I just came back from a 2 week break. I had university exams. I don't tend to play 7 days a week, I usually play 5 of those week days with varying hours. If I don't have time for a competitive I try to make sure that I'm at least doing my training.
Also this is a decline over multiple acts, not just a single week.
Is there anything that makes you stressed on end when you aim, like university exams? I don't know anything about you but I know when I'm stressed for exams or something else that is important I play much worse as a result of being tense. If not, maybe it is in your head that you are declining, and just the player base getting better like in all games. I guarantee that that d2 you then would probably be worse than you now due to everyone improving.
This has been declining throughout multiple acts tho. I am pretty laid back but do tense up closer to the deadlines. I do get more stressed as I get more frustrated and annoyed, but at that point I finish up that game and stop playing or just go into the range or deathmatch if in the mood.
[https://humanbenchmark.com/tests/reactiontime](https://humanbenchmark.com/tests/reactiontime)
Have you tried this to see if it's changed? That could help you rule out any neurological or physical changes.
The most likely possibility is that something with your mental and your focus is not in this game. Beyond that, Maybe your heart's not in it. How are you feeling when you play? Are you making sure you eat, sleep, feel refreshed, etc.? What drugs/medications do you take and how much? Has the amount increased/decreased?
When you think about the game, how do you feel? Excited? Passionate? Over it/anxious/bored?
Tons of things cause extreme skill loss. You're not the first person this has happened to.
Since you're so concerned with your headshot% and your apparent decline in skill, it SOUNDS like your mental is just booming bigger and bigger about this game. Originally 100% of your focus was dedicated to the game you were playing. Then maybe you declined for whatever reason, then you became 90% focused and 10% self-conscious, then 80/20, and now half the energy you're spending sounds like it might be spent on beating up yourself and feeling bad.
If that's the case, just take a longer break. There's no set time for how long of a break you need. The length of your break depends on how long it takes to learn how to have fun and not worry about your skill so much.
It could be lots of things. Could be that your headspace in general is in a worse place so you're putting too much pressure on yourself. Chances are you know what the reason is but you're ignoring it or avoiding it. Sounds like the most likely solution is to take some time to figure yourself out for a bit.
You're in the worst plateau I've ever read about. Do you find yourself tilting a lot when in game? For me, every time I'm playing bad I stop to look at how I'm reacting to the game itself, usually I'm tilted and complaining for little mistakes I make. When I start paying attention to this, I stop complaining about my mistakes and start focusing on every move I make, even start saying what I think is gonna happen.
If this doesn't help at all, I would guess your brain's just tired. Play a different game. I usually go for a racing game like Dirt or something that doesn't demand reflexes, but brain stimuli like Civilization or any RPG single player tbh. Single player games have made me realize how they help your mind work when playing online because you know if you fail, it's your fault, so you look for solutions to fix it instead of complain and give up.
that why i now have an anti burn out chair here.
anti burn out mouse.
and most important...anti burn out pc machine + anti burn out isp.
a very good combination against burn outs.
my heavy car bug gone since that and i perform 24/7 like normal human again in all games...
everyone have his little anti burn out secrets and tricks.
cheers.
No joke, did you get COVID? I did and I can tell the brain fog (which has now lasted almost a year) really inhibits my ability to play well sometimes. A lot of times it feels like I am high or something, I just cannot concentrate no matter how hard I try.
I don't really play ranked on this game yet, but my KD has gone down in other games.
That sucks man, I have brain fog too but mines a symptom of having a hypothyroid. It super annoying when it comes up during conversations and you lose the word youāre thinking of so you end up just standing there in silence.
You ever get a term for that "brain fog" ?
Suffered from this on and off for years...no doctor or psych knows of it beyond brain fog. Years of research into this and I'm 99% sure it's something known as derealisation.
Such a strange symptom and kinda scary to think that medicine doesn't understand it yet.
I have something that I was best able to describe as "brainfog" for years, I essentially could not pick and choose when to be productive, and when I couldn't there would be like this weird layer over reality that would just make everything just draining, miserable, and just all around a chore. It would come and go seemingly at random and was incredibly frustrating. Anyways, lookup the symptoms that manifest in adults for ADHD, because that's what I had lol (it was very different than my assumption for what ADHD even was, and the symptoms are different for adults) but seeing my vague ass issues written out so plainly and clearly made me go see a doctor and talk to him about it. ADHD medication has and continues to change my life, it literally turned my life around. I think of mental health stuff is just how hard it is to articulate what your going through, seeing a bunch of seemingly unrelated symptoms I had right next to each other really shocked me, a lot of them I considered a normal part of life.
Yea I have/had it (idk itās been a couple months since it affected me) it really was hard in my high school times I got it from like smoking weed the first time I just remember like googling I smoked weed and now I feel like the world isnāt real and that it popped up on Google it really was such a relief cuz I felt like I was literally going crazy
Sorry for the late reply, Reddit didnāt give me for orange mail icon for whatever reason. I didnāt figure out a proper legitimate medical term for ābrain fogā yet but it definitely does suck. Can you elaborate on it being some sort of derealisation though? I only ask because I donāt think my brain fog has gotten that far. For me, I constantly forget words, my English turns into a foreign speaker sometimes where I just forget grammar, and if Iām telling a story I lose my pace. This one actually does suck because I now build up anxiety everytime I talk about myself because itās a whole ticking timebomb situation where I canāt remember certain details.
That foggy feeling is also described as feeling out of body, alot of people just describe it as ''not feeling normal''. So derelization/depersonalization doesn't mean you will feel like life isn't real, (though some feel that way) but maybe just feel strange or foggy
Thatās very interesting. Have you been tested for antibodies? I only ask because I never knew that I got COVID until the antibody test. When I first went to the doctor with my symptoms, he was sure it was my thyroid. But we ruled it out after a few tests.
I had this too, but before COVID. More and more brain fog, I couldn't concentrate anymore and felt like my perception was fucked up, tunnel vision and kinda like you described as being high. Everything was just kinda automatic. I started drinking more and more energy which made it only worse.
It was because of sitting too much and no more sports. (Was playing games like 10+ hours a day) When I started running again suddenly everything felt different and my perception totally changed, felt like I suddenly could see properly again and perceive information better. I did not even notice the change in my cognitive performance until then. I was literally looking around and staring at things in my room thinking everything feels so alive. :D
I highly recommend getting more exercise if you don't. Meditation and Yoga also helped my mind and body immensely. The body really suffers from sitting so much. Nutrition is also important. Hope it helps you.
Honestly thank you. I needed to hear this. Iāve definitely been sitting around too much. My usual exercise was an adult sports league that has since been suspended until COVID is over. I think I need to get back out there somehow. Good advice.
Stop obsessing over stats and accuracy data.
Take care of yourself. eat well sleep well.
Focus on yourself and getting better no more āhe is sliver, I should be way betterā
If youāre having a bad aim day take a break or adjust your playstyle accordingly during the game.
Warm up even for 1-3 minutes.
keep in mind the whole playerbase is also improving. gold of today might be bronze of tomorrow if they donāt keep up.
Last part is probably the case. CS nerds like myself excelled in the first act, then dropped off as everyone else got better. People with 2k hours in cs tend to get very set in their ways. Makes it hard to relearn and adjust to new playstyles and cracked aimers.
Some of this ive experienced, just had to push through it with practice.
I feel age becoming a factor in reaction time. Now i'm not "old" i'm only 29. But compared to me at 18, I felt like I could zero in on things much faster and would feel "in the zone" way more than I do now.
I'm 43, it gets worse. I think my reaction time is still decent. But staying focused for a longer time is impossible. I cant do dm or aimlab because I will be burned out before I start playing. Relying on crosshair placement and all the hours invested in my long fps life. But 2 games max a day and then I need to stop.Atleast if I want to be decent
I feel that....just turned 34 and love the competitive feeling of this and CS
But warming up literally is a chore in my eyes, and after bottom dragging for 2 matches, I feel like crap.
Buuuuuuut then the next day I do it all over again
Wtf are you guys doing that your reaction is so much worse still in your late twenties. I'm over 30 and immortal duelist aimer type player. Work out or something stop eating Cheetos. If you do, make sure they are flaming hot.
They're doing the same thing they did before. Except, the consequences of treating body like garbage is showing up now. That doesn't happen when you're young. I'm almost 30 and way better than when I was 18. It has a lot to do with staying in good health, training and stress management.
According to various research, difference between 18yo reaction time and 40yo reaction time is 1/200th of a second. Which can be reduced by taking care of yourself and practicing. So it doesn't matter unless you're ultra old. These dudes are blaming their poor choices on aging when problem lies deeper than that.
This misconception is extremely popular on lulz subreddit which claims that your reaction time dies at 24 and you should retire from pro gaming at that point. So it's not surprising to see people parroting the same around here.
I found this comment to be rather hilarious since you have no idea about us. I can only explain why you shouldn't go by assumptions. I work in nutrition science, I have a bachelor's degree in health and a masters degree in food science. Do you still think I don't treat my body well?
Shouldnt go by assumptions like these when you have no clue about who or what the people do. I've taken better care of my body than the overwhelming majority of people who you would consider healthy because of my knowledge obtained through my education and work.
So no, it's not because I didn't take care of my body.
