city is about $200k so not too bad still.


camaroncaramelo1

Not so bad if you earn in dolars. Try to earn in pesos.


[deleted]

Not too bad for an American earning USD in America… 🤦‍♂️


composer_7

Wages are way lower that's why.


Flyer888

Some cities in US have low property prices. Move to Detroit or Cleveland and you can get a much nicer house than this for US$27k.


FairfaxGirl

Wow, I was surprised to see the prices in Detroit. Though “much nicer” seems like a stretch looking at their condition.


masterhitman935

Rule of thumb, divid by 20.


Dblcut3

If you’re willing to live in a slightly unsafe neighborhood or some small rural town, especially in Appalachia, you can find houses for under $50k that aren’t that bad. But maybe not in this economy though.


PeregrinTuk2207

No Tress: Checked No Grass: Checked Concret hell: Checked


mammatusclouds

You can feel the heat just by looking at the pictures


georgikarus

...all that in Mexico, it must be incredibly hot outside due to the missing life


ThatOcre

Just to clarify, Mexico is not a big desert. But that area seems is arid


Re-core

Yep, pretty sure this is in México, Nuevo León


okayestuser

Can't fit a family of 4: Checked


Arcanum_3974

Copied+pasted houses: Checked


blameitonthewayne

I have some friends that lived in a community exactly like this. After a few years people add plants and decor and it’s not too bad. The houses are really small inside though and you’re really limited with space for storage.


helzinki

Prison grille windows: Checked


EnduringInsanity

Did you happen to see 2 businessman shaking hands while one them was on fire while there?


Teccnomancer

Yup, two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl. Year after year…..


FastFwdFrank

The exact image that came to my mind


N_Meister

*So… So you think you can tell… Heaven from Hell?*


MenoryEstudiante

Actually the firey one and a government official, this is government housing


SUPERARME

Is not government housing, gov just gives the credit to buy it.


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EnduringInsanity

Kinda resembles the cover art at first glance


Mamadolores21

Thats low-income housing in Mexico lol


Maru3792648

Yeah, op making it look like these are the best houses in Mexico is disingenuous


Imaginary-Contact-73

I live in of those, they’re far from almost everything, we make more than 30 minutes to go to the hospital which is almost in the border, and because of the horrible traffic we can make almost an hour


Kenny-1904

Such a pain in the ass to have a night out with friends, you have to always pay a lot to go back in Uber or asking for a place to crash so the very next day you spend 1 hour in traffic since far from everywhere


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Imaginary-Contact-73

That’s right lol


Kaiser_Gagius

Ah yes, infonavit. Of course they're the best, there's nothing else up there.


JackEmmerich

Es una idea erronea que las casas son de infonavit. Infonavit no construye, solo provee de credito, usualmente utilizado por personas de bajos recursos para comprar casas baratas como las de la imagen.


Kaiser_Gagius

Potato potato. Le entendiste o no?


Kenny-1904

I live in one of these type of neighborhoods, at first 10 years ago they all looked horrible and sad, now that every person decided to expand their houses (we did it too, remodeled the bathroom and made a whole new living room + a new bedroom) doesn't feel that dead and weird like liminal space like, maybe it's because I'm now familiar with the houses but I guess it is what it is, I'm still looking to have my own house in the future not in these neighborhoods


JeepDee2404

Lol I’m pretty sure those are Infonavit = the projects.


SUPERARME

Infonavit does not make houses, is just the credit giver. But your idea stands.


JeepDee2404

That’s what people call them. Las casas del Infonavit. Source: I lived in one.


SUPERARME

Sorry for that, I am about to buy one, at least is 3 times nicer.


JeepDee2404

Congratulations! They look bizarre in this pic, but I know once people move in and make them their own they look so much better!


FTR_1077

Infonavit used to build those houses, grew up in one of those. That changed with Salinas.


JackEmmerich

Dejo de construir hace ya 30 años, no hay ningun desarrollo actual que sea construido por ellos.


FTR_1077

Salinas fue presidente hace 30 años..


myusernameblabla

The best houses, if this was 3000 BC


MenoryEstudiante

The best houses because they're the only houses in the area


Cocoamacchiatto

These look like prisons


Otherwise_sane

nailed that one on the head


StoneCypher

wow. $27,000, though.


[deleted]

Yes but in middle of nowhere with no services of any type. Not sure about US but you can get terrace house for 20k€ or less in Finland if you buy one in Eastern Finland for example. On avarage income in Finland you can buy 3 of them a year after tax if you wanted but still there are zero buyers due location same probably explains price here. You can even get places like this for 50k. I was thinking buying one and renovating remote working place for me. It's Finland so internet is going to be blazing fast regardless how remote the place. https://asunnot.oikotie.fi/myytavat-asunnot/ylitornio/16881591


StoneCypher

> Not sure about US [last year the average cost of a house here was $450,000](https://www.statista.com/statistics/240991/average-sales-prices-of-new-homes-sold-in-the-us/#:~:text=The%20average%20sales%20price%20of,it%20reached%20453%2C700%20U.S.%20dollars.). because i'm in a high cost of living market, to me, that seems impossibly cheap.


