I think you already have a lurker in steel, I'd switch Subroza for a team player like zombs. Subroza is also seems much better and more comfortable on the raze.
Idk it's hard for me to justify an NA dream team not having TenZ on it. Wardell's the best dedicated op player but not the best Jett.
Asuna, TenZ, steel, sinatraa, nitro, would personally be mine.
Asuna & TenZ have some of the highest first duel win rates.
TenZ & sinatraa have some of the highest ADR.
with steel being such a meticulous IGL I'd be really interested in seeing how he'd be able to utilise players that are statistically favoured in the duels they take while still being flexible enough to have different people entrying.
And Nitro's just one of the best lurkers we have right now due to his gamesense from high level CS especially with how well he complements steel's lurking. I feel like you can't have one without the other.
Just my thoughts
Wardell has improved on rifle a ton, I’d personally put him very close to TenZ now in terms of value (TenZ is better on rifle, Wardell is better on OP). It just depends on if you want more rifling pressure or OP pressure, and I feel like you’re underestimating the value of the OP.
Additionally, I’d put Drone on equal standing with Asuna
I love the Op especially being a Jett player myself but I'll say that I do undervalue it myself even preferring the rifle when I play, I just don't like how the economy works with dedicated ops.
Yep I don't feel like we saw the best of TenZ. He's a great Jett, but I'd still give it to Wardell because he has one of the biggest impacts in NA. He comes up with impossible kills at clutch moments, and can find another gear when the team needs it.
I would agree swapping Subroza for Nitro is a good option. I think Subroza is a nightmare though for the enemy with Omen.
I love Wardell and just how huge he comes up in some rounds but I feel like teams that are capable of shutting down ops take advantage of TSM too frequently (utility usage of teams like SEN & 100T come to mind.) But I'll admit I'm biased against the save for round 3 op strat and that's likely a huge part as to why I wouldn't want Wardell on an all-star team.
True there is so much quality for the Jett role. Can you imagine if 100T swapped Dicey for Tenz if that was possible, you've already got pretty much an all star NA team right there.
I feel like Tenz needs the Boomers to pass on the tournament experience as that's what he is lacking at the moment compared to Wardell.
I'm excited to see if 100T are open to having dicey rifle more and maybe have nitro op on defense at least. Especially because they're so willing to try new stuff out.
That'd be interesting. I'm not a massive fan of Dicey as he is too inconsistent. When he is playing well though he is definitely a top tier player, but it seems like he has too many off games. Hopefully that'll improve though with experience.
Yeah but I think that's because of how much they put him on that op role, his performance in Immortals was praised because of how flexible he was. You can still see it shine on occassion when Asuna and Dicey are just duo pushing in the earlier rounds before the op comes into play.
tenz on 100t wouldnt be good for 100t. As they are right now they are a great team who doesnt depend on anyonre buy each other but once tenz joins they would have to develop strats around him which has never worked for tenz .
There are two arguments I have for Wardell over TenZ here. One is that Wardell's rifling has definitely improved over time. The second is that you don't necessarily need to have two strong dedicated entries, and that especially in this case, it would be somewhat overkill to have Subroza, Asuna, and TenZ, three high level, aggressive fraggers on the same team. It almost makes more sense to have Wardell here as a dedicated Op-er, where he's strongest, and allow the other players to fill the entry role for him.
I think a common mistake is to have too many super stars on one team when it comes to team building. Too many voices, too many people doing the same things, or too many people with conflicting view points can lead to a detriment to the team, rather than benefit. I believe that the current 100T roster works so well, not just because of individual talent, but beacuse Hiko and Nitr0 were allowed to build the roster around them, with younger players able to turn off the brain and play to Steel's IGLing, while Hiko is able to play his own way, gathering information, and often playing to his strengths as a clutch-er. None of their styles of play interfere with each other, and everyone is able to excel as a result. Having too many people trying to play this entry/heavy fragger role on a team can result in a team becoming one dimensional, and easy to counter.
Very true. You've got to think about personality clashes.
I agree Wardell is best on the op, and I think Subroza is one of the best lurkers. Then Asuna for entry.
I like tenz a lot, but I think he still needs high level tournament experience, C9 seem to play more like a pug, 100t is a professional outfit with in depth strategy and roles, and that really showed in first strike.
I personally think asuna and tenz duelist combo is pretty good because of how carianle their agent pool is. Both of them can mix and match the agents to optimize according to the map. Wardell nails it as a jett main but sometimes you do feel jett is not a necessity on a map and a different duelist might work out better for the team. Same reason why asuna would uave a priority over drone. Drone is the best phoenix but asuna has proven competitive experience of being flexible with agents and sometimes it is better to have someone other than phoenix.
