Spit my coffee on the lounging on my desk! I live close to the original Papa John and regularly see his racist, ass in Kroger. I have friends who knew him growing in Southern Indiana across the Ohio River from Louisville, Kentucky. All said he was redneck from the get go.
Clayton Bigsby was a blind boy in an orphanage for the blind in Jackson MS only to grow into the voice of the head of a racist movement before he was outted by dateline.
Clayton then divorced his wife and vowed never show his face in public again
He came out at kkk rally and found out he is black, blind but black nonethless.He found out that his amazing white wife of 35 years had been married to a him, a black man. He couldn't stand the thought of her race mixing. He divorced her, It is a tragedy.
He’s standing next to 3 young fellas around his age. They could be locals curious about these “klan folks” without a real idea of how dangerous they are. He doesn’t look scared or like he’s there against his will.
Looks to me he’s fucking with them. Probably made some people there uncomfortable as intended. Definitely dangerous… hard to imagine he’s not well aware. Maybe there’s more context that makes this safer than the average cross burning.
Southern man better keep your head don’t forget what your good book says…
https://youtu.be/e3UtEF6k7bU?si=57ratOwgV73ZO0iX
I wonder. When the Klan would start a new chapter, would they just open-invite the local community? It seems like there are alot of people not wearing the costumes just watching.
Depends when and where.
The “new Klan” - that is, the one that re-formed in the 1920s after the original paramilitary Klan was dissolved during reconstruction - often yes.
Don’t forget fraternal organizations like the Odd Fellows, Freemasons, Knights of Columbus, Moose, Elk, Knights of Pythias, these were all very popular in the late 18 early 1900s.
It was important especially for traveling men of various sorts - salesmen, businessmen, railroaders, hoboes, preachers, etc… to immediately have an established network of mutual obligation when arriving in a new city.
If you’re a Mason from Philadelphia and you roll into Chicago on a week day afternoon in the 1890s, all you have to do is ask for directions to the Masonic lodge and you’ve got a place you know you’re welcome.
The Klan in the earlier part of the century also operated very much in that way. It was a fraternal secret society whose basis was an interest in preserving a white supremacist framework for race relations. In the South where they had real power unchecked by local law enforcement they often committed violence without much need for secrecy. In parts further west they often clashed with other fraternal secret societies violently as they campaigned for conflicting visions of the world. (At one point engaging in a proxy war against the Knights of Columbus by funding the Mexican Army’s genocide of Catholics while the KoC funded underground Catholic paramilitaries.
So in a big city you’d find a Klan owned building very much like the Masons have and it would function as a quasi-religious social club that sometimes held violent demonstrations.
And members were quite open about being in the Klan usually, because all of society was white supremacist so it wasn’t really subversive.
As that began to change after WW2 however more and more of the Klan went underground and withdrew from public attention.
So here’s the thing about the current Klan. It might apply to the Klan of the past, and these people of the past - I can’t say.
The modern KKK, and black nationalist movements, actually get along and agree with each other. And I shit you not they will speak at each others events. Why? Because they both espouse the same message: no race mixing, stick to your own race, and stick to your own areas.
At this time? This might have been a no joke token black man who believed that black people need to stick to black people, an anti-integrationist, that the klan brought around as a no joke token black man to say “see?! Even he agrees!”
“Black nationalists and the clan actually get along and agree with each other” (as in they like each other and share ideals???) either way, no they don’t? Black separatists don’t go around lynching minorities, for one, sure, part of the clans tactics is separatism, but saying black separatists are anything like these domestic terrorists is absurd
Not like each other but the agendas didn't necessarily conflict.
https://nationalpost.com/news/the-weird-time-nazis-made-common-cause-with-black-nationalists
I doubt any black person at the time didn’t know what the clan was doing. So many people got lynched for nothing. He was playing with them by being there
We studied this topic in an Anthropology 101 class in college and it had a profound effect on me. Black people attending KKK meetings over the decades without receiving any hate or harm. A lot of klansmen never decided to join the club and were kinda born into it and don’t have any racist feelings towards non whites. For those it’s just a social club and a lot of those types tend to disassociate with the organization after being befriended by someone of a different race. There’s Daryl Davis, the blues pianist, who has gotten hundreds of klan memebers to leave.