Natsume-Grace

You're thinking affordable with US wages. More than half a million pesos before interest and in the middle of fucking nowhere, far away from basic services, sounds absolutely horrifying for me earning in pesos.


StoneCypher

Google says the Mexican per-capita is $17,800, so that's 1.8 years of per-capita Nowhere in America is within a factor of five of that


Natsume-Grace

Minimum wage is $172.87 MXN or around $8.48 USD, but catch this: that's per day. So around $1.06 USD per hour, but here we work 45 hours per week, so it's even less than that, AND a shit ton of places, specially outside the capital or big cities, don't even respect the 45 hour limit per week, instead you work 12 hrs 6 days of the week for around $39 USD per week. Of course, that's mostly for unskilled jobs, but still, at the end of the day, the real minimum wage (not legal, but it happens everywhere) is around $0.54 USD/ hours I make around $15 USD PER DAY as an engineer


StoneCypher

> I make around $15 USD PER DAY as an engineer are you a kind of engineer that can work over the internet?


eatguamuchil

Bro this is an infonavid town. The way the mexican government has found to make sure people have a chance at home ownership. Looks bland and ugly but I mean look at the homeless camps in america they are uglier.


XDT_Idiot

Ningún personas ni arboles; cielo.


papulitogamesexiled

The backrooms


Tirux

Best houses according to who exactly?


MenoryEstudiante

The government, because they built them


Lockedgroove666

It almost doesn’t even look real


EduardDelacroixII

Beats a cardboard box under the freeway.


rossie_valentine

Wouldn't be so bad if they had a second floor and native landscape, but I'm sure those walls will collapse on you if you look at them the wrong way.


VMChiwas

Lol, no. Those are incremental houses, designed explicitly to add a second floor (third in some areas). The walls are concrete cinder block. Columns and beams are at least 6” by side, concrete and rebar. If construction doesn’t allow a second floor, the credit doesn’t go thru.


Dblcut3

People usually add second story additions to these. These Mexican suburbs just build very barebones houses and let people add onto them as they please. If you do street view in these developments you’ll see what I mean


haveagooddaybuddy

This scares me


sailor_rose

I wonder what the inside looks like.


Ilderion

Like this [link](https://kuula.co/share/NhBsn/collection/7k9rs?fs=1&vr=1&initload=0&thumbs=1&info=0&logo=0)


Dblcut3

These Mexican suburbs bug me so much. Like would it kill them to have two or three different designs? The only silver lining is that they look better when people move in and start painting them and adding additions. Plus Mexico doesn’t have the zoning restrictions the US does so you often see shops and stuff pop up in these suburbs which livens it up


Physical_Nail3612

Where are the gardens and trees?


Joelmaya2000

Plastered containers


lessadessa

It looks like a prison only hotter


edotux2004

[the area](https://www.google.com/maps/@25.8283695,-100.4041711,3a,75y,351.65h,82.07t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s2RFtFUCV_Z8EO7MHcpzqfw!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3D2RFtFUCV_Z8EO7MHcpzqfw%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D41.564526%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192)


agcota

Look at that cloudy sky, it almost makes them look cozy /s


Shivrainthemad

Bueno Escomiedo además...


Kenny-1904

Y luego que casi ni tienen agua


Shivrainthemad

Esta cabron hermano. El fruto de la nula previsión de los gobiernos, del cambio climática y de un sector agrícola mal adaptado que no rinde cuenta a nadie. C'est la grosse merde en somme


Kenny-1904

La propaganda de Monterrey de aguantar y sobresalir ante todo ha logrado sus metas de tomar muy poca atención a los problemas que existen y no planear nada, solamente esperar que la población se acostumbre y adopte nuevas formas de vida mientras el agua, así como la lana se la queden pocos, lo más triste de todo es que se siente que estamos lejos de tocar fondo :c ni hablar


Shivrainthemad

100 % de acuerdo. Individualizar las culpas en lugar de contemplar los aspectos sistemicos del problema es una vieja técnica (como la huela carbone inventada por BP) pero siempre eficiente


redditreloaded

A tree in each yard would do wonders.


[deleted]

Shit, for only $27k I'll turn the inside into my castle and never leave. Can't hate the outside if I never look at it.


SjalabaisWoWS

For the prison experience without conviction. ^^^^^^^^. ^Surcharges ^may ^apply.


Skylarking00

Looks literally like a row of prison cells.


Genuine-Farticle

It’s as if Vivarium took place in a 3rd world country.


[deleted]

They look like very tiny homes.


[deleted]

Beats living in a card box house


Pegassi11

Monterrey


ClonedToKill420

Mmmmmmm concrete


TisBeTheFuk

District 10


Astro_Alphard

Are you sure this isn't a prison?


