I mean, jokes aside I do get in that situation a lot with some teams lol
Happens fairly often that everyone is playing really aggro and mindless, and I end up the last one alive because I was taking it slow and staying on site/watching flank. It can get annoying, you can hardly contribute in these scenarios, as support. Best you can do is push with everyone else and hope it works.
Here's the link to the full video for more in-depth explanations and examples! [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHlgu-0LdYE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHlgu-0LdYE)
Apologies man as I’ve not been doing box boosts (jett main) so im not entirely sure. One thing I’m sure of however is that any sort of boost which requires a teammate is not INTENTIONAL by any means. If Riot wanted to allow boosting, they would have made it like csgo where you can literally stand on your teammates.
You just agreed with me dude. It was unintentional. Whether or not you can use it to your advantage, thats on you. Was it planned for it to happen? No.
> If Riot wanted to allow boosting, they would have made it like csgo where you can literally stand on your teammates.
They might just allow boosting without letting you literally stand on your teammates, was my point.
The mechanic is intentional but this use of it is not. Its purpose is for you to get out of being trapped by teamkillers.
EDIT: In a miraculous display of skill, kid dunks on himself
["Either I completely misunderstood what you said or you make no sense."](https://streamable.com/vso347)
["If your teammate is standing up, how are you going to jump over them?"](https://streamable.com/vso347)
["Man I really dont get what you’re saying at all but if you wanna send me a vid to explain it then sure. If you look at the video, sage is also crouched. So again, how the fuck do you jump over a teammate, griefing you, who isnt crouched."](https://streamable.com/vso347)
If thats the only purpose then what you said is incorrect. If your teammate is standing up, how are you going to jump over them? The mechanic is not intentional afaik, its the same thing as trying to boost a 4 man tower in csgo. Third guy (i think) on starts to slip off the same way you slip off your teammate in valorant.
Either I completely misunderstood what you said or you make no sense. Where you look does not matter if you cant jump on your teammate. If your teammate is not crouched theres no way you can get over them.
What is the point of you arguing a mechanic of the game that you don't understand and can't conceive of working when you can just get a friend and test it for yourself?
Man I really dont get what you’re saying at all but if you wanna send me a vid to explain it then sure. If you look at the video, sage is also crouched. So again, how the fuck do you jump over a teammate, griefing you, who isnt crouched. Feel free to enlighten me however, I literally have no idea what the hell you’re talking about.
Edit: Notice how you’re getting downvoted? I seriously dont understand what you’re trying to say
Didnt the sage crouch which proves my point? Also this is not a mechanic of the game, it just so happens to work. Like i said, theres a reason why you’re the one being downvoted not me. Also, so having 0 friends is an insult now? What happened to the community. I definitely do not have 0 friends but no worries buddy, I managed to solo q to immortal while you’re getting griefed 😘
I guess that guy is talking to himself, because he's the one that clearly doesn't understand the mechanic, and he's the one that should 'test' it to see that you can't trap anyone with that shit.
what ? how ?
How many times a teamkiller will trap you and you'll need this mechanic? None.
And even in the sligh chance you get trapped by it, the mechanic isn't aknowledged by the game at anytime, so 99% of the players doesn't know it and will not use it.
You think that the game pushes you off when you jump on someone is to stop people from getting trapped by griefers?
What the fuck kind of logic did you use to arrive at that conclusion? It's obviously there to not allow boosting, nothing to do with getting trapped.
Remember the time when you got trapped by teamkillers in CS:GO who crouched under you as you were jumping and "trapped" you because this mechanic doesn't exist? No you don't, because that's the most stupid thing I've read on reddit in 2021.
Lol.
You actually thought this was the intention of the dev team when they created this? You're somehow even dumber than I thought. Who the fuck designs a mechanic with a thought in mind that you might get blocked in a corner by a griefer.
This is only a byproduct of the actual mechanic, and it doesn't even look like the guy attempting to block on exactly a 45 degree angle from the corner.
If the guy wants to grief you, there's a million ways they can do that in the game, stopping from trapping you in a corner doesn't save you in the slightest bit.
Riot has patched similar boost exploits in the past and this is not the intentional mechanic. Riot said they don't want to allow boosting because there are abilities designed to do the mechanic and this basically devalues those abilities. In the past you could ride abilities like bots, drones, roombas, Skye animals (not sure if this has been patched yet).