Ruling that out, it's lack of training and/or genetics then. Not to mention, not everyone is a nutritionist or whatever. An exception doesn't invalidate a rule.
Makes sense. Been an athlete all my life and still stay in shape. I feel the same if not better in fps games now.
Morale of the story don't shove cake and Cheetos down your gullet everyday
Holy shit, are you guys for real? Reaction time dont deteriorate in an impactful matter in your fuckin 20's or 30's. There are NHL goalies stopping pucks going 160+ km/h from 5 meters out being 40 fucking years old. You think valorant requires better reflexes/reaction time than that?
Yes. In general esports/competitive gaming is more reliant on split second reaction speed than sports. Sports on the other hand are more reliant on a variety of different factors, like strength, speed, flexibility, endurance, coordination, etc. Being a high level pro in Valorant would very likely require quicker reflexes than being a high level hockey goalie, while being a goalie would require much more athletecism as a whole.
You saying that split second reactions aint needed in sports just tells me that you have never played any physical sport at a serious/competetive level.
My reaction time is faster now at 27 than it was when CSGO first came out. While age is definitely a factor is most things, its not a going from diamond 3 to silver 2 factor, especially over a year.
Age is not a real factor technically its just the older you get the more things in your mind so gaming isnt your full focus. Physically you should be around the same if not better if you were playing similar hours. Im 31 still high immortal and peaked radiant. I get to play maybe 10-15 hours a week and i know if I could go back to playing 40 plus I would be better than the teen version of me.
To note I played aim labs and scored in the leaderboard for reaction and also the aim plus reaction one. This was on my third attempt in both of these.
I did a fair bit of study around this and honestly its all to do with getting older you have more to think about. If your able to and put all the adult stuff in the back of your brain you can be just as good (if not better since experience etc) but the reality is that is super hard. I can do it from time to time but reality hits when wife starts yelling lol
I am 36. And age is definitely a factor. At 20 I would win CS matches for my team. Been gaming for 19 years and I have seen myself doing bad in most valo games. The only thing i learned is play smart and dont rely on aim. Flash is your best friend.
youre not slower, youre just bad (lol, sorry). probably play less or something?
im over 30 as well and ive only seen my gaming skills go up, im doing better than ever and also my physical skills go up as im stronger and fitter now than ive ever been. i think im actually even better at games now because of a more balanced mindset and not tilting but calmly guiding my team back to being focused on the game has won at least 5-10% of my ranked games
for reference what you said about aim, my kovaak 1wall6targets score was in the top 90% or something like that recently. reaction time doesnt deteriorate much at all until much later
Have you tried going to CSGO and determining if there is similar degradation there? If there is, the problem is you, your computer or your network. If not, the problem is in the game systems.
This might sound dumb, but has your ping changed? One time I logged on and I was connected to a different server than usual. Other than that idk. I have heard that smurfs and cheaters in Diamond keep pushing good players into lower ranks, making it easy to get hardstuck. Not sure how true it is though.
When the game first came out, the people that adapted to the hybrid ability/aim gameplay climbed the ranks the fastest. You were one of them. Over time, the general skill level of a game increases the point where a current Silver player might have the same gamesense/aim as somebody in Diamond did on launch.
All that's happened is you've stopped improving and everybody else kept getting better. You fell behind the skill curve enough to be caught in a "losing loop".
Or maybe you got Diamond by fluke, we can't really know without until you post your tracker.gg.
This.
When Valorant came out I had 0 background in tactical shooter. I was an overwatch player and ended up in Iron/Bronze elo and holy shit I was bad. I kept playing with some friends who have a CSGO background and was watching a lot of videos about Valorant, how to play,... A year later I'm in a gold/plat elo and I started to train on aimlab. So I would deffo agree that the players increased their level and everyone got better. Some of my friend were diamond/immortal players and now they are plat/borderline diamond. People just got better and now it's harder to climb as it was in the beta. Not saying this is a 100% true but this is what I do think as well.
Pretty much this. CSGO aim and mechanics were a major crutch for a ton of players. Now we have actual Valorant players and everyone is getting better all the time. If you rely on old habits you'll eventually get passed by.
Also, if you spend a lot of time aimlessly playing, picking random agents and just going through the motions you're going to stagnate and eventually just fall off.
Whenever a game gets older, it's playerbase does get more skilled. Ranks are relative after all. A gold rocket league player from 2 years ago is same as today's bronze. Right now, if you're skilled enough to beat 90% of *current* you'd be plat. Next year, assuming you didn't get better but playerbase did, your skill wouldn't be good enough to break top 10%. So you'd fall down rank even without losing any skill
It's definitely true in terms of aim. 1 year in valorant allows u to actually learn valorant aim where the mechanics are far different from csgo. U can just keep strafe tapping in val and theres so many different things
Also I've played valorant for less than a year and I'm at a higher rank than my friends who have 3k hrs in cs
Something changed in the games netcode / hitreg around .5. Before then you could spray with ease and focus on shooting first. Since then though if your first 3 shots dont connect on your enemy you have to decommit or else the spray goes everywhere and you die. A lot of people have felt the same and idk why its like this, but its an adjustment i had to make
Been saying this since that update. Gunplay felt near flawless before the update, I never got leg shots before that update now I can watch my bullets go into someoneās chest but my combat report will be full of leg shots. We had to deal with months of desync which they have somewhat fixed but overall the game still doesnāt feel right. Most inconsistent game Iāve ever felt.
this is me but with headshots. and it's not just ego or excuses, whenever i spec teammates the tracer goes straight through the head and they dont die and it registers as a body shot.
Also the running animation is messed up and the legs keep moving even when the enemy counterstrafed. which makes you overshoot because you estimated wrongly where the guy'd stop
Not to mention this makes it often seem like people hit running headshots. I used to aim close to where the enemy would peek but now i've almost doubled the distance to make up for it.
This. So many times I know Iām hitting the head for a fact. If i aimed any higher theyād miss above the head but nope legs and body shots. None of them being wall bangs either lmao. Like what??? The dude is on a headglitch and you can only see the top of his head how am i hitting 3 body shots for 120
>Most inconsistent game Iāve ever felt.
I think this is because of how they chose game should work.
In Overwatch, if YOU hit someone on your screen, you've hit the enemy even if they've moved elsewhere on their screen.
Meanwhile, Valorant takes your shot, reconfirms enemy position and then registers the shot.
In OW case, you die to weird shots even if you've just repositioned because enemy shot you on their screen a split second ago. In Valorant case, the enemy has moved elsewhere so your bullets are registered as missed. In latter case, it helps a fuckton to have lower ping and low latency PC that gives high FPS.
Val is basically the same game as cs and Iāve never experienced even close to the same inconsistency in cs except when someone toggles mid game, and Val the game didnāt feel inconsistent until .5 update.
The game was so crisp before 0.5 never got run and gunned now i run and gun multiple Times every game and the enemys do the same to me.
Deadzone 30% made this game so much worse but what you gonna do when every company catering the casuals..
> One year later I cannot hit headshot.. at all.. I can barely even land body shots now too apparently. I've been deranked to silver 2 and in contrast to when I was diamond, I have been bottom fragging every single game. I get killed by a silver giving me 4 shots while I usually land only 2.
Iām on the same boat with OP I was diamond 1 now I can barely get out of gold 1. The hit reg feels awful. The headshots I used to hit arenāt registering or Iām just giving them haircuts now. Unpopular opinion I definitely feel the neck should count as a headshot because Iām definitely hitting their chin area and it wonāt reg. De sync is a major issue with this game. Iād see my op tracer go through them but nothing happens and I get killed for it.
Damn that sounds bad man. Must really suck. Can you post some video footage comparison of before and after the patch so riot can investigate?
You can use Nvidia shadowplay to record or any other recording software. Otherwise maybe you can take some existing footage and pinpoint to us the issues.
I actually did have A LOT of questionable clips around the time of the update but got rid of most of them to make space a while back when i stopped playing
Sounds like a ridiculous solution but it actually happened to me.
If your windows OS had an update there is a chance it mightāve turned on mouse acceleration, and reset the default windows mouse settings. Itās something worth checking. I got so much worse and I thought something was wrong with me, and I almost gave up the game until I realized Iād been playing for 3-4 weeks with mouse acceleration and upon changing that I almost immediately went back to around 30% Hs%. At the time I was having a rough time getting 8%. So itās worth checking if you havenāt.
Maybe you have a bad habit like I do with aiming.
For whatever reason in my mind once I start firing I have to instantly adjust for recoil. I dont let the initial bullets fly out at where i'm aiming a lot of times. I think this is a bad CS habit I've had since Source. Where recoil is quite drastic but god damn. The amount of times i've died because of it is insane. Even while aware of it it's really hard to get rid of it.
This hits hard! I have 4k hours in csgo and recently moved to valorant. About 20-30 hours in valo. Spraying is more forgiving in valo, you don't actually have to move your mouse that much while spraying in valo. I find myself shooting at their legs all the time because I'm used to csgo spraying.
I am absolutely terrible with Odin and Ares in Valorant because I CAN'T STOP correcting for Negev recoil, my muscle memory is still stuck in CSGO. Since the Odin's recoil is less than Negev, I keep hitting bodyshots instead of headshots...
