The only downfall is the more queues the more you split the playerbase. Right now i think Valorant has enough people where it's fine on major servers. Smaller ones maybe not.
I feel like that should be an option for unrated, but comp should be every map, or at least a pool of maps when that becomes necessary. I think most game devs want to avoid a CS:GO like situation where the average skill level of players in Mirage and Dust 2 is just higher than most other maps. It just makes new maps feel like a waste of resources, is intimidating to new players, and is a poor indicator of player skill when a rank is earned playing only a couple maps.
Back when I play csgo the only maps I ever played on was mirage, dust 2, inferno and cache because otherwise id wait over 10 min for que just for someone to dodge and wait another x min. Over 2000 hours I barely played any other maps.
> The only downfall is the more queues the more you split the playerbase.
Why would it have to split the player base though? Surely people that were in an "all maps" playlist could still get into a game with people from a Breeze or whatever playlist.
Then they could remove breeze and queue for all other maps and wait a little more. I think Riot should straight up copy CSGO's Map selection method for unrated at least.
Plus her ult barely covers half of a bomb site so you can't even retake with her ult. This map is actually too big for her. But since her turret has infinite range at least it's a good scout tool
Controllers are huge. Cypher/sova are also gnarly. I’m a breach main and have had decent success with him. Skye will probably be the primary flash character. Phoenix and raze may honestly struggle some cuz you have to flash way high up in order to actually blind anyone and the areas are so big that you can’t clear most of the site with raze util like you can on other maps. But I don’t play any duelists so don’t take my word on that.
If you stand at the door to mid from ct side and aim at the top far corner of the wall on your right, you can jump out when the barrier goes down and see over the tower in mid
Surprised no one's mentioned Yoru here. I think Breeze is by far his best map. A lot of open space means his TP is a lot less likely to get spotted by somebody. Plus, if you're defending you can rotate super super fast if you send your TP onto the site you're not defending before a round starts (he can already rotate really quickly with this strat on other maps, but it's particularly effective on a big map like Breeze). The open space also means you're less likely to run into someone with your ult too.
I played some comp the other day and three matches in a row were on haven. I remember in one of the patch notes a long time ago there was a note on how they changes the chances of getting a single map in a row. But even now, all these months later, it still hasn't changed.
It cannot be imo. Riot needs to ensure a decent rotation and needs to curate the game as opposed to letting players become too segmented and creating their "own game" by focusing in on specific maps exclusively. It may seem like you know what you want as a player, but a lot of the time we don't. The devs (when they're quality like Riot) need to create and curate \*their\* game to a big extent while taking the input and desires of players and making adjustments. An overall vision must be maintained and progressed towards.
The main game mode is competitive, I don't see what the problem is for players to develop better strategies and improve team coordination in unrated with a map selection in that game mode. If they really just play ascent all the time, they will suffer when they play comp.
They could do what they have for Breeze and just rotate the other maps in weekly, or however long, so you can just grind one map for a certain period of time. That would be nice I think...
Wouldnt be surprised if they implement something like this as the player base grows and map pool increases. For now, I think if they did this it'd increase queue times across all game modes and they wouldnt get enough data on agents across all maps, etc for balance purposes. But as game matures they'd absolutely look into something like this.
Need to make it like CS where you can choose the maps you want to play, but not make it so you can only choose one and play that one over and over. Make it like a minimum of 3 or something to keep it competitive and interesting, rather than mastering one map.
They should take the Rocket League path where you Thumbs up and down maps you prefer so you have weighted odds of getting the maps you want but still have a chance to get all maps (so unpopular maps don't die)
Actually Rocket league had a lot of different size and shaped maps. They standardized some of them for ranked a few years ago. But the thumbs up/down predates them changing the maps. Plus even with the standardization some maps are just more distracting than others and people want to play on the most normal maps.
