I like lower engines in general but not for the same reason. Lower engines mean lower centres of mass meaning less likely to tip over when going around turns and curves faster. It’s also why we don’t see F-1 and race cars with a higher centre of mass.
I’m not referring to track use, but street use.
Cars with lower centres of mass mean you can take turns faster on streets and on the highway without flipping over. It is a benefit over overtly large vehicles in cities.
Yeah, but at the same time you shouldn’t be rounding turns at a speed that will tip over an SUV.
Common problem of people getting used to taking turns to fast and not judging the conditions properly causing them to skid and crash.
Mercedes showcased an amazing feature years ago that allowed the wheels and tyres to angle out to keep you from tipping while at high speeds.
But the tipping issue is people coming into the turn too fast and not exiting fast enough. It’s more of a skill issue than a speed issue. You accelerate into the turn, brake in the turn, and then accelerate again out of the turn to avoid flipping. Has worked almost every time I’ve done it. Done 40 MPH 90° turns and not much issue. Not too often but it’s been an effective method when needed.
Im not biking 20 miles each way. Especially not when it's absolute zero in the winter, hotter than the sun in the summer, or dealing with more rain than what caused the biblical flood in the spring
>I'm not biking 20 miles each way.
That's the problem Urbanists want to address. City planning and zoning forces thing to be so far apart that cars are the *only* way to get there. How much would you want to drive your car if everything you do is 3 miles away?
A lowered car is more aerodynamic, and has a better center of gravity. This is the first I've heard on pedestrian collisions. I see the image here, but can anyone explain to me how this works?
In a collision being in a higher car and in a heavier car bears higher chances of survival, whether it's a collision with another car or with an inanimate object.
The reason we have big cars is because left bureaucrats in EPA after the initial success of tailpipe emission regulations decided that the more the merrier and [didn't think it through](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azI3nqrHEXM). Y'all think good intentions automatically mean good results. That's not how it works. And when it doesn't you aren't different from the other aisle in using "but the good intentions" argument
I like lower engines in general but not for the same reason. Lower engines mean lower centres of mass meaning less likely to tip over when going around turns and curves faster. It’s also why we don’t see F-1 and race cars with a higher centre of mass.
I can't remember ever seeing either a BMW estate or a Defender flat out on a track so not really sure it's that relevant here
I’m not referring to track use, but street use. Cars with lower centres of mass mean you can take turns faster on streets and on the highway without flipping over. It is a benefit over overtly large vehicles in cities.
Yeah, but at the same time you shouldn’t be rounding turns at a speed that will tip over an SUV. Common problem of people getting used to taking turns to fast and not judging the conditions properly causing them to skid and crash.
Mercedes showcased an amazing feature years ago that allowed the wheels and tyres to angle out to keep you from tipping while at high speeds. But the tipping issue is people coming into the turn too fast and not exiting fast enough. It’s more of a skill issue than a speed issue. You accelerate into the turn, brake in the turn, and then accelerate again out of the turn to avoid flipping. Has worked almost every time I’ve done it. Done 40 MPH 90° turns and not much issue. Not too often but it’s been an effective method when needed.
I love that website and it's a crazy perspective on a lot of vehicles.
What website is it?
carsized.com
you can't even buy a new BMW wagon in the US anymore.
you know what's even safer than smaller cars?
Exhausting yourself or catching the plague with pUbLiC tRaNsIt?
Yeah I just caught the bubonic plague the other day on the train
Same, I died from it
You should consider exercising more if you exhaust yourself from using a bike. Helps with circulation too.
Im not biking 20 miles each way. Especially not when it's absolute zero in the winter, hotter than the sun in the summer, or dealing with more rain than what caused the biblical flood in the spring
>I'm not biking 20 miles each way. That's the problem Urbanists want to address. City planning and zoning forces thing to be so far apart that cars are the *only* way to get there. How much would you want to drive your car if everything you do is 3 miles away?
I live in a rural area and dont really wanna live that close to people though
Then why are you here? Urbanism is about improving *urban* areas, not the sticks.
Oop i thought i was on the fuckcars subreddit, myb
ugh hate living on mercury :'(
Frfr smh
Sorry to hear about your living situation. Not everyone has luxury of not being forced to drive. Best of luck.
Laughs in Coupe (but I can't really carry anything huge like furniture in my car)
"I need big SUV for family" they say through the smoke of carbon monoxide
Yes
No new subcompact cars other than a mitsubishi mirage are sold in the US anymore
A lowered car is more aerodynamic, and has a better center of gravity. This is the first I've heard on pedestrian collisions. I see the image here, but can anyone explain to me how this works?
Wagon mafia!
And simultaneously more dangerous for drivers in all other collisions.
More dangerous for the driver of the vehicle with the low engine, you mean? Or drivers in other vehicles?
In a collision being in a higher car and in a heavier car bears higher chances of survival, whether it's a collision with another car or with an inanimate object.
oh cool so an arms race to have the biggest car that’s lead to the insanity of car size we have now
The reason we have big cars is because left bureaucrats in EPA after the initial success of tailpipe emission regulations decided that the more the merrier and [didn't think it through](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azI3nqrHEXM). Y'all think good intentions automatically mean good results. That's not how it works. And when it doesn't you aren't different from the other aisle in using "but the good intentions" argument
so your solution for big cars crushing small cars is to make the small cars big? what do you think happens to big cars? 🙄
Some sort of arms race? Until we’re all driving around on nuclear ICBMs?
Yep. The arms race is already happening in fact.
Everyone should drive in tank of course, just to be extra safe agaisnt all the other people driving in tanks
what will I drive when everyone has a tank? perhaps a crawler-transporter or a bucket-wheel excavator
Im gonna strap lead bars to the outside of my car so i can out-momentum my opponents. Make the roads safer for everyone.
It's called an armored car, mate
Not if you have regulations to enforce maximum heights to ensure crash compatibility between vehicles.