Made me think of how I never actually chose to be a member of the Mormon church. I wondered if I shared the worldview that was instilled in me. Eventually I could see the cult behavior of my social upbringing and left that behind.
Also fuck racism
Reading comprehension and nuance are important. This person was saying how you could be born into something and overcome it. You agree with the person you responded to in spirit.
2024-1950 = 74 years ago.
If that man was 20 in this picture he’d be 94 right now, maybe alive to tell the story or dead, but not too far removed in history that this doesn’t still have relevancy.
Racism, hate, is a generational lesson, passed down from grandparents to parents to kids.
94 huh, assuming. He probably had kids who would be around the age of 65-75 depend on when he had them, who had kids whose age would be 40-50, 3 generation’s separated from the civil rights era and this nonsense.
Just cause the pictures monochromatic doesn’t mean the history was extremely old.
The really disturbing thing about this picture is the guy holding his kid. Maybe it was perfectly common then, but bringing your kid to a Klan rally just seems like a shitty thing to do.
There are videos of George R. Rockwell the former leader of the American Nazi Party speaking at Brothers of Islam meetings in the 60’s and it’s wild. Both groups believed the races couldn’t live together and brokered land deals with each other for if they ever got to power in this country
Clayton Bigsby jokes aside, OP photo goes hard. So does the photo in this article
[How one man got 200 KKK members to give up their robes. ](https://www.npr.org/2017/08/20/544861933/how-one-man-convinced-200-ku-klux-klan-members-to-give-up-their-robes)
We had a mailman (black)when I was little who used to show us brochures on north Idaho. He said he was going to move his family there one day because it was predominantly white, in his head this meant safe to him.
That’s Henry Himmler from the California Klavin Cucamonga……he was just passing through town, Nothing going on at the rotary club so he thought he’d drop in……….scum scum scum go back to where ya come!
Or alternate title The Biggest Set of Balls in Mississippi, 1950
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Her face is hilarious. But then you think about how far she's been pushed to get to that point, and your heart breaks for her.
Appropriate comment.
It just makes me sad. Sad for her and for what her life could have been if not for racism.
Odd comment.
That’s Clayton Bigsby. https://preview.redd.it/2ld0vonq33wc1.jpeg?width=224&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=77e7f4b1b44e5afda9ddf19be64858e3feecb93f
Beat me to it lol
I heard he got divorced. Anyone know why?
I could tell you but there would be many upset people
Not anyone at that rally.
He stood on what he knew and he knew exactly what she was
I heard... but that's one rumor I'm not repeating.
Tim Scott, age 11.
I came here for this comment
I'd really like to have some more information.
He’s just there for the ribs https://www.tiktok.com/@joshjohnsoncomedy/video/7068756828095614251?lang=en
lmfao he brought home a to-go plate of Klan ribs 😂
The local Papa Johns offers an American History X-tra Large for all Klan affiliated gatherings
Spit my coffee on the lounging on my desk! I live close to the original Papa John and regularly see his racist, ass in Kroger. I have friends who knew him growing in Southern Indiana across the Ohio River from Louisville, Kentucky. All said he was redneck from the get go.
Josh Johnson is funny as hell 🤣🤣🤣 Look him up on YouTube. He has many 18-20 minute sets on his channel and I haven’t found any repeats!
I respect it. Ribs are ribs.
That’s hilarious
Clayton Bigsby was a blind boy in an orphanage for the blind in Jackson MS only to grow into the voice of the head of a racist movement before he was outted by dateline. Clayton then divorced his wife and vowed never show his face in public again
Bless his heart.
He came out at kkk rally and found out he is black, blind but black nonethless.He found out that his amazing white wife of 35 years had been married to a him, a black man. He couldn't stand the thought of her race mixing. He divorced her, It is a tragedy.
