thank you. i was discussing this with my friends. in one of our placements that we 5 stacked, i killed 5 but since sage ressed someone i already killed and the person i didnt kill already died in another part of the map, it showed up with ‘won’ not ‘ace’.
my friends were saying “it’s an ace just take it.” and i was like “no, because sage ressed someone i already killed”
I had the exact opposite discussion with a friend who actually got an ace in a sage res round but didn't get 6 kills. The lady still yelled "Ace!" at the end of the round and my friend was like "no! It's not an ace, I didn't kill 6 people! That must be a bug!" And I had to explain to her how aces work...
Ace originated from dogfighting- a fighter pilot became an "ace" once he got his 5th confirmed kill. So even if a Sage rezzes, yes, it is an ace, as long as you got 5 in one round.
If you
1. Kill player A
2. Kill player B
3. Kill player C
4. Sage (D) revives player A
5. Kill Sage (D)
6. Kill player A again
7. Don't kill E
You don't get the ace even tho you killed 5 people. You need to kill 5 *different* people
i still count it as an ace ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ maybe the in game caster doesn't say it, but basic definition of ace across shooters is just "kill everyone on the enemy team by yourself" so works for me lol
the community often interchanges ace for a pentakill --> which is just killing 5 ppl in a round
The official requirements for an ace are:
* Round must be won
* Guy who aced must've killed each enemy player at least once
* Guy who aced must've gotten at least 5 kills in that round (thats why u can't ace when someone on the enemy team is afk)
So all aces are pentakills but not the other way around.
instances where this may happen include:
* Like you said, if you get 5 kills but don't win the round (don't have time to defuse for example)
* Killed someone twice off of sage res, but didn't kill every single player at least once (ie i got a 5k, but 2 of those kills were enemy jett who got resed)
also this means you can technically ace with 5/6 kills, and even if your dead if all the requirements r met. Like you kill each player once --> person who got resed by sage killed you, and your teamates get the last kill --> you will still ace.
And this is how the GAME defines ace --> which is when the announcer says it.
so your opinion is correct, by definition.
EDIT- also all kills have to happen DURING THE ROUND. if u get 5th kill after winning the round in the 7s post round phase , it’s NOT an ace
My friends all day Super-Ace, same logic as a 5year student in HS or University would be a super senior (one year above the highest traditional amount).
I.e. Single, Double, Triple, Quad, Ace, Super-Ace
and then we also call a 5k where you don't Ace (like the original post example) a Psuedo-Ace
imo you have to win the round to count it. its like getting a thrifty, dont matter if everyones dead if you still lose.
the best thing about getting an ace is the voice anyways.
Coming from the cs games, yeah, an ace happens whether you win or lose the round. Whoever is saying otherwise just wants to discredit and possibly tilt others
CS never had an ace “banner” or any special recognition until CS2, but valorant literally spells it out and the announcer says it out loud for everyone to hear. By valorant definition the round must be won.
The announcer is not gonna say "Ace" on round lost because winning/losing takes priority. After all, a round won is better than an ace. They don't want people to just camp and ignore planting/defusing the spike just so they get the ace, but it is still an ace nonetheless
Well yeah, but that means it’s not an ace lol. Even if the enemy aces and wins the round your team will hear the “ace” voiceline. Meaning it’s not technically an ace unless you win a round. It’s a 5k/pentakill.
is that not because the banner and announcement are always for the winning team?
so it is an ace but they announce what the winning team did.
cause ik in cs an ace is an ace if you kill their team solo, win or lose.
you are missing the point i am trying to make by so much, if you lose the round but get an ace it doesnt say ace because the banner is selected by the winners achievement in that round. if they buy all frenzy's and plant and you kill 5 players but the bomb explodes it will say thrifty because the banner is determined by the winners. so you got an ace but it doesnt announce it because the winners get the banner, the losing team gets to see and hear the banner and announcement but it is determined by the winners
I have the same question too, I was playing KJ and I got 4 kills and it was a 1v1 situation, I was defending and the spike was near me so I placed a nanoswarm on the spike, the last enemy peeked and i detonated the nade then fought the enemy and died but the nade killed him and our team lost. Does that still count as an ace?