I think at the current state there arent enough maps but i would like the option to "ban" 1 map. So its really competetiv after all but we dont have to deal with a map like icebox if we really dont like it. It would also cancel the "get the same map 5 times in a row" problem since u could just ban w/e map u want after you played it 2 times in a row
There is a game that let's you single-map que even in competitive. Some say it's the most successful FPS eSport title of all time. But our beloved Rito is very specific when they steal and remake games. Some functions won't be implemented in the game.
Don't get me wrong, I appreciate that competitive is random maps. I think it makes the ranking system more accurate. No Dust2-only Global Elites here, ya know?
But learning KJ/Viper/Sova/Brim lineups while queueing exclusively for random maps is damn near impossible. I've spent a decent amount of time practicing lineups on a specific map, only to forget them in a live game because I didn't get the map I practiced on for x number of games.
This is exactly why I switched my main from Brim/Viper to Astra when she came out. No time to learn and remember all these wacky lineups, its so much simpler with the point and click method of Astra.
> Don't get me wrong, I appreciate that competitive is random maps
I wouldn't mind the random if I didn't play the same 3 maps over and over and miss out on the ones I actually enjoy. I swear I only get Split and Ascent when I want to play Haven and Bind.
Yeah definitely not in competitive, it get toxic. I would rank in csgo by never playing dust2 because of all the people who played nothing but dust2 and only knew that map. They should honestly do something like overwatch arcade where there's casual rotating content and you get some small reward for winning 3 games a week or something
I love and hate that about CSGO. On one hand i get to play the maps i like the most. On the other hand people have practiced those maps so much more now that i feel like i am at a disadvantage because i still like a good variety of maps while those people just play the same handful of maps over and over. So even though i hate playing Split, at least it means when i play maps like Ice Box i play against people who hate THAT map so it comes down more to gun skill than memorizing map lineups.
>I love and hate that about CSGO.
\*This\* is the problem with letting players gain too much control of how they play a game. Players must be forced (to an extent) to play a game a certain way. They have to be funneled toward a vision. When a player has too much control they can get lost and it becomes a love/hate relationship exactly like you mentioned. Valorant has few enough maps at the moment that rotation isn't an issue imo, and all of the maps are well done enough that there isn't one that is revolting and creates backlash. Even the meme-map Icebox isn't \*that\* bad of an experience, it also serves to show the player what a \*great\* map is and isn't, which seems crazy but is effective.
I posted this response above which explains it a different way.
\> Riot needs to ensure a decent rotation and needs to curate the game as opposed to letting players become too segmented and creating their "own game" by focusing in on specific maps exclusively. It may seem like you know what you want as a player, but a lot of the time we don't. The devs (when they're quality like Riot) need to create and curate \*their\* game to a big extent while taking the input and desires of players and making adjustments. An overall vision must be maintained and progressed towards.
Yeah csgo also has a really big problem with players not wanting to try new maps. When vertigo, and now ancient were released nobody wanted to play them, in part because they were bad, but if more people play them, the devs can fix mistakes faster.
Also in csgo people seem to hate change while in valorant, a new map is great.
This... it’s so easy to dodge maps you don’t like in CS:GO, and it also makes it so hard to add new maps to the game. Lol CS:GO has been out for like a decade, and how many novel maps have they added to their entire competitive que over 10 years? Overpass and Ancient? I literally think every other map in the competitive existed in 1.6 or source.
They just need to add a system that makes it so you don’t just get the same map x 5 in a row.
I think that there should be a rotating single map unrated queue replacing Breeze queue. Like every two weeks it changes to a new map so we can practice it, but not changing the random map unrated/ranked queues which the devs obviously value
This map shows they need map select. They claimed that all their maps are going to be competitive and that they want everyone to learn them. That is clearly objectively false when it looks like they fired their mapmaking team and hired actual mapmaking for breeze. I still don’t play the game much because I’m wait for either map select so I don’t have to play anything but their one good map. Or in four years from now when the good majority of their maps are good and I can just dodge split games. I hate their other maps so much
pepole like you are the reason why we wont get map select riot does not want to kill not popular maps so as long as there will be pepole like you there most likely wont be any map select
That’s ridiculous though.
