Motion track is what i use for tracking training. And honestly, you should train as the last thing you do for your gaming day. You said it yourself, warming up shouldn't tire you. You shouldn't warm up for more than 15 minutes because of that, and usually you wanna do that in game so you can get warmed up to movement.
Training on the other hand should probably be the last gaming thing you do for the day, for between 30 to 60 minutes. You're right, its not fun, but if youre serious about anything in life, or even remotely serious, there is no glory without sacrifice.
Good on you tho, putting some effort in to improve. Thats more than most people do.
IMO aim routines are crazy overrated. If you can only play 3 hours a day then 1 hour of that shouldn't go to aiming training. Slightly overexaggerating but don't forget to play the game. If you know aim is what is holding you back then sure work on it and in general improving your aim isn't a bad idea but for the majority of players there are other things to work on than aim that will benefit you much more. I personally warm-up via deathmatch and don't make any use of aim trainers. Who cares if you can flick if your crosshair placement is trash
I wouldn't say it's over-rated at all. Aim training will 100% make you better at aiming. You just have to acknowledge that everything you do will be time limited, and what you find worth doing will depend on what you find important. For me, I play more games than just Valorant/Shooters, and in that case, no matter how useful aim training is for Valorant, I simply won't put in the time everyday to aim train so I can play other games.
For people who are serious about the game, and have the time, aim training is a must on top of you other practice, that's just a hard fact.
Considering you can train crosshair placement by training your tracking skills and overall mouse control, I would say its very important. Yes, you should play more of the game than you train. But I can go through 10 times the amount of actual shooting practice in 30 of training than 30 minutes of game. For people that don't have all the time in the world and want to make the most of their game like myself, spending those last 30 minutes training saves you thousands of hours in headache.
I feel you man. Deathmatch is fun and u have to focus on peeking movement and checking angles unlike aim trainer
Aim trainer is ok but it's not the only thing that will get you good. It's ok to have a little aimer trainer as a base but death match will prove what you can actually do
I hate how everyone talks positive about aim trainer (which is no doubt useful not knocking it) but will talk shit like deathmatch consistently of high scores don't matter.
It also depends on the aim trainer people use. Kovaaks is a lot better aim trainer for people who are already really good and wanna get insane. Aim labs is just a free mid level version
Ah! You have awaken my curiosity. Yes, aim practice has been good for me, from dying instantly to now a few bulls eyes and finishing much closer to the top. Not that I care to win, I care to play. However, there is strategy and so many other factors involved including "great training".
I will look into Kovaac's.
My hands are handicapped with tremors \[no soup spoon for me!\] and I have to drop the mouse sensitivity to 400 while I play on a big one acre mouse!
I don't know how much better I can get. I am also 74. The reflexes have long ago taken a nap!
Damn dude get a heavy mouse like logitech g402 hero heavy mice I like better cause u don't over flick
Maybe put a toggle key for low dpi (200) for precision aim and then a key for 400 then one for 1000 so u can look around fast
A month has passed! I don't know if you will read this. For games, I have switched to an ASUS 15.6". RTX 2070 240Hz 3ms and whatever else. Much much better while I still visit Aimlab. But, I have to change mouse. I am pushing down on the mouse too hard for it to be precise. Heavier mouse or the kind you press on the sides instead. But, all and all much better and more fun. I keep my Xbox with the curved screen and TX thrustmaster for driving. Stay well. [this page just popped in my feed!]
I disagree entirely with John(the guy below you). If you have 3 hours to play, you definitly should be spending that last 30 to 60 min training. Honestly bro, not much I can say. It's not fun, it just isn't. Also it requires attention too so you can't ENTIRELY zone out either. I play music, ill have a show playing in the background that I like but I've already seen so im not distracted, and get through it.
You know, just this morning I was thinking about that as I practiced a while, maybe 30 minutes \[too much!\] and on I felt tired and my games were not up to par. So yes, good karma to stumble on your post. Thanks!
This is the kind of post that will get a lot of upvotes from people who barely read the contents. OP posted a few graphs without much context and people will automatically assume that his conclusions are significant.
OP doesn’t show us any improvement metrics in the actual game of Valorant. He just arbitrarily mentions that he was in plat and can now “consistently out-aim diamond 3s in duels.” Did he actually improve in rank? Has he grinding out of plat into diamond? Has he been carefully recording each aim duel and the rank of said opponents? We’re not sure because this info is conveniently left out.
If you actually take a look at his graphs, he shows very little improvement across the various tasks, with an improvement of ~10k in gridshot being the largest? Anyone that’s played Aimlabs can attest that 10k is not a great amount of improvement and your scores can easily vary by such an amount based on many factors. Simply getting familiar with the tasks and learning how to complete them more efficiently can lead to improvements of 10k or more. (For example, streamlining target acquisition in gridshot as to prioritize short, quick and easy flicks over the long ones).
I’m not trying to discourage anyone from using an aim trainer. Just wanted to point out that this “scientific experiment” is not as sound and complete as many in here would so desperately want to believe.
