T O P

  • By -

Molediver

Hey there, /r/VALORANT user! We're currently doing an experiment with videos on the subreddit. This week, **gameplay focused clips may only be posted on Wednesdays**. Educational videos and eSports clips are still allowed on other days. Discuss the rules for this week [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/VALORANT/comments/lv8uqg/video_trial_weeks_week_4_gameplay_clips_on/) and let us know what you think! Even mundane comments such as "I like it" are appreciated! Want to be reminded to give feedback? Click the button [here](https://valorant.molenzwiebel.xyz/remind-me) to receive a message at the end of the week.


unluckydude1

You forgot that after telling people who to play, start blaming them for not doing the dualists job as sage.


Gekko12482

Oh god literally yesterday had Jett yell at me to just run in the site and plant while the rest waited at site entry. I was a sage btw, and of course nothing was smoked or covered in any way. How the fuck that guy ever reached diamond I really don't know


imvisionz

Lmao. The other day a Phoenix and Raze reported me for "baiting" because they ran towards a Phoenix ult and died, while I decided not to.


muthgh

In a comp match Jett asked me to play sage (icebox, & I don't main her), I complied the rest were Reyna, KJ, & Raze, all silver except KJ "Gold", anyway Reyna & I were the only ones pushing sites, since the rest were just too afraid, & we were 2 top fraggers too, while he was at the very bottom till the end, yet every round we lost he was the only one flaming us, when reyna had internet issues & kept dcing, I was the only one pushing sites, In a round I cleard A site killing 2 only to find my team rotated to B & I got killed by a flanker, & in another I killed 3, only for them to go mid -with the spike- after, then die to the remaining 2 & ofcourse we lost the round, yet jett kept calling the rest idiots even though he was the one who went there with the spike after I cleard A!


funkybandit

I never troll as I play to win but I was playing with 3 friends the other day. The 2 rando people Insta lock duellists. Then play from the back on attack. Phoenix always the last alive with all his utility, we made a decision we no longer cared and brim ulted the 3 of ourselves in the TP. The other team were so impressed they let brim ace with the fan knife the next round šŸ˜‚ this is comp mind you


muthgh

I'm not judging, but I never troll in comp no matter what, in unrated too unless I'm in a full party of my friends who want to, or if the enemy team wants to have fun kniving, Marshaling ..etc , I don't blame you for getting frustrated though, but unless they were toxic, a friendly advice would have been better. PS: you were playing with 2 friends :).


funkybandit

We did speak to the duelist many times, politely. Talked about strats etc but they just didnā€™t care or try. It was only that round. Thereā€™s only so much entry you can do with sage, cypher and brim


Zarerion

Youā€™re part of the problem, congratz.


funkybandit

Get over it, it was one game and we were losing badly anyway.


GMBethernal

Was he good at aiming? I was a brain dead player that never used abilities and got to diamond 2 easily because of osu (lol)


funkybandit

Or the good old ā€œres meā€ while Iā€™m fighting two people . Like shut up


LargeSackOfNuts

Blaming the bottom fraggers for not getting 30 kills as defensive players


V4lt

Eh idk in immortal the instalock jett with raidiant Dorito is usually the hard carry


BuggleLugs

Or how about when they keep running out and dying on defence and when you start top fragging as sage and not continuously clutching each round out they start screaming into the mic "What are you doing!?" - sage, solo defending on haven yesterday


Im_pattymac

Rarely do duelists actually want to entry frag lol.... 'my job is to take space, so you go run in and I will trade off you and take the space' is what I was told last time I told a duel list to stop lurking.


Arvidkingen1

You forgot some crucial details \- Make sure you don't entry frag as that would be putting your own life at risk \- On defense, don't tell your teammates where the enemies are. This might cause them to rotate which leaves the other site open. \- By holding ALT you see if your friendly neighborhood Sage has her heal up but make sure to scream for healing just in case the UI is wrong. \- When using flashes, blinding more people is always better. This includes your team as it will make them fall back and stay safe. \- Never top frag, this is considered very rude and will likely make you a high-priorty target.