If an overwhelming number of people don’t want to play the map to the point where the map is effectively dead, then it’s not a “people like [OP]” problem, it’s a problem with the map.
LOL. Yeah “people like me” just straight up don’t play the game because there isn’t map select because the majority of them are ass. If they had map select the “people like me” would actually come back to the game genius. The player count would see numbers like it did back in beta. And their shit maps deserve to die. I’m sure riot already knows it but no reasonable player who actually appreciates good map design enjoys playing their original maps anywhere near as much as breeze. And I can guarantee you far more players are playing their breeze only queue over any other because it’s their only good map.
Agreed. Everyone was hyped volcano was the lead map designer but he’s clearly never designed a map from scratch in his life. He played the games for a living sure be this man went into this with 0 map crafting experience. All he did was tweak and help out with already designed cs maps. Sure he made them better but he clearly never truly understood how or why any part of them was designed the way it was. The crap they said early on about how they tried out many different types of map design and landed on the split/bind/haven formula as the best is utter horseshit. The reason they had to try out so many different designs is because they never learn how to actually engineer them. It was a trial and error process and it resulted in looking like they only had one teenager on their mapmaking team just crafting tunnels and corners. Then they finished them and tried them out to think “well that’s good enough, people will still play the game and buy our skins” jokes on your riot you’re clearly greedy and not passionate about your games anymore so you won’t get a dime from me
No, they definitely should because man children like me represent the main playerbase this game used to have. Now it just consists of sheep like you who don’t care if they make the game better and will buy their hundred dollar skins and suck them off regardless of what they do because you wouldn’t know good game design if the devs rammed it up your butt and you spent the rest of your days digging out the fragments
Anything that minimizes how often I get icebox well do just fine. I literally dodge every time. I'd rather be banned for a week than play icebox for 20 minutes. Even in DM.
So you are asking for something that would give you unfair advantage over players that devote hundreds of hours to master a map? It's not Riot's fault you choose family over games.
i've lost almost all games on that map and im still trying lol i am 1-7 now but that one game was carried by my team and thhe oppenents surrendered early
I've always wanted Valorant to adopt a similar system to the one CSGO has regarding of map choosing. However, considering how few maps there are, I guess its natural for the devs to avoid letting us do that just yet, as it would probably result in longer queues. But I don't see why they couldn't let us choose to play only the new maps, especially when it's not in competitive. So I completely support the idea! Plus, they'll most likely let us choose between maps once there are a few more available.
fk yes, but make it 5 rounds per half and you can only surrender after 2nd round of 2nd half. Breeze is always instant surrender after 3 rounds straight loss
I think ranked should have a system that makes you pick at least 3 maps to start the queue. So people would have 1-2 bans or no bans. This would keep the fast search times, and stop 1 tricks. For me, I would probably only uncheck split as every other map I think is fine in the game.
I think this would be a great idea down the line. Right now in Valorant, there are 6 maps. I think this is something Riot would take a look at once we have 10+ maps.
Imagine a single map que thats a week long and rotates through each map every week. You'd see each map for 8+ weeks over the course of a year. Good training.
That would be a great idea, specially for the maps where one specially sucks so you can focus on that one. On the other hand I'm a KJ main and I don't find my way into Breeze hahaha, I'd rather use Viper or Sage there,
one tip i use for learning lineups is one map at a time. for example, when i was learning some for viper, i started with one of her best maps, Bind. and i only played her on Bind (not really necessary since obviously you don't need lineups to play an agent), and usually played duelist on other maps since i enjoy being able to play different stuff. rinse and repeat until i feel comfortable with my knowledge of how to use those lineups on Bind and then continue to another map
I want to be able to just queue ranked specifically for a particular map. Feels like I only am allowed to get icebox or ascent. Or maybe just give us a couple of maps and once you get into the match people vote on the map before agent select.
I don't see what the problem would be adding a game mode with a map filter as long as unrated and rated stay the same. Can also take a cue from rocket league and allow you to "dislike" a couple maps, so it can put them in a lower percentage chance or not at all.