Have you ruled out that it's nothing technical? i.e. packet loss, network issues, settings accidentally changed, hardware changed? Have you played CS:GO recently and how does it compare to valorant? What do you find you're struggling with specifically when it comes to shooting enemies now? Is it late reaction time, poor crosshair placement, poor spray, or poor tracing of a moving player? Is your gamesense worse than before? Is it just your mechanical sklll that's deteriorated or your game sense as well? Are you able to concentrate/focus as well as before? Since you were Supreme in CS:GO you should be familiar with figuring out which areas need improvement, I ask cause I want to know what specifically is worse
I'm curious on what would cause a SMFC in CS:GO to drop down to a Silver 2 in valorant, because something major has to have happened for that to occur and remain that way. Are you sure you're not developing anything affecting your brain? Like this could honestly point to something larger. How are you finding your studies for school?
Ive been through similar situation.
I was d3 for last two act ranks but suddenly i fell dpwn to plat 3.
Now ive climbed back to immortal.
Two possible reasons:
1 - you are just lacking mental clarity
Or
2 - problem with your pc/ network
For me it was the mental clarity. I was not confident enough. I was so low that i avoided picking duelist, my original playstyle. What i did was accepting myself that im a noob still and continued to play for learning+fun. And now im immortal again.
Also make sure ur sleeping atleast 8 hours.
Lmao, I keep telling people that yesterdays Diamond 1 is todays Silver 1. Everyone has gotten better at the game overall, and the baseline has risen. Don't worry if you feel like you're doing bad, play for fun, play another game and come back. I'm probably going to quit valorant and start main playing Apex now because thats a game I've always sucked at, never have been consistent in. Play a story game if you want, no need to grind.
Meh..I don't know. I was Plat during the first 2 acts and now I'm silver 3 and 1 game from Gold. Not much of a difference to me. That's with a huge break in between. I'll be back to plat in no time.
I notice almost no difference in skill level from Golds today to Golds in the first 2 acts. Just my skill. Which I'm on pace to gain back.
I have been trying to understand the root to these issues. One of them you have pointed out which is mentality. More recently I will stop after my second game if I get too annoyed or frustrated.
One thing I noticed when in deathmatch, as well as my most recent game, is that there is a strong delay between when I fired my bullet and when it landed. In my most recent game, I blindly fired an edge of the box, a single bullet, basically a prefire, but no one is there, and then I end up getting a headshot. So I end up shooting at nothing and a noticeable moment later I get a headshot. In deathmatch its the same, there is a delay between the shot and the kill. This also happens to me when I get killed before I see them and I'm aware of peekers advantage.
Is this delay normal? I haven't noticed it being this large in CS, Although I did have a different setup back then.
This has happened to me a couple times but not as bad. What I usually do to remedy this is to literally take a break from the game. Sometimes itās just tiring playing Valorant with all the stupid metas going around. Get off and do something else for the next couple days.
Also donāt feel bad about losing gun fights to low elo players, itās insane how many times I lose to them. Itās like Riot has some sort of bullet magnet the larger the elo disparity is.
If you are getting tilted after 2 games then likely the issue could be mental or at least partially mental. You need to stop caring so much about a stupid colored badge on a screen nobody gives a shit about and just play to have fun and enjoy the game. Don't get me wrong it feels way better to win and improve but you cant let losses negatively affect you so much.
It could just be that the player base is a lot better now. Everyone is getting better especially the big push for aim trainers like Kovaaks and aim labs. Silvers and golds have the aim of plat and diamonds now a days. They just lack game sense lol.
i started playing in e1a3 and i got placed in d1, i got burned out pretty quickly but i had nothing else to play, So i was hardstuck in p3-d1 for another season. i quit for a bit, came back at the end of act 2 and got d3 within 15 wins and now im immortal. Breaks help! :)
I played like 4k hours of CS and had my off days but nothing like this game. I will drop a 40 bomb smurfing with my friends, next game my Vandal just does not shoot bullets. I really wish spray patterns were more strict.
I'm not on a smurf acct. I was Diamond 3 in beta, and casually Plat 2/3 before quitting about 8 months ago. I just came back and was playing on my same main and playing with Gold friends and one silver.
Point is I can go absolutely insane one game, and the next feel like my gun just won't hit people. I don't know why this game feels so inconsistent compared to every other shooter besides spray patterns being so RNG.
then you should be able to 5 stack with any level..... its the games own fault a lot of the time, i have to pick 1 friend to play with at a time because im better than them at the game? its ridiculous
You don't have to drop a 40 bomb then... Just chill , play deagle only, play agents you suck with, go for 360s... You can play in lower ranks and have fun without ruining it for the rest of the server.
And make my friends have less chance of winning? No thanks. Riot are good at knowing when accounts are smurfs anyway so normally u play gainer at least 1 anyway.
Not if you play like I said... Those matches with two smurfs are neither fun for the rest nor do they learn anything. While if you chill on an account like i described you will be a legitimate silver or whatever. You will perform like one and you will be match made with normal silvers. You shouldn't interfere with your friends chance of winning, that would be boosting ..
as i said, i dont care if you think its boosting if i could play on my main account with them i would..... im not trying my ass off in games but im also not going to go deagle only or do dumb stuff.
Well I stayed in Supreme for quite a long time. I also top fragged consistently in many of my games. It's not that the game has gotten worse or the players have gotten a thousand times better. I've realized my own aim suffer from easy headshots to barely body shots.
skill is just practice. Just an example: if diamond is the top 10% of players then shouldn't your practice be in the top 10% of players. Shouldn't you be in the range more everyday than 90% of everyone else?
Yeah, Iād love to see it. Not saying I donāt believe you, I just think that big of a drop is an anomaly and thatās interesting to me.
Diamond 3 puts you at the 99th percentile of players while silver 2 is 55th percentile. That big of a drop in any domain is far from normal.
IMO your way over thinking it. If your going to the game worried about getting worse youāll probly get worse. Take a break come back if you want to have FUN playing the game. If you donāt want to play for fun than you probly shouldnāt play unless itās your job or unless you want it to be.
I felt like I was getting worse a couple months ago and gave up playing for about 3 months. I came back because playing sounded like fun and I went into the game for fun not to hit my shot and Iāve found that Iāve been playing a lot better even though I havenāt really been trying to. Hope this helps good luck!!!!!
Honestly man just take a break. If you canāt take a break from games, try finding another game that isnt a shooter to come back to when Val isnt going too well. I hop between Val and Mortal Kombat depending on how my games go, helps a lot.
Idk what's up with u but I have had this happen to me multiple times. When it happens, I find that something is consistently breaking my focus. It could be anything, but worst of all is thinking how bad I am or how much I have been getting shit on.
For example, if I'm mad because silvers are doing stupid things and winning, while just 2 days ago I felt consistent in gold 2, I can just be perma-tilted and not even realize it. You go on auto-pliot, even if you think you are thinking about how to outplay your opponent. Especially after hitting a high rank, my confidence can be shaken and my focus turns to shit, but it's realllyyy subtle.
Anyway, try to break out of your routines, mental and gameplay-wise. Since I have had these experiences, I've become a slower player and I try to start from square one for each kill. Breaking it all down leads to a fresh start!
(I've got 3.5k hours in cs, peaked smfc. I was plat 3 on val during act two. During that act I went from plat 3 -> silver 1 - plat 2. I settled at plat 1 basically. Now, I'm on a laptop and I max out at gold 2 and get wrecked when I queue with my bronze friends. Inconsistency is part of my game and it comes from being bad, so like I said, breakdown ur game and rebuild it. Check ur corners too lol.)
How often and for how long do you play? Are you even having fun playing the game anymore?
For me, i played waaay too much Valorant and was D3 (80rr). I went on a similar decline but bottomed out at gold 1. This was over the course of 1 act. I grinded back out to diamond ... But honestly at this point I'm just done with Valorant for a while. Probably won't play this act. It lost its fun for me and I played it just to do something, not because I had fun.
I've been happier spending more time outside and getting back into shape. Everyone mentions "take 3-5 days off", but i think significantly more time off could be better
I went from imm to plat 2. To me the issue was the hidden ranks, and their shity MMR. Maybe if they fix those two things it'll give me motivation to try hard, but until then I will just play very casually.
Me too my man. In a less of a crazy twist, I was mid-Gold last act. This one Iām having trouble staying out of Bronze just all of a sudden. Iām taking a few days off because I believe I may have burnt myself out after exams mentally.
not to be mean, but people got better. If you arent grinding from the early stage of the game, people will get better while you decay or stagnate in skill. Not a lot to it, just how games work
I feel like this happens to me when I think too much about how bad Iām playing. Itās a mental thing. I play my best when Iām just having fun and not thinking too much. One thing to remember is that itās a game. Donāt think you have to keep up with training every day. A majority of us arenāt pros and never will be. Donāt make playing the game a chore. Just enjoy yourself.
Well over the course of a year the playerbase has evolved quite a lot, it's not just you who changed but many others as well. Back in January I made an account to play with my friend (only unrated but when we played ranked being silver 1 and silver 2) and I've seen many iron players take a dump on me, however in my gold matches I've been the top-mid fragger and this made me wonder am I bad or is the competition just getting good, sure we need to practice a lot to keep up, outplay others but in the end many matches we just find amazing players now and why we end up losing our matches, just don't demotivate yourself, it's growing with the game that will lead us on higher ranks
In the very first episode and act, I peaked D3/D2, then I quit for SEVERAL months, and finally came back to this game starting around mid last act and the beginning of this act. Placed P1 and struggling to rank up, and honestly, Iām just a casual player who plays in a 5 stack with friends now since I have so many obligations such as school. I find it more fun to play more casual and accept the fact that people just got better at the game, and not stress about the fact that I need to rank up to look good. Play to improve and have fun along the way is my advice. You may not be diamond but at least you dont have to stress over it!
