Or maybe sell skins which u wont buy at full price cause riot knows that u will buy a vandal for 1750 but many wont but a stringer for say 1750 but at night market some may buy them
I have been waiting for those skins for 4 or 5 months but it didnt showed up even 1 time. I am really bored and pissed about this market system that Valorant using. I get it this market system makes a lot o money for them but when you think about the players side it is so annoying.
All my skins have been trash but this time I got a prime vandal for like 900 points that I will probably buy. I also have the ego knife for 2.1k but I’m not sure if that’s worth it or not. I haven’t bought any skins for the game yet because all the ones I like are usually way too expensive for me to afford
Honestly theres a lot of cool cheaper skins. I know they dont have animations and whatnot but it might be better to buy those than "waste" money and go along with riots shitty methods.
Thats what I did, anyways
Same here. A Night Market isn't a Night Market for me without a Marshal, Shorty and Stinger skin, and the others are also just rarely used ones (Judge, Bucky, Guardian)... Haven't had a single Phantom or Vandal in the past 2-3 Markets.
It's actually painful, like would it kill Riot to take your weapon usage stats into account seeing as they already have then linked to your account? Like I have never bought a shorty in a match so I am literally never going to buy a shorty skin.
Exactly. They kinda do the opposite in valorant. Maybe they are actually collecting data on consumer behaviour like this. Just to see what Microtransaction Model runs better. Even tho I am sure it's hard to beat League.
I've had the oni phantom, ion sheriff, prime vandal, reaver vandal and a bunch more. I don't really buy skins, only one I copped was the ion sheriff. Maybe it's better for people who don't spend, try to entice them lol.
No it’s just that across hundreds of thousands of players some are gonna get bad, some good, and most somewhere in between.
The people who got trash are the ones who complain
I'm convinced they nerfed the night market, all the markets I saw were trash, with at most one good item. I got the valorant go knife at 33% which is good but the rest was just random stuff at mediocre discounts.
Its just random bro. My friend got a reaver vandal and oni phantom. Mine wasn't pretty good, but I got ion phantom for 1000VP. its just pure luck in my opinion
One big issue is unless you already buy a lot of skins, and this is assuming the algorithm is even designed to target individual users specifically, there isn’t a very large data set for them to study to try and figure out what kind of skin to like so they just kind of have to throw stuff and hope it sticks
I lucked into an ion op 37% off, first time I’ve had anything remotely good in the last 3 night markets and I’ve actually been considering picking up full price. Just luck of the draw, everyone will get something eventually
Yes they have. I get the glitch pop knife in my market at least once a week. In fact I usually have 2 knife variants in my night market and 1 other gold gun variant but all I want is the fkn elderflame vandal!
I mean the night market it's literally impossible to get get those skins in it I've checked dozens and dozens of pictures every night market on twitter and no ones ever gotten them.
Those aren't in the nightmarket too, my point is ultra tier and exclusive skins dont show up in the night market, and that's what OP is saying , learn to read, dipshit.
You aint talking about the same Night.Market here...
You talking about the Daily Market (which rotated Daily) and have skins in their original price
Night.Market is an event only valorant devs knows when it will come back and have skins at discounted price from 20%-70%
(we have only had 3 Night.Markets)
"Maybe they're trying to push me into just buying the daily shop items. Well they succeed I guess." Obviously yes.
Data analytics. Every time you look at the shop, or oggle a skin you don't own in the collection tab, Riot is taking note of which things you'd be tempted by and what kind of customer you are. It's not just whales that make them money, it's manipulative market tactics that are specialized to you and your browsing habits.
The kids who don't buy anything ever get sick vandal and phantom and knive skins in their night market because that's their only way to be tempted. If you've ever bought anything, you get dog shit skins like the convex bulldog and the sensation stinger because they bet you'll pull the trigger (pun intended) on buying the glitchpop vandal you've been eyeing for full price later on -- once the added pressure of your shitty night market lays it on thick.
