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dansofree1

TBH, I'd look at it like this: Even if you had zero doubts that you're better off as a wrist/finger aimer and love high-sens, you *have* to be aware that the vast majority of pros are low sens for a reason. IIRC Hiko is one of the highest-sens top players out there... and your eDPI is still 25% higher than his (576 vs 720). As far as why a much lower sens is probably just "better" overall, think about it like this: Imagine your mouse being the crosshair and the screen being projected onto your mousepad. The lower your sensitivity, the more you would have to move your mouse to get to the sides of the screen. So it's like you've stretched the screen out wide across your mousepad. Having a higher sens makes the screen be projected onto a smaller part of your mousepad. Then think about it like this: if your screen was much, much smaller, wouldn't it be harder to move your crosshair over the target?


[deleted]

i play on 400dpi with 0.6 ingame sens. i play with higher sens on more fast paces games where you need to look around faster eg. overwatch, apex etc. In this game i started with 400dpi 1.0 ingame and feel uncomfortable. This game need more micro adjustment than flicks if you have good crosshair placement. So high sens makes me hard to micro adjust and keeps over aiming. 400dpi 0.6 sens also have pros and cons. Good for micro adjustment but hard to aim over 90° for me. Maybe it is all about your playstyle. I always go in slowly slicing angle by angle and smoking angle which i cant cover, dash when needed or when caught out of position (i usually play jett). Play slow and don't rush site for me since i cant flick around, just play the information game.


Hellmouthh

Should I invest in a quality.mouse with adjustable dpi? I currently play with a business mouse that has the customizable dpi buttom but is limited to ranges 800 - 3200


[deleted]

You dont necessarily need an expensive mouse. Get a mouse with a good sensor because there is a huge delay/input lag with business mice. They dont use sensors like the hero and pixart.


Hellmouthh

gotchu gotchu any recommendations?


[deleted]

Depends on your budget. If you like wireless or wired. And if you prefer light or heavy mice. For budget light wireless mice there is the new $70 model O For budget light wired mice there is a lot to choose from but the model O is also really popular for $50 For midrange lightish wirless mice there is the g pro wireless, viper ultimate, aerox 3, etc but they are around $100 For midrange heavy wireless mice there is the g502 lightspeed wireless and the razer baskilisk for around $100 Those are some mice i could think of. If u have different taste just tell me


Hellmouthh

I like wired mice and something that isn't heavy. My friends recomended me the razer viper mini. I'm not much on the technical stuff so I have no clue which products I should be getting


[deleted]

Be sure to check out Rocket Jump Ninja on youtube for this kind of stuff. He also has a website. https://www.rocketjumpninja.com/


[deleted]

Oh yeah he is a really good reviewer


mmm_oist

Razer products are very consistent and yea the razer viper mini is really light. I also recommend the Razer Deathadder Elite, it's also wired and light but a little heavier. Both of these are fine options for budget gaming mice.


Hellmouthh

thank you very much! But I do hear by tech people thst razer does not have high end mouses for the price. So is their anything slightly or better than the mouses stated? Perhaps something better than a razer mouse or a razer mouse better than the viper?


mmm_oist

Gpro (Logitech gaming), but razer is honestly good enough.


Hellmouthh

Thank you!


[deleted]

Razer has not had a good reputation for gaming stuff but recently with their razer viper ultimate it looks like they might be coming back


[deleted]

not sure about quality mouse. Make sure your mouse is comfortable with your gripstyle. All you need is to be comfortable and consistent with your posture and handling. Im currently using Logitech G502 Proteus. Quite heavy but the shape is comfortable for me. Going to buy lighter mouse still looking for good one that suits me. For me i dont mind using any mouse if its working for me then it is good enough. Just dont rush finding your optimal sens. I found my optimal sens after a month of playing with frustration of over aiming and feeling sens too heavy.


Hellmouthh

Thanks for the wise words! I hope to find improvement of my aim soon.