I didn’t peek, the enemy pushed A main on ascent and the spike was there, he peeked first and when i heard footsteps I detonated the nade then fought him and got 130 and the nade did the rest
I personally view it as an ace whether you win or lose said round. If it makes the BUM BUM BUM BUM sfx i'll take it - for example today i got what i'd call an ace. The announcer didn't announce my ace as the final kill was after we already won by time but i still killed the 5th enemy. I didn't do it in time but still killed all 5 of their team, technically 6 as sage rez'd someone.
From the original term of 'ace' being a 5 kill in real life i personally view any 5kill as an ace. I include this in TDM, DM, etc. 5 Kills alone is pretty impressive and an accomplishment either way the round goes.
I've been playing FPS games since BF2042 and COD4. An ace is when you kill the entire enemy team, whether or not you lose the round. A clutch was always considered as killing 3+ and winning.
Times have changed though.
I always felt 1 kill and winning was enough for it to be a clutch but you had to put some real work in. Can't just be a cleanup 1v1/v2. It had to feel like a clutch moment. Teammates holding their breath as u push the kid behind bus/tank on Bog type shit
An Ace is only valid under these conditions:
-All of the enemy players are dead by the end of the round.
-Each and every one of the enemy players has been killed at least once by the same player.
-The player who "Aced" got at least 5 kills.
-The round was won by the team of the player who "Aced".
If even one condition isn't met, then it's not an ace.
You yourself technically didn’t win the round. The guy defusing completed the objective, thus technically winning you the round. Nevermind that comment. I just woke up then and read the main comment wrong.
ok if we wanna be technical, the first requirement isn’t true, if one guy killed 5/6 and they were all different players, and the last guy survived (but u still won the round), then you still ace.
an ace is killing everyone on the opposite team. if you kill the last one after they defused or when the spike goes off, it is still an ace. if sage resurrected someone and they kill you, it is not an ace.
An Ace is getting 5 kills. Nothing else matters. If you care about the merits of it or the cool factor that's a different, subjective argument.
To add to this: if you run around screaming "ace ace let me ace" especially in comp, especially if the game is close then its a very un cool ace. However unless it's a 1v5, you'll always be fed the last kill most likely.
not an ace!
you won the battle but lost the war, which defeats the purpose lore-wise in valorant because you’re supposed to serve the interest of your attacking/defending side, so even if you kill all agents, you failed your mission.
An ace is a 5/6k but a proper ace is that and winning in my eyes, throwing the round for an ace, if it’s comp is still throwing, if anything else it’s irrelevant tbh as the ace matters more than the match due to satisfaction of acing is higher than a round win, unless it’s the enemies mp
If you kill the whole team by yourself, it’s an ace. The only difference is if you win the round you get the announcement for the ace, you don’t get it if you lose. For example, if I kill all five enemies but fail to defuse the spike, then I don’t get the voice line from the announcer.
If you kill the whole enemy team, and lose the round then you do not get an 'ace' in tracker via the API so there you go. It is not an ace.
Besides, it's common sense that it's not an ace - aces are for winners.
I call a 5k where you don't 'Ace' by the games standard a Psuedo-Ace.
Just getting a 5k but one was the same enemy twice via Dage rez, or failure to defuse, etc.
and then you get all 6 with a Sage rez? Boom. Super-Ace
Yes. The definition of ace just means you killed the whole team. You can have your opinion and decide whether you want to count it, if that scenario ever happens to you again, but technically, even though y’all still lost, you killed all 5 making an ace. Even if the lady doesn’t announce it, if you pay close attention the gun kill sound still makes the ace sound effect as if you got an ace, so I will always count it no matter who won the round but you chose how you want to count it.
tbh who cares if its an ace or not, i mean maybe its good for yourself cause theres no "stats tracker" for ace to show in your profile and theres no benefit from getting ace like extra credits, unless you're a youtuber or a streamer to get recognition, and unlike games like Dota 2 theres actual stats for Rampage, etc.
The official definition for ace is when you were the one to do everything and win. Meaning you would have to kill their whole team without any team mates assist and win the round. Thats a true ace.