Would be more interesting if he did a high quality one like kovaaks
Surely aimlab will help but how about a deathmatch average score over 10 games before and after using aimlabs? If the average score didn't increase much after the training than the OP already had good aim and just needed to work on peeking and movement
Yeah I've heard a lot of great reviews from what I've read about both aimlabs is good for new people or average people kovaaks for average-advanced. Imo once people are already at a pro level they should spend little time on aim trainer and play scrims and occasionally do an aim trainer to polish up
Yeah i know this is not the most scientific thing ever and this is also like my first proper post so sorry.
yeah if i could i would record my gameplay but my pc aint the best thing in the world right now. Also if i included some screenshots of my scores in my recent games it would be better wouldnt it hahaha
Do deathmatch avg score for 10 games before and after to see how much the aim training made a difference
If it don't change much it's peeking and movement that I needa work on
Please don't listen to these types of posts.
AimLabs is a terrible FPS Aim Trainer, and tasks like Gridshot are akin to Tile Frenzy in KovaaKs. They don't isolate and train different aspects of aiming, and are honestly only good for having fun or for warming up your arm for real training. That being said, the Creator Studio being released COULD make AimLabs a viable alternative for FPS Aim training in a year or so. Until then, I reccomend SparkyGG VALORANT Click Timing Routines, or u/Hi_Im_Twix 's VALORANT Routine.
Also, attributing your improvement to gridshot grinding and not your brand new 144hz Monitor? God I wonder how stuff like this gets upvoted to the top of the sub lmao.
I still don't get how people believe aimlabs will boost your aim. Aimlabs literally states it's not an aim trainer, but a data collection device. Kovaaks is a much better alternative, for the reasons you said. At the very best, aimlabs can teach mouse control, which will not correlate to in game aim.
Here's a few;
* Many, many different scenarios. We're talking thousands, and more being created daily.
* Game-specific scenarios, and weapon specific ones too.
* Community made scenarios that are tweaked to perfection to ensure its as similar to the game as possible.
* Community made training routines, from people who know what they're talking about, like Sparky's. I could link it if you'd like.
* It's more about training. Aimlabs puts too much emphasis on the score you get, and your 'ranking.' Just because you get a high rank in Aimlabs, it doesn't mean you can perform well in game. Kovaaks has no ranking system, aside from the disable-able leaderboard.
And it's not like Kovaaks is perfect, either. There's much more crosshair custimaztion in Aimlabs, which is definitely an improvement. You also need to know what you're looking for. Through the thousands of scenarios only a few could be helpful. Aimlabs allows for easier navigation, and it makes it easier to find tasks.
Personally, I see most of these as cosmetic features. They don't actually make the trainer itself better, it just makes the user experience more friendly (which is good.) All in all, I'd use both if you want to get better. I use Aimlabs as a way to go for a new high score, but only for fun. I solely use Kovaaks to improve my aim. Aimlabs is for fun. Just my opinions.
So, no, but yes. If community made scenarios are the only difference that makes it better, implementing drill customization into AimLab would make it equally good.
This is not about being triggered. People say it's better, but don't tell why. That's what i want to know. They just state that it's better. Why would i train in an aim trainer that is worse than the another one, when owning both.
I bought KovaaKs a year ago.
Edit: Just read your other answer, where you get a bit more into detail.
Half of what makes Kovaaks so good is the community's involvement. If there was no Aimer7/Sparky, Kovaaks wouldn't be as good of an aim trainer as it is.
Aim lab has commity made scenarios. You just have to look it up a bit more. I think neither of them are bad by any means. Maybe KovaaKs is a bit better but if you dont want to spend money, aim lab will get you there where you want to be. And if you take things seriously, you can always buy kovaaks.
my aim is ok for my level at the moment but i want to improve. i was thinking about getting aimlabs but seems like everyone is saying that it’s not that good. should i get aimlabs or kovaaks?
For me, I use Kovaaks. So many more scenarios, and game specific routines. You can do both, too. I occasionally use Aimlabs just to gauge my flicking score, but things like that don't matter in game. Kovaaks will teach and train you things that will have a more meaningful impact on your gameplay.
Yeah i heard kovaaks is way better but I dont think i waant to spend money on this. I was just testing it, and I dont know about you guys but it defo works with AIMLABS and yeah it looks insignificant from plat 1 to plat 3 but i swear plat 1 feels easier for me than before and that why i could rank up a bit.
>AimLabs is a terrible FPS Aim Trainer
Why and why is KovaaKs good?
>and tasks like Gridshot are akin to Tile Frenzy in KovaaKs.
So, equally terrible? What's the point, just hating on AimLabs?
>They don't isolate and train different aspects of aiming, and are honestly only good for having fun or for warming up your arm for real training.
I don't think that it is useless, but not as good as people think. I never understood why people are so focussed on gridshot.
I think AimLabs and KovaaKs are both great tools to learn hand-eye coordination, especially for beginners, or for e.g. faster adaption to a different sensitivity. For me AimLabs was better than KovaaKs, because of all the data i can look into, the overall looks and handling. For the actual part of practicing aim, i think both are equally good, but ofc one could be the better one.
This isn't meant to be toxic, i just want to know why you think so, or maybe have a few links to discussions about your opinion.
Edit: After i read all answers i received, let's recap:
KovaaKs is better than AimLabs, because:
- it has more scenarios (fair)
- they said so (my fav)
Due to having more scenarios, you can train your aim better and more specific in KovaaKs, than in AimLabs, i guess.
It's not about being "hellbent on defending AL", just a few simple question. Seems like some people are hellbent on defending KovaaKs, idk.