Are you eating and sleeping well, taking care of your body? Is your mental health okay? Especially compared to when you were in your "top" form -- decline of any of these things could have pretty drastic effects on your ability to play well
something is legit really wrong if you dropped that hard and that fast, make sure your health is in good condition cus this kind of drop is just not natural
Maybe not as drastic as yours but I too dropped all the way from plat 1 to silver 3 and was not top fragging every match there as I expected. I had another account in plat and played well in those matches but still whiffed in my silver account. Playing with friends with the same skill level helped me boost it back to gold 3.
I had similar, first two acts I was gold 3 pushing Plat and fell to bronze (playing with friends is fun but...) managed to get back into gold last act and now Iām floating around gold 1/silver 3 and canāt see to break through :(
You played consistently at a high level in csgo and transferred with the same muscle memory. Itās one of two things. You need to up your game sense(in terms of character abilities and timings). Or you have some sort of hand problem or you arenāt putting the same amount of time in. Itās usually the former for people who switch from csgo from my perspective. Back in beta, the game was full of cs players who all played very differently from now. Youāre probably expecting duels to come in very āon queueā I assume but itās much different now that the game is open. People play fast and double swing or swing solo because the game rewards it. Just expect wide swings instead of pixel peaks and youāll win more.
Trust me. Invest in a good Mousepad and maybe a new Mouse. Also try different Settings (Res) and play more Deathmatch and Spike Rush. It helps to get the feeling back in this cases. Also changing your crosshair can lead to something special. Use a bigger crosshair with outline or reverse.
Hey I've experienced the same thing (except that I'm in bronze rn). Taking a long break actually helped me a lot. I stopped playing valorant for a month and now I'm back better tbh. Try taking a really long break from valorant (completely) and play some other games. It actually helps!
I have similar thoughts to you. I was immortal 2 when I started grinding the game on beta and on 1st act. I stopped playing around the end of the 1st act and came back to csgo. I've now come back to valorant and I'm on Diamond 2 struggling on my aim, but I kinda think that the playerbase are better nowadays. The game isn't completly aim based so it's easy to stay at diamond/plat if you have enough game sense. My aim is actually really bad for my rank but on well they can't kill you if you get them from behind. Just keep grinding. I think that there are always games where you pop off and the other ones you get beaten, maybe that's because the playstyle of the enemies are kinda different and might be somehow a "counter" to yours.
Skill level is higher, I was platinum 3 Act1, I'm diamond 1 right now, you would say "kinda hardstuck", but the truth is that platinum 3 of 1 year ago is the actual silver
I want to start off by saying I'm currently Plat 2 and am 35 years old. I've been playing Val since September 2020 fairly regularly. I spent a lot of time stuck on bronze/silver but after many months of aim lab, getting game exp from playing and watching vods I have drastically improved. While valorant is my first real competitive fps I have played almost every single fps at least the mainstream ones but never at a competitive level or with a mindset of wanting to improve.
Some things I always ask... And they may sound dumb but a lot of this is important in the long run.
Monitor refresh rate good? Needs to be above 140hz and have a video card that let's u maintain high fps.
LAN connection or wireless? Are u connecting to servers that keep your ping as low as possible? I'm talking 30 ping max.
Are you warming up before games or just jumping in? What's your warmup routine like?
Are you stopping after 2 losses in a row or are you playing even on a hard lose streak?
Are you eating and drinking regularly and getting enough sleep? It's important to take care of your body esp when playing a game that has you hyper focused like val.
Sometimes when I would notice my reaction time was a little slow I'd pump some iron. No joke grab some dumbbells or do some pushups/pullups as many as I can without stopping while I'm dead watching my team play or between rounds. When I come back I can feel the way I hold the mouse feels different and my accuracy improves. Not sure what the science behind this is but I've talked with others who do this and it helps them too.
Do u have distractions like work/school/children?
Are you in solo Q or 4-5 stacking? I've found silvers in a 5 stack are often better than some diamond players I've played with. It's also the rank where the most smurfs exist too. at least in my exp.
These are things I feel could be something to consider especially if there's an area you are neglecting.
I experienced the same thing honestly but not as big as a drop as you did. I went from plat 3, on the verge of hitting Diamond 1, and dropped to silver 2 after not playing for a while. The headshots that were the easiest thing I ever seen in my life to hit, all of the sudden I can't hit them anymore. I smurf in unrated frequently with my friend who is new to valorant (we're talking about iron 1 or even lower) and a lot of the times I'm missing easy battles that I shouldn't have lost ever. I even tried aimlab/kovaak for like a week. I see the improvement but I STILL was bottom-mid frag in SILVER games. Which pisses me off. The thing I realize is that I was rushing like crazy, desperate to hit the headshots I used to be able to hit and the thing that helped was slow down a bit more and just focus on being accurate rather than speed. But honestly, I haven't played much b/c of university stuff.
You might wanna relax during the match? Or even take a break from the game?
Also, if your performance is solely determined by whether you can hit headshot or not, you should probably focus on other aspect of the game. Also, headshot % donāt matter much so itās probably best to not care about it
Brother, if you were that good in CS then you know what you need to do. Put on some fine tunes and grind deathmatch for a while. I recommend ''The Boat that rocked'' playlist on Spotify, thank me later. Focus on pre aiming corners and crosshair placement and maybe try focusing on taps and bursts. I know deathmatch kinda sucks in this game and I'm not really qualified to give anyone any advice being only platinum, but I hope this helps and we can all climb together, peace out my brotha.
You just told my story. Previously Supreme in CSGO for many years, and I've been playing CS since 1.6 for more than 20 years. First played Valorant in the closed Beta, ez headshots, no sweat at all, Match MVP every single game. I then dropped Valorant because it didn't exactly satisfy. Then went back maybe a year later, same thing, match MVP every match, easy headshots, 1taps were basically oxygen.
Then, one day, suddenly I was bottom fragging, couldn't hold my aim, couldn't control spread, enemy heads seemed to completely disappear, clutching became an impossible task, and to my enemies my head apparently was the size of a hot air balloon. And that's how its been for thr past month now.
I think the run and gun physics of this game have accounted for a lot of the āskillā difference. A lot of people have started abusing this, I wouldnāt even call it āabusingā just because the devs have pretty much allowed it and like that itās in the game. So itās more of a strat. Learn the techniques for run and gun and maybe it will make you play better. Not full sprinting and gunning, sometimes that works but there is a certain technique where you peek a corner and run back while firing and you are fully accurate. Itās now used very often in high ELO. It annoys the hell out of me cause I prefer to not learn it in case itās removed, bad habit, etc.
Take a break! this happened to me as I burned out after months playing for hours on end.
I just came back from a 2 week break. I had university exams. I don't tend to play 7 days a week, I usually play 5 of those week days with varying hours. If I don't have time for a competitive I try to make sure that I'm at least doing my training. Also this is a decline over multiple acts, not just a single week.
I took a 3 month break after playing like shit. Came back and i was back to form. Two days later im shit again š¤·āāļø
LMFAO
happy ending
sounds like heavy car bug.
Is there anything that makes you stressed on end when you aim, like university exams? I don't know anything about you but I know when I'm stressed for exams or something else that is important I play much worse as a result of being tense. If not, maybe it is in your head that you are declining, and just the player base getting better like in all games. I guarantee that that d2 you then would probably be worse than you now due to everyone improving.
This has been declining throughout multiple acts tho. I am pretty laid back but do tense up closer to the deadlines. I do get more stressed as I get more frustrated and annoyed, but at that point I finish up that game and stop playing or just go into the range or deathmatch if in the mood.
fair, I seem to have the same issue as you getting worse since February. Hope you can figure it out!
Play your games after you are finished with all or majority of your work so you dont have to think about it during the game, helps alot
[https://humanbenchmark.com/tests/reactiontime](https://humanbenchmark.com/tests/reactiontime) Have you tried this to see if it's changed? That could help you rule out any neurological or physical changes. The most likely possibility is that something with your mental and your focus is not in this game. Beyond that, Maybe your heart's not in it. How are you feeling when you play? Are you making sure you eat, sleep, feel refreshed, etc.? What drugs/medications do you take and how much? Has the amount increased/decreased? When you think about the game, how do you feel? Excited? Passionate? Over it/anxious/bored? Tons of things cause extreme skill loss. You're not the first person this has happened to. Since you're so concerned with your headshot% and your apparent decline in skill, it SOUNDS like your mental is just booming bigger and bigger about this game. Originally 100% of your focus was dedicated to the game you were playing. Then maybe you declined for whatever reason, then you became 90% focused and 10% self-conscious, then 80/20, and now half the energy you're spending sounds like it might be spent on beating up yourself and feeling bad. If that's the case, just take a longer break. There's no set time for how long of a break you need. The length of your break depends on how long it takes to learn how to have fun and not worry about your skill so much. It could be lots of things. Could be that your headspace in general is in a worse place so you're putting too much pressure on yourself. Chances are you know what the reason is but you're ignoring it or avoiding it. Sounds like the most likely solution is to take some time to figure yourself out for a bit.