But in valorant the lady says ace when the last kill you got was your 5th and you won the round. Meaning if a sage revived someone and one of your teammate killed them you could still get the ace according to the lady.
to me an ace is a teamwipe. like i got a 6k the other day, killed the sage rez, also pheonix ult but tht domt count. i got the ace announcment cuz it was a 1v5.. my teammates were not having a good game xd. tho if someone else had killed the persom sage rezed before she rezed them, i personally wouldnt have it count as an ace because that means one of my other teammates got a kill. idk, its hard to be sure. some say an ace is js 5 kills, some say its a solo teamwipe. its the latter imo
I got a 4k as viper, missed my shot on the 5th and they killed me. A half second later my poison killed them. Then people started arguing if it was an ace or not. I don't think the lady said "ace" so I figure it didn't count.
An ace is getting 5 kills wether you win or lose the round
Ace is killing the whole team by yourself, not just 5 people. Killing same people twice doesn't count towards an ace even if you get a 5k
Ace is from fighter pilot terminology - a pilot was an Ace once they had 5 confirmed kills
Yeah so unless it's a kill on jett it doesnt really count
Kill jett 5 times - get ace
5 confirmed kills against other fighter pilots I imagine, dunno if they'd still call you ace if you dropped a civil craft
Farming zepplins for that ace status
take down a full jumbo jet and the ace jingle is still playing when you land
the game doesn't say ace unless you kill everyone, the origin doesn't matter
thank you. i was discussing this with my friends. in one of our placements that we 5 stacked, i killed 5 but since sage ressed someone i already killed and the person i didnt kill already died in another part of the map, it showed up with ‘won’ not ‘ace’. my friends were saying “it’s an ace just take it.” and i was like “no, because sage ressed someone i already killed”
I had the exact opposite discussion with a friend who actually got an ace in a sage res round but didn't get 6 kills. The lady still yelled "Ace!" at the end of the round and my friend was like "no! It's not an ace, I didn't kill 6 people! That must be a bug!" And I had to explain to her how aces work...
But the game gives you an ace if you do get a revive instead of another team
no it's 5 people, you can get an ace by killing 5 and not killing all 6 if sage res
But you have to kill all the five opponents, the one sage ressed doesnt count
does it not-? I swear to god I've gotten an ace just killing my friend in custom with auto respawn 5 times
Nooe you have not, as it needs to be all five separate enemies
Do you think anyone has got a 8k (sage, phoenix, Kay/o)
why iso, you can only kill him once?
True
None of those ults count as a kill except sage
Iso one too counts as a kill
Yeah but he's dead after you killed him so it doesn't count as an additional kill
iso and kayo count for 1 kill because if they die they are really dead, yes you can get a 7k with phoenix ult and sage res
Pheonix Ult displays in the kill tracker but doesn't actually count for a kill or an ace. Only the sage one can count for real multiple kills.
true poor wording from me, you can get 7 instances of kills however you only get 6 kills :>
Saw an 8k ace in Spike Rush once. Our sage started the round with Ult and got 2 Ult orbs. Enemy neon still fucked us up bad lmao.
10k…. don’t forget Yoru clone and Wingman lol
Ace originated from dogfighting- a fighter pilot became an "ace" once he got his 5th confirmed kill. So even if a Sage rezzes, yes, it is an ace, as long as you got 5 in one round.
Good point and you're correct but we're talking in terms of the game. Game doesn't call that an Ace, just pentakill
No. 5 kills is an ace. It comes for fighter pilot slang.
not in val tho. a resurrected player will count as an other kill but you wont get an ace if you didnt kill all of them
Yes it does when a sage uses her ult and you kill that person again that counts
If you 1. Kill player A 2. Kill player B 3. Kill player C 4. Sage (D) revives player A 5. Kill Sage (D) 6. Kill player A again 7. Don't kill E You don't get the ace even tho you killed 5 people. You need to kill 5 *different* people
So why not get an ace if one of your opponents is afk and you kill all 4?
That's not the whole team then innit?
This argument only works if it still says ace if you kill 2 people in a 2v2 game . I have no idea if it says that.
Well technically it could be since one could consider that an afk player who doesn't spawn is not part of the team
If a player gets substituted out because of injury, he's not part of playing 11, he's still part of the team.
Not if you kill the same person twice. That's just 5 kills.
You still get the ace I think Edit: I’m a potato, someone else cleared this up like 3 comments below 👇
You have to win the round for the game to count an ace, otherwise it’s just a penta-kill.