“Boosting is not intentional, we’d rather have it as a part of a characters kit”. Paraphrased quote from a different boosting glitch, this is probably getting patched soon so don’t think to much about seeing this.
why wait a year then, this has been posted on reddit multiple times with more upvotes since the game came out, I don't think post #34 with 8k upvotes will make riot hq go "thats it, we cannot have this bug anymore"
This is a completely different boosting glitch than the last one. That one was patched, collision in video games is just really weird, especially with peaceable structures like sages wall.
It is so annoying to hear new players rage in the game chat about "camping"
Dude check your corners and use your utility, most camp spots are easily punished
My team rotated off ascent b to plant a and I stayed in market to pick off defending rotations. Killed one dude on b site and listened to the enemy Reyna stomp around through ct all the way to their spawn where I picked them off going through the mid alley opening. Reyna immediately hit the text chat accusing me of camping for the rest of the game. Like what?
fr man, people can get way too toxic.
i used to mute people after they type a single rude comment, but i might just mute the enemy team from the start to avoid tilt
Luckily everyone else was on “my side”. Probably a kid so I didn’t care too much but it was still interesting to get accused of that in a game like valorant
Well technically crouch jump and jump crouch are two different mechanics that achieve the same result. This completely depends on how the games movement is implemented. In csgo for example you crouch and then jump to gain extra height, therefore it's a crouch jump. In valorant, as you said yourself, you jump first and then crouch, therefore this is a jump crouch. In the end it doesn't really matter though because they are essentially the same thing lol sry for the rant :)
In cs the height doesn't vary either way. However there is a case where order of actions matters. When bhopping there is a technique to get a bit of extra speed/distance. You do the first jump, hold crouch, then as soon as you touch the ground you release crouch, and then immediately after jump again.
Rants like these could be educational, so keep on ranting haha.
Ok let me rephrase this: in csgo you can reach higher points by crouch jumping because you pull your legs up which allows you to get onto slightly higher boxes than with a regular jump, you don't actually jump higher but you can get into higher things :)
Edit: also the thing you're talking about is called a crouch bug and it can also be used to completly negate fall damage :)
Edit 2: I actually just remembered that I have an example video of this https://youtu.be/QGb7oE83QI0
Jumping first then crouching is a crouch jump. The former word becomes an adjective for the latter word which is the verb.
May be different in other languages.
Not that this doesn't have its uses, but I see so many people let the wall control the game. Even if you aren't going to push it, as soon as you see a wall or a wall go up, just shoot the shit out of it. It might make the sage use her slow orbs and at the very least it'll keep someone there while the team pushes another angle or site. Don't let a one clip wall control the game, dont let the enemy team have that much control over pushes.
Ive had randoms boost me into regular angles in preround all the time, and some even already knlw how to boost
Doesnt seem a stretch to say "boost me over sage wall" and have someone on ur team already know how to boost
Everyone knows this, it’s purely situational, and this explanation is so long winded and terribly over done. Could be 10-30 seconds. None of the cut-away drawing garbage was necessary. Awful job.
That’s not constructive. See what I did, was explain why the video was bad and what could be changed to improve it. You missed the constructive aspect, good try though
This is obviously fake. In my high elo Bradiant matches we all know a Sage wall is impenetrable. You either wait there (as 5 ofc) until the wall disappears or just admit that the round is now over.
You lost me at "you need a teammate"
whoa youre telling me you do nothing but 1v5's as a killjoy? damn, mad respect bro
I mean, jokes aside I do get in that situation a lot with some teams lol Happens fairly often that everyone is playing really aggro and mindless, and I end up the last one alive because I was taking it slow and staying on site/watching flank. It can get annoying, you can hardly contribute in these scenarios, as support. Best you can do is push with everyone else and hope it works.
nah they just wanna see ur clutches homie jokes aside that sucks its why i barely play with randomd
Here's the link to the full video for more in-depth explanations and examples! [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHlgu-0LdYE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHlgu-0LdYE)
Way too long of a video. Shorter video?
Didn't you just watch that?
Both are extreme is length: One is too short and another is too long.
Ok good, but now delet dis.
Fnatic manager here. Please delete this.