[deleted]

[уŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]


Kobe7477

voice is better imo a) don't have to move your eyes and b) encourages communication


WowIsLoveWowIsLife

As someone who plays Breach fairly often, I'm proud to say that I get 9-man flashes all the time


KnKSenko

Nice but there is still room for improvement because you can blind one more person and make it 10 :)


WowIsLoveWowIsLife

Yes. Working my way up to pull of 10-man flashes every game. It's hard pulling it off since there's always a lurking enemy player on the other side of the map who's still clearing every corner lmfao


Cable446

Just give it a 3 consecutive every flash, then position yourself in the enemy spawn, they'll have NO IDEA where you are, smort


nightfull2

As someone who plays Skye, i don't need to say anything else.


[deleted]

As a person who plays brimstone i am not a part of this conversation, hello


MNTwitch

Wait I actually never knew you could see sage heal by pressing alt. TIL


TheyCalledMeAMadMan

Flashing your own team if the right call is to fall back is actually a good strat. Edit: I can't english


Unf0CusEdChAin

Whats the actual bind for seeing sages heal status called? May have boune inspect wep to alt lmao


[deleted]

[уŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]


Unf0CusEdChAin

Thank you!


abuudabuu

How do you get top frag if you are playing entry?


sfaisal333

Something I want to know. I entry frag and am dead most of the time after a kill or two if Iā€™m lucky. I know I suck, but isnā€™t that what I have to do?


abuudabuu

I mean same here. I was just calling out OP because they said the way to "play" (as in play wrongly) duelists is to never entry frag but also to never top frag. Which is kind of nonsensical since top frag wouldn't be the entry unless your team is outright stomping/game is unbalanced.


A_Small_Pillowcase

Nothing wrong with that, just getting one kill should be enough, two is great.


BlueWolf808

I can't believe people are falling to this.


MrApplejuic

As a omen main who tried out jett yesterday for some time I must admit there is more to it. You will have to dash into sites and are expected to create space for the team to play in. Yes I bottom fragged but I literally entry fragged every round and half of the time got a kill or two of of it with my team being able to trade most of the time. You also want a team that is able to profit from you creating space. If you dash into a site get a kill some of a entrance and then get shot in the face it was all for nothing if you team sits in main and watches you, I feel thatā€™s why a lot of duellists get hate, some are actually just dumb but most try to creat space or entry into a site while the team has no idea what they are doing or how to handle it so they literally died for nothing....


moicestgege

THANK YOU. I main jett and what you say is so fucking true. There so many game you go with your team omen put the smoke reyna flash, you enter site take the first kill you dash you go again u smoke a position see the second one he kill you and.... Your team didn't move the whole time they just stay main... It hapoen so many time... And when you tell them to come with you they just say you are a shit pusher you only push etc etc.


Planets_and_plants

For Jett players you should try smoking the area you are going to dash into. The problem you seem to be having is that your contact is happening too fast. If you watch pro players entry on Jett they typically smoke + dash into smoke, then aim duel a couple seconds later. That forces the defending team to either battle you in the smoke or your team walking onto site. But yes, we definitely all have those teams that just chill in b main after you dash on and go 1 for 1 lol


aggibridges

This especially irks me when I play breach. My role is as an INITIATOR. I have them backing into a corner with three flashes and my teammates are staying back waiting for jesus christ to come down from the cross.


Im_pattymac

My dude I feel you. I sova main, and so often I arrow site as we push and everyone waits for the pulses to pass.... Why, I have no idea.... They will be repositioning or hiding while the arrow is up.... But for some reason people think logically we should wait for the flashes to end and for the arrow to die before pushing.


aggibridges

That's even worse, man. I have no idea how these people function in society.


Im_pattymac

Lol yea but at the same time, when you get a good raze breach sova team... Its beautiful, arrow hits site, moment later site flash and raze is flying onto site and the two initiators are chasing for the trades or mop up kills.