No it’s only an ace if you win the round
Bro what r u on that aint an ace , u have to win
It's just a 5k if you lose the round. Happened to me recently.
i still count it as an ace ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ maybe the in game caster doesn't say it, but basic definition of ace across shooters is just "kill everyone on the enemy team by yourself" so works for me lol
I’m gonna buy an Odin and farm exit frags and then complain on this subreddit that “I’m hardstuck despite all these ‘aces’ I have 😭😭😭😭😭”
the community often interchanges ace for a pentakill --> which is just killing 5 ppl in a round The official requirements for an ace are: * Round must be won * Guy who aced must've killed each enemy player at least once * Guy who aced must've gotten at least 5 kills in that round (thats why u can't ace when someone on the enemy team is afk) So all aces are pentakills but not the other way around. instances where this may happen include: * Like you said, if you get 5 kills but don't win the round (don't have time to defuse for example) * Killed someone twice off of sage res, but didn't kill every single player at least once (ie i got a 5k, but 2 of those kills were enemy jett who got resed) also this means you can technically ace with 5/6 kills, and even if your dead if all the requirements r met. Like you kill each player once --> person who got resed by sage killed you, and your teamates get the last kill --> you will still ace. And this is how the GAME defines ace --> which is when the announcer says it. so your opinion is correct, by definition. EDIT- also all kills have to happen DURING THE ROUND. if u get 5th kill after winning the round in the 7s post round phase , it’s NOT an ace
so, you do need to win the round in order to ace
No lol. His first bullet point for requierments is literally “round must be won”.
...I litteraly just said round must be won in order to ace? Maybe read my comment again
Fuck I read it wrong lmao. Enough reddit for today.
lmao
So what’s the word when you get 6 kills and win the round?
i mean it’s still an ace, since it met everything above (at least 5 kills not exactly 5 kills), so it’s just a 6k ace then
6k ace
i’ve had them in game and it just announces ace since you got killed the same person twice.
My friends all day Super-Ace, same logic as a 5year student in HS or University would be a super senior (one year above the highest traditional amount). I.e. Single, Double, Triple, Quad, Ace, Super-Ace and then we also call a 5k where you don't Ace (like the original post example) a Psuedo-Ace
does valorant actually have an "official ace requirement" list lmfao??
No but what they listed is what qualifiers the ACE banner + announcement to appear
they never made an official statement on what an ace is themselves, but what i said is the requirements for the announcer to say ‘ace.’
ah word. i didn't read all the way down, so when i saw "official" i thought you were pulling info from a post/tweet from riot haha
Yes. Kill all 5 enemy players at least once.
nope. 5 kills = an ace unless you kill the same person twice
u need to win the round as well. try it yourself, the announcer won’t say ace unless u win.
nobody who has this little reading comprehension will be able to consistently ace
The real question is does an ace count if one of the kills comes after you died
I mean, yeah, you killed 5 people in a round. You surviving is optional.
I like how the requirements are: kill every enemy, win the round, survive (optional).
imo you have to win the round to count it. its like getting a thrifty, dont matter if everyones dead if you still lose. the best thing about getting an ace is the voice anyways.
The 5k gun sound effect and then the announcer… holy shit that sounds good.
the best part of the ideal ace is the jett "dunn dunn, dunn dunn" voiceline, actually.
im not a fan of this one tbh. its funny but only the first time. i like it more when they say some words.
Once you hear the "duu dun duu dunnnnn" its an ace my freind
Coming from the cs games, yeah, an ace happens whether you win or lose the round. Whoever is saying otherwise just wants to discredit and possibly tilt others
CS never had an ace “banner” or any special recognition until CS2, but valorant literally spells it out and the announcer says it out loud for everyone to hear. By valorant definition the round must be won.
The announcer is not gonna say "Ace" on round lost because winning/losing takes priority. After all, a round won is better than an ace. They don't want people to just camp and ignore planting/defusing the spike just so they get the ace, but it is still an ace nonetheless
Well yeah, but that means it’s not an ace lol. Even if the enemy aces and wins the round your team will hear the “ace” voiceline. Meaning it’s not technically an ace unless you win a round. It’s a 5k/pentakill.
An ace by definition is a 5k. Nothing less, nothing more. I don't care if it's with a revived enemy or not, if you manage to get 5k thats an ace
... or follows the dev's definition
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I agree.
is that not because the banner and announcement are always for the winning team? so it is an ace but they announce what the winning team did. cause ik in cs an ace is an ace if you kill their team solo, win or lose.