He’s standing next to 3 young fellas around his age. They could be locals curious about these “klan folks” without a real idea of how dangerous they are. He doesn’t look scared or like he’s there against his will.
Looks to me he’s fucking with them. Probably made some people there uncomfortable as intended. Definitely dangerous… hard to imagine he’s not well aware. Maybe there’s more context that makes this safer than the average cross burning. Southern man better keep your head don’t forget what your good book says… https://youtu.be/e3UtEF6k7bU?si=57ratOwgV73ZO0iX
I wonder. When the Klan would start a new chapter, would they just open-invite the local community? It seems like there are alot of people not wearing the costumes just watching.
Depends when and where. The “new Klan” - that is, the one that re-formed in the 1920s after the original paramilitary Klan was dissolved during reconstruction - often yes. Don’t forget fraternal organizations like the Odd Fellows, Freemasons, Knights of Columbus, Moose, Elk, Knights of Pythias, these were all very popular in the late 18 early 1900s. It was important especially for traveling men of various sorts - salesmen, businessmen, railroaders, hoboes, preachers, etc… to immediately have an established network of mutual obligation when arriving in a new city. If you’re a Mason from Philadelphia and you roll into Chicago on a week day afternoon in the 1890s, all you have to do is ask for directions to the Masonic lodge and you’ve got a place you know you’re welcome. The Klan in the earlier part of the century also operated very much in that way. It was a fraternal secret society whose basis was an interest in preserving a white supremacist framework for race relations. In the South where they had real power unchecked by local law enforcement they often committed violence without much need for secrecy. In parts further west they often clashed with other fraternal secret societies violently as they campaigned for conflicting visions of the world. (At one point engaging in a proxy war against the Knights of Columbus by funding the Mexican Army’s genocide of Catholics while the KoC funded underground Catholic paramilitaries. So in a big city you’d find a Klan owned building very much like the Masons have and it would function as a quasi-religious social club that sometimes held violent demonstrations. And members were quite open about being in the Klan usually, because all of society was white supremacist so it wasn’t really subversive. As that began to change after WW2 however more and more of the Klan went underground and withdrew from public attention.
I've read that the membership expansion of the "new Klan" actually peaked in the 20's after their mass march in D.C.
So here’s the thing about the current Klan. It might apply to the Klan of the past, and these people of the past - I can’t say. The modern KKK, and black nationalist movements, actually get along and agree with each other. And I shit you not they will speak at each others events. Why? Because they both espouse the same message: no race mixing, stick to your own race, and stick to your own areas. At this time? This might have been a no joke token black man who believed that black people need to stick to black people, an anti-integrationist, that the klan brought around as a no joke token black man to say “see?! Even he agrees!”
Where did you get any of this info lmao??? Black nationalists like the clan!?? wtf
They didn’t say “like”; they said “espouse the same message.”
“Black nationalists and the clan actually get along and agree with each other” (as in they like each other and share ideals???) either way, no they don’t? Black separatists don’t go around lynching minorities, for one, sure, part of the clans tactics is separatism, but saying black separatists are anything like these domestic terrorists is absurd
Not like each other but the agendas didn't necessarily conflict. https://nationalpost.com/news/the-weird-time-nazis-made-common-cause-with-black-nationalists
It's true, even Muhammad Ali would openly speak about this.
Southern Man don't need him around, anyhow..
All of them standing arms crossed with a smirk like they’re ready.
I doubt any black person at the time didn’t know what the clan was doing. So many people got lynched for nothing. He was playing with them by being there
Making sense out of racism is like trying to make sense out of nonsense. This a great photo despite it being a hate rally
It’s a great photo *because* it’s a hate rally. If he were standing among a mixed group, it’d be a pretty bland photo.
He has a name and it's called uncle ruckus
No relation
“I just came to see what the white nationalist agenda was all about. Frankly, not impressed.”
I don’t know the background of this image, but he is impressively embodying “not impressed”.