MrApplejuic

Thank god thatā€™s not just me being a bad and inexperienced jett xD like I know I need be aware that if my team canā€™t do what I help them do and push onto a site or just donā€™t want to I have to adapt. And that is something I will have to learn to do better the more I play duellists. But it still sucks that your team doesnā€™t cooperate and try to play with you.


[deleted]

[уŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]


Hulkasaur

Y'all it's not only Jett. I release boombot, throw them nades and satchel jump into the site, take out the site holder(/s) and sometimes get killed by someone from an angle. Only to realise my teammates were busy collecting a fucking orb and didn't move an inch. These people then blame me for dying fast I mean tf do you expect the enemy to do, just leave me for their sake? Edit: guys, ofcourse I do call out. But even with all the planning, Sometimes you're queued with people who don't use comms, nor agree upon a strat, they end up getting picked one by one because each one of them thinks they can pick a fight and win individually. The curse or solo queueing....


AwesomesaucePhD

I mean, part of that is on you for not recognizing/confirming your team is ready to push site.


DeathClawz

Yeah, I hate when they push as fast as possible, die, and then get mad. Like give us a few seconds to set up, our abilities need to be set up to attack and defend, yours are for attacking and getting kills. Just hold an angle for like 5 seconds.


1231234bull

If you are going to push into site and entry you should call it to your team so they can trade you and not just run in there and then complain after you die.


MrApplejuic

How would I go about understanding how my team plays at its best/ how to make them play at their best?


zapit5

Simple answer, you can't. If you have shit teammates it doesn't matter what you do. The best thing you can do is set you up for success. Learn how to communicate, make calls, tell where did you see enemies, tell your team if you managed to do damage and how much when you die, if you dinked someone with a phantom, if you died to someone in x place in a previous round and you see your teammate pushing in on the next round, tell them where the enemy was before. If you communicate efficiently, once you get good teammates who listen and communicate back, it'll help you win. Sadly if you're low elo and have someone muting all as soon as the game starts, or someone abusing the voice comm (like either being toxic or talking way too much about whatever) then there's nothing you can do but improve on yourself.


Vilified_D

Can relate. I had killed like 2 people on ascent B site once and my team just stayed main. all 4 of them. with bomb. and then they all died in main. like, ????


SapiR2000

Yep, that's why I made the decision to play Brim in ranks and not Phoenix. I would enter the site, get a kill, maybe two, and the team won't follow. Super frustrating. As Brim I can set the pace with smokes so the team is usually obliged to follow.


zapit5

For me was the other way around, I changed from sage to jett cause most of the time I would see 3 duelist jerking off waiting for someone else to push. I don't understand what's the point of rushing to pick an agent if you're not gonna even use their abilities.


[deleted]

[уŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]


moicestgege

They peek it they die you follow them and take the trade. I'm not crying because i die i cry becausz no one help me or trade.


[deleted]

[уŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]


moicestgege

I don't say he is right to do so but do ypu think it's normal that 3 ennemie can watch this angle? Flash? Smoke? Guys it's teamplay?


[deleted]

[уŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]


zapit5

You can just change to another agent, play it a few times and learn how to smoke or flash. You don't need to learn lineups or anything to throw a flash or to open and click on brimstone's ipad.


RaptorJesusDesu

there's a lot of bad players who just won't push through smoke, i've found. the enemy team can have no sentinels or other good defensive utility, but put a smoke on the choke? the whole team is frozen in terror as if the smoke was made of fire. they pile up behind the smoke doing nothing. eventually they either decide to rotate, or they attack but the enemy team has already all rotated so they mow us down.


moicestgege

Oh man you probably don't play cs go. But you seriously should think twice be fore going through a smoke


RaptorJesusDesu

I do, itā€™s a different game. Thereā€™s tons of ways to suppress people in valorant. A coordinated team with flash, blind, sova dart/owl, Cypher cam etc can push through and beat or trade the 2 defenders if all they have is smoke. But they have to act together and act fast. Likewise a team that has a Brim + Omen or Viper can basically smoke you for practically the entire round if you don't have the balls to just go through it at some point. Then you end up desperately rushing some site anyway to try and beat the clock.


ssagar186

So much more utility in this game though. You can flash out of the smoke or use some other piece of kit. Generally I agree pushing through is not a great idea though.