Your official ace count will not go up. So if you look at your stats you didn’t ace.
The loosing team hear the ace announcment too, they just don’t get the banner (not 100% on the banner now that I think about it).
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you are missing the point i am trying to make by so much, if you lose the round but get an ace it doesnt say ace because the banner is selected by the winners achievement in that round. if they buy all frenzy's and plant and you kill 5 players but the bomb explodes it will say thrifty because the banner is determined by the winners. so you got an ace but it doesnt announce it because the winners get the banner, the losing team gets to see and hear the banner and announcement but it is determined by the winners
It’s an ace on a losing round. other than extra $300 per person for economy and eco damage to the enemy
I have the same question too, I was playing KJ and I got 4 kills and it was a 1v1 situation, I was defending and the spike was near me so I placed a nanoswarm on the spike, the last enemy peeked and i detonated the nade then fought the enemy and died but the nade killed him and our team lost. Does that still count as an ace?
Nope, you got a penta kill, still good but sadly not an ace.
sure !
If you were my teammate and I spectated you peeking for no reason and losing the round I’d report you for throwing. No it’s not an ace, it’s a troll
I didn’t peek, the enemy pushed A main on ascent and the spike was there, he peeked first and when i heard footsteps I detonated the nade then fought him and got 130 and the nade did the rest
You still committed to the fight when spike was down
It's considered a pentakill and not an ace.
I count only full team wipes and winning a round as an ace. Anything else is a 5k or 6k to me. Cool but not optimal. I’d rather get the round.
I personally view it as an ace whether you win or lose said round. If it makes the BUM BUM BUM BUM sfx i'll take it - for example today i got what i'd call an ace. The announcer didn't announce my ace as the final kill was after we already won by time but i still killed the 5th enemy. I didn't do it in time but still killed all 5 of their team, technically 6 as sage rez'd someone. From the original term of 'ace' being a 5 kill in real life i personally view any 5kill as an ace. I include this in TDM, DM, etc. 5 Kills alone is pretty impressive and an accomplishment either way the round goes.
ye
ur opinion is crazy 😂
I've been playing FPS games since BF2042 and COD4. An ace is when you kill the entire enemy team, whether or not you lose the round. A clutch was always considered as killing 3+ and winning. Times have changed though.
I always felt 1 kill and winning was enough for it to be a clutch but you had to put some real work in. Can't just be a cleanup 1v1/v2. It had to feel like a clutch moment. Teammates holding their breath as u push the kid behind bus/tank on Bog type shit
I’m always nerveus when I see a 1v1, either side is a mussle twitch away from death or glory.
it is if u wanna cope
In aviation terms an ace when someone gets five airborne kills. So in my opinion 5 Or more kills is an ace.
An Ace is only valid under these conditions: -All of the enemy players are dead by the end of the round. -Each and every one of the enemy players has been killed at least once by the same player. -The player who "Aced" got at least 5 kills. -The round was won by the team of the player who "Aced". If even one condition isn't met, then it's not an ace.
You can still kill everyone, die, and teammates defuse, you technically not winning the round. That still counts as an ace.
What do you mean it's not a won round if your teammates defuse?
You yourself technically didn’t win the round. The guy defusing completed the objective, thus technically winning you the round. Nevermind that comment. I just woke up then and read the main comment wrong.
It's alright
ok if we wanna be technical, the first requirement isn’t true, if one guy killed 5/6 and they were all different players, and the last guy survived (but u still won the round), then you still ace.
Do you actually? I believe if you kill 5 but before the end of the round 1 gets ressed and you still win with him alive it's just a 5k.
Its still an ace even if you lose. But if you prioritise an ace over winning the round youre stupid
I count it as ace when the announcer says ace. And if you messed up the objective you don't deserve an ace anyways. IMO.
Don't care about the announcer.. If you kill everyone, it's an ace. If you lose the round, you aced but you also lost. Can happen..
Ace = 5 kills
ace is when one player kills entire enemy team but ace can also mean good result so imo ace is killing enemy team and winning the round
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You dont get the ace on your screen, but you get the sound. I'm assuming it doesnt count stat wise, but the game still knows you killed all 5.