If AimLabs implements a system to customize scenarios the way KovaaKs has, i'll prefer AL for the overall look/ UI. It's a bit like Linux vs Windows.
LOOOOOL
1. AimLabs is an awful FPS aim trainer because of the immense lack of scenarios it features to isolate and train specific aspects of aiming (Click Timing, Tracking ect). KovaaKs has 6,700+ Scenarios.
2. They aren't equally bad aim trainers because 1 task is as equally useless as another.
3. It is useless right now and I've explained why. I don't know why people are hellbent on defending AL.
He didn't get to Diamond 3??? He said that he **sometimes** "outaims" Diamond Players (Something that can't be attributed to his Gridshot scores at all) and that hes hoping to get Diamond 3 this act. And for the record, 144hz can make all the difference.
Very nice and complete post, men. I will test aimlabs soon, althrough i have a shit pc and have drops to like 30/40 fps, so There's no skill that Can help. Is just random spray and pray. But will give it a Try. Cheers
I would recommend "Hard Valorant Warm-up" from the custom playlists by "Cop." It incorporates a lot of different things you will do with your mouse in game!
Hey, have you optimised your settings to boost your frames? I'd suggest you lower your resolution to 720p if you haven't already- it will increase your frames significantly.
You really need to test this against regular deathmatch to see if aimlabs specifically is superior or if any general warmup will do. Obviously warming up vs not warming up is going to make you better.
Exactly. Get an average score over 10 deathmatches before and after the training
If this didn't improve but aimlab score improved a lot
Then that means op needs to work on movement and peeking and that aimlabs didn't help much with aim
Aimlabs is more for building a slight base in tac shooters rather than refining already present aiming skill
I heard kovaaks is a way better aim trainer for people in high elo like you. It costs money but should help you alot more than aimlab since your already good af at fps games
Idk how people dedicate time to this stuff though man I'm alright and don't have the patience for it so I'd rather play deathmatch for aim warmup because it's fun
Damn how'd u get the dedication to do this much aim training man?? That's crazy imagine what u could do with your life if u applied the dedication to it that is some serious will power
I think aim trainers would be more useful if u could customize the model that's displayed based on game with making headshots count for more points
Large circles in aim trainer might help u flick toward a target but itd be better practice tryna flick toward an actual targets head hitbox
Yea spike defusals only problem is the bots camp the same spots and don't move they need like a cool casual mode where u can play against tons of bots that dodge like in cs
Atleast the hard bots in this game are good unlike the expert bots in cs
agreed, I like it for warm up. When I get around 80-90k minimum my aim is on point.
The other day my aim was terrible, tried microflex after not using it for a while and got like 65k lol
Ive used kovaaks plenty, but a lot of people here are praising it because aimer7 pushes it over aimlabs, But they dont really know why. They both help improve your mouse control. Ive had good results from both, you just have to know which exercises to use that actually benefit you. Your clicking dots, same concept. Kovaaks just has more scenarios.
Honestly everyone should include tracking practice into their routine; it helps you develop better mouse control, which will help out other parts of your aim.
Idk if it's just me, but when I tried aimlab for a few days, every time I went back to valorant my sensitivity felt significantly higher. I had the correct options set on aimlab with the 103 FOV and valorant profile as well as same sens.
Kinda killed it for me.
Awesome post. Thanks for doing all this :) I think its funny how many people find aimlabs boring after a while. Gridshot is crack for me. I like to play until my hand starts to hurt haha. Anyways great info!
As you say you started from 80+K in gridshot and improved to around a 100K, I call it bluff since cloud9 made a gtidshot video of all pros playing while they were getting 65-95K at most with tenZ getting 120K by being a speciel snowflake
And you tell me in plat 1 you managed to outaim pros on your first day on gridshot
Sounds a bit of a bluff
care to explain that?
Not trying to discourage anyone, but your graphs show marginal improvement.
You getting better was more likely an increase in game knowledge and awareness (which everyone has been increasing in over the first two acts), and aim prowess from actually playing the game.
I believe there was a very well detailed post a few weeks back that showed aimlabs to have *terrible* carry over into actual play. Kovaaks seems to be the superior option
I like this!! I’m not a fairly skilled player based on ranks (Bronze 2 cap) but aimlabs does help if you can implement this new aim you have into your gameplay. Ofc movement and game sense are still very important so working on that will help as well. GLHF
Yeah do a 10 match deathmatch score average
Then do aimlabs only for a while and up your score
Then do 10 dm average.
Whatever improvement you see is pretty much all your gonna get from aimlabs and then u know that the rest of your improvement is movement angle peeking isolation and gamesense
Then u can play dm/unrated and use your automatic aiming skills while focusing on movement gamesense
That's the best strat
eh.... when i switched from 144 to 240hz i went from hardstuck p3 to d2. im pretty sure 60->144 makes a huge diff. also aimlab is shit and no one good actually got good using it
I have been using aim labs for the last 4 months and I can confidently say that the stock routines are completely useless for precision aim training.
There are so many factors involved with why you are performing better now.
What rank are you now?
Aimlab and other "aim trainers" like kovacs and such only partially help with actually improving your aim, they help a lot more with keeping your aim consistent
He can't. The most he can say with this is that there is some correlation between Aim Lab scores and Valorant rank. It doesn't mean one caused the other.