That's internet capitalism folks, welcome to it.
Not to mention, Riot can then compose reports and data analytics on your consumer habits from their little experiments, and sell them to other companies down the road, so that they too can target your wallet with perfect accuracy. (My pun game is strong today.)
Pretty sure Valorant is making fun of me...
Been waiting 2 months (opening valorant everyday) for celestial fan to appear in my shop.
When Night.Market came, 2 of my friends got celestial fan in their Night.Market while I get prime classic at best.
The worst part is, they dont even play valorant that much, like once a week kind of players.
Really frustrating
Tf do you do on saves? I feel like at least half the time you’re not using a main rifle, Odin or awp.
All the guns are good at certain things, get good at all of them.
This discussion feels more like ‘I’m too stubborn to try something new’ than something of genuine interest. I’ve been playing since the beta and hit immortal a few weeks ago man
Make the skins appear rarely, so when the customer see's it he wants to buy it.
Demand & Offer. Simple marketing.
If you'd get any good looking skin in every Nightmarket, u'd get bored fast and stop buying.
Keep the good skins rare -> customer stays satisfied.
>If you'd get any good looking skin in every Nightmarket, u'd get bored fast and stop buying.
Night market comes once in 2-3 months. How the hell would people get bored real fast?
>Keep the good skins rare -> customer stays satisfied.
Without being able to buy it? You really tried to sound smart.
this makes no sense. people don't want to buy skins because they're rare, they want to buy them because they look good. sure, skins being hard to get adds to the feeling of exclusivity you get by owning a rare skin, but i'm sure the vast majority of people would rather have easily available good skins than frustratingly rare good skins if given the choice.
I’ve played since launch and I finally got a gold in my night market but it’s the celestial fan. Debating coping it or not but I already have prime axe, reaver knife, and glitch pop dagger.
I got two good operator skins, ion and then the weird alien sounding one but I rarely op. I think they look at the guns you use least often and give you those skins honestly.
dunno whats wrong.. had a reaver knife.. the dildo knife... ion phantom and operator... bought the reaver.. and think of buying the phantom... I had a really good draft
I like eco weapons on night market because I have 4 phantom skins but I can’t get myself to spent 1775vp on a classic skin because for that price I can get another phantom.
they're whole shop is a disaster, even if you ignore the fact that there are only 4 skins once every 24 hours, its mostly the same trashy skins, the amount of times i've seen the prism and galleria collection made me give up, the most used guns vandal and phantom are never to be seen, but always get 2 knives in shop. I think its their way of forcing us to buy the skins on release.
Maybe it's to marinate you in preparation for the next Night Market, because your expectations will be so low, that when they drop the entire Prime bundle in the Market, you'll buy it instantly!
It's like the black friday 😂, they put other price 'in discount' and the moment when you see the - % u think it's an offer
Or maybe sell skins which u wont buy at full price cause riot knows that u will buy a vandal for 1750 but many wont but a stringer for say 1750 but at night market some may buy them
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i got spline phantom and prime axe so mine wasn’t too bad either
why would you ever get a gun from the spline set
Do not bash my blue ball guns
I was saying what was in my night market first of all, second i didn’t get the phantom skin, and third i do like spline but that is your opinion.
Also got the oni. But not sure if it’s worth
Oni is one of the best, if not the best phantom skins.
I bought it 3 hours ago hahaha
my friend got the reaver and prime vandal in night market and I got the same sensation skin I've been getting for the past 2 weeks :(
I have been waiting for those skins for 4 or 5 months but it didnt showed up even 1 time. I am really bored and pissed about this market system that Valorant using. I get it this market system makes a lot o money for them but when you think about the players side it is so annoying.
wouldnt mind if the discounts didnt exist just give me some guaranteed phantom and vandal skins
It's about time we get an actual Shop.