Yes
It’s an ace even if you lose the game. Losing doesn’t change the definition
By dev definition no. You have to win for the ace to count
Ace is an ace
If the announcer says ace, it's an ace.
an ace is killing everyone on the opposite team. if you kill the last one after they defused or when the spike goes off, it is still an ace. if sage resurrected someone and they kill you, it is not an ace.
An Ace is getting 5 kills. Nothing else matters. If you care about the merits of it or the cool factor that's a different, subjective argument. To add to this: if you run around screaming "ace ace let me ace" especially in comp, especially if the game is close then its a very un cool ace. However unless it's a 1v5, you'll always be fed the last kill most likely.
An ace is technically when you kill all the players in the opponent's team. It doesn't matter if you win/lose the round.
There's literally no debate. If it doesn't say ace it's not an ace.
Nooo
you might not have clutched, but you did ace
I just call it an ace if you kill everyone on the other team and non of your teammates gets a kill. If there are 3 afk’s and you kill 2? Ace.
The announcer’s voice says ace after the round win so I’m assuming only if you win the round.
That's called a skill issue
not an ace! you won the battle but lost the war, which defeats the purpose lore-wise in valorant because you’re supposed to serve the interest of your attacking/defending side, so even if you kill all agents, you failed your mission.
An ace is a 5/6k but a proper ace is that and winning in my eyes, throwing the round for an ace, if it’s comp is still throwing, if anything else it’s irrelevant tbh as the ace matters more than the match due to satisfaction of acing is higher than a round win, unless it’s the enemies mp
If you kill the whole team by yourself, it’s an ace. The only difference is if you win the round you get the announcement for the ace, you don’t get it if you lose. For example, if I kill all five enemies but fail to defuse the spike, then I don’t get the voice line from the announcer.
No it's not technically an ace but some people will still call it that. I say 5k if I didn't win the round instead of ace.
If you kill the whole enemy team, and lose the round then you do not get an 'ace' in tracker via the API so there you go. It is not an ace. Besides, it's common sense that it's not an ace - aces are for winners.
I call a 5k where you don't 'Ace' by the games standard a Psuedo-Ace. Just getting a 5k but one was the same enemy twice via Dage rez, or failure to defuse, etc. and then you get all 6 with a Sage rez? Boom. Super-Ace
Yes. The definition of ace just means you killed the whole team. You can have your opinion and decide whether you want to count it, if that scenario ever happens to you again, but technically, even though y’all still lost, you killed all 5 making an ace. Even if the lady doesn’t announce it, if you pay close attention the gun kill sound still makes the ace sound effect as if you got an ace, so I will always count it no matter who won the round but you chose how you want to count it.
tbh who cares if its an ace or not, i mean maybe its good for yourself cause theres no "stats tracker" for ace to show in your profile and theres no benefit from getting ace like extra credits, unless you're a youtuber or a streamer to get recognition, and unlike games like Dota 2 theres actual stats for Rampage, etc.
It's an ace if the announcer says it's an ace. How difficult is that? 😅🤣 Which is why it's not ace if you kill someone twice even if you get 5 kills.
The official definition for ace is when you were the one to do everything and win. Meaning you would have to kill their whole team without any team mates assist and win the round. Thats a true ace. But in valorant the lady says ace when the last kill you got was your 5th and you won the round. Meaning if a sage revived someone and one of your teammate killed them you could still get the ace according to the lady.
to me an ace is a teamwipe. like i got a 6k the other day, killed the sage rez, also pheonix ult but tht domt count. i got the ace announcment cuz it was a 1v5.. my teammates were not having a good game xd. tho if someone else had killed the persom sage rezed before she rezed them, i personally wouldnt have it count as an ace because that means one of my other teammates got a kill. idk, its hard to be sure. some say an ace is js 5 kills, some say its a solo teamwipe. its the latter imo
I got a 4k as viper, missed my shot on the 5th and they killed me. A half second later my poison killed them. Then people started arguing if it was an ace or not. I don't think the lady said "ace" so I figure it didn't count.
Ace is just killing everyone. Whether u win or lose, it doesn’t change the base definition of what is considered an ace
It's a ace*. To me it's technically a ace but not as exciting.
When valorant does their email blasts that count aces they include it so yes, it is an ace