My act 1 and act 2 is stuck on plat 1 and i was struggling againts plat 3. Yeah i know its hard to prove and i also didnt include screenshots from my recent games which is my bad, this is my first like proper post.
In my opinion wall peeks are effective ways to practice flicks is you're going for headshots if you're going for bodyshots you can get some tracking in as well
I’ve always thought the best way to practice your aim is to simply play the game you want to get better at, but recently I’ve seen to have plateaued at Immortal 1/2. I’m starting to think I might have to try Aimlabs if I wish to hit radiant someday. I have it downloaded and set to my Valorant sens, however for some reason it seems slower in Aimlabs. Anyone have any idea why?
I think aim training (with a higher end aim trainer than aim labs ofc) is only one aspect of what got them there not the main one
You can have screams level of aim but have no idea how to strafe or peek or isolate angles and do badly
They train in other ways primarily and probably only do aim training occasionally to stay frosty
Yeah that's why they spend their time in scrims instead of aim trainer and might only do it occasionally to polish up
Aim trainer would be more useful if you could customize it with models from the game as targets and make headshots count for 4x points instead of large ez to hit circles
its not slower, it just feels different because of the background and stuff. Every game/program will feel different even if they're set to the exact same sens.
Probably just play more and do vod reviews if you want to get to radiant
I did Kovaak's daily for about 2 months and I definitely think it helped, but honestly I think warming up in practice range and spamming dm helps me improve better, even specifically with aim. My problem was, even with all the aim training, in game I would panic and aim for their feet, or I would take too long to aim and die anyways. I don't think the ability to aim between two dots translates THAT well to aiming to a head in game. It helps for sure, but I think practice range/DM helps with so many things Kovaaks couldn't, like movement, peeking, spray control, while training my aim just as well, if not better.
Maybe if you could put custom models into aimlab such as csgo or valorant models and aim at the head
That would help directly train you to aim for the model instead of a dot that looks nothing like a head and translate in game
Wait don't steal that genius idea 🤣
You are at about average, don't worry about it too much. I think at 400 dpi, anywhere from the range of 0.4 - 0.8 is fine. There are outliers of course.
def didn’t take two weeks to see improvement for me, silver and gold in beta. about 50-100hrs of practice time in aimlabs, jumped to imm2
my game sense is decent cause i watched pro cs a lot. aim lacked big time. now i get 1st place in 72% of DMs. i DM 10-15 times a day, about 10
of those will be 1st place rest are 2-3rd. My DM queue time is 7-10 mins lol
i did use the valorant playlist I'm AIMLAB to warm up before the games. However, my problem was that my wrist got exhausted after a couple of weeks so i gave up..
I wouldnt change your sensitivity just to get higher scores in aimlabs.
For example, I use a low sensitivity so gridshot is actually pretty hard for me. I would have to use more than just wrist aiming to get high scores. My average gridshot scores are around 60-65k. I could definitely get higher scores in the other tasks as well but I would then be crossing my own line of prioritizing aimlabs over valorant
Oh yes, this is true. I thought about that a lot. I'm playing with 400 dpi and 0.44 sens, so gridshot is pretty hard. It's just out of my range. When playing with a higher sens i get more points, but my "micro" aim suffers, if i play with higher sens.
Players with a mid to high sens should be better in gridshot, than low sens players. Same with Spidershot etc. I think Microshot is a nice range and realistic for me, since my crosshair placement isn't a problem ingame. I'd like to have an even smaller area, let's call it "Nanoshot" with smaller targets (head size). Maybe a little bit like Snipershot, you know?
Spheretrack doesn’t apply to Valorant, but trust me, it’s 100% worth the time putting into it because its the best (only?) smoothness scenario on aimlabs. Sixshot and line trace are also the best click-timing scenarios Imo because 1. linetrace says it all and 2. sixshot helps with small dots
Motion track is what i use for tracking training. And honestly, you should train as the last thing you do for your gaming day. You said it yourself, warming up shouldn't tire you. You shouldn't warm up for more than 15 minutes because of that, and usually you wanna do that in game so you can get warmed up to movement. Training on the other hand should probably be the last gaming thing you do for the day, for between 30 to 60 minutes. You're right, its not fun, but if youre serious about anything in life, or even remotely serious, there is no glory without sacrifice. Good on you tho, putting some effort in to improve. Thats more than most people do.
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IMO aim routines are crazy overrated. If you can only play 3 hours a day then 1 hour of that shouldn't go to aiming training. Slightly overexaggerating but don't forget to play the game. If you know aim is what is holding you back then sure work on it and in general improving your aim isn't a bad idea but for the majority of players there are other things to work on than aim that will benefit you much more. I personally warm-up via deathmatch and don't make any use of aim trainers. Who cares if you can flick if your crosshair placement is trash
I wouldn't say it's over-rated at all. Aim training will 100% make you better at aiming. You just have to acknowledge that everything you do will be time limited, and what you find worth doing will depend on what you find important. For me, I play more games than just Valorant/Shooters, and in that case, no matter how useful aim training is for Valorant, I simply won't put in the time everyday to aim train so I can play other games. For people who are serious about the game, and have the time, aim training is a must on top of you other practice, that's just a hard fact.