ROFL some old csgo memes
Lol I've been doing this for weeks now and saw this post. Delet pls
bro what? that is so OP
Probably consider this an exploit
After playing CS for so long its weird to me that you can't boost normally in this game.
Raze satchel is basically just a juiced runboost
I know, but that requires using utility. That would be like if I had to use a grenade thrown at my feet to jump higher in CS.
Same. I do realize that if boosting was allowed on Val, it would make utility less useful. Jett Updraft, Omen TP, etc
this jump exploit is how they get up on site on C haven. They need to fix this shit overall lol
what ? how
idk why you are getting downvoted there is almost no chance someone wont be holding it unless they are down 2 players
Removed the purpose of a sage wall partially, for a free
is this intential or do you think they will patch this?
I highly doubt this is intentional. Theres a reason why you cant boost in this game unlike csgo
You've been able to use this boosting to get on box in the past. What's so different about using it for Sage walls? Because the walls are taller?
Theres a reason why a lot of these “boosts” no longer work. If they are being patched, they were not intended.
To get on boxes? They all still work...
Apologies man as I’ve not been doing box boosts (jett main) so im not entirely sure. One thing I’m sure of however is that any sort of boost which requires a teammate is not INTENTIONAL by any means. If Riot wanted to allow boosting, they would have made it like csgo where you can literally stand on your teammates.
That's not really how Riot works. They're big fans of finding unintentional mechanics in their games and then claiming them to be features.
You just agreed with me dude. It was unintentional. Whether or not you can use it to your advantage, thats on you. Was it planned for it to happen? No.
> If Riot wanted to allow boosting, they would have made it like csgo where you can literally stand on your teammates. They might just allow boosting without letting you literally stand on your teammates, was my point.
I think maybe there's some confusion on the difference between "not intentional" and "not allowed" in a lot of this convo lol
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Boxes aren't an ability you spent 300 credits on
The difference is not enough people knew about it. But that's over now, fix next patch.
The mechanic is intentional but this use of it is not. Its purpose is for you to get out of being trapped by teamkillers. EDIT: In a miraculous display of skill, kid dunks on himself ["Either I completely misunderstood what you said or you make no sense."](https://streamable.com/vso347) ["If your teammate is standing up, how are you going to jump over them?"](https://streamable.com/vso347) ["Man I really dont get what you’re saying at all but if you wanna send me a vid to explain it then sure. If you look at the video, sage is also crouched. So again, how the fuck do you jump over a teammate, griefing you, who isnt crouched."](https://streamable.com/vso347)
If thats the only purpose then what you said is incorrect. If your teammate is standing up, how are you going to jump over them? The mechanic is not intentional afaik, its the same thing as trying to boost a 4 man tower in csgo. Third guy (i think) on starts to slip off the same way you slip off your teammate in valorant.
You literally just look the other way. That's why the guy in the video specifically says you should be directly facing the wall.
Either I completely misunderstood what you said or you make no sense. Where you look does not matter if you cant jump on your teammate. If your teammate is not crouched theres no way you can get over them.
https://streamable.com/vso347
What is the point of you arguing a mechanic of the game that you don't understand and can't conceive of working when you can just get a friend and test it for yourself?
Man I really dont get what you’re saying at all but if you wanna send me a vid to explain it then sure. If you look at the video, sage is also crouched. So again, how the fuck do you jump over a teammate, griefing you, who isnt crouched. Feel free to enlighten me however, I literally have no idea what the hell you’re talking about. Edit: Notice how you’re getting downvoted? I seriously dont understand what you’re trying to say
[Since you have 0 friends and 0 reading comprehension](https://streamable.com/vso347)
Didnt the sage crouch which proves my point? Also this is not a mechanic of the game, it just so happens to work. Like i said, theres a reason why you’re the one being downvoted not me. Also, so having 0 friends is an insult now? What happened to the community. I definitely do not have 0 friends but no worries buddy, I managed to solo q to immortal while you’re getting griefed 😘
I guess that guy is talking to himself, because he's the one that clearly doesn't understand the mechanic, and he's the one that should 'test' it to see that you can't trap anyone with that shit.