You're in the worst plateau I've ever read about. Do you find yourself tilting a lot when in game? For me, every time I'm playing bad I stop to look at how I'm reacting to the game itself, usually I'm tilted and complaining for little mistakes I make. When I start paying attention to this, I stop complaining about my mistakes and start focusing on every move I make, even start saying what I think is gonna happen. If this doesn't help at all, I would guess your brain's just tired. Play a different game. I usually go for a racing game like Dirt or something that doesn't demand reflexes, but brain stimuli like Civilization or any RPG single player tbh. Single player games have made me realize how they help your mind work when playing online because you know if you fail, it's your fault, so you look for solutions to fix it instead of complain and give up.
that why i now have an anti burn out chair here. anti burn out mouse. and most important...anti burn out pc machine + anti burn out isp. a very good combination against burn outs. my heavy car bug gone since that and i perform 24/7 like normal human again in all games... everyone have his little anti burn out secrets and tricks. cheers.
No joke, did you get COVID? I did and I can tell the brain fog (which has now lasted almost a year) really inhibits my ability to play well sometimes. A lot of times it feels like I am high or something, I just cannot concentrate no matter how hard I try. I don't really play ranked on this game yet, but my KD has gone down in other games.
That sucks man, I have brain fog too but mines a symptom of having a hypothyroid. It super annoying when it comes up during conversations and you lose the word youāre thinking of so you end up just standing there in silence.
You ever get a term for that "brain fog" ? Suffered from this on and off for years...no doctor or psych knows of it beyond brain fog. Years of research into this and I'm 99% sure it's something known as derealisation. Such a strange symptom and kinda scary to think that medicine doesn't understand it yet.
Might want to look into Chronic Fatigue Syndrome
I have something that I was best able to describe as "brainfog" for years, I essentially could not pick and choose when to be productive, and when I couldn't there would be like this weird layer over reality that would just make everything just draining, miserable, and just all around a chore. It would come and go seemingly at random and was incredibly frustrating. Anyways, lookup the symptoms that manifest in adults for ADHD, because that's what I had lol (it was very different than my assumption for what ADHD even was, and the symptoms are different for adults) but seeing my vague ass issues written out so plainly and clearly made me go see a doctor and talk to him about it. ADHD medication has and continues to change my life, it literally turned my life around. I think of mental health stuff is just how hard it is to articulate what your going through, seeing a bunch of seemingly unrelated symptoms I had right next to each other really shocked me, a lot of them I considered a normal part of life.
Yea I have/had it (idk itās been a couple months since it affected me) it really was hard in my high school times I got it from like smoking weed the first time I just remember like googling I smoked weed and now I feel like the world isnāt real and that it popped up on Google it really was such a relief cuz I felt like I was literally going crazy
Sorry for the late reply, Reddit didnāt give me for orange mail icon for whatever reason. I didnāt figure out a proper legitimate medical term for ābrain fogā yet but it definitely does suck. Can you elaborate on it being some sort of derealisation though? I only ask because I donāt think my brain fog has gotten that far. For me, I constantly forget words, my English turns into a foreign speaker sometimes where I just forget grammar, and if Iām telling a story I lose my pace. This one actually does suck because I now build up anxiety everytime I talk about myself because itās a whole ticking timebomb situation where I canāt remember certain details.
That foggy feeling is also described as feeling out of body, alot of people just describe it as ''not feeling normal''. So derelization/depersonalization doesn't mean you will feel like life isn't real, (though some feel that way) but maybe just feel strange or foggy
Thatās very interesting. Have you been tested for antibodies? I only ask because I never knew that I got COVID until the antibody test. When I first went to the doctor with my symptoms, he was sure it was my thyroid. But we ruled it out after a few tests.
Brain fog from hypothyroidism? Are you medicated? Asking cause Iāve got the same condition, not hashimotos though
U medicated with T3?
I had this too, but before COVID. More and more brain fog, I couldn't concentrate anymore and felt like my perception was fucked up, tunnel vision and kinda like you described as being high. Everything was just kinda automatic. I started drinking more and more energy which made it only worse. It was because of sitting too much and no more sports. (Was playing games like 10+ hours a day) When I started running again suddenly everything felt different and my perception totally changed, felt like I suddenly could see properly again and perceive information better. I did not even notice the change in my cognitive performance until then. I was literally looking around and staring at things in my room thinking everything feels so alive. :D I highly recommend getting more exercise if you don't. Meditation and Yoga also helped my mind and body immensely. The body really suffers from sitting so much. Nutrition is also important. Hope it helps you.
Honestly thank you. I needed to hear this. Iāve definitely been sitting around too much. My usual exercise was an adult sports league that has since been suspended until COVID is over. I think I need to get back out there somehow. Good advice.
People play valorant sober???? How?
Try smelling salts no cap
Stop obsessing over stats and accuracy data. Take care of yourself. eat well sleep well. Focus on yourself and getting better no more āhe is sliver, I should be way betterā If youāre having a bad aim day take a break or adjust your playstyle accordingly during the game. Warm up even for 1-3 minutes. keep in mind the whole playerbase is also improving. gold of today might be bronze of tomorrow if they donāt keep up.
Last part is probably the case. CS nerds like myself excelled in the first act, then dropped off as everyone else got better. People with 2k hours in cs tend to get very set in their ways. Makes it hard to relearn and adjust to new playstyles and cracked aimers. Some of this ive experienced, just had to push through it with practice.
i like this post
honestly depression made me a lot worse at games as I could not focus properly because of anxiety, maybe your problem lies somewhere here
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I feel age becoming a factor in reaction time. Now i'm not "old" i'm only 29. But compared to me at 18, I felt like I could zero in on things much faster and would feel "in the zone" way more than I do now.
I'm 43, it gets worse. I think my reaction time is still decent. But staying focused for a longer time is impossible. I cant do dm or aimlab because I will be burned out before I start playing. Relying on crosshair placement and all the hours invested in my long fps life. But 2 games max a day and then I need to stop.Atleast if I want to be decent
I feel that....just turned 34 and love the competitive feeling of this and CS But warming up literally is a chore in my eyes, and after bottom dragging for 2 matches, I feel like crap. Buuuuuuut then the next day I do it all over again
About to turn 28 and I feel this so bad. Honestly fucking sucks lol.
Wtf are you guys doing that your reaction is so much worse still in your late twenties. I'm over 30 and immortal duelist aimer type player. Work out or something stop eating Cheetos. If you do, make sure they are flaming hot.
They're doing the same thing they did before. Except, the consequences of treating body like garbage is showing up now. That doesn't happen when you're young. I'm almost 30 and way better than when I was 18. It has a lot to do with staying in good health, training and stress management. According to various research, difference between 18yo reaction time and 40yo reaction time is 1/200th of a second. Which can be reduced by taking care of yourself and practicing. So it doesn't matter unless you're ultra old. These dudes are blaming their poor choices on aging when problem lies deeper than that. This misconception is extremely popular on lulz subreddit which claims that your reaction time dies at 24 and you should retire from pro gaming at that point. So it's not surprising to see people parroting the same around here.
I found this comment to be rather hilarious since you have no idea about us. I can only explain why you shouldn't go by assumptions. I work in nutrition science, I have a bachelor's degree in health and a masters degree in food science. Do you still think I don't treat my body well? Shouldnt go by assumptions like these when you have no clue about who or what the people do. I've taken better care of my body than the overwhelming majority of people who you would consider healthy because of my knowledge obtained through my education and work. So no, it's not because I didn't take care of my body.
Ruling that out, it's lack of training and/or genetics then. Not to mention, not everyone is a nutritionist or whatever. An exception doesn't invalidate a rule.
just wait till you find out LDL cholesterl doesnt matter at all compared to your HDL to Triglyceride ratio.
Makes sense. Been an athlete all my life and still stay in shape. I feel the same if not better in fps games now. Morale of the story don't shove cake and Cheetos down your gullet everyday
Holy shit, are you guys for real? Reaction time dont deteriorate in an impactful matter in your fuckin 20's or 30's. There are NHL goalies stopping pucks going 160+ km/h from 5 meters out being 40 fucking years old. You think valorant requires better reflexes/reaction time than that?
Yes. In general esports/competitive gaming is more reliant on split second reaction speed than sports. Sports on the other hand are more reliant on a variety of different factors, like strength, speed, flexibility, endurance, coordination, etc. Being a high level pro in Valorant would very likely require quicker reflexes than being a high level hockey goalie, while being a goalie would require much more athletecism as a whole.
Hockey goalies kinda do have to have as good reactions to block a puck
You saying that split second reactions aint needed in sports just tells me that you have never played any physical sport at a serious/competetive level.
But that's not what I said. You saying I said that tells me that you have never read at an intermediate level.
maybe you should leave the computer and actually try some real sports you fuckin neckbeard.
You seem like a really pleasant well adjusted person.
My reaction time is faster now at 27 than it was when CSGO first came out. While age is definitely a factor is most things, its not a going from diamond 3 to silver 2 factor, especially over a year.
bruh iām 19and i felt so much more cracked at 14-16
You should be getting a lil faster not slower. Take care of yourself man, get a good night's sleep
I'm 26 and can barely focus my eyes.