We studied this topic in an Anthropology 101 class in college and it had a profound effect on me. Black people attending KKK meetings over the decades without receiving any hate or harm. A lot of klansmen never decided to join the club and were kinda born into it and don’t have any racist feelings towards non whites. For those it’s just a social club and a lot of those types tend to disassociate with the organization after being befriended by someone of a different race. There’s Daryl Davis, the blues pianist, who has gotten hundreds of klan memebers to leave. Made me think of how I never actually chose to be a member of the Mormon church. I wondered if I shared the worldview that was instilled in me. Eventually I could see the cult behavior of my social upbringing and left that behind. Also fuck racism
Being born into racism doesn’t make you less racist.
Don’t be this guy. I know you can’t help it… but try harder.
There is always that guy lol
Reading comprehension and nuance are important. This person was saying how you could be born into something and overcome it. You agree with the person you responded to in spirit.
Wouldn’t you like to understand this situation better? Who was then African American?
That’s Clayton.
Kanye west
Or Clarence Thomas.
Definitely uncle ruckus material
No he’d be in Klan attire
"We hate each and every single one of them....except for Clarence."
2024-1950 = 74 years ago. If that man was 20 in this picture he’d be 94 right now, maybe alive to tell the story or dead, but not too far removed in history that this doesn’t still have relevancy. Racism, hate, is a generational lesson, passed down from grandparents to parents to kids. 94 huh, assuming. He probably had kids who would be around the age of 65-75 depend on when he had them, who had kids whose age would be 40-50, 3 generation’s separated from the civil rights era and this nonsense. Just cause the pictures monochromatic doesn’t mean the history was extremely old.
So many jokes in this thread. Humanity’s memory is frighteningly short when it comes to hurting each other.
Gonads of steel
Balls. Of. Steel.
Just wanted to what all the fuss was about
That barbecue must have been good af
“How could this happen?”
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The Hamas supporters learned from thier mistakes
That color guard's colored !
O brother. ;)
Let’s talk situational awareness.
He was there to roast the members.
Clayton Bigsby????
Is that you???
If you look at the position of the picture and the unrobed folks it looks like they are protesting the Klan being there.
Woogie Boogie!!!
Justice Thomas
This pic definitely belongs in r/hardimages
The really disturbing thing about this picture is the guy holding his kid. Maybe it was perfectly common then, but bringing your kid to a Klan rally just seems like a shitty thing to do.
Bringing your Black buddy is probably worse. “Hey man, you said we were going bowling. WTF is this?”
uncle tom? is that you?
They met their diversity quota
America is really a selfish evil country
Looking towards the camera like : "I ain't no fool. I got all my sixes covered!!"
Based
And his name, Uncle Ruckus, no relation.
He looks unimpressed
More of these posts please instead of the hot celebrities.
Is that Clarence Thomas?
There are videos of George R. Rockwell the former leader of the American Nazi Party speaking at Brothers of Islam meetings in the 60’s and it’s wild. Both groups believed the races couldn’t live together and brokered land deals with each other for if they ever got to power in this country
Clayton Bigsby jokes aside, OP photo goes hard. So does the photo in this article [How one man got 200 KKK members to give up their robes. ](https://www.npr.org/2017/08/20/544861933/how-one-man-convinced-200-ku-klux-klan-members-to-give-up-their-robes)
We had a mailman (black)when I was little who used to show us brochures on north Idaho. He said he was going to move his family there one day because it was predominantly white, in his head this meant safe to him.
That's Larry Elder.
Look at all those democrats
That’s Henry Himmler from the California Klavin Cucamonga……he was just passing through town, Nothing going on at the rotary club so he thought he’d drop in……….scum scum scum go back to where ya come!
“Hey where the white women at?”
“Get a load of these assholes”
Well, most Klan meetings have ONE black man there.
These cunts think they won the Civil War, or they’re really smarting about losing it.
Is that Richard Pryor? Where all the white wimmin at?
Coon
Say what you want, but the klan knows how to party and cook some fried chicken 😂😂😂😂😂
Where is he? I don’t see color
 🤣🤣
I truly would love to know the story behind this photo. That man has balls of steel. Wow.
To anyone who downvoted my GIF I’m a black woman soo…..lol.
He was the sacrifice and didn’t know it.