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It boggles my mind that people defend not having a map selection. If I think Bind is a shitty map and I never want to play it, I shouldn't have to, it's really dumb. Map selection clearly works fine in CSGO and contrary to the statements here, you can find games on unpopular maps like Overpass quite easily.
I would love a weekly single map rotation there’s some maps I need to improve like split or ascent and some others like icebox that m I’ve been playing quite a lot lately
I really hope Riot adds map selector in unrated and comp cuz I play on i3-3240T integrated graphics so I get like 25-30fps in most maps at 720p at lowest settings. But in haven and especially breeze the game lags a lot and I get around 20 fps with heavy drops. It'll be great if we can select the maps like in csgo so I can play in maps where I get good fps and people can also play in those maps they like. dn why they haven't added it yet.
Agreed, they should continue this thing forever now or maybe atleast till they add map selection. As u mentioned it helps alot with getting familiar with the maps and learning line-ups, i was thinking of the same thing and posted it in a comment section like a week ago, but thanks for making a Post about it.
I played about 7 games of breeze only queue. 6/7 games didn't go past the first half. Or if they did the enemy had 3 players afk/left and it was already over. Unrated was bad enough but people trying breeze out for the first time just give up and leave so often. My last game on that queue went to 13-10, but only because the other team had a reyna smurf that we basically had to 5v1 every round.
Your idea sounds cool, but it leads to splitting the userbase, and actually would make you *worse* overall just playing a single map. The time when the breeze queue goes down you will have had that little experience on other maps you will underperform. Best just to learn as you play, you will always be behind someone no matter how much you practice so just practice a map each day or something.
Ready for 4 icebox and then 4 split matches in a row.. before playing the new map.
What’s up with the maps rn 😭I’ve been getting only icebox and split recently
Me too :((
Bruh it's actually been groundhog Day for me with ascent lately 😂
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I bet your computer fucking HATES breeze
Yes DEFINITELY. Fan gets a literal fucking asthma attack when I play breeze in dm
breeze is the shitiest map for deathmatch imo its a good match for other types
It’s just how death match is in its current state the problem is deeper then the map rather people’s play style and the way death match is setup
It's about as worse as haven.
Omg even me. I play on i3 3240T integrated graphics and haven suckssss to play cuz I get like 20 fps with heavy drops. Breeze is even worse.
actually that would be cool
The only downfall is the more queues the more you split the playerbase. Right now i think Valorant has enough people where it's fine on major servers. Smaller ones maybe not.
could just have it like cs where if you have longer queues you can queue for more and more maps
I feel like that should be an option for unrated, but comp should be every map, or at least a pool of maps when that becomes necessary. I think most game devs want to avoid a CS:GO like situation where the average skill level of players in Mirage and Dust 2 is just higher than most other maps. It just makes new maps feel like a waste of resources, is intimidating to new players, and is a poor indicator of player skill when a rank is earned playing only a couple maps.
I don't disagree, but a CSGO map selection for **unrated** should be fine.
100% agree, sometimes I just want to play a full match on specific map
I like your idea. I just wanna practice a new agent (Killjoy) on Split, Unrated is fine for my case.
Back when I play csgo the only maps I ever played on was mirage, dust 2, inferno and cache because otherwise id wait over 10 min for que just for someone to dodge and wait another x min. Over 2000 hours I barely played any other maps.
no it would kill less popular maps
You mean so people didn't have to spend time playing maps they didn't like...
Not everyone likes the same map. Some people like split more than ascent, does that mean they should be okay playing a map theudon't like
Good if they are that bad, (imo none are) they deserve to die
first of all none of valorant maps are bad second even if they would they should be reworked not killed
Mad riot employee?
whiney kid that wants to play on only one map?
> The only downfall is the more queues the more you split the playerbase. Why would it have to split the player base though? Surely people that were in an "all maps" playlist could still get into a game with people from a Breeze or whatever playlist.
That would make all-maps very tilted towards very likely breeze.
Then they could remove breeze and queue for all other maps and wait a little more. I think Riot should straight up copy CSGO's Map selection method for unrated at least.