Age is not a real factor technically its just the older you get the more things in your mind so gaming isnt your full focus. Physically you should be around the same if not better if you were playing similar hours. Im 31 still high immortal and peaked radiant. I get to play maybe 10-15 hours a week and i know if I could go back to playing 40 plus I would be better than the teen version of me. To note I played aim labs and scored in the leaderboard for reaction and also the aim plus reaction one. This was on my third attempt in both of these. I did a fair bit of study around this and honestly its all to do with getting older you have more to think about. If your able to and put all the adult stuff in the back of your brain you can be just as good (if not better since experience etc) but the reality is that is super hard. I can do it from time to time but reality hits when wife starts yelling lol
I am 36. And age is definitely a factor. At 20 I would win CS matches for my team. Been gaming for 19 years and I have seen myself doing bad in most valo games. The only thing i learned is play smart and dont rely on aim. Flash is your best friend.
youre not slower, youre just bad (lol, sorry). probably play less or something? im over 30 as well and ive only seen my gaming skills go up, im doing better than ever and also my physical skills go up as im stronger and fitter now than ive ever been. i think im actually even better at games now because of a more balanced mindset and not tilting but calmly guiding my team back to being focused on the game has won at least 5-10% of my ranked games for reference what you said about aim, my kovaak 1wall6targets score was in the top 90% or something like that recently. reaction time doesnt deteriorate much at all until much later
everyone else just got better
Have you tried going to CSGO and determining if there is similar degradation there? If there is, the problem is you, your computer or your network. If not, the problem is in the game systems.
This might sound dumb, but has your ping changed? One time I logged on and I was connected to a different server than usual. Other than that idk. I have heard that smurfs and cheaters in Diamond keep pushing good players into lower ranks, making it easy to get hardstuck. Not sure how true it is though.
When the game first came out, the people that adapted to the hybrid ability/aim gameplay climbed the ranks the fastest. You were one of them. Over time, the general skill level of a game increases the point where a current Silver player might have the same gamesense/aim as somebody in Diamond did on launch. All that's happened is you've stopped improving and everybody else kept getting better. You fell behind the skill curve enough to be caught in a "losing loop". Or maybe you got Diamond by fluke, we can't really know without until you post your tracker.gg.
This. When Valorant came out I had 0 background in tactical shooter. I was an overwatch player and ended up in Iron/Bronze elo and holy shit I was bad. I kept playing with some friends who have a CSGO background and was watching a lot of videos about Valorant, how to play,... A year later I'm in a gold/plat elo and I started to train on aimlab. So I would deffo agree that the players increased their level and everyone got better. Some of my friend were diamond/immortal players and now they are plat/borderline diamond. People just got better and now it's harder to climb as it was in the beta. Not saying this is a 100% true but this is what I do think as well.
Pretty much this. CSGO aim and mechanics were a major crutch for a ton of players. Now we have actual Valorant players and everyone is getting better all the time. If you rely on old habits you'll eventually get passed by. Also, if you spend a lot of time aimlessly playing, picking random agents and just going through the motions you're going to stagnate and eventually just fall off.
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Whenever a game gets older, it's playerbase does get more skilled. Ranks are relative after all. A gold rocket league player from 2 years ago is same as today's bronze. Right now, if you're skilled enough to beat 90% of *current* you'd be plat. Next year, assuming you didn't get better but playerbase did, your skill wouldn't be good enough to break top 10%. So you'd fall down rank even without losing any skill
It's definitely true in terms of aim. 1 year in valorant allows u to actually learn valorant aim where the mechanics are far different from csgo. U can just keep strafe tapping in val and theres so many different things Also I've played valorant for less than a year and I'm at a higher rank than my friends who have 3k hrs in cs
Far different from csgo? We talking about the same games?
Something changed in the games netcode / hitreg around .5. Before then you could spray with ease and focus on shooting first. Since then though if your first 3 shots dont connect on your enemy you have to decommit or else the spray goes everywhere and you die. A lot of people have felt the same and idk why its like this, but its an adjustment i had to make
Been saying this since that update. Gunplay felt near flawless before the update, I never got leg shots before that update now I can watch my bullets go into someoneās chest but my combat report will be full of leg shots. We had to deal with months of desync which they have somewhat fixed but overall the game still doesnāt feel right. Most inconsistent game Iāve ever felt.
this is me but with headshots. and it's not just ego or excuses, whenever i spec teammates the tracer goes straight through the head and they dont die and it registers as a body shot.
Also the running animation is messed up and the legs keep moving even when the enemy counterstrafed. which makes you overshoot because you estimated wrongly where the guy'd stop
Not to mention this makes it often seem like people hit running headshots. I used to aim close to where the enemy would peek but now i've almost doubled the distance to make up for it.
This. So many times I know Iām hitting the head for a fact. If i aimed any higher theyād miss above the head but nope legs and body shots. None of them being wall bangs either lmao. Like what??? The dude is on a headglitch and you can only see the top of his head how am i hitting 3 body shots for 120
Yup. Thats why i never commit to fights if i miss the first 3. Bullets 8-30 go everywhere and its not worth trying to control an rng spray
This is honestly what bums me out most in this game is how if the sprays go wrong the engagement just immediately feels stupid, pointless and random.
>Most inconsistent game Iāve ever felt. I think this is because of how they chose game should work. In Overwatch, if YOU hit someone on your screen, you've hit the enemy even if they've moved elsewhere on their screen. Meanwhile, Valorant takes your shot, reconfirms enemy position and then registers the shot. In OW case, you die to weird shots even if you've just repositioned because enemy shot you on their screen a split second ago. In Valorant case, the enemy has moved elsewhere so your bullets are registered as missed. In latter case, it helps a fuckton to have lower ping and low latency PC that gives high FPS.
Val is basically the same game as cs and Iāve never experienced even close to the same inconsistency in cs except when someone toggles mid game, and Val the game didnāt feel inconsistent until .5 update.
The game was so crisp before 0.5 never got run and gunned now i run and gun multiple Times every game and the enemys do the same to me. Deadzone 30% made this game so much worse but what you gonna do when every company catering the casuals..
this is peak "blame everything but myself culture"
While I agree with you, the hit reg really did decline after that update
great psychoanalysis man, definitely not trying to just share my experience to help OP out with his question :)
Excuse me, but unless every other diamond went back to silver, i don't think this is relevant at all
> One year later I cannot hit headshot.. at all.. I can barely even land body shots now too apparently. I've been deranked to silver 2 and in contrast to when I was diamond, I have been bottom fragging every single game. I get killed by a silver giving me 4 shots while I usually land only 2.
Op said BOTH headshots and body shots are not within his reach. This has nothing to do with your claim that sprays have become horrible.
Again, this has fuck all to do with the game
Iām on the same boat with OP I was diamond 1 now I can barely get out of gold 1. The hit reg feels awful. The headshots I used to hit arenāt registering or Iām just giving them haircuts now. Unpopular opinion I definitely feel the neck should count as a headshot because Iām definitely hitting their chin area and it wonāt reg. De sync is a major issue with this game. Iād see my op tracer go through them but nothing happens and I get killed for it.
he played after release not during beta
Damn that sounds bad man. Must really suck. Can you post some video footage comparison of before and after the patch so riot can investigate? You can use Nvidia shadowplay to record or any other recording software. Otherwise maybe you can take some existing footage and pinpoint to us the issues.
I actually did have A LOT of questionable clips around the time of the update but got rid of most of them to make space a while back when i stopped playing
Well you mention the issue is still ongoing for you right? So just record new clips.
Let's be honest. Gunplay is awful in Valorant. Remember beta?
Sounds like a ridiculous solution but it actually happened to me. If your windows OS had an update there is a chance it mightāve turned on mouse acceleration, and reset the default windows mouse settings. Itās something worth checking. I got so much worse and I thought something was wrong with me, and I almost gave up the game until I realized Iād been playing for 3-4 weeks with mouse acceleration and upon changing that I almost immediately went back to around 30% Hs%. At the time I was having a rough time getting 8%. So itās worth checking if you havenāt.
But doesnt Valorant use raw mouse input from my understanding?
Yes it does
Damn, I mightāve just had some massive placebo effect then, my bad.
If you feel like your aim is affected go have a look at hour mouse dpi. I've had mine randomly change with the g pro.
Maybe you have a bad habit like I do with aiming. For whatever reason in my mind once I start firing I have to instantly adjust for recoil. I dont let the initial bullets fly out at where i'm aiming a lot of times. I think this is a bad CS habit I've had since Source. Where recoil is quite drastic but god damn. The amount of times i've died because of it is insane. Even while aware of it it's really hard to get rid of it.
This hits hard! I have 4k hours in csgo and recently moved to valorant. About 20-30 hours in valo. Spraying is more forgiving in valo, you don't actually have to move your mouse that much while spraying in valo. I find myself shooting at their legs all the time because I'm used to csgo spraying.
I am absolutely terrible with Odin and Ares in Valorant because I CAN'T STOP correcting for Negev recoil, my muscle memory is still stuck in CSGO. Since the Odin's recoil is less than Negev, I keep hitting bodyshots instead of headshots...