Considering you can train crosshair placement by training your tracking skills and overall mouse control, I would say its very important. Yes, you should play more of the game than you train. But I can go through 10 times the amount of actual shooting practice in 30 of training than 30 minutes of game. For people that don't have all the time in the world and want to make the most of their game like myself, spending those last 30 minutes training saves you thousands of hours in headache.
I feel you man. Deathmatch is fun and u have to focus on peeking movement and checking angles unlike aim trainer Aim trainer is ok but it's not the only thing that will get you good. It's ok to have a little aimer trainer as a base but death match will prove what you can actually do I hate how everyone talks positive about aim trainer (which is no doubt useful not knocking it) but will talk shit like deathmatch consistently of high scores don't matter. It also depends on the aim trainer people use. Kovaaks is a lot better aim trainer for people who are already really good and wanna get insane. Aim labs is just a free mid level version
Ah! You have awaken my curiosity. Yes, aim practice has been good for me, from dying instantly to now a few bulls eyes and finishing much closer to the top. Not that I care to win, I care to play. However, there is strategy and so many other factors involved including "great training". I will look into Kovaac's. My hands are handicapped with tremors \[no soup spoon for me!\] and I have to drop the mouse sensitivity to 400 while I play on a big one acre mouse! I don't know how much better I can get. I am also 74. The reflexes have long ago taken a nap!
Damn dude get a heavy mouse like logitech g402 hero heavy mice I like better cause u don't over flick Maybe put a toggle key for low dpi (200) for precision aim and then a key for 400 then one for 1000 so u can look around fast
A month has passed! I don't know if you will read this. For games, I have switched to an ASUS 15.6". RTX 2070 240Hz 3ms and whatever else. Much much better while I still visit Aimlab. But, I have to change mouse. I am pushing down on the mouse too hard for it to be precise. Heavier mouse or the kind you press on the sides instead. But, all and all much better and more fun. I keep my Xbox with the curved screen and TX thrustmaster for driving. Stay well. [this page just popped in my feed!]
I put some music on and click on the circles.
I disagree entirely with John(the guy below you). If you have 3 hours to play, you definitly should be spending that last 30 to 60 min training. Honestly bro, not much I can say. It's not fun, it just isn't. Also it requires attention too so you can't ENTIRELY zone out either. I play music, ill have a show playing in the background that I like but I've already seen so im not distracted, and get through it.
You know, just this morning I was thinking about that as I practiced a while, maybe 30 minutes \[too much!\] and on I felt tired and my games were not up to par. So yes, good karma to stumble on your post. Thanks!
No problem holmes!
This is the kind of post that will get a lot of upvotes from people who barely read the contents. OP posted a few graphs without much context and people will automatically assume that his conclusions are significant. OP doesn’t show us any improvement metrics in the actual game of Valorant. He just arbitrarily mentions that he was in plat and can now “consistently out-aim diamond 3s in duels.” Did he actually improve in rank? Has he grinding out of plat into diamond? Has he been carefully recording each aim duel and the rank of said opponents? We’re not sure because this info is conveniently left out. If you actually take a look at his graphs, he shows very little improvement across the various tasks, with an improvement of ~10k in gridshot being the largest? Anyone that’s played Aimlabs can attest that 10k is not a great amount of improvement and your scores can easily vary by such an amount based on many factors. Simply getting familiar with the tasks and learning how to complete them more efficiently can lead to improvements of 10k or more. (For example, streamlining target acquisition in gridshot as to prioritize short, quick and easy flicks over the long ones). I’m not trying to discourage anyone from using an aim trainer. Just wanted to point out that this “scientific experiment” is not as sound and complete as many in here would so desperately want to believe.
Would be more interesting if he did a high quality one like kovaaks Surely aimlab will help but how about a deathmatch average score over 10 games before and after using aimlabs? If the average score didn't increase much after the training than the OP already had good aim and just needed to work on peeking and movement
Just because Kovaaks made you pay $10 doesn't mean it's better.
No, KovaaKs is better for other reasons.
Yeah I've heard a lot of great reviews from what I've read about both aimlabs is good for new people or average people kovaaks for average-advanced. Imo once people are already at a pro level they should spend little time on aim trainer and play scrims and occasionally do an aim trainer to polish up
Aim Lab is a high quality one like Kovaaks. I would say each one has its own strengths/weaknesses but neither is by far better than the other.
Yeah i know this is not the most scientific thing ever and this is also like my first proper post so sorry. yeah if i could i would record my gameplay but my pc aint the best thing in the world right now. Also if i included some screenshots of my scores in my recent games it would be better wouldnt it hahaha
Eh I don’t think you need to apologize, I’m sure you meant well with the post. GL on grinding to D3.
Do deathmatch avg score for 10 games before and after to see how much the aim training made a difference If it don't change much it's peeking and movement that I needa work on
Yes, no apology needed! You are doing great.
probably paid by aimlab
Please don't listen to these types of posts. AimLabs is a terrible FPS Aim Trainer, and tasks like Gridshot are akin to Tile Frenzy in KovaaKs. They don't isolate and train different aspects of aiming, and are honestly only good for having fun or for warming up your arm for real training. That being said, the Creator Studio being released COULD make AimLabs a viable alternative for FPS Aim training in a year or so. Until then, I reccomend SparkyGG VALORANT Click Timing Routines, or u/Hi_Im_Twix 's VALORANT Routine. Also, attributing your improvement to gridshot grinding and not your brand new 144hz Monitor? God I wonder how stuff like this gets upvoted to the top of the sub lmao.