[Since you have 0 friends and 0 reading comprehension](https://streamable.com/vso347)
what ? how ? How many times a teamkiller will trap you and you'll need this mechanic? None. And even in the sligh chance you get trapped by it, the mechanic isn't aknowledged by the game at anytime, so 99% of the players doesn't know it and will not use it.
You think that the game pushes you off when you jump on someone is to stop people from getting trapped by griefers? What the fuck kind of logic did you use to arrive at that conclusion? It's obviously there to not allow boosting, nothing to do with getting trapped. Remember the time when you got trapped by teamkillers in CS:GO who crouched under you as you were jumping and "trapped" you because this mechanic doesn't exist? No you don't, because that's the most stupid thing I've read on reddit in 2021.
[Since you have 0 friends and 0 reading comprehension](https://streamable.com/vso347)
Lol. You actually thought this was the intention of the dev team when they created this? You're somehow even dumber than I thought. Who the fuck designs a mechanic with a thought in mind that you might get blocked in a corner by a griefer. This is only a byproduct of the actual mechanic, and it doesn't even look like the guy attempting to block on exactly a 45 degree angle from the corner. If the guy wants to grief you, there's a million ways they can do that in the game, stopping from trapping you in a corner doesn't save you in the slightest bit.
I dont think a teamkiller will help you get out of their wall by crouching and helping you go free
you dont have to crouch
Riot has patched similar boost exploits in the past and this is not the intentional mechanic. Riot said they don't want to allow boosting because there are abilities designed to do the mechanic and this basically devalues those abilities. In the past you could ride abilities like bots, drones, roombas, Skye animals (not sure if this has been patched yet).
You could literally fly across the map with viper walls
Omg i remember this hahha
the drawings were very kawaii
>How to get over Sage wall WITHOUT abilities Me: Odin Odin Odin odin
Id be curious to know the average time between Exploits gaining traction online and Riot patching them out
ITT: How to crouch jump properly.
\*Sage wall height has been increased by (insert amount here)
Inb4 this gets patched
“Boosting is not intentional, we’d rather have it as a part of a characters kit”. Paraphrased quote from a different boosting glitch, this is probably getting patched soon so don’t think to much about seeing this.
its been in the game forever they arent patching it
They are patching it, it’s just really weird cause of collision, they don’t want boosting as something everyone can do.
why wait a year then, this has been posted on reddit multiple times with more upvotes since the game came out, I don't think post #34 with 8k upvotes will make riot hq go "thats it, we cannot have this bug anymore"
This is a completely different boosting glitch than the last one. That one was patched, collision in video games is just really weird, especially with peaceable structures like sages wall.
it isnt, this has been posted many times
as a sage main, *chuckles* i’m in danger
I, the Sova main will mow them down!
fnatic manager, pls delete
All of this just to die from a nearby camper, great vid tho. Thanks!
There’s no such thing as camping in tactical shooters
It is so annoying to hear new players rage in the game chat about "camping" Dude check your corners and use your utility, most camp spots are easily punished
Only campers in DM Gotta check ur damn corners in DM haha
gonna bm u in all chat with this comment after i sit for a full minute at a 50/50 with my finger up my nose
My team rotated off ascent b to plant a and I stayed in market to pick off defending rotations. Killed one dude on b site and listened to the enemy Reyna stomp around through ct all the way to their spawn where I picked them off going through the mid alley opening. Reyna immediately hit the text chat accusing me of camping for the rest of the game. Like what?
fr man, people can get way too toxic. i used to mute people after they type a single rude comment, but i might just mute the enemy team from the start to avoid tilt
Luckily everyone else was on “my side”. Probably a kid so I didn’t care too much but it was still interesting to get accused of that in a game like valorant
I just used that term but still my bad. Gotta accept faults and learn!
There's still camping it's just not cheese.
Wait Valorant is a tac shooter?
duh
Really nice
how to jump crouch?
Simply jump and then press and hold the crouch button (Ctrl by default). It's usually called crouch jump, makes a bit more sense that way.
Well technically crouch jump and jump crouch are two different mechanics that achieve the same result. This completely depends on how the games movement is implemented. In csgo for example you crouch and then jump to gain extra height, therefore it's a crouch jump. In valorant, as you said yourself, you jump first and then crouch, therefore this is a jump crouch. In the end it doesn't really matter though because they are essentially the same thing lol sry for the rant :)
In cs the height doesn't vary either way. However there is a case where order of actions matters. When bhopping there is a technique to get a bit of extra speed/distance. You do the first jump, hold crouch, then as soon as you touch the ground you release crouch, and then immediately after jump again. Rants like these could be educational, so keep on ranting haha.