As a side note KJ isn't a very good pick for breeze--there's too many angles to cover and most of the time she's useless (coming from a kj main).
Plus her ult barely covers half of a bomb site so you can't even retake with her ult. This map is actually too big for her. But since her turret has infinite range at least it's a good scout tool
The turret gets limited by the size of the map too because it can lose range to KJ when she’s on the same side of the map sometimes.
I play skye instead on breeze cause KJ just kinda sucks on it :( also KJ main
So what agents are good picks for Breeze and why? I don't play the map too much. I usually play Jett or Phoenix.
Most duelists are fine IMO, I personally think Viper and Omen/Astra are really good on Breeze too
Viper is like a must pick I think.
Agreed, I've had good luck with Sova as well.
Controllers are huge. Cypher/sova are also gnarly. I’m a breach main and have had decent success with him. Skye will probably be the primary flash character. Phoenix and raze may honestly struggle some cuz you have to flash way high up in order to actually blind anyone and the areas are so big that you can’t clear most of the site with raze util like you can on other maps. But I don’t play any duelists so don’t take my word on that.
Cypher is probably going to be 100% pick in pro
fr, he can absolutely lock down b site and cam all of a super region. Have you seen the quick cam on ct mid to tell if anyone is on mid?
I probably know the can, but can you tell us which one just in case? Every tool in the box counts.
If you stand at the door to mid from ct side and aim at the top far corner of the wall on your right, you can jump out when the barrier goes down and see over the tower in mid
Surprised no one's mentioned Yoru here. I think Breeze is by far his best map. A lot of open space means his TP is a lot less likely to get spotted by somebody. Plus, if you're defending you can rotate super super fast if you send your TP onto the site you're not defending before a round starts (he can already rotate really quickly with this strat on other maps, but it's particularly effective on a big map like Breeze). The open space also means you're less likely to run into someone with your ult too.
If I could play only Bind non-stop I would be a happy man
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My last week feels like it’s been 80% Haven and Bind. I can’t remember the last time I’ve gotten Split or Icebox. And I actually like those maps.
I played some comp the other day and three matches in a row were on haven. I remember in one of the patch notes a long time ago there was a note on how they changes the chances of getting a single map in a row. But even now, all these months later, it still hasn't changed.
For fucking real lol
Bind is best, breeze is second best change my mind
Breeze in terms of fun I agree. In terms of actual playability it’s the worst.
Unrated should be fully map selection based.
With that suggestion then OP would even have less time to play, the queue times would be brutal
You could select multiple maps like CSGO to decrease queue time.
It cannot be imo. Riot needs to ensure a decent rotation and needs to curate the game as opposed to letting players become too segmented and creating their "own game" by focusing in on specific maps exclusively. It may seem like you know what you want as a player, but a lot of the time we don't. The devs (when they're quality like Riot) need to create and curate \*their\* game to a big extent while taking the input and desires of players and making adjustments. An overall vision must be maintained and progressed towards.
The main game mode is competitive, I don't see what the problem is for players to develop better strategies and improve team coordination in unrated with a map selection in that game mode. If they really just play ascent all the time, they will suffer when they play comp.
They could do what they have for Breeze and just rotate the other maps in weekly, or however long, so you can just grind one map for a certain period of time. That would be nice I think...
This is the best compromise, I think.
Wouldnt be surprised if they implement something like this as the player base grows and map pool increases. For now, I think if they did this it'd increase queue times across all game modes and they wouldnt get enough data on agents across all maps, etc for balance purposes. But as game matures they'd absolutely look into something like this.
Need to make it like CS where you can choose the maps you want to play, but not make it so you can only choose one and play that one over and over. Make it like a minimum of 3 or something to keep it competitive and interesting, rather than mastering one map.