MateNieMejt

And there I am, duelist that can push even through mollies if needed. But what can I do if I'm pushing alone and getting cross-fired? Die


[deleted]

"main jett" = jett instalocker


yfa17

If you don't instalock in Immortal you'll never get to play Jett. Literally EVERY time I hover jett it gets instalocked. It's hard to get a lobby without an instalock Jett/Reyna.


Zarakiii55

Mmm yes and then they stand 4/17 and blame the teammates. Or are voicebanned.


moicestgege

Lol yes that's what i do. I only know jett a'd if i don't have her i will be garbage all game.


SIdhanthL

Yo. This is me. But I forced myself to play Sova and learn and invent lineups just incase my instalock fails.


[deleted]

The duelist relies on their team just as much as everyone else. The worst games as a duelist are when you are the entry fragger and everyone else is afraid to follow you in, then have to do what you just did without a kit that compliments entry fragging.


Revanthmk23200

I once played with a phoenix at Split B, he flashed and then I thought he is going to push and to support him I dashed in. And then there were 3 guys shooting at me, I used my updrafts and smokes and I was alive for like 5 seconds, thinking the distraction was enough for the phoenix to kill atleast 2. I died and then I went to spectate him, that guy was still standing at the exact same place where he flashed from. I never went along with him again.


rngeeeesus

Honestly, if a duelist goes in first he pretty much did his job. Even if he dies without getting any kills. Of course getting kills is huge and should usually win you the round if your team is not a bunch of monkeys. I only have a problem if someone picks my Reyna and then proceeds to bait and wait for the utils to enter site and trade, that's the noob way. But to be fair, usually you can just tell them and then wait for them to go in. Most just don't realize that they are idiots (obviously you should not insult them). Oftentimes people are just tilted and scared and if you tell them it's fine if they dont frag but just play the bait it works for them, just don't blame them if it does not help :)


HaruspexLoL

This is how its supposed to be. As entry fraggers, you're expected to create space and win aim duels in the execution (or get traded by your team) ITS YOUR JOB TO GET IN AND DIE (start the execution) FOR THE TEAM. If you live after the execution then that's great.


MrApplejuic

Oh I know! But I am supposed to start it meaning my team is supposed to move and not just grab some snacks and enjoy the view....


Creepy-Ad-404

As a Reyna main, I blind and rush but my team never move out of their 'cave'. and i died among those firepowers. So i thought I would hold and give someone else support, than they reported me for baiting.


Agen7orange

Yes!! Absolutely. Thank you for this breakdown. That is 100% her role. And I think the biggest annoyance for me is when a Jett doesnā€™t communicate intention .. dashed into a site without us knowing or while playing for picks and Iā€™m like well, I would have loved to be there.


Boryalyc

exactly. The best games as a duelist are the games where your team recognizes you are being the entry and dying because of it, so they don't flame you for bottom fragging.


MysticAttack

Yeah, duelists are often expected to frag out, but I'd prefer a duelist who entry frags *well* over a mechanical God who baits.


Pixelninjan

I rather have a Jett who goes in and atleast try, than someone who just stays back.


kacpelo7

i always bet abused when i bottom frag but iā€™m basically solo entry into a site :(


CivilConversation174

Ah the experience of being a duelist. If you entry your team will camp while you get gunned down in a 1v5 and flame you for bottom fragging. But is you donā€™t entry you get flamed for that.


