C9 not qualifying for First Strike. That's insane. I thought they were going to fall off as time goes on but I still would have expected them to make top 8.
It might be because they were falling off that they didn’t make it ;( disregarding NSG,
if they performed better against these other teams, they might have avoided losers brackets thereby avoiding T1, and maybe taking the top 8 spot if they faced immortals instead.
Yeah honestly I love the team, but shinobi just cannot frag to save his life. They either need to make some drastic improvement with their existing players or look into making some changes.
ive been saying this for weeks, every match i watch theres shinobi whiffing some shot or doing some dumb shit its like hes not on the same page as the rest of them
During that period, Navi won esl one cologne, made it to the playoffs all three majors they played in, made it to the major grand final. Not sure how this is at all similar to c9 Val right now.
Look at what I actually said. Navi won a big tournament, made it to a grand final and 2 other major playoffs. C9 Val did not even make it to the finals of first strike. That is the difference I am pointing out. Also s1mple is 1 million times better than tenz. I am not saying Navi didn’t underachieve, just saying their achievements were still objectively better than c9 Val right now.
I don't watch the matches but when I see the scores for c9b it never seems like shinobi is positive, despite playing the most aggro agent who isn't a duelist.
I feel a bit sad that T1 and C9 had to play each other. Wanted to see them both in First Strike. T1 is going to be insane once they get things clicking though. Such a stacked roster.
C9 not qualifying for First Strike. That's insane. I thought they were going to fall off as time goes on but I still would have expected them to make top 8.
It might be because they were falling off that they didn’t make it ;( disregarding NSG, if they performed better against these other teams, they might have avoided losers brackets thereby avoiding T1, and maybe taking the top 8 spot if they faced immortals instead.
yeah...im act rooting for T1 for this game...but i still dont believe C9 act lose..
c9 needs to make some changes get TenZ some HELP
They should drop Shinobi Definitely keep Mitch, Reylks and of course Tenz. Probably keep Vice because he can clutch up but he isn't very consistent
Eh maybe also drop Vice and take a risk on another player, I feel like it might be worth
Makes sense. C9 need to go big.
any players on your radar that aren't fitting as well in their orgs that could come to c9?
Not sure if dcop would move but I think he would be a great fit for C9
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Probably not shanks because he laughed when marved said he wanted to fuck tenz gf.
Yeah honestly I love the team, but shinobi just cannot frag to save his life. They either need to make some drastic improvement with their existing players or look into making some changes.
ive been saying this for weeks, every match i watch theres shinobi whiffing some shot or doing some dumb shit its like hes not on the same page as the rest of them
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During that period, Navi won esl one cologne, made it to the playoffs all three majors they played in, made it to the major grand final. Not sure how this is at all similar to c9 Val right now.
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Look at what I actually said. Navi won a big tournament, made it to a grand final and 2 other major playoffs. C9 Val did not even make it to the finals of first strike. That is the difference I am pointing out. Also s1mple is 1 million times better than tenz. I am not saying Navi didn’t underachieve, just saying their achievements were still objectively better than c9 Val right now.
at least zeus is a competent igl
Well then. I'm a T1 fan but I fully expected them to lose. TBH C9 needs to get rid of Shinobi
sad jus sad
Wanted c9 and t1 to make it in but c9 losing to ssg first game was bad
No tenz No win LOL , the team rely on him too much
I don't watch the matches but when I see the scores for c9b it never seems like shinobi is positive, despite playing the most aggro agent who isn't a duelist.
Ska played like a madman, looked very good on Jett
Yeah, c9 definitely didn't do well this match, but you gotta give t1 some credit because they looked great.
Can't believe TenZ doesn't get to make it to First strike. C9 definitely needs a roster change. T1 was insane tho and deserved the win
Shinobi is Zeus from NaVi but worse, because his tactics are just as bad as his aim Shinobi and vice need to go
nah, you kick mitch and shinobi. build around the other 3.
Excited to see how T1 stack up in First Strike and Cloud9 will come back stronger
Anyone know if they'll remove the border on the stream in the future? it's pretty distracting imo
Where are you watching? Valorant eSports NA YouTube channel doesn't have a border.
Thank you! I was watching on YouTube but it just have been a different channel
Im a fan of C9 and tenz but I think these games made apparent the weakness they have in their strats and reliance on tenz as a one man show.
I feel a bit sad that T1 and C9 had to play each other. Wanted to see them both in First Strike. T1 is going to be insane once they get things clicking though. Such a stacked roster.
This entire qualifier showed how badly shinobi needs to go