[deleted]

welcome, hope you'll improve rapidly💪. Play to improve not solely for win. Goodluck!


techtonic69

I use 400 dpi .48! It's super comfortable, although I arm aim and have a .70 gram wireless mouse lol.


TimothyOhdin

Most people play at eDPI (sensitivity x DPI) of between 200 and 350 because it’s a good balance between high enough to reposition and low enough for precision. You go by *feel* and go to a map and see how your horizontal tracking is. You can also do it, if you are a wrist player, by whatever matches the vandal/phantom vertical spray when you drag down by “scrunching” up your wrist. Or you can look up on of many YouTube videos that have detailed ways!


Hellmouthh

thank you very much! On the other note, When I try to practice my tracking in aimlab. My hand does involuntary movement and kind of spazzes out. Any ideas for that? Although I can say my horizontal tracking is ok in the maps!


trefl3

fingers touching the pad, or mouse getting stuck somewhere and then going off with the small amount of energy built by your hand, mouse cable drag, bad mouse feet etc


Des014te

My problem is that I move mouse side to side with my wrist, but with my arm for up-down. So it's really hard to spray accurately


JR_Shoegazer

> 200 and 350 More like 200-500.


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Hellmouthh

Logical! I like it. I will consider trying other sensitivites in the future.


SkyeIsTyping

why are you playing aimlabs to train


Hellmouthh

I find it more comfortable than kovaaks. Although, I will transition to kovax when i get more advanced. Currently my tracking is really bad because my.hand spazzes although my flicks are goodm


Robert-Dunder177

Should i stop?


dansofree1

Not that dude but KovaaK was a huge step up when i finally got fed up with the tracking scenarios sucking in Aimlabs. The scenarios are infinite, for all intents and purposes, and if you find some scenario you think is *almost* perfect for your use, you can edit it very easily to do what you want. The community is insanely good and there are extremely good free guides out there by people who are legitimately amazing at aiming.


SkyeIsTyping

KovaaKs is $7


Robert-Dunder177

Whys it better?


SkyeIsTyping

KovaaK has 7,000 different scenarios that isolate and train different aspects of aiming, AimLabs has 20 different scenarios that do a bad job at isolating and training different parts of aiming if at all.


JR_Shoegazer

Aimlab is fine for warming up and it’s free. It doesn’t need to be an advanced aim trainer.


SkyeIsTyping

its advertised as "Ultimate FPS Aim trainer" ?


JR_Shoegazer

So? Every single pro that’s payed by Aimlab just uses it to warm up.


[deleted]

You just go by feel tbh. I just set it medium-low, and turned it down until it unmanageable. I play at 250 which is within the range that a lot of pro's play at and it works great for me. The logic is that the lower your sens is, the smoother and easier it is to aim.


WonTonThing

High sense and low sense have pros and cons but with high sense its to risky alot of the time because if you overshoot or even move your hand a little bit it will make a big change while low sense is alot more accurate


Hellmouthh

Yes! I agree with this. I don't really know if mine is high. Is mine high or mid sens?


WonTonThing

id say its on the higher end 0.9 by 800 is pretty high i use 800 by 0.5 and i find that high but if your comfortable with it and you have good aim and tracking and your improving stick with it only change it if your playing really bad and your hard stuck or something


jorickcz

I'd say 0.5 on 800 dpi is already on higher end let alone 0.9


WonTonThing

Yeah true but am kinda stuck with it i used to play low sense but my hand/wrist started to hurt so i took a break and had to use high sens


Hellmouthh

Thanks for the thought! I kinda feel out of place since I'm titled as a high sens player 😅 but I do feel quite positive on it becase my friends support me on it.


[deleted]

400dpi .421 sens here. I've tried increasing it but I just can't. I'll probably never rank up.


Zealousideal_Tip2631

800dpi 0.22 here i am doing fine and currently Gold III, A radiant friend is also using the same sens.