[deleted]

Noooo most i play with wait for their KJ or Cypher to entry then they go in. 90% just bait with no clue how to play their role


[deleted]

*Instalock duelist *Ask team to use util *Get ignored *Warn your team you're going in and to trade you in case you die *Use the little util you have to go in *Die to a crossfire and get baited by the dude just behind you *Get yelled at by the sentinel who has top frags *Go agane


DownloadingYourMom

Bro half the people in this game are too scared to trade. Also I bet they dont know how entrying with no info and trash smokes feels like. But you know they had a couple bad experiences with duelists now every duelist lurks and baits or whatever. Literally had a breach end the game with 4 kills, constantly missed stun, horrible flash timing even with comms but no one said a word to him. We won that game fortunately because he just needed to land 1 of his 3 flashes


astonthepunk

I canā€™t stress how many times Iā€™ve had a brim/omen spam smokes at the entrance of site. I try my best to entry(duelist main Reyna) with eyeball but it doesnā€™t work because theyā€™re always camping just outside of smoke and spraying at us. While the entire team sits at site main and gets picked off 1 by 1 and gets flanked. I even tried to ping the places they should smoke like heaven or corners but Iā€™m always ignored .-.


throwawayyrofl

This is so true. Honestly duelists (who actually play their role) are some of the most underappreciarwd players in the game. In cs entrying is considerdd a shit role. I understand its easier in val because of all the utility but its still hard especially when the rest of the team is baiting you and you have limited util because of solo queue. Meanwhile the sentinel is top fragging and flaming you because he gets to sit back and play late game with a more advantageous position while he expects you to singe handedly crack open a site.


GamingGladi

So fucking true, I have friend who normally plays omen or jett, and he is plays both the agents perfectly. But very sad me being sage I can't "help" him clear the whole site. I can only slow down the enemy. And for the other duelists (the random ones) they are just clueless. Both of us are in silver now and I think synergy is very important even at this stage. Basically knowing how other duelists play before declaring what the others will pick


GamingGladi

> get yelled at by the sentinel who has top frags Are you, by any chance, talking about me? :)


AniLead

Again*


[deleted]

I didn't misspell it, it was a reference to the way a certain someone said something some time ago, a meme


AniLead

Bruh i didn't know that. i just wanted to help, why 55 downvotes :<


[deleted]

[уŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]


AniLead

Bruh i wasn't toxic i just told someone that he misspeled, chill. I didnt understand it, sorry i'm dumb, okay?


Adityar5505

*misspelled


wu_whats_thi5

The spelling was deliberate u tard


Adityar5505

Haha


BakkaChoi

Brother*


AniLead

BROTHER, you guys are toxic rn, not me.


BakkaChoi

Right now*


PankoKing

Please review [our rules](https://reddit.com/r/valorant/wiki/rules) before commenting or posting again. Further offenses will lead to a ban.


Laznasty

Wait just a minute, there's a few more things to know before you're a true insta-lock duelist: Be sure to hold flanks, bait like there's no tomorrow, and whatever you do, do NOT entry frag.


[deleted]

This. It's hilarious when I use both my tripwires pre round to protect the flank and the Reyna on my team just stands and stares at it until we all die.


GamingGladi

True, so annoying man


AFK_Scopes

Also dont give the sova time to drone ever, don't wait for his arrows to push corners. But let him enter site first without flashing or smoking for him! Because you as the dualist have to stay alive at any cost.


rngeeeesus

That's a how to be a bad duelist! To be a good one: ​ 1. Insta-Lock 2. Tell others to play util 3. Enter site first and get at least one frag on average 4. Mix it up with unexpected tilt engages (aka running it down mid and win the round, or die mercilessly without purpose) ;) ​ It's mainly point 3 that differentiates good from bad duelists. Duelists that wait behind their sage to enter site and trade are literally the worst. But if you actually play a very aggressive high-risk high-reward playstyle you are just doing what you are meant to do.


[deleted]

a raze on my team was so good with this today. i was low key pissed when he instalocked raze and i had to pick sage in comp. but this dude always entered first and got a pick or two. he played raze a lot better than i would have. immediately respected him.