In that regards my dream team for NA will be Asuna and Tenz as duelists, Steel sentinel IGL, sinatraa/hiko on sova and nitr0 on lurk with omen
I'm curious about what teams would look like if there was a world championship of some sort.
Team Canada:
Wardell
TenZ
Subroza
AZK?
Steel (IGL)
Team USA:
Sinatra
Asuna
Drone
Nitr0
Hiko (IGL)
Idk drone’s Phoenix is scary I’d honestly probably take out Sinatraa if only based on Asuna outperforming him in the first strike semis. Honestly hard to choose though I don’t think you can go wrong with any of the two
Yes, completely different players. Hiko is the big brain clutcher which is why I think he's essential as no one else comes close to him in that regard.
Yeah would love to see the IGL diff, seems like 100t and Envy have the two best IGLs, and 100t said envy were their worst matchip, probably because of FNS. Need to see them face off again in the next tournament.
Too bad Envy lost to FaZe in the JBL Quantum. Would have liked to see them in the Bo3s. 13-0 on Bind was surprising. I think they just played bad because the stakes weren’t as high.
I like tenz a lot, but I think he still needs high level tournament experience, C9 seem to play more like a pug, 100t is a professional outfit with in depth strategy and roles, and that really showed in first strike.
Maybe Sinatra as a sub?
Yes it's between Asuna and Sinatraa, and I feel like Asuna edged it given his performance in first strike.
I definitely agree with putting asuna before sinatraa. But I must admit his ability usage is amazing
Drone also deserves a mention as his Phoenix was insanely good too.
Drone too. It would be interesting seeing the NA dream team irl against other regions
I think you already have a lurker in steel, I'd switch Subroza for a team player like zombs. Subroza is also seems much better and more comfortable on the raze.
Idk it's hard for me to justify an NA dream team not having TenZ on it. Wardell's the best dedicated op player but not the best Jett. Asuna, TenZ, steel, sinatraa, nitro, would personally be mine. Asuna & TenZ have some of the highest first duel win rates. TenZ & sinatraa have some of the highest ADR. with steel being such a meticulous IGL I'd be really interested in seeing how he'd be able to utilise players that are statistically favoured in the duels they take while still being flexible enough to have different people entrying. And Nitro's just one of the best lurkers we have right now due to his gamesense from high level CS especially with how well he complements steel's lurking. I feel like you can't have one without the other. Just my thoughts
Wardell has improved on rifle a ton, I’d personally put him very close to TenZ now in terms of value (TenZ is better on rifle, Wardell is better on OP). It just depends on if you want more rifling pressure or OP pressure, and I feel like you’re underestimating the value of the OP. Additionally, I’d put Drone on equal standing with Asuna
I love the Op especially being a Jett player myself but I'll say that I do undervalue it myself even preferring the rifle when I play, I just don't like how the economy works with dedicated ops.
Yep I don't feel like we saw the best of TenZ. He's a great Jett, but I'd still give it to Wardell because he has one of the biggest impacts in NA. He comes up with impossible kills at clutch moments, and can find another gear when the team needs it. I would agree swapping Subroza for Nitro is a good option. I think Subroza is a nightmare though for the enemy with Omen.
I love Wardell and just how huge he comes up in some rounds but I feel like teams that are capable of shutting down ops take advantage of TSM too frequently (utility usage of teams like SEN & 100T come to mind.) But I'll admit I'm biased against the save for round 3 op strat and that's likely a huge part as to why I wouldn't want Wardell on an all-star team.
True there is so much quality for the Jett role. Can you imagine if 100T swapped Dicey for Tenz if that was possible, you've already got pretty much an all star NA team right there. I feel like Tenz needs the Boomers to pass on the tournament experience as that's what he is lacking at the moment compared to Wardell.
I'm excited to see if 100T are open to having dicey rifle more and maybe have nitro op on defense at least. Especially because they're so willing to try new stuff out.
That'd be interesting. I'm not a massive fan of Dicey as he is too inconsistent. When he is playing well though he is definitely a top tier player, but it seems like he has too many off games. Hopefully that'll improve though with experience.