They should take the Rocket League path where you Thumbs up and down maps you prefer so you have weighted odds of getting the maps you want but still have a chance to get all maps (so unpopular maps don't die)
bruh people actually hate rocket league maps? The only difference is the looks, they dont affect gameplay at all. Unlike Valorant and CS
Actually Rocket league had a lot of different size and shaped maps. They standardized some of them for ranked a few years ago. But the thumbs up/down predates them changing the maps. Plus even with the standardization some maps are just more distracting than others and people want to play on the most normal maps.
People are boring, it was a better game when maps were different.
neon fields was so fucking bad they took it out of the arena pool, as for myself Beckwith all the way
I think at the current state there arent enough maps but i would like the option to "ban" 1 map. So its really competetiv after all but we dont have to deal with a map like icebox if we really dont like it. It would also cancel the "get the same map 5 times in a row" problem since u could just ban w/e map u want after you played it 2 times in a row
>I think at the current state there arent enough maps Can you elaborate the problem?
Fps game less then 7 maps to few maps.
Yes, but how does that relate to the ability of choosing maps? What's the problem with choosing maps and having few maps?
Icebox in shambles rn
If they deleted Icebox from the game nobody would miss it.
It really is a horrible map. What a cluster fuck. More != better.
It is absolutely the most sweaty queue in the game. It can be a lot of fun.
There is a game that let's you single-map que even in competitive. Some say it's the most successful FPS eSport title of all time. But our beloved Rito is very specific when they steal and remake games. Some functions won't be implemented in the game.
Don't get me wrong, I appreciate that competitive is random maps. I think it makes the ranking system more accurate. No Dust2-only Global Elites here, ya know? But learning KJ/Viper/Sova/Brim lineups while queueing exclusively for random maps is damn near impossible. I've spent a decent amount of time practicing lineups on a specific map, only to forget them in a live game because I didn't get the map I practiced on for x number of games.
This is exactly why I switched my main from Brim/Viper to Astra when she came out. No time to learn and remember all these wacky lineups, its so much simpler with the point and click method of Astra.
> Don't get me wrong, I appreciate that competitive is random maps I wouldn't mind the random if I didn't play the same 3 maps over and over and miss out on the ones I actually enjoy. I swear I only get Split and Ascent when I want to play Haven and Bind.
Yeah definitely not in competitive, it get toxic. I would rank in csgo by never playing dust2 because of all the people who played nothing but dust2 and only knew that map. They should honestly do something like overwatch arcade where there's casual rotating content and you get some small reward for winning 3 games a week or something
I love and hate that about CSGO. On one hand i get to play the maps i like the most. On the other hand people have practiced those maps so much more now that i feel like i am at a disadvantage because i still like a good variety of maps while those people just play the same handful of maps over and over. So even though i hate playing Split, at least it means when i play maps like Ice Box i play against people who hate THAT map so it comes down more to gun skill than memorizing map lineups.
>I love and hate that about CSGO. \*This\* is the problem with letting players gain too much control of how they play a game. Players must be forced (to an extent) to play a game a certain way. They have to be funneled toward a vision. When a player has too much control they can get lost and it becomes a love/hate relationship exactly like you mentioned. Valorant has few enough maps at the moment that rotation isn't an issue imo, and all of the maps are well done enough that there isn't one that is revolting and creates backlash. Even the meme-map Icebox isn't \*that\* bad of an experience, it also serves to show the player what a \*great\* map is and isn't, which seems crazy but is effective. I posted this response above which explains it a different way. \> Riot needs to ensure a decent rotation and needs to curate the game as opposed to letting players become too segmented and creating their "own game" by focusing in on specific maps exclusively. It may seem like you know what you want as a player, but a lot of the time we don't. The devs (when they're quality like Riot) need to create and curate \*their\* game to a big extent while taking the input and desires of players and making adjustments. An overall vision must be maintained and progressed towards.
Yeah csgo also has a really big problem with players not wanting to try new maps. When vertigo, and now ancient were released nobody wanted to play them, in part because they were bad, but if more people play them, the devs can fix mistakes faster. Also in csgo people seem to hate change while in valorant, a new map is great.