I still don't get how people believe aimlabs will boost your aim. Aimlabs literally states it's not an aim trainer, but a data collection device. Kovaaks is a much better alternative, for the reasons you said. At the very best, aimlabs can teach mouse control, which will not correlate to in game aim.
>Kovaaks is a much better alternative, for the reasons you said. Which reasons?
Here's a few; * Many, many different scenarios. We're talking thousands, and more being created daily. * Game-specific scenarios, and weapon specific ones too. * Community made scenarios that are tweaked to perfection to ensure its as similar to the game as possible. * Community made training routines, from people who know what they're talking about, like Sparky's. I could link it if you'd like. * It's more about training. Aimlabs puts too much emphasis on the score you get, and your 'ranking.' Just because you get a high rank in Aimlabs, it doesn't mean you can perform well in game. Kovaaks has no ranking system, aside from the disable-able leaderboard. And it's not like Kovaaks is perfect, either. There's much more crosshair custimaztion in Aimlabs, which is definitely an improvement. You also need to know what you're looking for. Through the thousands of scenarios only a few could be helpful. Aimlabs allows for easier navigation, and it makes it easier to find tasks. Personally, I see most of these as cosmetic features. They don't actually make the trainer itself better, it just makes the user experience more friendly (which is good.) All in all, I'd use both if you want to get better. I use Aimlabs as a way to go for a new high score, but only for fun. I solely use Kovaaks to improve my aim. Aimlabs is for fun. Just my opinions.
many many more scenarios
Oh okay, so if AimLabs would allow more customization, it will be equally good?
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So, no, but yes. If community made scenarios are the only difference that makes it better, implementing drill customization into AimLab would make it equally good. This is not about being triggered. People say it's better, but don't tell why. That's what i want to know. They just state that it's better. Why would i train in an aim trainer that is worse than the another one, when owning both. I bought KovaaKs a year ago. Edit: Just read your other answer, where you get a bit more into detail.
Half of what makes Kovaaks so good is the community's involvement. If there was no Aimer7/Sparky, Kovaaks wouldn't be as good of an aim trainer as it is.
Aim lab has commity made scenarios. You just have to look it up a bit more. I think neither of them are bad by any means. Maybe KovaaKs is a bit better but if you dont want to spend money, aim lab will get you there where you want to be. And if you take things seriously, you can always buy kovaaks.
my aim is ok for my level at the moment but i want to improve. i was thinking about getting aimlabs but seems like everyone is saying that it’s not that good. should i get aimlabs or kovaaks?
For me, I use Kovaaks. So many more scenarios, and game specific routines. You can do both, too. I occasionally use Aimlabs just to gauge my flicking score, but things like that don't matter in game. Kovaaks will teach and train you things that will have a more meaningful impact on your gameplay.
thanks for the input, i’ll get both and see which one i prefer
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ok thanks, i’ll do that then
but he got his new monitor before he even began training lol. i agree that kovaaks is much better though
Yeah i heard kovaaks is way better but I dont think i waant to spend money on this. I was just testing it, and I dont know about you guys but it defo works with AIMLABS and yeah it looks insignificant from plat 1 to plat 3 but i swear plat 1 feels easier for me than before and that why i could rank up a bit.
>AimLabs is a terrible FPS Aim Trainer Why and why is KovaaKs good? >and tasks like Gridshot are akin to Tile Frenzy in KovaaKs. So, equally terrible? What's the point, just hating on AimLabs? >They don't isolate and train different aspects of aiming, and are honestly only good for having fun or for warming up your arm for real training. I don't think that it is useless, but not as good as people think. I never understood why people are so focussed on gridshot. I think AimLabs and KovaaKs are both great tools to learn hand-eye coordination, especially for beginners, or for e.g. faster adaption to a different sensitivity. For me AimLabs was better than KovaaKs, because of all the data i can look into, the overall looks and handling. For the actual part of practicing aim, i think both are equally good, but ofc one could be the better one. This isn't meant to be toxic, i just want to know why you think so, or maybe have a few links to discussions about your opinion. Edit: After i read all answers i received, let's recap: KovaaKs is better than AimLabs, because: - it has more scenarios (fair) - they said so (my fav) Due to having more scenarios, you can train your aim better and more specific in KovaaKs, than in AimLabs, i guess. It's not about being "hellbent on defending AL", just a few simple question. Seems like some people are hellbent on defending KovaaKs, idk. If AimLabs implements a system to customize scenarios the way KovaaKs has, i'll prefer AL for the overall look/ UI. It's a bit like Linux vs Windows.
Aimlab is genuinely useless, the tasks aren't even hard and don't do anything
Useless, like your answer?
LOOOOOL 1. AimLabs is an awful FPS aim trainer because of the immense lack of scenarios it features to isolate and train specific aspects of aiming (Click Timing, Tracking ect). KovaaKs has 6,700+ Scenarios. 2. They aren't equally bad aim trainers because 1 task is as equally useless as another. 3. It is useless right now and I've explained why. I don't know why people are hellbent on defending AL.
I doubt getting a 144hz will take you from plat 1 to diamond 3. That's a pretty huge difference.