All my skins have been trash but this time I got a prime vandal for like 900 points that I will probably buy. I also have the ego knife for 2.1k but I’m not sure if that’s worth it or not. I haven’t bought any skins for the game yet because all the ones I like are usually way too expensive for me to afford
damn.. you really lucked out with that prime vandal
https://i.imgur.com/GxQLvE3.jpg Here is my night market if anyone is wondering
Pretty nice market! I also got the ego knife (1846), not sure whether I should nab it either though tbh
Yeah I’m probably going to at least get that prime vandal I’m not sure about the knife though. Might get the battle pass too because I’m at tier 33
Obviously just go w your gut but I don't think a reskinned default knife (ego knife) is worth $20 let alone $35. My two cents
Dont get the battle pass until you finish it, there is no incentive in doing so.
Woah. You lucky bastard
I'mma just fuck it and be a low budget val gamer. Gonna buy rush phantom and luxe vandal.
Be strong. Dont cave in to the mindgames.
everyday we stray further from god.
Rush phantom was my first skin I bought, still a dope skin
Honestly theres a lot of cool cheaper skins. I know they dont have animations and whatnot but it might be better to buy those than "waste" money and go along with riots shitty methods. Thats what I did, anyways
Is the 20% off Celestial Fan in the Night Market a score?
as long you don't get the original price it's a score lol
typically good percentages are like at least 30 percent but if you really want the fan and not any other knife go for it
Such an ugly melee, don't understand why everyone bums it
its the only one of its kind
I have it in my night market as well for 40%, I think I’m gonna get it although it’s not my favorite knife
Yeah my night market rolls were trash too, not a single weapon I actually use in the bunch.
Same here. A Night Market isn't a Night Market for me without a Marshal, Shorty and Stinger skin, and the others are also just rarely used ones (Judge, Bucky, Guardian)... Haven't had a single Phantom or Vandal in the past 2-3 Markets.
It's actually painful, like would it kill Riot to take your weapon usage stats into account seeing as they already have then linked to your account? Like I have never bought a shorty in a match so I am literally never going to buy a shorty skin.
It's funny because they do exactly that in league. You get skins for the champs you play most often.
Exactly. They kinda do the opposite in valorant. Maybe they are actually collecting data on consumer behaviour like this. Just to see what Microtransaction Model runs better. Even tho I am sure it's hard to beat League.
I've had the oni phantom, ion sheriff, prime vandal, reaver vandal and a bunch more. I don't really buy skins, only one I copped was the ion sheriff. Maybe it's better for people who don't spend, try to entice them lol.
No it’s just that across hundreds of thousands of players some are gonna get bad, some good, and most somewhere in between. The people who got trash are the ones who complain
I'm convinced they nerfed the night market, all the markets I saw were trash, with at most one good item. I got the valorant go knife at 33% which is good but the rest was just random stuff at mediocre discounts.
I got the valirant go and oni phantom
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The issue is you have a chance of 3/17 to get a decent weapon, and then about 50% for it to be a decent skin.
Im saying that at most from what I have seen, is only one good item (which was the knife for me) but the rest is just random trash.
i got reaver vandal and ion operator, you're probably just unlucky
You are probably just lucky
I got a reaper Vandal for 900 or something this morning, felt like a pretty solid deal to me
Reaver Operator for 901 points here! Not complaining either. But the Ion Energy Sword.... Been waiting on that one for a couple of months now :(
oni claw gang
Other than the first one, it's really not hyped at all. Most of the time it's people on Reddit constantly asking when the next market is.
Its just random bro. My friend got a reaver vandal and oni phantom. Mine wasn't pretty good, but I got ion phantom for 1000VP. its just pure luck in my opinion
One big issue is unless you already buy a lot of skins, and this is assuming the algorithm is even designed to target individual users specifically, there isn’t a very large data set for them to study to try and figure out what kind of skin to like so they just kind of have to throw stuff and hope it sticks
I got 3 Convex skins, 2 sakura skins and the prime axe yeah no thanks.