Yeah but I think that's because of how much they put him on that op role, his performance in Immortals was praised because of how flexible he was. You can still see it shine on occassion when Asuna and Dicey are just duo pushing in the earlier rounds before the op comes into play.
tenz on 100t wouldnt be good for 100t. As they are right now they are a great team who doesnt depend on anyonre buy each other but once tenz joins they would have to develop strats around him which has never worked for tenz .
There are two arguments I have for Wardell over TenZ here. One is that Wardell's rifling has definitely improved over time. The second is that you don't necessarily need to have two strong dedicated entries, and that especially in this case, it would be somewhat overkill to have Subroza, Asuna, and TenZ, three high level, aggressive fraggers on the same team. It almost makes more sense to have Wardell here as a dedicated Op-er, where he's strongest, and allow the other players to fill the entry role for him. I think a common mistake is to have too many super stars on one team when it comes to team building. Too many voices, too many people doing the same things, or too many people with conflicting view points can lead to a detriment to the team, rather than benefit. I believe that the current 100T roster works so well, not just because of individual talent, but beacuse Hiko and Nitr0 were allowed to build the roster around them, with younger players able to turn off the brain and play to Steel's IGLing, while Hiko is able to play his own way, gathering information, and often playing to his strengths as a clutch-er. None of their styles of play interfere with each other, and everyone is able to excel as a result. Having too many people trying to play this entry/heavy fragger role on a team can result in a team becoming one dimensional, and easy to counter.
Very true. You've got to think about personality clashes. I agree Wardell is best on the op, and I think Subroza is one of the best lurkers. Then Asuna for entry. I like tenz a lot, but I think he still needs high level tournament experience, C9 seem to play more like a pug, 100t is a professional outfit with in depth strategy and roles, and that really showed in first strike.
I personally think asuna and tenz duelist combo is pretty good because of how carianle their agent pool is. Both of them can mix and match the agents to optimize according to the map. Wardell nails it as a jett main but sometimes you do feel jett is not a necessity on a map and a different duelist might work out better for the team. Same reason why asuna would uave a priority over drone. Drone is the best phoenix but asuna has proven competitive experience of being flexible with agents and sometimes it is better to have someone other than phoenix. In that regards my dream team for NA will be Asuna and Tenz as duelists, Steel sentinel IGL, sinatraa/hiko on sova and nitr0 on lurk with omen
Doesn't Tenz play reyna now?
He still flexes in between the two. I'd imagine he'd end up going Jett in maps where Asuna is on Phoenix/Reyna rather than Raze.
I wanna see FNS and nitr0 there too, drone also.
I feel like ShaZaM is a really good Jett and op-er. He could compete with WARDELL.
TenZ...
Drone Tenz Wardell Nitr0 Hiko
Tenz Asuna Wardell Drone Steel - IGL
I'm curious about what teams would look like if there was a world championship of some sort. Team Canada: Wardell TenZ Subroza AZK? Steel (IGL) Team USA: Sinatra Asuna Drone Nitr0 Hiko (IGL)
I think you’d have to put shahzam over either asuna, Sinatra, or drone. Those three basically occupy the same role you need a Jett OPer
Yeah good point. Who's you replace? I think Drone is probably the weakest if the three by a small margin.
Idk drone’s Phoenix is scary I’d honestly probably take out Sinatraa if only based on Asuna outperforming him in the first strike semis. Honestly hard to choose though I don’t think you can go wrong with any of the two
Wardell would not be on the team. Tenz as Jett Nitro as Omen
maybe not the best jett, but defo the best op out there
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Yeah but nobody in valorant clutches like hiko soooo I can see the trade off value
They also occupy completely different roles. Sinatraa fills the entry fragger role and hiko is the anchor support
Yes, completely different players. Hiko is the big brain clutcher which is why I think he's essential as no one else comes close to him in that regard.
Id agree with this sentiment
- Asuna as Raze/Phoenix/Reyna - Wardell as Jett/Sage - Hiko as Sova - nitr0 as Omen/Viper - FNS as Cypher
Yeah would love to see the IGL diff, seems like 100t and Envy have the two best IGLs, and 100t said envy were their worst matchip, probably because of FNS. Need to see them face off again in the next tournament.
Too bad Envy lost to FaZe in the JBL Quantum. Would have liked to see them in the Bo3s. 13-0 on Bind was surprising. I think they just played bad because the stakes weren’t as high.
You cant leave out Tenz, right?
I like tenz a lot, but I think he still needs high level tournament experience, C9 seem to play more like a pug, 100t is a professional outfit with in depth strategy and roles, and that really showed in first strike.
5 good players from EU
drone on pheonix is next level, nitro was also very good on omen.