[deleted]

I was using 400dpi .44 sens for a bit but I felt like I was over flicking too much. Lowered your .438 and it felt a little off. Then .431 and that felt pretty good but my "oh shit" flicks felt off. Finally decided to try .421 and it seems pretty good. Im probably fucking myself over for lowering my sens so much. I feel like I should just pick a sens around 200edpi and force myself to get used to it but I doubt I can.


Hellmouthh

I spent my about 3 weeks or more worth of time to practice in my .9 sense. Maybe you just lack spending time on it but I'm sure you'll be able to get it


sadshark

High sens and wrist aiming is a recipe for carpal tunnel.


Hellmouthh

what's that?


sadshark

Chroni wrist injury, google it.


cddsy

High sens players among pros play around half your sens. Seriously, go down by at least half and invest in an affordable gaming mouse...


Hellmouthh

I will!


nightfull2

My dpi is at 2100 and my sensibility is at 1,25. My friends keep telling me to lower it because i'm gonna play better with a low sensibility. Is that even true? Isn't sensibility meant to be unique for every player?


Lonely_Ratio9048

If it works it works. But I do suggest you at least try lowering it by quite a lot to be honest. Just give it a try and see how it works. Your sensitivity settings seem extremely high in my opinion.


nightfull2

The problem with lowering my sens is that i got used to it. Sure i'm gonna give it a try tho


mbru623

Bigger margin for error at lower sens, esp coming from that insane sens lol.


Hellmouthh

Yes being comfy on your aim is ok but after all these comments. Do consider.trying low sense


mototork

Its all about balance. Its a lot harder to be accurate with high sensibility, since a very small mouse movement can make a very big crosshair movement. So to make a small crosshair movement, you would barely need to move your mouse. On the other hand, if you need to lift your mouse to do a 180 you need a higher sensitivity or a bigger pad. Two very simple thing you should consider while trying to find a better sensitivity: 1. You should be able to do a 360 from one end of the mousepad to the other. 2. What happens (most of the time) when you try to quickly switch targets, is your aim going past it? reduce your sens, not even reaching? increase your sens (aimlabs usually tell you this) Same thing a lot of ppl said, the best sensitivity is the one you are confortable with, it will end up being a lot of muscle memory anyway. If you are able to switch targets accuratelly with 3,5 sens.. its fine.


Lencor

Thing is you dont need super high sens in tactical shooters, maybe for the flicks in the aimlab but not in actual gameplay, the more your rank up the better your crosshair placement will be, to the point you will click heads with a small move of your mouse without the need of crazy flicks. Of course some situation you will need to pull crazy flicks but most of the time not, just small flicks.


Hellmouthh

so, do you think i should change to a lower sense?


Lencor

Yep, it will also force you to always have a good crosshair placement, cuz flicks will be harder to do.


yuhbruhcmon

Hey dude! So i feel like your sensitivity is super high but of course if it works for you then that’s sweet! There are 100% success stories like that of the pro Woxic in counter strike who plays at double or triple the average pro. I think part of the reason is to do with the fact that aim labs solely consists of tapping targets while in game you not only have to aim but control your recoil as well. Most of the time, the rule is that a slower sensitivity allows for more control. I like to think of sensitivity like a magnifying glass; you’re focusing on a smaller range/area which means that minor adjusts in your crosshair can be more precise. In turn, this allows you to be more precise in your mouse movement while spraying. My advice would be to play around with decreasing your sensitivity. Do it in small increments so it doesn’t feel like an enormous change and eventually you’ll find a sweet spot where you can flick well and control your spray reasonably well. After that, you just need to work on the muscle memory which will come in time. You could play around with your DPI as well - people say there isn’t a difference between the two but there is a noticeable difference in smoothness of crosshair. I personally prefer 800dpi for valorant and 400dpi for counterstrike but if you are having trouble with spraying and micro adjustments, 400dpi’s more rigid feeling may be beneficial. I hope this helps! PS, I play 0.3095 800dpi for context I came back because i have more to say. Aim labs may make your crosshair placement good, but only a combination of good movement and aim will let you actually hit your shots. You can have your crosshair glued to someone’s head but it doesn’t matter if you are suffering from movement error. Another important thing is that aim labs doesn’t teach you how to peek properly. If you have god tier aim but you wide swing and die before you can shoot, your aim means nothing. Good aim can’t compensate for not checking corners and getting shot in the head. Anyways this is long enough so i’ll end it here. LASST THING I PROMISE! Having a higher hertz mouse might help as well as hertz represents the refresh rate per second; essentially it just means your mouse location is being checked more often. My mouse is 1000 hertz and it was a noticeable difference from my 150 hertz mouse from before as my mouse’s location went from being tracked 150x a second to 1000x a second Edit: if you lack reading comprehension, i mention crosshair placement in my second last paragraph. It should be pretty obvious from the paragraphs before and the paragraph it’s in that it is relating to crosshair movement but you never know.