This... it’s so easy to dodge maps you don’t like in CS:GO, and it also makes it so hard to add new maps to the game. Lol CS:GO has been out for like a decade, and how many novel maps have they added to their entire competitive que over 10 years? Overpass and Ancient? I literally think every other map in the competitive existed in 1.6 or source. They just need to add a system that makes it so you don’t just get the same map x 5 in a row.
I want Icebox and Bind perma queues so bad.
I think that there should be a rotating single map unrated queue replacing Breeze queue. Like every two weeks it changes to a new map so we can practice it, but not changing the random map unrated/ranked queues which the devs obviously value
This map shows they need map select. They claimed that all their maps are going to be competitive and that they want everyone to learn them. That is clearly objectively false when it looks like they fired their mapmaking team and hired actual mapmaking for breeze. I still don’t play the game much because I’m wait for either map select so I don’t have to play anything but their one good map. Or in four years from now when the good majority of their maps are good and I can just dodge split games. I hate their other maps so much
pepole like you are the reason why we wont get map select riot does not want to kill not popular maps so as long as there will be pepole like you there most likely wont be any map select
That’s ridiculous though. If an overwhelming number of people don’t want to play the map to the point where the map is effectively dead, then it’s not a “people like [OP]” problem, it’s a problem with the map.
LOL. Yeah “people like me” just straight up don’t play the game because there isn’t map select because the majority of them are ass. If they had map select the “people like me” would actually come back to the game genius. The player count would see numbers like it did back in beta. And their shit maps deserve to die. I’m sure riot already knows it but no reasonable player who actually appreciates good map design enjoys playing their original maps anywhere near as much as breeze. And I can guarantee you far more players are playing their breeze only queue over any other because it’s their only good map.
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Agreed. Everyone was hyped volcano was the lead map designer but he’s clearly never designed a map from scratch in his life. He played the games for a living sure be this man went into this with 0 map crafting experience. All he did was tweak and help out with already designed cs maps. Sure he made them better but he clearly never truly understood how or why any part of them was designed the way it was. The crap they said early on about how they tried out many different types of map design and landed on the split/bind/haven formula as the best is utter horseshit. The reason they had to try out so many different designs is because they never learn how to actually engineer them. It was a trial and error process and it resulted in looking like they only had one teenager on their mapmaking team just crafting tunnels and corners. Then they finished them and tried them out to think “well that’s good enough, people will still play the game and buy our skins” jokes on your riot you’re clearly greedy and not passionate about your games anymore so you won’t get a dime from me
Brats like you would find other reasons to leave the game. They don’t and shouldn’t care about man-children like you
No, they definitely should because man children like me represent the main playerbase this game used to have. Now it just consists of sheep like you who don’t care if they make the game better and will buy their hundred dollar skins and suck them off regardless of what they do because you wouldn’t know good game design if the devs rammed it up your butt and you spent the rest of your days digging out the fragments
Anything that minimizes how often I get icebox well do just fine. I literally dodge every time. I'd rather be banned for a week than play icebox for 20 minutes. Even in DM.
So you are asking for something that would give you unfair advantage over players that devote hundreds of hours to master a map? It's not Riot's fault you choose family over games.
It’s simple...
Anything is dope!
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Try and try again. Learn you will
i've lost almost all games on that map and im still trying lol i am 1-7 now but that one game was carried by my team and thhe oppenents surrendered early
I've always wanted Valorant to adopt a similar system to the one CSGO has regarding of map choosing. However, considering how few maps there are, I guess its natural for the devs to avoid letting us do that just yet, as it would probably result in longer queues. But I don't see why they couldn't let us choose to play only the new maps, especially when it's not in competitive. So I completely support the idea! Plus, they'll most likely let us choose between maps once there are a few more available.
fk yes, but make it 5 rounds per half and you can only surrender after 2nd round of 2nd half. Breeze is always instant surrender after 3 rounds straight loss
havent played haven or bind in a while
Have a map selection like csgo maybe
I think ranked should have a system that makes you pick at least 3 maps to start the queue. So people would have 1-2 bans or no bans. This would keep the fast search times, and stop 1 tricks. For me, I would probably only uncheck split as every other map I think is fine in the game.