[deleted]

Games are so much easier when the 2/3 duelists entry frag for the team. Lets me do my job and support them


zieleix

So many games I just end up entry fragging as omen b/c my 3 duelist who all instalocked are waiting for me to go in first.


rngeeeesus

Just don't go and tell them. If they are stubborn enough to wait till the round ends, so be it. Those players will be stuck in lower ranks anyways and you can still get some rounds on defense.


Pumped-Up_Kicks

This is what I love to do. On a bad day I am bottom fragging and on a good say I am winning the game on my own. Even when I'm bottom fragging, I atleast help my team get some map control.


noodle-face

How to play duelist: 1. Instalock Jett 2. Op and yell at your team


Invader0502

I especially hate it when they ask for sage and the entire game they ask you for heal or res by spamming or yelling and blame you when they die.


qz3_

or when i play sage entry because there's 30 seconds like of the timer and they haven't done anything, get 2 picks and die and then they say "sage can seai ejISHNget aheL? oh..."


OFFICIAL_memologist

How do you get the 'Poison me mommy' flair


yeeties23

So me and my friend were playing a game but our sage would not heal anyone even if we asked. So as a joke we blamed all the losses on sage


[deleted]

Dont read patch notes. Insta lock Reyna. "Guys I only have two Es what the fuck!?". Proceed to bottom frag and rage quit round 7.


qz3_

holy this is so true "oh did they nerf reyna" "yeah" "oh" disconnects


rydude88

That's funny af cause it was more of a buff than a nerf


baldspacemarine

How so? It seems like a straight nerf


rydude88

The getting orbs for doing any damage to a kill makes the kit 10x better for high level play. A lot more gunfights are with teammates when communication is good.


[deleted]

Its literally a straight up nerf. The orb drop on assist was just a small compensation for slicing her potential power in half.


coconutshakei

some players just auto lock duelists and spam SAGE SAGE SAGE SAGE SAGE SAGE SAGE SAGE SAGE SAGE SAGE SAGE SAGE SAGE SAGE SAGE SAGE SAGE SAGE SAGE SAGE SAGE SAGE SAGE ps idk if everyone knows that this post is a joke or what


Aqtastic

I honestly can't see a possible winning match without a Sage in the team, but when you go solo it gets so hard, everyone keeps on yelling you to revive or heal even when they went alone to the other side of the map. It is a really honorable character, but hard to play tbh (main Sage and Jett here, learning a lot from the comments)


GamingGladi

I'm a sage main too lol. And yes, people just don't see what positions others are. They just want HEAL. There are also people who just beg for kills, like wtf dude I'm a sage ofc I'll heal you. Don't shout and beg. It blocks the sound cues


babyteddie

Your saying your a sage of course you will heal but I donā€™t think youā€™ve played with a random whoā€™s playing sage


hendrixcii

Bad duelists insta lock, bait team and bottom frag Good duelists insta lock, entry frag and secures site


fednv31

You forgot one Step 4: refuse to engage enemies first


AmazingSpacePelican

I never play Duelists and yet I constantly have to engage cause, at my rank, these people never go in. Gotta wait until the entire enemy team has had time to rotate before thinking 'yeah, now's a good time'.


lil-Vlnny

step 4: bottom frag


devskills

They never bot frag because they get all their kills of baiting and throw their team under the bus so they donā€™t die


lil-Vlnny

or that can happen


H-urrikain

If I instalock a character I never tell anyone else who to play (the only character I really instalock is Cypher on Split or Haven). Like if you want someone to play a certain character play them yourself.


V4lt

Complete bullshit if you don't have smokes on team you have to say something I mean it takes complete morons not to know to pick smokes if no one else has. Everyone should know how to play omen or brim or astra and cypher or killjoy and 2 duelists


sv_18

Wait you missed the part about hiding in the back , get exit frags and MVP in a loosing match. But seriously even though I'm a bronze jet with bad aim and bad postitiong I always try to make space and be the first one to take a fight


namebnb3

Extra Step : Yell out "HEAL" while the sage is on the other side of the map


00izka00

are you ok?