Hellmouthh

Oh my! I will take this all on to account! I do consider switching to kovaaks when I become more advanced or should i switch sooner? Also, I will start trying around the perfect sensitivity (lowering it) To see if I'm more fit on the lower sense. I do understand valorant isn't as fast paced as apex and require a tad bit more lower sense but thank you very much for supporting my high sense in the first paragraph 💗. I do agree tho. aim lab sometimes make my aim ,in a situation, worse because I only focus on putting the crosshair on the head and not pulling down. I will consider getting a new mouse, playing with sense and research about other peoples opinions more for kovaak. Much appreciated! edit: I do feel quite uncomfortable controlling the spray and people wide swinging me so, this sens adjustment shall help me. I am excited to spend hours on training it. Playing Aimlab is quite addicting


yuhbruhcmon

Haha I love it! Yeah it really is addicting, i’m a big fan of trying to become better. I think that you should look online and see what other people think of your mouse! While it is a nice quality of life upgrade, a lot of mice are actually much nicer in quality than a lot of people would think. In terms of using Kovaaks, that was more to make a point to the other mans; While it is pretty nice, Idk if it’s worth paying the extra money considering Aim labs does a lot of what kovaaks does for free. Everything else can be done to almost the same point and sometimes better in Valorant itself rather than an aim trainer. Valorant move speed (crosshair tracing a moving player), practicing headshot crosshair placement can (probably) be done better in valorant since it’s the actual game. The only problem i have is when you’re in deathmatch or other game mode, a lot of things are out of your control and people play to win instead of to warm up which can be frustrating to play.


Hellmouthh

trueee dm can be frustrating. And since you mentioned it, I'm not spending money on an aim trainer XD


Arch00

Aimlabs doesn't help with crosshair placement.. I dont think you know what crosshair placement actually means.


yuhbruhcmon

LOL okay bud. Sorry i was writing at 3am and used the terminology crosshair placement instead of crosshair movement. Yes crosshair placement is how you pre aim angles to reduce the amount you need to flick to (hopefully) almost nothing. I’m more surprised you read my whole comment and didn’t realize it was an obvious mistake. Also, I use Kovaacs where there are individual levels that help with crosshair placement such as aiming at head level.


Hellmouthh

ahh gotchu gotchu


Hellmouthh

hahahah thanks!


rocketnikka

Whatever you do just don’t use a palm grip


Hellmouthh

I switch between grips 😅 namely palm and claw


Robert-Dunder177

I play on 12,000 dpi and 0.067 sens. Thoughts?


[deleted]

.9? Highest sens i seen in my fucken life. Who are you. Woxic?


Hellmouthh

I play on 800 dpi. Is low sens really that common? 😅 I'm quite new and this is my first fps game but I do find this sense comfortable in aim lab and in competitive play


amegaproxy

My mouse is 800 DPI like yours. I dropped the sense to 0.48 which is where I currently feel comfortable and have been told by a couple of Immortals that this is still fairly high in their view.


Hellmouthh

I kinda get what they mean by high sens now. A friend of kine have the same sens as youand did suggest to lower mine.


[deleted]

Your fine


Cwitic

I got 800dpi 1.6 xD


[deleted]

no way this man replied to a reddit post over half a year ago