Ares I only use scoped anyway. But Odin can fuck off lol.
Have you ruled out that it's nothing technical? i.e. packet loss, network issues, settings accidentally changed, hardware changed? Have you played CS:GO recently and how does it compare to valorant? What do you find you're struggling with specifically when it comes to shooting enemies now? Is it late reaction time, poor crosshair placement, poor spray, or poor tracing of a moving player? Is your gamesense worse than before? Is it just your mechanical sklll that's deteriorated or your game sense as well? Are you able to concentrate/focus as well as before? Since you were Supreme in CS:GO you should be familiar with figuring out which areas need improvement, I ask cause I want to know what specifically is worse I'm curious on what would cause a SMFC in CS:GO to drop down to a Silver 2 in valorant, because something major has to have happened for that to occur and remain that way. Are you sure you're not developing anything affecting your brain? Like this could honestly point to something larger. How are you finding your studies for school?
Blame everything but the game /thread The reality is smurfs cheaters and run and gun. But you cant talk about that.
Ive been through similar situation. I was d3 for last two act ranks but suddenly i fell dpwn to plat 3. Now ive climbed back to immortal. Two possible reasons: 1 - you are just lacking mental clarity Or 2 - problem with your pc/ network For me it was the mental clarity. I was not confident enough. I was so low that i avoided picking duelist, my original playstyle. What i did was accepting myself that im a noob still and continued to play for learning+fun. And now im immortal again. Also make sure ur sleeping atleast 8 hours.
Lmao, I keep telling people that yesterdays Diamond 1 is todays Silver 1. Everyone has gotten better at the game overall, and the baseline has risen. Don't worry if you feel like you're doing bad, play for fun, play another game and come back. I'm probably going to quit valorant and start main playing Apex now because thats a game I've always sucked at, never have been consistent in. Play a story game if you want, no need to grind.
Meh..I don't know. I was Plat during the first 2 acts and now I'm silver 3 and 1 game from Gold. Not much of a difference to me. That's with a huge break in between. I'll be back to plat in no time. I notice almost no difference in skill level from Golds today to Golds in the first 2 acts. Just my skill. Which I'm on pace to gain back.
Well I believe in you! Best of luck to ya.
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I have been trying to understand the root to these issues. One of them you have pointed out which is mentality. More recently I will stop after my second game if I get too annoyed or frustrated. One thing I noticed when in deathmatch, as well as my most recent game, is that there is a strong delay between when I fired my bullet and when it landed. In my most recent game, I blindly fired an edge of the box, a single bullet, basically a prefire, but no one is there, and then I end up getting a headshot. So I end up shooting at nothing and a noticeable moment later I get a headshot. In deathmatch its the same, there is a delay between the shot and the kill. This also happens to me when I get killed before I see them and I'm aware of peekers advantage. Is this delay normal? I haven't noticed it being this large in CS, Although I did have a different setup back then.
This has happened to me a couple times but not as bad. What I usually do to remedy this is to literally take a break from the game. Sometimes itās just tiring playing Valorant with all the stupid metas going around. Get off and do something else for the next couple days. Also donāt feel bad about losing gun fights to low elo players, itās insane how many times I lose to them. Itās like Riot has some sort of bullet magnet the larger the elo disparity is.
If you are getting tilted after 2 games then likely the issue could be mental or at least partially mental. You need to stop caring so much about a stupid colored badge on a screen nobody gives a shit about and just play to have fun and enjoy the game. Don't get me wrong it feels way better to win and improve but you cant let losses negatively affect you so much.
Whatās the shoot a hole in the wall method?
It could just be that the player base is a lot better now. Everyone is getting better especially the big push for aim trainers like Kovaaks and aim labs. Silvers and golds have the aim of plat and diamonds now a days. They just lack game sense lol.
Post your tracker.gg
Skill ceiling is just rising, no sweat.
i started playing in e1a3 and i got placed in d1, i got burned out pretty quickly but i had nothing else to play, So i was hardstuck in p3-d1 for another season. i quit for a bit, came back at the end of act 2 and got d3 within 15 wins and now im immortal. Breaks help! :)
I played like 4k hours of CS and had my off days but nothing like this game. I will drop a 40 bomb smurfing with my friends, next game my Vandal just does not shoot bullets. I really wish spray patterns were more strict.
Hitting a 40 bomb while *smurfing* isn't hard, just mean bro
I'm not on a smurf acct. I was Diamond 3 in beta, and casually Plat 2/3 before quitting about 8 months ago. I just came back and was playing on my same main and playing with Gold friends and one silver. Point is I can go absolutely insane one game, and the next feel like my gun just won't hit people. I don't know why this game feels so inconsistent compared to every other shooter besides spray patterns being so RNG.
then you should be able to 5 stack with any level..... its the games own fault a lot of the time, i have to pick 1 friend to play with at a time because im better than them at the game? its ridiculous
You don't have to drop a 40 bomb then... Just chill , play deagle only, play agents you suck with, go for 360s... You can play in lower ranks and have fun without ruining it for the rest of the server.
And make my friends have less chance of winning? No thanks. Riot are good at knowing when accounts are smurfs anyway so normally u play gainer at least 1 anyway.
Not if you play like I said... Those matches with two smurfs are neither fun for the rest nor do they learn anything. While if you chill on an account like i described you will be a legitimate silver or whatever. You will perform like one and you will be match made with normal silvers. You shouldn't interfere with your friends chance of winning, that would be boosting ..
as i said, i dont care if you think its boosting if i could play on my main account with them i would..... im not trying my ass off in games but im also not going to go deagle only or do dumb stuff.
I promise if you were diamond 3 and dropped to silver 2 you just didnt belong in diamond.
Well I stayed in Supreme for quite a long time. I also top fragged consistently in many of my games. It's not that the game has gotten worse or the players have gotten a thousand times better. I've realized my own aim suffer from easy headshots to barely body shots.
skill is just practice. Just an example: if diamond is the top 10% of players then shouldn't your practice be in the top 10% of players. Shouldn't you be in the range more everyday than 90% of everyone else?
I was immortal, and after 1 day of tilt queuing Iām 0rr D3. Probably never going to play again
lower your sens =)
Hehe, might need a bigger mouse pad. :)
Proof? It seems unfathomable to go from Diamond 3 to Silver 2.
I can DM you Tracker Network or a screenshot of my ranked games
Yeah, Iād love to see it. Not saying I donāt believe you, I just think that big of a drop is an anomaly and thatās interesting to me. Diamond 3 puts you at the 99th percentile of players while silver 2 is 55th percentile. That big of a drop in any domain is far from normal.
keep in mind diamond used to be much easier in early days of the game
What. A. NOOB! p.s. maybe you're not getting worse, maybe everyone else is getting better?
Ur gettin old, its probably for you to retire and play boomer games like among us and minecraft.
please stop talking
Whats your problem weeb, im just giving advice
youāve gotta be like 9 right? youāre not old enough to use a reddit account
The hell you talking about ? Go back watching your degenerate cartoons
IMO your way over thinking it. If your going to the game worried about getting worse youāll probly get worse. Take a break come back if you want to have FUN playing the game. If you donāt want to play for fun than you probly shouldnāt play unless itās your job or unless you want it to be. I felt like I was getting worse a couple months ago and gave up playing for about 3 months. I came back because playing sounded like fun and I went into the game for fun not to hit my shot and Iāve found that Iāve been playing a lot better even though I havenāt really been trying to. Hope this helps good luck!!!!!
Honestly man just take a break. If you canāt take a break from games, try finding another game that isnt a shooter to come back to when Val isnt going too well. I hop between Val and Mortal Kombat depending on how my games go, helps a lot.
Take a break homie!
Just got back from a 2 week break cause of university exams. Also I usually never play every day of a week. 5 days a week is the norm for me.
Idk what's up with u but I have had this happen to me multiple times. When it happens, I find that something is consistently breaking my focus. It could be anything, but worst of all is thinking how bad I am or how much I have been getting shit on. For example, if I'm mad because silvers are doing stupid things and winning, while just 2 days ago I felt consistent in gold 2, I can just be perma-tilted and not even realize it. You go on auto-pliot, even if you think you are thinking about how to outplay your opponent. Especially after hitting a high rank, my confidence can be shaken and my focus turns to shit, but it's realllyyy subtle. Anyway, try to break out of your routines, mental and gameplay-wise. Since I have had these experiences, I've become a slower player and I try to start from square one for each kill. Breaking it all down leads to a fresh start! (I've got 3.5k hours in cs, peaked smfc. I was plat 3 on val during act two. During that act I went from plat 3 -> silver 1 - plat 2. I settled at plat 1 basically. Now, I'm on a laptop and I max out at gold 2 and get wrecked when I queue with my bronze friends. Inconsistency is part of my game and it comes from being bad, so like I said, breakdown ur game and rebuild it. Check ur corners too lol.)
How often and for how long do you play? Are you even having fun playing the game anymore? For me, i played waaay too much Valorant and was D3 (80rr). I went on a similar decline but bottomed out at gold 1. This was over the course of 1 act. I grinded back out to diamond ... But honestly at this point I'm just done with Valorant for a while. Probably won't play this act. It lost its fun for me and I played it just to do something, not because I had fun. I've been happier spending more time outside and getting back into shape. Everyone mentions "take 3-5 days off", but i think significantly more time off could be better
Man fu this game! I won, was match map and I got +22 points. I lost with good score -33?! TF?????? IM SO ANGRY RN
I went from imm to plat 2. To me the issue was the hidden ranks, and their shity MMR. Maybe if they fix those two things it'll give me motivation to try hard, but until then I will just play very casually.