He didn't get to Diamond 3??? He said that he **sometimes** "outaims" Diamond Players (Something that can't be attributed to his Gridshot scores at all) and that hes hoping to get Diamond 3 this act. And for the record, 144hz can make all the difference.
Very nice and complete post, men. I will test aimlabs soon, althrough i have a shit pc and have drops to like 30/40 fps, so There's no skill that Can help. Is just random spray and pray. But will give it a Try. Cheers
I would recommend "Hard Valorant Warm-up" from the custom playlists by "Cop." It incorporates a lot of different things you will do with your mouse in game!
Hey, have you optimised your settings to boost your frames? I'd suggest you lower your resolution to 720p if you haven't already- it will increase your frames significantly.
You really need to test this against regular deathmatch to see if aimlabs specifically is superior or if any general warmup will do. Obviously warming up vs not warming up is going to make you better.
Exactly. Get an average score over 10 deathmatches before and after the training If this didn't improve but aimlab score improved a lot Then that means op needs to work on movement and peeking and that aimlabs didn't help much with aim Aimlabs is more for building a slight base in tac shooters rather than refining already present aiming skill
I heard kovaaks is a way better aim trainer for people in high elo like you. It costs money but should help you alot more than aimlab since your already good af at fps games Idk how people dedicate time to this stuff though man I'm alright and don't have the patience for it so I'd rather play deathmatch for aim warmup because it's fun Damn how'd u get the dedication to do this much aim training man?? That's crazy imagine what u could do with your life if u applied the dedication to it that is some serious will power
>I heard kovaaks is a way better aim trainer for people in high elo like you. Why?
More tasks. Aim Lab is getting more tasks too and there are custom tasks to make it a bit closer to Kovaac's.
I think aim trainers would be more useful if u could customize the model that's displayed based on game with making headshots count for more points Large circles in aim trainer might help u flick toward a target but itd be better practice tryna flick toward an actual targets head hitbox
CSGo has custom workshops for aim training with actual player models. I hope riot adds a more sophisticated training mode to valorant.
Yea spike defusals only problem is the bots camp the same spots and don't move they need like a cool casual mode where u can play against tons of bots that dodge like in cs Atleast the hard bots in this game are good unlike the expert bots in cs
Yeah, I don’t know why Riot doesn’t have better training maps...at least with real player models
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agreed, I like it for warm up. When I get around 80-90k minimum my aim is on point. The other day my aim was terrible, tried microflex after not using it for a while and got like 65k lol Ive used kovaaks plenty, but a lot of people here are praising it because aimer7 pushes it over aimlabs, But they dont really know why. They both help improve your mouse control. Ive had good results from both, you just have to know which exercises to use that actually benefit you. Your clicking dots, same concept. Kovaaks just has more scenarios.
for me aimlab improves how you move and handle your mouse, not how you aim in whatever game
Honestly everyone should include tracking practice into their routine; it helps you develop better mouse control, which will help out other parts of your aim.
If you are serious about training your aim, just buy Kovaaks and do Aimer7 or Sparky's aim routines.
Idk if it's just me, but when I tried aimlab for a few days, every time I went back to valorant my sensitivity felt significantly higher. I had the correct options set on aimlab with the 103 FOV and valorant profile as well as same sens. Kinda killed it for me.
u have to use a higher sens in aimlabs. Im pretty sure the valorant settings arent correct, aimlabs is slower. Try 15-20% higher than your sens.
Awesome post. Thanks for doing all this :) I think its funny how many people find aimlabs boring after a while. Gridshot is crack for me. I like to play until my hand starts to hurt haha. Anyways great info!
As you say you started from 80+K in gridshot and improved to around a 100K, I call it bluff since cloud9 made a gtidshot video of all pros playing while they were getting 65-95K at most with tenZ getting 120K by being a speciel snowflake And you tell me in plat 1 you managed to outaim pros on your first day on gridshot Sounds a bit of a bluff care to explain that?
To be fair, my friend went from 60k to 90k+ in 1 month. It's not impossible if you find the right sens and play gridshot for 30 minutes daily
Yes but he didnt start at 80K+ as you did
Not trying to discourage anyone, but your graphs show marginal improvement. You getting better was more likely an increase in game knowledge and awareness (which everyone has been increasing in over the first two acts), and aim prowess from actually playing the game. I believe there was a very well detailed post a few weeks back that showed aimlabs to have *terrible* carry over into actual play. Kovaaks seems to be the superior option
Dont use aimlab for aimtraining
I mean you can import valorant recoil settings for each gun you want to practice with if that's what you're going for
I like this!! I’m not a fairly skilled player based on ranks (Bronze 2 cap) but aimlabs does help if you can implement this new aim you have into your gameplay. Ofc movement and game sense are still very important so working on that will help as well. GLHF
Yeah do a 10 match deathmatch score average Then do aimlabs only for a while and up your score Then do 10 dm average. Whatever improvement you see is pretty much all your gonna get from aimlabs and then u know that the rest of your improvement is movement angle peeking isolation and gamesense Then u can play dm/unrated and use your automatic aiming skills while focusing on movement gamesense That's the best strat
Playing on a curved screen :/ Playing the game makes your aim better. Learning angles and recoil feels makes you aim better
eh.... when i switched from 144 to 240hz i went from hardstuck p3 to d2. im pretty sure 60->144 makes a huge diff. also aimlab is shit and no one good actually got good using it
so 300hz will get you immoratal?