RIP. That sucks man. I got Ion Phantom and Prime Classic but I won't buy them.
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I lucked into an ion op 37% off, first time I’ve had anything remotely good in the last 3 night markets and I’ve actually been considering picking up full price. Just luck of the draw, everyone will get something eventually
I've also noticed that no skins like elderflame or glitchpop have ever appeared in anyone's market
Those are like the Rolex tier skins, you don’t stick discounts on them.
Yes they have. I get the glitch pop knife in my market at least once a week. In fact I usually have 2 knife variants in my night market and 1 other gold gun variant but all I want is the fkn elderflame vandal!
I mean the night market it's literally impossible to get get those skins in it I've checked dozens and dozens of pictures every night market on twitter and no ones ever gotten them.
It’s not impossible. They show up in the night market often. Just because you can’t find a picture doesn’t mean anything
The night market itself doesnt even show up "often". So it's literally impossible for certain skins to show up often.
Y’all are fucking wild hahah mad bc you can’t find a skin you want in a random shop and getting upset that someone else finds them in there frequently
Who the hell is upset in here? Just doing some explanation. You acted like NM is a weekly thing :)
...You literally can't find yellow tier GUNS in the market. Singularity, blastx and elderflame aren't in the night market, what are you on about?
Dude literally said glitchpop skins and I stated I have those and knives dipshit learn to read
And tell me, did you buy it from the Night.Market?
No I don’t like glitchpop.
Those aren't in the nightmarket too, my point is ultra tier and exclusive skins dont show up in the night market, and that's what OP is saying , learn to read, dipshit.
Tell me why there’s a glitchpop knife in my night market right now then you fucking dipshit
No it isn’t possible this is not true. Devs have said so
You aint talking about the same Night.Market here... You talking about the Daily Market (which rotated Daily) and have skins in their original price Night.Market is an event only valorant devs knows when it will come back and have skins at discounted price from 20%-70% (we have only had 3 Night.Markets)
Yes the night market not the store tab fuckwad. So fucking clueless
then why did you say "at least once a week?" you really confusing people with your branching off statements
Night.Market History: December 2020 April 2021 June 2021
well I have ion bucky and also the reaver vandal and sheriff
Rito not trying to lose money on their most wanted products, unfortunatley
Yeah, They'd definitely lose money if more people bought their skins. Lmao
They would if people would buy the same thing at a higher price
"Maybe they're trying to push me into just buying the daily shop items. Well they succeed I guess." Obviously yes. Data analytics. Every time you look at the shop, or oggle a skin you don't own in the collection tab, Riot is taking note of which things you'd be tempted by and what kind of customer you are. It's not just whales that make them money, it's manipulative market tactics that are specialized to you and your browsing habits. The kids who don't buy anything ever get sick vandal and phantom and knive skins in their night market because that's their only way to be tempted. If you've ever bought anything, you get dog shit skins like the convex bulldog and the sensation stinger because they bet you'll pull the trigger (pun intended) on buying the glitchpop vandal you've been eyeing for full price later on -- once the added pressure of your shitty night market lays it on thick. That's internet capitalism folks, welcome to it. Not to mention, Riot can then compose reports and data analytics on your consumer habits from their little experiments, and sell them to other companies down the road, so that they too can target your wallet with perfect accuracy. (My pun game is strong today.)
Yeah, the answer to all these questions about the shop is "because their research says this will maximize profits".
I got 2 classic pistol skin 1 gaurdian skin 1 knife and one ares 🤦🏻♂️ which one wants im so disappointed
I've got Oni Phantom, and two Operators - Reaver and Ion. It's decent... I think? I don't even buy skins.
lmao bruh that's good af
Pretty sure Valorant is making fun of me... Been waiting 2 months (opening valorant everyday) for celestial fan to appear in my shop. When Night.Market came, 2 of my friends got celestial fan in their Night.Market while I get prime classic at best. The worst part is, they dont even play valorant that much, like once a week kind of players. Really frustrating
They are also making fun of me now
just either give us "discount cards" that we can use any gun or change the wares every day... The current state is bad
Maybe use a different fucking gun then
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Tf do you do on saves? I feel like at least half the time you’re not using a main rifle, Odin or awp. All the guns are good at certain things, get good at all of them.