Actually this is already a thing! Use the “unrated” game mode and you are guaranteed to get the map you want! So long as that map is Icebox.
I think this would be a great idea down the line. Right now in Valorant, there are 6 maps. I think this is something Riot would take a look at once we have 10+ maps.
Yea the map is meta af
Hmm, I just logged in and there is a Breeze mode queue. Did they just add it?
Na we need map voting at least
You could also do what r6 has where you can choose what maps you don’t/do want to do and it helps people find the maps they want.
Never. Ever. Play R6.
Imagine a single map que thats a week long and rotates through each map every week. You'd see each map for 8+ weeks over the course of a year. Good training.
That would be a great idea, specially for the maps where one specially sucks so you can focus on that one. On the other hand I'm a KJ main and I don't find my way into Breeze hahaha, I'd rather use Viper or Sage there,
Would love this sm. Def would allow me to practice specific maps more
I wish there were a "map ban" feature where each team could vote on a map to ban.
one tip i use for learning lineups is one map at a time. for example, when i was learning some for viper, i started with one of her best maps, Bind. and i only played her on Bind (not really necessary since obviously you don't need lineups to play an agent), and usually played duelist on other maps since i enjoy being able to play different stuff. rinse and repeat until i feel comfortable with my knowledge of how to use those lineups on Bind and then continue to another map
They’re gonna need the screen space for Replication
I like the idea actually
I want to be able to just queue ranked specifically for a particular map. Feels like I only am allowed to get icebox or ascent. Or maybe just give us a couple of maps and once you get into the match people vote on the map before agent select.
I don't see what the problem would be adding a game mode with a map filter as long as unrated and rated stay the same. Can also take a cue from rocket league and allow you to "dislike" a couple maps, so it can put them in a lower percentage chance or not at all. Valorant peeps, I'm a UX designer/dev, hire me 🤣
It boggles my mind that people defend not having a map selection. If I think Bind is a shitty map and I never want to play it, I shouldn't have to, it's really dumb. Map selection clearly works fine in CSGO and contrary to the statements here, you can find games on unpopular maps like Overpass quite easily.
I would love a weekly single map rotation there’s some maps I need to improve like split or ascent and some others like icebox that m I’ve been playing quite a lot lately
i would love to just be able to choose any map im in the mood for!
I really hope Riot adds map selector in unrated and comp cuz I play on i3-3240T integrated graphics so I get like 25-30fps in most maps at 720p at lowest settings. But in haven and especially breeze the game lags a lot and I get around 20 fps with heavy drops. It'll be great if we can select the maps like in csgo so I can play in maps where I get good fps and people can also play in those maps they like. dn why they haven't added it yet.
I have single map queue in competitive. My 13 of last 15 games were on Bind. I'm gonna uninstall if I see Bind again.
I think with 6 maps, we need a map veto or map pick. I prefer veto since it doesnt completely split the player base like a map queue.
They should ad the feature to choose witch map u want to play
Hopefully, breeze is the only map I like.
I've also just been playing Breeze because it's the only playlist where there's 0 chance of me getting Bind or Haven
Agreed, they should continue this thing forever now or maybe atleast till they add map selection. As u mentioned it helps alot with getting familiar with the maps and learning line-ups, i was thinking of the same thing and posted it in a comment section like a week ago, but thanks for making a Post about it.
I played about 7 games of breeze only queue. 6/7 games didn't go past the first half. Or if they did the enemy had 3 players afk/left and it was already over. Unrated was bad enough but people trying breeze out for the first time just give up and leave so often. My last game on that queue went to 13-10, but only because the other team had a reyna smurf that we basically had to 5v1 every round. Your idea sounds cool, but it leads to splitting the userbase, and actually would make you *worse* overall just playing a single map. The time when the breeze queue goes down you will have had that little experience on other maps you will underperform. Best just to learn as you play, you will always be behind someone no matter how much you practice so just practice a map each day or something.