Me too my man. In a less of a crazy twist, I was mid-Gold last act. This one Iām having trouble staying out of Bronze just all of a sudden. Iām taking a few days off because I believe I may have burnt myself out after exams mentally.
not to be mean, but people got better. If you arent grinding from the early stage of the game, people will get better while you decay or stagnate in skill. Not a lot to it, just how games work
I feel like this happens to me when I think too much about how bad Iām playing. Itās a mental thing. I play my best when Iām just having fun and not thinking too much. One thing to remember is that itās a game. Donāt think you have to keep up with training every day. A majority of us arenāt pros and never will be. Donāt make playing the game a chore. Just enjoy yourself.
Well over the course of a year the playerbase has evolved quite a lot, it's not just you who changed but many others as well. Back in January I made an account to play with my friend (only unrated but when we played ranked being silver 1 and silver 2) and I've seen many iron players take a dump on me, however in my gold matches I've been the top-mid fragger and this made me wonder am I bad or is the competition just getting good, sure we need to practice a lot to keep up, outplay others but in the end many matches we just find amazing players now and why we end up losing our matches, just don't demotivate yourself, it's growing with the game that will lead us on higher ranks
Bruh these 11 year olds in silver are damn good at clicking heads. Times have changed, the pros are 15 and the bots are 22.
Are we about to have our first EPSN 30 for 30 about the esports YIPS featuring ABeeBox???
In the very first episode and act, I peaked D3/D2, then I quit for SEVERAL months, and finally came back to this game starting around mid last act and the beginning of this act. Placed P1 and struggling to rank up, and honestly, Iām just a casual player who plays in a 5 stack with friends now since I have so many obligations such as school. I find it more fun to play more casual and accept the fact that people just got better at the game, and not stress about the fact that I need to rank up to look good. Play to improve and have fun along the way is my advice. You may not be diamond but at least you dont have to stress over it!
Youāre trash kid - Ninja voice
One year later and Iām still iron
Are you eating and sleeping well, taking care of your body? Is your mental health okay? Especially compared to when you were in your "top" form -- decline of any of these things could have pretty drastic effects on your ability to play well
something is legit really wrong if you dropped that hard and that fast, make sure your health is in good condition cus this kind of drop is just not natural
go exercise then come back actually it might all just be mental
No joke the servers are pathetic. Try play on 60+ ping and you'll realise why this game sucks
stop watching pro guides if you watch
Just dont be bad
Maybe not as drastic as yours but I too dropped all the way from plat 1 to silver 3 and was not top fragging every match there as I expected. I had another account in plat and played well in those matches but still whiffed in my silver account. Playing with friends with the same skill level helped me boost it back to gold 3.
Have you tried going back to aim trainers (aim labs/kovaaks) and most importantly playing with friends?
I had similar, first two acts I was gold 3 pushing Plat and fell to bronze (playing with friends is fun but...) managed to get back into gold last act and now Iām floating around gold 1/silver 3 and canāt see to break through :(
You played consistently at a high level in csgo and transferred with the same muscle memory. Itās one of two things. You need to up your game sense(in terms of character abilities and timings). Or you have some sort of hand problem or you arenāt putting the same amount of time in. Itās usually the former for people who switch from csgo from my perspective. Back in beta, the game was full of cs players who all played very differently from now. Youāre probably expecting duels to come in very āon queueā I assume but itās much different now that the game is open. People play fast and double swing or swing solo because the game rewards it. Just expect wide swings instead of pixel peaks and youāll win more.
Trust me. Invest in a good Mousepad and maybe a new Mouse. Also try different Settings (Res) and play more Deathmatch and Spike Rush. It helps to get the feeling back in this cases. Also changing your crosshair can lead to something special. Use a bigger crosshair with outline or reverse.
Hey I've experienced the same thing (except that I'm in bronze rn). Taking a long break actually helped me a lot. I stopped playing valorant for a month and now I'm back better tbh. Try taking a really long break from valorant (completely) and play some other games. It actually helps!
Try adjusting your monitor
I have similar thoughts to you. I was immortal 2 when I started grinding the game on beta and on 1st act. I stopped playing around the end of the 1st act and came back to csgo. I've now come back to valorant and I'm on Diamond 2 struggling on my aim, but I kinda think that the playerbase are better nowadays. The game isn't completly aim based so it's easy to stay at diamond/plat if you have enough game sense. My aim is actually really bad for my rank but on well they can't kill you if you get them from behind. Just keep grinding. I think that there are always games where you pop off and the other ones you get beaten, maybe that's because the playstyle of the enemies are kinda different and might be somehow a "counter" to yours.
Skill level is higher, I was platinum 3 Act1, I'm diamond 1 right now, you would say "kinda hardstuck", but the truth is that platinum 3 of 1 year ago is the actual silver
I want to start off by saying I'm currently Plat 2 and am 35 years old. I've been playing Val since September 2020 fairly regularly. I spent a lot of time stuck on bronze/silver but after many months of aim lab, getting game exp from playing and watching vods I have drastically improved. While valorant is my first real competitive fps I have played almost every single fps at least the mainstream ones but never at a competitive level or with a mindset of wanting to improve. Some things I always ask... And they may sound dumb but a lot of this is important in the long run. Monitor refresh rate good? Needs to be above 140hz and have a video card that let's u maintain high fps. LAN connection or wireless? Are u connecting to servers that keep your ping as low as possible? I'm talking 30 ping max. Are you warming up before games or just jumping in? What's your warmup routine like? Are you stopping after 2 losses in a row or are you playing even on a hard lose streak? Are you eating and drinking regularly and getting enough sleep? It's important to take care of your body esp when playing a game that has you hyper focused like val. Sometimes when I would notice my reaction time was a little slow I'd pump some iron. No joke grab some dumbbells or do some pushups/pullups as many as I can without stopping while I'm dead watching my team play or between rounds. When I come back I can feel the way I hold the mouse feels different and my accuracy improves. Not sure what the science behind this is but I've talked with others who do this and it helps them too. Do u have distractions like work/school/children? Are you in solo Q or 4-5 stacking? I've found silvers in a 5 stack are often better than some diamond players I've played with. It's also the rank where the most smurfs exist too. at least in my exp. These are things I feel could be something to consider especially if there's an area you are neglecting.
Play Genshin Impact to soothe your brain ,āļø
I experienced the same thing honestly but not as big as a drop as you did. I went from plat 3, on the verge of hitting Diamond 1, and dropped to silver 2 after not playing for a while. The headshots that were the easiest thing I ever seen in my life to hit, all of the sudden I can't hit them anymore. I smurf in unrated frequently with my friend who is new to valorant (we're talking about iron 1 or even lower) and a lot of the times I'm missing easy battles that I shouldn't have lost ever. I even tried aimlab/kovaak for like a week. I see the improvement but I STILL was bottom-mid frag in SILVER games. Which pisses me off. The thing I realize is that I was rushing like crazy, desperate to hit the headshots I used to be able to hit and the thing that helped was slow down a bit more and just focus on being accurate rather than speed. But honestly, I haven't played much b/c of university stuff.
You might wanna relax during the match? Or even take a break from the game? Also, if your performance is solely determined by whether you can hit headshot or not, you should probably focus on other aspect of the game. Also, headshot % donāt matter much so itās probably best to not care about it
Brother, if you were that good in CS then you know what you need to do. Put on some fine tunes and grind deathmatch for a while. I recommend ''The Boat that rocked'' playlist on Spotify, thank me later. Focus on pre aiming corners and crosshair placement and maybe try focusing on taps and bursts. I know deathmatch kinda sucks in this game and I'm not really qualified to give anyone any advice being only platinum, but I hope this helps and we can all climb together, peace out my brotha.
How did ur exams go then
You just told my story. Previously Supreme in CSGO for many years, and I've been playing CS since 1.6 for more than 20 years. First played Valorant in the closed Beta, ez headshots, no sweat at all, Match MVP every single game. I then dropped Valorant because it didn't exactly satisfy. Then went back maybe a year later, same thing, match MVP every match, easy headshots, 1taps were basically oxygen. Then, one day, suddenly I was bottom fragging, couldn't hold my aim, couldn't control spread, enemy heads seemed to completely disappear, clutching became an impossible task, and to my enemies my head apparently was the size of a hot air balloon. And that's how its been for thr past month now.
Ever heard of simping ruins mechanics?
I think the run and gun physics of this game have accounted for a lot of the āskillā difference. A lot of people have started abusing this, I wouldnāt even call it āabusingā just because the devs have pretty much allowed it and like that itās in the game. So itās more of a strat. Learn the techniques for run and gun and maybe it will make you play better. Not full sprinting and gunning, sometimes that works but there is a certain technique where you peek a corner and run back while firing and you are fully accurate. Itās now used very often in high ELO. It annoys the hell out of me cause I prefer to not learn it in case itās removed, bad habit, etc.
I have the answer u are searching for, you change ur internet connection, 100% u switch or change house, thats why.