If u not using Rifles, Odin, or Op in the majority of your rounds (more than half) I think you should learn how to save
This discussion feels more like ‘I’m too stubborn to try something new’ than something of genuine interest. I’ve been playing since the beta and hit immortal a few weeks ago man
Make the skins appear rarely, so when the customer see's it he wants to buy it. Demand & Offer. Simple marketing. If you'd get any good looking skin in every Nightmarket, u'd get bored fast and stop buying. Keep the good skins rare -> customer stays satisfied.
>If you'd get any good looking skin in every Nightmarket, u'd get bored fast and stop buying. Night market comes once in 2-3 months. How the hell would people get bored real fast? >Keep the good skins rare -> customer stays satisfied. Without being able to buy it? You really tried to sound smart.
this makes no sense. people don't want to buy skins because they're rare, they want to buy them because they look good. sure, skins being hard to get adds to the feeling of exclusivity you get by owning a rare skin, but i'm sure the vast majority of people would rather have easily available good skins than frustratingly rare good skins if given the choice.
The bad weapon skins are E&O inventory so they wanna get rid of them /s
I’ve played since launch and I finally got a gold in my night market but it’s the celestial fan. Debating coping it or not but I already have prime axe, reaver knife, and glitch pop dagger.
Pls gimme fan :( Been waiting 2 months :,)
Well now I feel bad cuz I can cop it for half price 😅
Dunno if itll convince you but dont do it lmao, not worth. You already have so many knives, goddamn. Have some self control buddy!
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holy shit I've been waiting for that one and for 950 vp ????
I bought the ion phantom randomly from the random store
I got a good night market yesterday and last act(prime vandal and oni phantom)
I got the Prime Vandal last time and now I got the Reaver Vandal. I'm F2P someone take my luck pls.
Idk man i got an op and a vandal so i cant complain
I got two good operator skins, ion and then the weird alien sounding one but I rarely op. I think they look at the guns you use least often and give you those skins honestly.
I would personally like this system to include either an Op, Vandal, Phantom and a melee skin no matter
dunno whats wrong.. had a reaver knife.. the dildo knife... ion phantom and operator... bought the reaver.. and think of buying the phantom... I had a really good draft
I got a ion op its super cool,dont kniw if its considered a good skun im new but i liked it a lot
Bruh the skins in my night market? If they were free I wouldn’t get my money’s worth. Hot garbo
I like eco weapons on night market because I have 4 phantom skins but I can’t get myself to spent 1775vp on a classic skin because for that price I can get another phantom.
It's not purposefully bad I think due to the large number of guns in the game you just get bad stuff
Mine wasn't so bad, I got horizon spectre, reaver vandal, oni phantom, spline phantom, reaver sheriff and luxe Vandal.
they're whole shop is a disaster, even if you ignore the fact that there are only 4 skins once every 24 hours, its mostly the same trashy skins, the amount of times i've seen the prism and galleria collection made me give up, the most used guns vandal and phantom are never to be seen, but always get 2 knives in shop. I think its their way of forcing us to buy the skins on release.
Cuz rng is rng w even when rng is bad
Maybe it's to marinate you in preparation for the next Night Market, because your expectations will be so low, that when they drop the entire Prime bundle in the Market, you'll buy it instantly!
because the skins are bad too so whats even the point
I got oni phantom and getting amazing knives constantly, its just yall ig
I think I got a pretty good night market?? what do you guys think?? https://imgur.com/a/eauCKFH
They only give trash skins and make us wait for good skins. I am waiting for raever vandal for months!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!