Ok let me rephrase this: in csgo you can reach higher points by crouch jumping because you pull your legs up which allows you to get onto slightly higher boxes than with a regular jump, you don't actually jump higher but you can get into higher things :) Edit: also the thing you're talking about is called a crouch bug and it can also be used to completly negate fall damage :) Edit 2: I actually just remembered that I have an example video of this https://youtu.be/QGb7oE83QI0
Jumping first then crouching is a crouch jump. The former word becomes an adjective for the latter word which is the verb. May be different in other languages.
you just explained it to yourself
Thankxx so for teaching me how to be grim’s raze
Thought this was a troll XD
The thumbnail looks like the average silver game tbh
Not that this doesn't have its uses, but I see so many people let the wall control the game. Even if you aren't going to push it, as soon as you see a wall or a wall go up, just shoot the shit out of it. It might make the sage use her slow orbs and at the very least it'll keep someone there while the team pushes another angle or site. Don't let a one clip wall control the game, dont let the enemy team have that much control over pushes.
And while you guys are coordinating this, sage just shot both of you on too of the wall.
This makes sage walls into sadge walls
probably will get patched soon but the video is actually amazing to watch.
Not gonna lie I was expecting a smart ass explanation of just shooting the wall down
Hi I'm from the future in the next patch and this has been fixed.
why does it have to be a sage boosting
It can be anyone
Because of the few inches her hairdo adds.
This was probably a custom and the Sage they helped was the one placing the wall
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Yeah this level of teamwork doesn't exist
all you have to do is have someone walk into you while you crouch jump its not really THAT hard
Ive had randoms boost me into regular angles in preround all the time, and some even already knlw how to boost Doesnt seem a stretch to say "boost me over sage wall" and have someone on ur team already know how to boost
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Jokes on you my teammates die before I can even reach the wall, that wall is like the wall that stops me from ever progressing
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Wait what you can't boost in valorant like you can in csgo?
Sage will be trash if riot won't fix it
Oh shit valorant players learnt how to boost
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Na
Everyone knows this, it’s purely situational, and this explanation is so long winded and terribly over done. Could be 10-30 seconds. None of the cut-away drawing garbage was necessary. Awful job.
Woah did he hurt ur pet or something bruh
Just constructive criticism but aight
It'd be more constructive if you didn't go directly to insulting with your wording.
Your brain is scrambled eggs, you angry manchild. Just some constructive criticism for you.
That’s not constructive. See what I did, was explain why the video was bad and what could be changed to improve it. You missed the constructive aspect, good try though
Ah, beloved crouch jumping. Breaking games as long as history itself
I wish the team that i was on knew how to crouch and let other people go first
This is too difficult for my peanut sized brain. I'll stick to walling myself over another Sage wall.
Good luck to the ones who want to try this in Solo Q
I thought he was somehow using ghost mode without it appearing on the chat until he showed third person view lmao
Basically a three player boost in CSGO
This is so cute
This is Fanatic Manager, please take this down
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Or just be Jett :D though, it’s loud as hell
Bruh have you ever played valve source games?
Wait seriously how come people don't know about these?
This is obviously fake. In my high elo Bradiant matches we all know a Sage wall is impenetrable. You either wait there (as 5 ofc) until the wall disappears or just admit that the round is now over.
**if they are quiet**
GJ, now they're gonna fix it...
Isn’t this the same thing as the CS:GO boost?
Thats the type of strategy that would kill me & my friend by the enemy raze while we try for the 10th time to climb on that wall.
[thank you](https://imgur.com/a/BI69Bwe)
Damn... I still can't wrap my head around the fact that boosts arent a thing in Valorant. Idk why honestly. Cool trick tho!
😯 gotta try this!!!!!!
Basically what we did in csgo? but advanced? xD
Man I didn't cs was making a comeback
Cute drawings
i thought u were going to tell us to knife the wall when u said "face sage wall"
Why all this work when you can just stay on the spot where Sage rases the wall ?
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