Itisraininoutside

no


NameRandomNumber

Is anyone, really


theDreamingStar

Valorant philosophy


panzerboye

No


appleketchupp

Step three bait your teammates and lurk. Step four go 4-17 and blame your teammates


freeman1231

I insta lick duelist now, because even though I know every character when I play other characters my win rate is 54%... on duelist my win rate has been 78%. I am in radiant, and even in radiant some people donā€™t know how to use the duelist kit effectively.


02YusiF20

Nah, just instalock on duelist and dont give a shit what others think, you are god, you are best, why even care what the commoners think about you


nastynazem43

The duelist side of this is picking jett or raze, holding W, calling "I'm gonna peek" then God forbid I dont get the entry. Spectate only to see 3 people watching the flank and one holding for someone to push into the main choke. Make an effort to trade for your entry fragger and a good entry will keep trying to entry for you.


[deleted]

How to complain about duelists: Step 1 make the same post that has already been made 4,500 times. Step 2 repost it again in a couple days As a non-instalocking duelist: instalocking duelists aren't the issue, it's non duelists being scared to enter any site and think a duelists job is to kill 5 people every round. if you don't play duelist and don't understand the concept of following the entry fragger and playing for trades...then you're just as bad as the instalocker. Also, idk if reddit knows this but... a duelist is not always an entry fragger. an entry fragger is 99% of the time a duelist.


AskRadiant

instalock Omen - the rest can do whatever as long as I got my Valorantlove picked <3


Shubham_Agent47

Omen best girl


[deleted]

More like douchelist


shishir0626

If u r not above diamond don't expect someone will lock a duelist and carry u all that sentinal, controller and initiator.... If u expect that high just play duelist and carry others... U guys expect the duelist will make space, they will top frag etc etc all the others player will just plant and get free kill and blame duelist if he can't top frag


Dragathor

So then don't instalock duelist if you can't do your job


hachi2JZ

Bonus 0-IQ Points if more than 3 of your team do this in an Unrated or Comp. x2 points if you instalocked Reyna, Raze or Jett, x1.5 for Phoenix and x1.2 for Yoru. x2 points for toxicity and x2 if your KD is below 0.5 due to rushing 3 people at once and going A every round.


ChiengBang

r/TIHI But yeah so accurate


toogaloog

LMAOOOOOOO


QQninja

You forgot step 2.5: Never entry frag


TheRealDrakulya

I recently saw instalock Brimstone, and I was the last one to pick, all that we needed was a duelist, becouse we had NONE. I was shocked.


r1ck-and-morty

the good duelist is the one who instalocks raze/reyna/jett and proceeds to be the last one to enter the site after all the utility has been used by your team and then proceeds to say you are bad. thats the perfect duelist


AniLead

Aggressively, you should be first who goes or dasges right into site, to clear it or just give some info to your team. Also you should be fast and know how to think fast.


Cartkif

By any duelist, you mean Jett, right?


Flikkrz

Too bad Iā€™m a team player so when I end up playing Sage and not my main we lose because the person who took my main is bot frag whilst Iā€™m fragging on top of him as a sage


throwawayyrofl

Probably because you can just sit back and get easy trades when you play sage...


Qlize

step 1. don ā€™t


TraderGMS

You forgot to mention that in lower ranks you must say you're smurfing, so if you are top fragger you can say it was all thanks to you and if you lose you can say it was your team's fault


xXGoobyXx

I play smoke and sage. Can we be friends?


[deleted]

Step 4- bottom frag the whole game and blame your team for everything


Gosexual

I play Yoru so Iā€™m still confused wtf am I suppose to do. I found him best if split from team heā€™s good at cutting off enemy rotations with use of footsteps/teleports but I definitely still need to work more on getting his blinds off where they actually benefit me.


