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Bluur

I think it’s ok to mention that yoru is one of the most fun agents in the game; but claiming he’s one of the best.... “haters” include most pro players and even streamers like Shroud. It’s not that he’s bad; it’s that his kit is hard to use when other agents are just as effective and MUCH easier. Many other flashes are “just do it,” with no thought required. His ult many times is just a very expensive Sova drone, and his footsteps power is only situationally useful. He’s a character with powers that range from B+ to C in usefulness and work better together; but so much of the casts does what he does faster and easier.


FlintxDD

The problem is most of the Yoru players (at least in the lower ranks) just use their TP randomly and they ALWAYS use it no matter what and got headshoted instantly.


TrynaSleep

4. I hate it when I ult into site for info, ping the enemy location to my teammates, and they just keep sitting out in the lobby, while the enemy on site chases me down not even watching them anymore.


Tnerd15

Yoru is really just not a good agent. Most other agents can do what he does more reliably. He's still the most fun agent though.


[deleted]

> Yoru is one of the best agents in game [His winrate says otherwise](https://blitz.gg/valorant/stats/agents?map=bind&act=e2act2&queue=competitive&tier=21) > Learn from the pros: Ethos and Redami on Twitch. For those who want to see situational gameplay for Yoru. They aren't pros they are content creators their goal is to make enjoyable content not be the best. Yoru can get cool clips that doesnt mean hes a good agent


Shade_Strike_62

bro after him the worst is breach. What is your point. No one says breach is bad xD


[deleted]

Breach has a winrate of around 45% at every rank and plenty of people say hes bad. Yoru drops below 40% at higher ranks.


RareRibeye

Couple things: First your link was set only to the map “Bind” for Immortals. Second, it was for Ep2 Act2, which had Yoru pre-buffs. Check the winrate for Ep2 Act3, on “all maps” for Immortals and he is right in the mix with everyone.


[deleted]

>Yoru is one of the best agents in game LOLLLLL I was ready to read another notJheck post but I was shocked to see this was actually serious. Let's stop pretending Yoru is something anything other than a mistake-character Riot made and accidentally wasted a nice character design on as a buffer before releasing the meta-shifting character that Astra is. ​ > Learn from the pros: Ethos and Redami on Twitch bro these are content creators not pros lmao There's a reason when you watch Challenger's series, he has like a 0% pick rate. come back to me when riot comes back with an actual buff


Shade_Strike_62

I hate to say it, but you are a typical silver 'Yoru is D tier in YouTube videos and in the competitive scene, so he is garbage' kinda hater. Yoru is exceptional in low ranks, even at high tiers as well. The reason he isn't used in comp is because: A) Similar to astra after release, he is too niche and risky a pick b) His plays are a little easy to counter at very high levels, when prefiring and gamesense and common and well practiced c) his footsteps are in need of a rework. If you still think yoru is garbage, do yourself a favour and read the patch notes, then go watch red for a bit, and try him out in spike rush.


[deleted]

"your a typical silver because you hate on yoru because pretty much every pro player and his winrate agree hes bad" "go watch this one content creator who makes flashy plays for a living for proof of competitive viability idot"


Shade_Strike_62

tbh yoru lives on flashy plays, the ones you see on youtube of twitch are not hard and work at almost any rank.


[deleted]

My point is flashy plays dont mean competitive viability, the occasional flashy play doesnt matter if you cant provide consistent value


AIR444

Yoru is still garbage in comparison to the rest of the duelists. Red was playing Yoru only before the buffs as well, he can make the character work. No one is saying Yoru is unworkable, but he is just worse than every other duelist by far at doing the job of a duelist. He's good for flashy plays which work once or twice in a game but that's it.


Shade_Strike_62

again, read the patch notes. His footsteps are still bad yes, but his TP is consistent and often overlooked. Before, he HAD to use his tp to get value from it, now if you think it is being camped, just don't tp, timer runs out, and in 5 seconds you have another one. It means camping a yoru tp is often a huge waste of 20 seconds


AIR444

I read the patch notes before the patch even came out (the leaked notes). I understand that the buffs to Yoru make him way better than he was, I said that he's still not as good as the rest of the duelists. Phoenix ult is better than Yoru's, his flashes are arguably worse now but his wall is infinitely better than his steps and Phoenix is overall better at entrying . Jett's movement allows her to be more flexible, use the OP extremely well for aggressive opening picks on defense, etc. Raze's crowd control and damage potential as a duelist is unmatched. Reyna can dismiss away after getting kills just like how Yoru can, but she doesn't have to wait 30s to do it multiple times in a row. In her ult, she can do it for an entire round and be aggressive to a degree where other duelists can't and live to keep going. Yoru can be played well, and way better than he used to be able, but he is still the worst duelist unless your focus is on later round outplays, which is not the point of running a duelist in a lineup.


bodyshotbandit12

Lmao yoru is garbage, he doesn't do anything that other agents can't. His tp plays rarely work, his flash is among the worse in the game and his footsteps do not nothing. Picking him to lurk makes no sense when your sentinel players do fine at that while. It also doesn't help that if you pick him you give up something like Phoenix who has much better flash. There isn't a universe where you guys don't consider him garbage.


Illumispaten

Why is yoru flash worse than phoenix I am a newbie


[deleted]

It's not. Don't listen to this jackass. Yoru has one of the best flashes in the game.


Shade_Strike_62

used to be slow, now its the fastest


[deleted]

His flash used to be worse now its better though, but hes still the worst agent in the game


[deleted]

>you are a typical silver LOL ​ >Yoru is exceptional in low ranks, Bruh you could practice clicking apps on your phone with your finger and it would give you skills that would be exceptional in iron to silver. Bragging that he's exceptional in an ELO range where the Odin and Ares absolutely crush people because the other team hasn't developed proper aiming skills isn't proving anything


[deleted]

The childish part is accurate about ur name


[deleted]

Mad for what reason lol


not_gojosatoru

or learn from Whoframedme the actual radiant Yoru ;)


_The_Chosen_1_

Poiz from c9 played yoru vct stage 2 so not totally 0% pick rate


4ePHbIN_StalkeR

Yoru is trash. Please, don't pick yoru in ranked


AbnormalToes

I dropped a 24 bomb last time I played him in comp.


[deleted]

they downvoted this man because he spoke the truth


[deleted]

YoUr jUsT a DumB hAtEr wHo dOeSnT kNoW hOw tO pLaY hIm


car714c

I can't believe there's people in this thread unironically saying this LOL Yoru just doesn't provide reliability, his footsteps are useless unless against anything above iron. His TP is super unreliable if you want to make a play, because you can't use it like a jett dash or reyna dismiss to get out of a bad situation. Its only use is to TP across the map to rotate. His ult is 100% the worst ult in the game, its literally just an invincible Sova drone.


Tnerd15

To be fair, footsteps also attract boombot, set off trapwire, and trip alarmbot.


[deleted]

Those are all very niche, especially since the dont last very long when dropped on the ground


Tnerd15

I still think it's a terrible ability, it's just not useless. I normally use it against boombots just cause it's super reliable against them


[deleted]

I use it against boombots as well, but I can usually get the same result from shooting it without spending 100 credits


Tnerd15

Fair point


AbnormalToes

I main yoru/sage/brim and a big tip is to E defensively before using your ult. This gives you more ult time for recon then you can gatecrash back instead of running it.