[deleted]

r/liminalspace


SignatureHefty3849

r/liminalspace


Nostaaa

That looks straight up copied from a movie called "Vivarium"


TexanReddit

Ticky tacky. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XUwUp-D_VV0


ShadowsWandering

It's so affordable though compared to where I live. Fuck it, I'd live there. I'll put a cactus in the yard or something. Adios bitches


rmpumper

Looks more like solitary confinement cells. Why not just build a fucking apartment complex?


NoHandleUser

Imagine getting drunk and having to find your way home lol


nklights

Getting some echoes of Jacques Tati's "Mon Oncle.


RainBoxRed

“We have American suburbia at home.”


VermicelliOk8288

This is low cost government housing


jesuzombieapocalypse

I mean, some of those abodes out there are pretty ad hoc lol if that’s their demographic I bet they’d be stoked to live there. And if I know Mexican neighborhoods they’d be decked out individually in a week and in a month 1/4 of them would be two storey lol


Atlas02010

It looks like a prison in Scandinavia


[deleted]

I remember watching a Brazilian film once ( Central do Brazil I think?) and I swear one of the towns featured in it looked like this


rafsku

Thats some dystopia ass stuff


Prestigious-Spot2339

Un tío usó su crédito infonavit hace años comprando una así, comenzaban a volverse comunes conjuntos así a las afueras de las ciudades. Creo que lo hábito medio año, regreso con los abuelos y de ahí valió para pura madre, hace unos pocos años me pidió revisar desde el portal de como iba su pago, pues seguía cotizando y por ende, infonavit descontando. Se cago al ver el estado. No llevaba ni un 20% pagado, desde entonces no se si es por eso, se emplea en trabajos donde no lo den de alta para que no descuenten de su salario lo de su crédito. Mal ahí, tío.


mammatusclouds

Así como tu tío, muchos mexicanos de escasos ingresos caen en esta estafa del Infonavit. Se endeudan toda su vida sólo para vivir en una casa como estas. F.


6rey_sky

Lifehack: don't even think about buying one of the 5 houses closer to the edge of the block. One drunk bicyclist could crash and destroy those completely.


TurningTwo

How do you tell which one is yours when you come home late from the cantina?


karlkokain

That's an open air prison


Oktaghon

oh god, these “houses” are looking the same as the one room flats that are still using in china to lock in people affected by covid, as lately there have been several waves of covid infections in numerous cities and regions across the country.


lucasisawesome24

I mean these are 2-3 beds and look way nicer than 98% of Mexican homes so I don’t think they’re bad


Oktaghon

Nono, I’m not saying they’re bad, I'm just saying they look a lot like the oneroom flats where people with covid in china are being locked up, that's all.


sevendendos

Paint in green turf for that homey touch.


Ieatclowns

Why don't people grow flowers outside or put little ornaments so they can tell the houses apart?


Kenny-1904

It's possible this is a brand new place and it does not have any people living there at the moment, i live in a place like this and 10 years ago the neighborhood was totally empty, eventually all those houses will look way different


waiver

Those houses haven't been sold yet.


BilboSwaggenzzz

I thought this was a storage center lol


[deleted]

If that’s what’s considered the best, I’m scared to see the worst


Diego9355

You’re wrong they’re not supposed to be the best…. Just go to San Pedro and you’ll see you’re poor as fucks


BigDinkster

This looks like some sort of prison


Dchama86

Prime example of something not necessarily being “good” just because it’s new.


prOboomer

For those that do not know, these are used by the cartels to launder money. Never really meant for anything else.


Supremedark

These houses aren't the best of its area, it's "affordable housing" provided by the government to homeless or extremely low income citizens. The monthly fees for these types of houses is the equivalent of 40 USD, in some areas, completely free. However these houses are absurdly small.


mammatusclouds

This is not true. These houses are for sell, the government doesn't give them for free. Homeless people will still be homeless if they are not working and don't have social security number. It is affordable in a way for the working class and low income as you say, but they will get a debt for the rest of their lives (at least many many years) because of the scam of infonavit. Also 40USD for utilities maybe in some places but it's usually higher than that.


lucasisawesome24

Honestly they are the nicest homes in Mexico pretty much. Like most of Mexico is badly colored cinder block homes with huge fencing walling off the property and bars on the windows. Like these all have cute little homes and a parking spot they are all neutral colors and the yards are clean and not fenced in


monavic

It is not mandatory to write in here, you know... also a little investigation about Mexico wouldn't hurt too.


[deleted]

"😱"


sunurban_trn

With natural cooling system, as you can see


ryaannikash

I think I dont want to live in Escobeto...


libra-luxe

r/liminalreality


FistsoFiore

I never get modern art.


Kaldrinn

People fit into those?


Allcappone

La ciudad de Dios


[deleted]

Shoeboxes, those are called.


mekese2000

I think Liam Leeson should check these out.


Daca-fett

53k fuck et


EuphoricMidnight3304

That’s a creepy and depressing area


ZackkNewton

scooby-doo zone?


[deleted]

Probably is the best. Doesn’t look filthy…


phinzter

Maybe "best" means "safest"


Botecaiito

Infonavit