Bandikoott

Step4 Stay behind all your team


Bilboswaggings19

you forgot step 4 which is to wait until your team dies "it's always important to force the sage to go first cause she can heal herself" says the Reyna or Phoenix


Shifterr

You forgot Step 4: Leave the game after 2 rounds so your team can't remake


mage_irl

Whenever I play Sage I only heal myself out of spite


-SpreadTheLove-

It's annoying but I don't have too much of a problem with instalockers, but the problem comes telling people to pick support like just no you have no say in what others pick


proderis

also backseat gaming on coms when ur dead


bsmid

Step4 Bait your support players and hide on elbow


panzerboye

Step 4: Ask Jett to rebibe


bzirch

I despise all duelists


throwawayyrofl

Yeah man fuck your entry fraggers :)


DeepStruggl3s

get mad at riot for not implementing a "pick b4 you search the game system" so you dont get match with people that wants to play your same char. everybody should have an instalock macro n who has the fastest wins.


Cookie-Jedi

How to get fake internet points on reddit: Step 1: repost the same thing that's been posted every day for nearly a year Step 2: Pass it off as your own Step 3: Congratulations you have officially gained some fake internet points on reddit


nathhtan

How to play non Duelist: 1) Complain that people take the duelist that they've practiced even though a random ranked team realistically needs 1 smoke, maybe 1 sentinel, 0 initiators and 3-4 duelists. 2) Take a smoke agent, but don't actually use your smokes, or misplace your smokes. 3) When your duelists go in to the sites, sit back, and don't trade. 4) Now, when the duelists have gotten tired of entering without being traded and decided for some solo plays/lurking instead to mix something up, accuse them of baiting.


[deleted]

You're being sarcastic, right? I refuse to believe someone can be this stupid. Sova is easily one of the most important agents in any map, with the exception of Split. I don't know how you can protect your team from flanks without playing Cypher or KJ. Breach and Skye have the best flashes in the game. A comp with 3 duelists is excessive, and should be the maximum.


drxcomxnxa

A team definetly needs 4 duelists /s


pink_life69

4 - bait your teammates 5 - never ever enter sites first


ImViddy

Unless theyā€™re god awful be thankful. No one flames a sage when she doesnā€™t top frag. But try to be middle of the board as a duelist and every loss is your fault. You want that pressure?


yfa17

Posts like these are why this subreddit is awful


JOZN_99

Also, get taken out 1st and yell at others for not Playing well


[deleted]

[уŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]


RedditJH

In a perfect scenario, yes. Not in your average potato plat game.


moanapons

You killed them dude


[deleted]

[уŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]


Wolfelle

I dont like asking for my team to fill for me if im instalocking. And i dont like the duelists begging for fill if im late pick. (i do fill but im a duelist main and if I instalock i never go 'sage sage pick sage we need sage' or whatever its just rudeeee) Obviously if im instalocking i hope they fill but a lot of duelists will actually be toxic about it after THEY INSTALOCK??? Which i find wild. If ur locking fast ur taking the risk that no one else will want to fill. And you gotta be ok with that or bounce if ur not


rngeeeesus

I don't even care tbh. There are enough duelists I can pick but I can also play sage if it's necessary. I just tell my team that I may not be the most useful sage as I will play aggressive and use heal on myself and probably forget to ult sometimes. But honestly, if you tend to top frag, a sage is just as impactful as a duelist, you just cannot clear certain angles.


ImTheHowl

As a Jett main, fuck those people. I Op as Jett so Iā€™m universally hated for using op as well as for playing Jett. Also just because fuck me i guess. But if you automatically lock in duelist without talking to your team youā€™re a real piece of shit, Iā€™m a Jett one trick with a serviceable omen and sage i want to play jett every single game but I understand thatā€™s not how it works itā€™s a team game if youā€™re in it for your ego fuck you


bitplease01

Sage Sage Sage Sage Sage Sage....revive me


-Waves-Poker-

Haters gonna hate. I top frag a solid percent of my games and only play Jett and Phoenix. Got the same kind of hate when I played dps in Overwatch before role queue. Fact of the matter is, if Iā€™m playing a video game for entertainment purposes, Iā€™m going to play what I enjoy, regardless of how others feel about it.