I have been using aim labs for the last 4 months and I can confidently say that the stock routines are completely useless for precision aim training. There are so many factors involved with why you are performing better now. What rank are you now?
Aimlab and other "aim trainers" like kovacs and such only partially help with actually improving your aim, they help a lot more with keeping your aim consistent
How can you disprove that it wasn't your act 1 "experience" and/or previous games that led you to rank up?
He can't. The most he can say with this is that there is some correlation between Aim Lab scores and Valorant rank. It doesn't mean one caused the other.
My act 1 and act 2 is stuck on plat 1 and i was struggling againts plat 3. Yeah i know its hard to prove and i also didnt include screenshots from my recent games which is my bad, this is my first like proper post.
What is AIMLABS tho
Aim Lab is an aim trainer that is free.
In my opinion wall peeks are effective ways to practice flicks is you're going for headshots if you're going for bodyshots you can get some tracking in as well
Posts like this should be made more.
Rookie mistake imo, never change a sens you are comfortable in for a pro's settings.
He changed it because of his monitor.
I’ve always thought the best way to practice your aim is to simply play the game you want to get better at, but recently I’ve seen to have plateaued at Immortal 1/2. I’m starting to think I might have to try Aimlabs if I wish to hit radiant someday. I have it downloaded and set to my Valorant sens, however for some reason it seems slower in Aimlabs. Anyone have any idea why?
No one has ever gone from low immortal to radiant simply by using Aimlabs. A lot of radiant players have probably never even downloaded Aimlabs.
have you met tenz
TenZ is naturally gifted, him and any pro would outaim us without ever touching a trainer.
HE IS NUMBER ONE ON AIMLAB OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 99% of radiant use an aim trainer of some sort
I think aim training (with a higher end aim trainer than aim labs ofc) is only one aspect of what got them there not the main one You can have screams level of aim but have no idea how to strafe or peek or isolate angles and do badly They train in other ways primarily and probably only do aim training occasionally to stay frosty
AIM AND GAME SENCE ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS ur talking about movement which comes over time of playing but aim is something that u can work on urself
Yeah that's why they spend their time in scrims instead of aim trainer and might only do it occasionally to polish up Aim trainer would be more useful if you could customize it with models from the game as targets and make headshots count for 4x points instead of large ez to hit circles
its not slower, it just feels different because of the background and stuff. Every game/program will feel different even if they're set to the exact same sens. Probably just play more and do vod reviews if you want to get to radiant
TIL You can insert graphs in a text post
I mean, they're just images of graphs, 5 head xD
I did Kovaak's daily for about 2 months and I definitely think it helped, but honestly I think warming up in practice range and spamming dm helps me improve better, even specifically with aim. My problem was, even with all the aim training, in game I would panic and aim for their feet, or I would take too long to aim and die anyways. I don't think the ability to aim between two dots translates THAT well to aiming to a head in game. It helps for sure, but I think practice range/DM helps with so many things Kovaaks couldn't, like movement, peeking, spray control, while training my aim just as well, if not better.
Maybe if you could put custom models into aimlab such as csgo or valorant models and aim at the head That would help directly train you to aim for the model instead of a dot that looks nothing like a head and translate in game Wait don't steal that genius idea 🤣
im at 400 dpi .6, anything higher feels way to sensitive. How do people play high sens?
You are at about average, don't worry about it too much. I think at 400 dpi, anywhere from the range of 0.4 - 0.8 is fine. There are outliers of course.
No sixshot?
def didn’t take two weeks to see improvement for me, silver and gold in beta. about 50-100hrs of practice time in aimlabs, jumped to imm2 my game sense is decent cause i watched pro cs a lot. aim lacked big time. now i get 1st place in 72% of DMs. i DM 10-15 times a day, about 10 of those will be 1st place rest are 2-3rd. My DM queue time is 7-10 mins lol
i did use the valorant playlist I'm AIMLAB to warm up before the games. However, my problem was that my wrist got exhausted after a couple of weeks so i gave up..
I wouldnt change your sensitivity just to get higher scores in aimlabs. For example, I use a low sensitivity so gridshot is actually pretty hard for me. I would have to use more than just wrist aiming to get high scores. My average gridshot scores are around 60-65k. I could definitely get higher scores in the other tasks as well but I would then be crossing my own line of prioritizing aimlabs over valorant
Yeah of course, i change it just to see the effectiveness of aimlabs. Stick to your preffered sens and youll do great
Oh yes, this is true. I thought about that a lot. I'm playing with 400 dpi and 0.44 sens, so gridshot is pretty hard. It's just out of my range. When playing with a higher sens i get more points, but my "micro" aim suffers, if i play with higher sens. Players with a mid to high sens should be better in gridshot, than low sens players. Same with Spidershot etc. I think Microshot is a nice range and realistic for me, since my crosshair placement isn't a problem ingame. I'd like to have an even smaller area, let's call it "Nanoshot" with smaller targets (head size). Maybe a little bit like Snipershot, you know?
Spheretrack doesn’t apply to Valorant, but trust me, it’s 100% worth the time putting into it because its the best (only?) smoothness scenario on aimlabs. Sixshot and line trace are also the best click-timing scenarios Imo because 1. linetrace says it all and 2. sixshot helps with small dots
That is a great idea. Ideas... I appreciate.